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Fungibility (or lack of it, not sure about how to use the term tbh) what can be done? I don't like the idea of using some Bitcoins that were once used by some criminals or something. With cash this is not a problem because we don't have a public ledger for cash, all cash is the same, but with Bitcoin, all transactions are recorded for everyone to see. I know confidential transactions are coming which is cool, because its no one's business to know how much money you are moving but you and the other party, but ultimately this does not solve the fungibility problem. So how do you keep the ledger public, while making it impossible to know if your Bitcoins are "good bitcoins" or "bad bitcoins" so to speak, so all Bitcoins are the same? There is already a market for "freshly mined bitcoins with 0 transactions": see this
https://blog.blocktrail.com/2015/07/announcing-blocktrail-mint-fresh-bitcoin-delivered-from-the-mines/
I think everyone deserves the same level of anonymity and fungibility, no matter if you are expert, noob, wealthy or poor. It shouldn't be something "extra". I hope this makes any sense.
https://blog.blocktrail.com/2015/07/announcing-blocktrail-mint-fresh-bitcoin-delivered-from-the-mines/
I think everyone deserves the same level of anonymity and fungibility, no matter if you are expert, noob, wealthy or poor. It shouldn't be something "extra". I hope this makes any sense.
The solution is not Confidential Transactions alone. The ultimate solution is the combination of Ring Signatures with confidential transactions and is under development
https://github.com/ShenNoether/MiniNero/raw/master/RingCT0.4_copy.pdf
There is no reason why bitcoin could not duplicate this work in a side chain. The advantages and disadvantages of side chains of course is another discussion. The point is that the changes you request are too drastic to ever be implemented in bitcoin itself.
Re: Monero vs Boolberry Chess Challenge and CryptoNote technical discussion
Material is still even. Pretty even chess match so far.
https://github.com/ShenNoether/MiniNero/raw/master/RingCT0.4_copy.pdf
Could this be the subject of MRL-0005? Or is Monero Research Lab currently working on something else?
https://lab.getmonero.org/
https://github.com/ShenNoether/MiniNero/raw/master/RingCT0.4_copy.pdf
Could this be the subject of MRL-0005? Or is Monero Research Lab currently working on something else?
https://lab.getmonero.org/
Re: [BBR]Boolberry Speculation|CryptoNote2.0|GUI|pruning|blockchain alias|mixin flag
Have an issue or feature request for Boolberry? Speak up!
You can also submit issues and pull requests in GutHub:
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/issues
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/pulls
You can also submit issues and pull requests in GutHub:
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/issues
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/pulls
I like the current GUI just fine. It is simple to use and works fine for me. However when I look at the links above I found some pull requests for a new GUI from back in January. Why were these closed?
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aclosed
My guess is that it was decided that conversion to the new database format should be completed first. Is that correct?
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/pull/40
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/pull/39
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/pull/38
Can one of these people respond?
https://github.com/jahrsg
https://github.com/gjhiggins
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg
I am not one of the people referenced above for those pull requests but I think your guess is correct. My guess is that additional GUI updates will happen after the database work by cryptozoidberg and clintar is done.
Unless a lot of privacy oriented businesses start accepting XMR, that is.
That should be a primary goal for Monero and other privacy focused coins.
Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released
Start mining Boolberry everyone! Increase the network hash rate and earn some Boolbery
If there are too many people mining BBR, everybody will get fewer coins.
From a selfish miners perspective you are right. Right now getting more people involved is more important. Lets grow the community and share the wealth instead!
Re: [BBR] Boolberry Speculation | CryptoNote | Official GUI | SuperNET CORE coin
How's the volume of BBR?
Right now volume is pretty low. That is a problem because it makes it hard to buy or sell a large position quickly without significantly moving the price. All that can really be done at the moment is to buy or sell small amounts at a time or place large buy or sell walls and be willing to wait a long time before they get filled. I hope volume increases but I know its a problem faced by many coins.
Volume will probably rise when the new database work is done.
It would be nice if Boolberry could do something like this: https://forum.getmonero.org/8/funding-required
That way more developers can pitch projects and get paid for their work if the community approves.
Besides raising money for developers it would also help Boolberry users to help shape the direction of future development and feel more involved.
Re: Monero vs Boolberry Chess Challenge and CryptoNote technical discussion
Signing bitcoin transactions offline is really important to a lot of people.
Are there any CryptoNote coins that have made progress with this yet?
https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/issues/354
Are there any CryptoNote coins that have made progress with this yet?
https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/issues/354
Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released
I like that you can see the current hash rate and exchange price right in the wallet.
We need to encourage an increase in both hash rate and number of connections.
I saw this idea in a Monero thread. It could help Boolberry too
https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/issues/354
Re: jl777: Boolberry ONLY making significant improvements to cryptonote...NO XMR
new update
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577267.msg12393633#msg12393633
testing db branch in github
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577267.msg12393633#msg12393633
testing db branch in github
update from cryptozoidberg!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577267.msg12393633#msg12393633
leveldb
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577267.msg12393633#msg12393633
leveldb
Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released
Anybody looking to sell BBR?
