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Re: GovCoin announced
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bb000
on 24/10/2016, 12:31:07 UTC
Anyone know what digital currency China has introduced?
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Re: GovCoin announced
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bb000
on 24/10/2016, 12:28:16 UTC

Actually there is a very good chance it would work, the vast majority of people have no problems with the current system and adding blockchain to the mix is going to be an upgrade and benefit everyone by increasing transparency, efficiency and lowering costs/fees. A government backed coin would be far easier for the masses to adopt than Bitcoin.

Except that if I understood it correctly he's proposing not to use a blockchain. The only way difference I see to what we have today is that it would cut out the banks, people would hold a balance directly with the government, who would say how (or if) they could spend their money. The only possible positive I can see is that in such a system taxes would not be necessary. As Junko says, good luck with that.
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GovCoin announced
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bb000
on 23/10/2016, 23:24:57 UTC
Well, DollarCoin actually.

I've been listening to Seventh Sense by Joshua Cooper Ramo. Previously he was foreign editor at Time magazine, and is vice president and co-chief exec of Kissinger Associates, so he seems to well placed to speak for (or at least to) US political and business elites. The book is thought provoking, the key message is that the speed and ubiquity of networks is changing the structure of society faster than existing centers of power can cope with. The remedy that he refers to he calls "gatelands", basically closing borders, and networks of all sorts, and keeping tighter control on who is in or out of them, while making best use of the power of networks within them. Since listening I expect we will see the internet begin to fragment significantly in the next few years, along the lines of GeoIP restrictions which are already so widespread. Bitcoin is referred to throughout the book, as one of the examples of the new networked world taking the old one by surprise. I've an abridged extract of his conclusions on digital currency below - it's not encouraging, but not that threatening.

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Today the most talked about model for an all digital currency is bitcoin, a system based on the algorithmic creation of money, mined from computation much like gold was once mined from the hills of California. Bitcoin's most appealing property is that it is not controlled by any government, it is meant to be free from political pressure, from the influence of central bankers, and the risk of national default. Bitcoin can be used anonymously, attracting druglords, tax evaders and bred a bitcoin black market economy.

Bitcoin, or something like it will have a role in future, but another kind of currency will appear too. This currency, instead of being anonymous, backed only by algorithms, and unlinked to any government as Bitcoin is, would be built for reliability, not mystery, ... transparent, traceable, backed by a major government and tied intimately to policy and credit. Imagine if the united states began to issue bitdollars, backed by the security of the United States.

Because its connected to a database, a BitDollar can be earmarked for specific purposes... foreign aid processed digitally could be traced and watched, it could be easily updated based on commodity prices and demand ... it will be a gateland.

What sort of digital currency will it be ... finance of the future will be filled with gatelands to make transactions safer, more reliable and to fit currency more tightly to policy. Control of such currency will be a source of real power, and a place of certain competition. It will be possible who is in or out of
such a system instantly - locking out Russian oligarchs and locking in Aid workers.

The country should... introduce bitdollars just as China has introduced it's own digital currency.

Any thoughts? Has this been mentioned here before, or are there any other signs that the US has plans to set up a digital currency learning lessons from Bitcoin?

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Re: [ANN] AMP - The Currency That Powers Your Attention On Synereo
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bb000
on 21/03/2015, 15:42:10 UTC
The investment to date breaks down in terms of 2.2M in cash and 1M in in-kind contributions. The contributors wish to remain anonymous. They provided this because they believe that we are in a very dangerous situation: a global panopticon (the incumbent social networks funneling into Project PRISM) and a global wealth imbalance. They want to do something rather than just talk about it on Facebook. Amazingly, the success of a system that begins to redress the imbalance is what they are seeking. Therefore, they are not seeking to get anything out of Synereo, financially. To me this is very inspiring and causes me to work even harder.

What do you have to show for the 2.2m (USD?) - how was it spent? The 1.1m in kind contributions would cover 5 or 6 well paid senior devs for a year in most economies, so I presume it didn't pay for the prototypes and white paper revealed so far. How do you plan to spend the money raised in the crowdsale?
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Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated]
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bb000
on 10/11/2013, 00:58:53 UTC

What is the procedure for transferring shares to AMC-TENDER?