This honestly seems like the worst possible time to sell BBR. CryptoZoidberg is visibly active again and there is new db code to test.
Last summer fall around the time of the SuperNet announcement and huge price increase might have been a good time to sell BBR. Today will important development progress being made and prices and extremely low levels I see no reason why anyone would want to sell
Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released
seems th coins dev stopped now
May be not if we can make dev team jealous with another coin. Look at Vanilla coin, only 6 month development, now rank 3rd in poloniex worth almost 45.000 satoshi while BBR stuck at 8000 satoshi.
Perhaps we should discuss which new dev we would like to recruit.
Smooth seems like the logical choice because he is familiar with the CryptoNote codebase and has a proven willingness to look at other CryptoNote coins besides Monero.
The big question mark are his time availability and how much we can offer in terms of compensation
Does everyone agree the database should be the next focus for development?
Marketing is important too but the community is who should be working on that
Thank you for considering BBR
I have nothing against BBR but this is off topic. Please don't spam.
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Subject: Shadowcash vs. Monero
Disclosure: I have a stake in Monero, both in the community and financially. Despite that, I attempt to impartially start this topic of debate between these two privacy-centric currencies.
I am interested in anonymous cryptocurrencies, and Monero and Shadowcash both catch my eye (as well as BoolBerry, luv u 2).
smooth I am quoting the OP just to prove I am not spamming. americanpegasus mentioned boolberry by name
Re: jl777: Boolberry ONLY making significant improvements to cryptonote...NO XMR
The core dev of BBR crypto_zoidberg (CZ) has posted about us working together.
With CZ being the only dev to make significant improvements to the cryptonote codebase [...]
With CZ being the only dev to make significant improvements to the cryptonote codebase [...]
this means-
Monero = insignificant
ok this is no real news cuz we all knew the above equation... but worth a share
~CfA~
It is correct that Boolberry is the most advanced cryptonote coin but I disagree that XMR is insignificant. Its community is still the largest.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/2914y1/monero_vs_boolberry/
Boolberry Compared to Bitcoin
In comparison to Bitcoin forks, Boolberry is developed on newer CryptoNote technology, making it of more flexible architecture. The main benefit of CryptoNote technology is anonymity of the sender and recipient along with transaction unlinkability. This provides great protection to user's privacy which is highly important today.
Boolberry benefits:
- Ring Signature based cryptography, which ensures new level of privacy, anonymity and unlinkability
- Separate Wallet and Daemon provide and additional level of security and cloud compatibility
- Flexible RPC-like network protocol with forward and backward capability provides ability to extend network interaction format quickly and painlessly.
- New ASIC-Resistant Hash algorithm named Wild Keccack takes the SHA3 Keccak to a higher level.
Boolberry Compared to CryptoNote
Boolberry was designed from the beginning to address several issues with Ordinary CryptoNote coins such incomplete anonymity and block chain bloat.
- Unlinkable outputs ensures the user's anonymity is not broken due to zero mixin usage.
- Transaction identification by prefix allows Boolberry to cut ring signatures from block chain reducing block chain size by 60-90%, depending on mixin usage.
- Removed Dust from block reward to reduce block chain size even more.
- New block chain based PoW hash provides faster synchronization with network and immunity from DoS attacks.
- Network Alerts allow developers to broadcast messages about critical updates or other important events to the network
- Donation-based crowd-funding: Boolberry has an open and transparent model of project financing with a maximum of 1% of mined coins reserved for project development. The actual rate is controlled by network participants (miners) using votes. Boolberry gives a fixed percentage to the CryptoNote founders.
- Wallet address aliasing: any wallet can be linked with symbolic name via special type extra record in coinbase. Block chain will control registered names uniqueness.
- More rational emission curve
This was a very impressive coin from the beginning. With the very slow emission curve it is the perfect coin to start mining now. Early adopters were not rewarded with the lion share of all coins. Of the Cryptonote coins with an official GUI (XDN, BCN and BBR) please look carefully at the emission schedules and decide which one looks the most equitable considering the coin features that existed at the time most coins were being distributed
I think Boolberry has great potential to displace DASH based on its superior technology and fair distribution
Supernet update below. Join slack if you want to track things more carefully. This coin offers many new ideas and works well already with a user friendly GUI, mixin improvements and a smaller blockchain for faster synching
It is unreasonable to expect users to jump through proprietary hoops like Slack in order to obtain updates about a project previously promoted publicly.
Many months after jl777's announcement, BBR integration is still in the "envisioning" stage. Just like everything else to do with SuperNet...lots of vaporware and visions but nothing real and working to show for it.
Not entirely vaporware, in terms of BBR at least:
CZ mentioned a while back that the integration was done on the BBR side and that appears to be the case:
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/commit/14eba55b4a496f2f04f5ad33891fe9f172b7d3db
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/commit/8fe1aa050c49dbabd3e09d82473b0bc1b113fdc7
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/commit/28995ed64f844891c11a14e268550797e4cd5e08
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/commit/efa3e9fa03ad6427fee335b4f466ab45ef079c7f
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/commit/d99dc8018f955989a76e43af0b62424a4e84767b
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/commit/d188d7a053e6124d0006eebeddafcff332b79cb1
I do not know what is going on from the "SuperNET" side, nor do I care.
Proof that BBR is still going to be an important part of supernet (from today):
you can join at :
https://sprnt.slack.com
bbreconomy
how is teleport integration doing?
bbreconomy
many cryptonote fans are excited about its inclusion in supernet
bbreconomy
I think a lot of monero believers will join supernet too if bbr is included soon
bbreconomy
it has a nice gui already unlike xmr and supernet is creating a nice economy
jl777
some details of the teleport have changed, but once it is finalized, then there will be a specific task for the BBR to perform
jl777
I am envisioning a trustless mixing using BBR ringsigs, so to combine teleport, mixing and ring sigs
bbreconomy
thanks jI777. glad to know you still plan to feature BBR for ring sigs
you can join at :
https://sprnt.slack.com
bbreconomy
how is teleport integration doing?
bbreconomy
many cryptonote fans are excited about its inclusion in supernet
bbreconomy
I think a lot of monero believers will join supernet too if bbr is included soon
bbreconomy
it has a nice gui already unlike xmr and supernet is creating a nice economy
jl777
some details of the teleport have changed, but once it is finalized, then there will be a specific task for the BBR to perform
jl777
I am envisioning a trustless mixing using BBR ringsigs, so to combine teleport, mixing and ring sigs
bbreconomy
thanks jI777. glad to know you still plan to feature BBR for ring sigs
It is unreasonable to expect users to jump through proprietary hoops like Slack in order to obtain updates about a project previously promoted publicly.
Many months after jl777's announcement, BBR integration is still in the "envisioning" stage. Just like everything else to do with SuperNet...lots of vaporware and visions but nothing real and working to show for it.
Not entirely vaporware, in terms of BBR at least:
CZ mentioned a while back that the integration was done on the BBR side and that appears to be the case:
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/commit/14eba55b4a496f2f04f5ad33891fe9f172b7d3db
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/commit/8fe1aa050c49dbabd3e09d82473b0bc1b113fdc7
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/commit/28995ed64f844891c11a14e268550797e4cd5e08
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/commit/efa3e9fa03ad6427fee335b4f466ab45ef079c7f
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/commit/d99dc8018f955989a76e43af0b62424a4e84767b
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/commit/d188d7a053e6124d0006eebeddafcff332b79cb1
I do not know what is going on from the "SuperNET" side, nor do I care.
Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released
Proof that BBR is still going to be an important part of supernet (from today):
you can join at :
https://sprnt.slack.com
bbreconomy
how is teleport integration doing?
bbreconomy
many cryptonote fans are excited about its inclusion in supernet
bbreconomy
I think a lot of monero believers will join supernet too if bbr is included soon
bbreconomy
it has a nice gui already unlike xmr and supernet is creating a nice economy
jl777
some details of the teleport have changed, but once it is finalized, then there will be a specific task for the BBR to perform
jl777
I am envisioning a trustless mixing using BBR ringsigs, so to combine teleport, mixing and ring sigs
bbreconomy
thanks jI777. glad to know you still plan to feature BBR for ring sigs
you can join at :
https://sprnt.slack.com
bbreconomy
how is teleport integration doing?
bbreconomy
many cryptonote fans are excited about its inclusion in supernet
bbreconomy
I think a lot of monero believers will join supernet too if bbr is included soon
bbreconomy
it has a nice gui already unlike xmr and supernet is creating a nice economy
jl777
some details of the teleport have changed, but once it is finalized, then there will be a specific task for the BBR to perform
jl777
I am envisioning a trustless mixing using BBR ringsigs, so to combine teleport, mixing and ring sigs
bbreconomy
thanks jI777. glad to know you still plan to feature BBR for ring sigs
It is unreasonable to expect users to jump through proprietary hoops like Slack in order to obtain updates about a project previously promoted publicly.
Many months after jl777's announcement, BBR integration is still in the "envisioning" stage. Just like everything else to do with SuperNet...lots of vaporware and visions but nothing real and working to show for it.
Not entirely vaporware, in terms of BBR at least:
CZ mentioned a while back that the integration was done on the BBR side and that appears to be the case:
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/commit/14eba55b4a496f2f04f5ad33891fe9f172b7d3db
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/commit/8fe1aa050c49dbabd3e09d82473b0bc1b113fdc7
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/commit/28995ed64f844891c11a14e268550797e4cd5e08
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/commit/efa3e9fa03ad6427fee335b4f466ab45ef079c7f
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/commit/d99dc8018f955989a76e43af0b62424a4e84767b
https://github.com/cryptozoidberg/boolberry/commit/d188d7a053e6124d0006eebeddafcff332b79cb1
I do not know what is going on from the "SuperNET" side, nor do I care.
Yes CZ has indeed done a lot of work.
Regarding a potential merger with AEON I think a decision would be easier if the community knew for sure what CZ has planned
I will support whatever the majority of the BBR community decides