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Cheers
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Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated]
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bb000
on 10/11/2013, 00:18:33 UTC
I'm loking to rescue some ActiveMining shares from Bitfunder if its not too late, and finding it hard to find useful information. From one a recent kslaughter post:

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Due to Bitfunder closing down, we are extending the deadline to transfer shares to AMC-TENDER until November 13th, 2013.

At this time all shareholders should follow the procedure for transferring shares to AMC-TENDER.

Dividends which are due to be paid tomorrow will be suspended until we have the share problem solved.

We will be creating Pass-Through shares on a yet undetermined exchange for our shareholders.

After the Pass-Through is created, we will pay the suspended dividends.

Active Mining Corporation (Belize)

What is the procedure for transferring shares to AMC-TENDER?
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Re: Git commit ostensibly from Satoshi in recent transaction
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bb000
on 14/08/2013, 23:34:21 UTC
Erm, so what does this patch achieve in context that is so significant for the Creator to reveal that He walks amongst us yet?

As far as I can make out the change is not to bitcoin itself but to the bitcointools python library, which allows python applications to work with bitcoin but is not used by the normal bitcoin-qt client. The change described was checked in by Gavin Andreesen in 2012 https://github.com/gavinandresen/bitcointools/commit/1aa2244c7aa622fc97e7c8de778fe027acc5a0a9 - it appears to be a change to how bitcoin transaction scripts are decoded when viewing a block.

This file is also used by Abe and Electrum Server, Abe includes the change, Electrum server has a version before the change.

TL;DR - the change does nothing to bitcoin and is not significant.

Edit - the block in question causes an error in Electrum Server and explains how to fix the error. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=271761.20 - the original change was made in anoncoin in C by s_nakamoto in 2010 http://projects.i2p/projects/anoncoin/repository/revisions/f1e1fb4bdef878c8fc1564fa418d44e7541a7e83 but did not get converted to python code until 2012. The block could have been created by anyone.

I never came across anoncoin on I2P before - anyone know it's background?
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Re: CGMINER ASIC FPGA GPU overc monit fanspd RPC linux/win/osx/mip/r-pi 3.2.1
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bb000
on 09/06/2013, 00:08:02 UTC
Trying version 3.2.1 for a new Asicminer USB with Windows 7 x64, cgminer crashes with segmentation fault when I enable debug output. With debug output turned off it runs for about a minute, but keeps failing with AMU0: Comms error (rerr=-9 amt=0)
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Version 3.1.1 still remains the most stable release for your hardware, but bear in mind you will need to use zadig to re-associate the device with the ftdi driver instead of WinUSB when you go back to it. 3.2.0 did not work at all for AMU devices so if you're trying the new code, use 3.2.1. 3.2.1a is just a binary built for older versions of ubuntu and no different to 3.2.1.

Compiling it yourself will not make it more stable as my builds should be optimal - the only advantage to building yourself is you can build a stripped down version containing support only for the hardware you want to use, and assuming you're on windows, compiling it is FAR from trivial.

Version 3.1.1 worked fine, but I went ahead and compiled it anyway out of interest. The segfault is from libpdcurses when writing    applog(LOG_NOTICE, "Probing for an alive pool");
It might be specific to windows. I left a stacktrace on http://pastebin.com/5eMb5dsf

About having seperate threads - I agree it doesn't make sense to start new ones if it means you have to monitor them all. A bug tracker may be easier to work with than forum threads though.

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Re: CGMINER ASIC FPGA GPU overc monit fanspd RPC linux/win/osx/mip/r-pi 3.2.1
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bb000
on 07/06/2013, 23:32:56 UTC
Version 3.1.1 still remains the most stable release for your hardware, but bear in mind you will need to use zadig to re-associate the device with the ftdi driver instead of WinUSB when you go back to it. 3.2.0 did not work at all for AMU devices so if you're trying the new code, use 3.2.0. 3.2.1a is just a binary built for older versions of ubuntu and no different to 3.2.1.

Compiling it yourself will not make it more stable as my builds should be optimal - the only advantage to building yourself is you can build a stripped down version containing support only for the hardware you want to use, and assuming you're on windows, compiling it is FAR from trivial.

That almost sounds like a challenge ... but life is short - I'll download 3.1.1, thanks.
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Re: CGMINER ASIC FPGA GPU overc monit fanspd RPC linux/win/osx/mip/r-pi 3.2.1
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bb000
on 07/06/2013, 23:02:39 UTC
This thread is hard to follow - so apologies if this is already posted. Maybe there should be a new one per release?

Trying version 3.2.1 for a new Asicminer USB with Windows 7 x64, cgminer crashes with segmentation fault when I enable debug output. With debug output turned off it runs for about a minute, but keeps failing with AMU0: Comms error (rerr=-9 amt=0)

With version 3.2.0 it kept failing with ""AMU: cgid 0 SetBaud got err 4". I saw something about version 3.2.1a but that seems to be for Ubuntu? If it would help to send a stack trace are there debug symbols for the windows release about?

Next steps are to try another machine, and maybe try and compile from GIT if there aren't too many dependencies.
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Re: USB ASIC miner - check OP >300 here we go
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bb000
on 09/05/2013, 23:36:18 UTC
Hi,

I'm interested in ordering 1 device to Ireland, shipping option 4.

Thanks.
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Re: Analysis of halting trading
by
bb000
on 11/04/2013, 21:17:39 UTC
This is a fascinating development. Heres my analysis:

1)  People pulled coins off of gox to sell on other exchanges or their wallets.
2) Fiat is now trapped in gox.

When gox open I expect minor selling followed by a hard buy. Why?  Fewer coins on the exchange because theyve been moved and lots of fiat wanting to stoppes being trapped.


Sadly I suspect exactly the opposite to be true.

Care to explain why?

Just speculating. There has been a large inflow of fiat money in recent weeks from new users purchasing coins from others who may not necessarily withdraw their funds right away. If that flow suddenly reverses did they keep these funds ready for withdrawals?
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Re: Analysis of halting trading
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bb000
on 11/04/2013, 20:58:59 UTC
This is a fascinating development. Heres my analysis:

1)  People pulled coins off of gox to sell on other exchanges or their wallets.
2) Fiat is now trapped in gox.

When gox open I expect minor selling followed by a hard buy. Why?  Fewer coins on the exchange because theyve been moved and lots of fiat wanting to stoppes being trapped.


Sadly I suspect exactly the opposite to be true.

Care to explain why?

Unless MtGox were good at capital management they could have been under pressure from people withdrawing large quantities of fiat at the same time. They must have had huge inflows of cash over the last few weeks, but were they ready when that flow suddenly reversed?
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Re: Analysis of halting trading
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bb000
on 11/04/2013, 20:46:22 UTC
This is a fascinating development. Heres my analysis:

1)  People pulled coins off of gox to sell on other exchanges or their wallets.
2) Fiat is now trapped in gox.

When gox open I expect minor selling followed by a hard buy. Why?  Fewer coins on the exchange because theyve been moved and lots of fiat wanting to stoppes being trapped.


Sadly I suspect exactly the opposite to be true.
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Re: I'm a Central Bank trying to keep Bitcoin from being adopted
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bb000
on 04/04/2013, 01:22:23 UTC
 The  scenario described seems quite realistic,  the same  risk was described in a zerohedge headline today.
 With bitcoins huge coverage lately  I'm surprised it has not been more demonized in the MSM,  I would have thought that would be the first defensive reaction of those who would like to see bitcoin fail.
The possible defenses that I can think of are
a)  back bitcoin with reserves ( of gold probably), like a central bank, just enough to put some sort of floor on how far the price   could  fall in the case of a crash.  I can't see this happening,  who would pay for it?
b)  more exchanges,  somehow supporting more graceful price drops when demand is low.
c)  access to more btc  denominated  assets,  allowing current btc holders to cash out without going through exchanges.

The key is to  get money flowing within the bitcoin economy, and providing a wide range of exits to try and avoid panic selling when the price does fall.
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2013-03-26 - BBC Newsnight
by
bb000
on 26/03/2013, 22:36:22 UTC
BBC newsnight flashed up an image of Bitcoin during the headlines - looks like there will be a report about them later.
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Re: The Invention of Money
by
bb000
on 24/03/2013, 20:39:44 UTC

I also recommend Neal Stephenson's Cryptonomicon and The Baroque Cycle trilogy (Quicksilver, The Confusion, and The System of The World). A recurring them is the invention of money and the roots of financial system we have today.


 Also worth mentioning  the  prominent role of  the cypherpunks  mailing list in Cryptonomicon,  which was important in the development of bitcoin. It should be required reading for anyone interested  in the environment where  bitcoin evolved.
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Re: Could Bitcoin act as a reserve currency?
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bb000
on 24/03/2013, 17:40:07 UTC
You need to be more precise with your terms.

Systems such as Target2, CHAPS, Fedwire, etc., exist to allow governments and large companies to settle EUR/GBP/USD transactions in real-time, with finality, on the books of the respective currency's central bank.     To that extent, the Bitcoin network can be seen as the Real-Time Gross Settlement system of the Bitcoin currency.    But it's important to realise that the currency and the RTGS come as a pair.  Target2 for EUR, Bitcoin network for BTC, Fedwire for USD.  The concept of a "reserve currency" doesn't come in to it.

(It's also worth pointing out that SWIFT doesn't really come into this discussion - it's just a messaging network.....  payments are ultimately settled by the underlying RTGS.)


Fair enough - I'm not that familiar with these topics so any corrections are welcome. The system would act as an RTGS and currency, and would probably run over the SWIFT network rather than the internet.

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But while I could imagine a bitcoin-like currency acting as a reserve currency I don't see why the organisations involved would not just start their own blockchain and impose their own restrictions on who can participate in the network. I can see a continued future for todays Bitcoins continuing as an almost unregulated grey market currency, but find it difficult to imagine them going into mainstream use in its current form.

Following the logic above, then, what do you mean by a reserve currency?   Typical definitions encompass the notion that a reserve currency is one that governments hold a lot of, either as an asset or as a way of settling obligations -- and/or the notion that it is a currency in such widespread usage that major commodities are priced relative to it.

In both cases, the currency needs to be widely adopted -- so it's not obvious that a government-bootstrapped currency, with strict usage/membership rules would really take off.


I mean the IMF could replace the SDR basket of currencies with "govcoins". It would require an international agreement along the lines of Bretton Woods (probably involving the G20) where countries agree to a specific exchange rate against govcoins, and to hold a particular quantity as reserves. IMF have already floated the idea of replacing USD with SDR as a global reserve currency, the transparency a system like bitcoin could provide might make them more acceptable to some countries.

Thinking about it the main advantage for governments of adopting bitcoins rather than starting their own equivalent would be the amount of work in developing a sufficient pool of coins. Would it be cheaper for them to start mining from scratch or to buy out a sufficient quantity of bitcoins on the market? The fact that bitcoins already have a perceived value would favour their use, on the other hand they may not be keen on rewarding the current bitcoin holders.

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Re: If bitcoin was to act as a reserve currency would it use the same blockchain?
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bb000
on 24/03/2013, 09:39:08 UTC
Banks,  central banks,  governments,   large corporations probably.  it would be a closed network  so while anyone could mine they would  have  to do so through a  controlled mining pool  and get paid in local currency.  Most world currencies  would be pegged to govcoins  though,  like gold after the Bretton woods agreement. transaction blocks could still be made public,  and the owners of addresses would be on public record.
 
This is not a desirable scenario obviously, but  I'm wondering is  this likely,  or what the better alternatives are. How could the current version of bitcoin be made suitable and desirable for mass use by banks and governments,  or their future replacements.
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Re: Is bitcoin now the strongest currency in the world?
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bb000
on 24/03/2013, 00:50:22 UTC
Nope, it wouldn't take a whole lot to get the numbers to start going down (compared to other currencies).

But without derivatives markets is it not difficult to get the price going down without already holding bitcoin? Or are there BTC futures & shorting yet?

By one measure BTC is one of the strongest currencies - it is probably one with the least monetary inflation in the near future. It remains to be seen if it will retain its buying power though and thats whats important to most of us.