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Re: BitStone (BST) -GemStones 4 Sale With BST - BTC MINERS FOR BST [OFFICIAL THREAD]
Here is my thought, Suchmoon, Paul Revere and the band of goons are nothing more than trolls. I think they are dedicated to destroying this coin because of some Paycoin nonsense (which was explained and accepted by suchmoon on another thread).
I think that BitStone Dev's are being upfront in offering items with escrow and I am looking forward to holding my BitStone and buying some items.
I think that BitStone Dev's are being upfront in offering items with escrow and I am looking forward to holding my BitStone and buying some items.
Re: BitStone (BST) -GemStones 4 Sale With BST - BTC MINERS FOR BST [OFFICIAL THREAD]
Can you provide a clear concise statement of what you think is going on, and please be specific with who and what.
Can you think for yourself? You have the facts. You're also free to ignore them and not do the thinking of course. I'm just not quite sure why you're attacking the messenger if you don't even know what's going on.
Let me get this straight for the record :
Suchmoon and Paul Revere do not have a theory of what is going on or why this is a scam. Sweet, I don't need to argue with you because you do not know what you are arguing about. Good night
Re: BitStone (BST) -GemStones 4 Sale With BST - BTC MINERS FOR BST [OFFICIAL THREAD]
Can you provide a clear concise statement of what you think is going on, and please be specific with who and what.
No. The information is here already. Now you are misdirecting. It's ok man, denial is a bitch.
Shut up, you do not matter - you haven't had an original thought in years
Re: BitStone (BST) -GemStones 4 Sale With BST - BTC MINERS FOR BST [OFFICIAL THREAD]
Yes I have looked at the block Explorer - what I noticed is that if I follow all of your crazy ass theories - which now includes the 8000 coin wallets- I would need to investigate all of the wallets-
You are bringing up a lot of fair points- but you are lacking one thing suchmoon - A STATEMENT OF WHAT YOU THINK IS GOING ON... Instead you and the goon squad have spent 30+ pages pointing out a bunch of worthless shit.
So I ask, can anyone of you make an actual statement of facts that includes your theory of what is going on and actually commit to it. All I hear is a bunch of bullshitting by Paul and a bunch of pointing out facts by suchmoon and NOT A SINGLE COMMITMENT to actially putting together a well thought out explanation of any of it
You are bringing up a lot of fair points- but you are lacking one thing suchmoon - A STATEMENT OF WHAT YOU THINK IS GOING ON... Instead you and the goon squad have spent 30+ pages pointing out a bunch of worthless shit.
So I ask, can anyone of you make an actual statement of facts that includes your theory of what is going on and actually commit to it. All I hear is a bunch of bullshitting by Paul and a bunch of pointing out facts by suchmoon and NOT A SINGLE COMMITMENT to actially putting together a well thought out explanation of any of it
Are you really that dense? What 8000 coin wallets? What are you even looking at?
Here is the address. One address. Had 200k coins at one point and 205k total incoming/outgoing.
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bst/address.dws?BM8G58DvdWpeJyvbbB5H23sLsDm7EwQEPS.htm
Here is a picture. I highlighted the relevant parts.
What kind of theory do you need from me? I have already posted the facts and my opinion as to why that's important/dangerous. If you have a solid argument against that - go ahead.
It's not my fault that it's taking you 30+ to wrap your head around a simple blockchain fact.
yes I have seen that address- that is the address that adds up to 50% on your calculator and about 46% on everyone else's, but 50% definitely has more shock value. The 8000 coin wallets was a comment from earlier today, I was certain that it was you but I will look again as I may have mistaken. It was another theory that all the coins are now in 8000 coin blocks
Incorrect. The question I had posed concerned MANY ( I am pretty sure it has to be hundreds- but I did not count) addresses that have about 8,000 coins in them.
That goes on and on for a hella long ways on the blockchain. I don't know what it means, but it sure looks odd to me.
This does remind me of the bots used by Garza during the distribution phase of the Paycoin Fraud operation though.
Oh, I thought that was one address with 8000 coins getting stake payments - maybe we should ask suchmoon for his interpretation
Re: BitStone (BST) -GemStones 4 Sale With BST - BTC MINERS FOR BST [OFFICIAL THREAD]
yes I have seen that address- that is the address that adds up to 50% on your calculator and about 46% on everyone else's, but 50% definitely has more shock value. The 8000 coin wallets was a comment from earlier today, I was certain that it was you but I will look again as I may have mistaken. It was another theory that all the coins are now in 8000 coin blocks
Oh FFS... 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46
Feel better now? So what's the deal with the 46% bagholder? Is he/she a good guy/gal? Not a concern to the small bagholders at all? Is that what you're trying to say? Spit it out.
Finally- the lying and misrepresentation of the facts by suchmoon has been resolved -- well at least that one time
Re: BitStone (BST) -GemStones 4 Sale With BST - BTC MINERS FOR BST [OFFICIAL THREAD]
You keep bringing up your famous ~50% bag insanity thought.....you are wrong, and I don't have to prove it.
Once you prove that you are correct with your accusation, then I will show you that you are wrong
Once you prove that you are correct with your accusation, then I will show you that you are wrong
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bst/address.dws?BM8G58DvdWpeJyvbbB5H23sLsDm7EwQEPS.htm
You're up.
What is the deal with hundreds? of addresses with ~8,000 in them?
sorry suchmoon, it wasn't you it was your idiot friend Paul Revere and his never ending list of bullshit
Re: BitStone (BST) -GemStones 4 Sale With BST - BTC MINERS FOR BST [OFFICIAL THREAD]
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bst/address.dws?BM8G58DvdWpeJyvbbB5H23sLsDm7EwQEPS.htm
Follow the money!!!
Follow the money!!!
I wonder if someone has brought this to the attention of Bittrex. They have the most to potentially lose if someone implements a 51% attack.
YOU CANNOT DO A 51% ATTACK WITH 46% OF THE COINS... Furthermore there are not that many in any wallet and no one has shown any proof of anything
Re: BitStone (BST) -GemStones 4 Sale With BST - BTC MINERS FOR BST [OFFICIAL THREAD]
Yes I have looked at the block Explorer - what I noticed is that if I follow all of your crazy ass theories - which now includes the 8000 coin wallets- I would need to investigate all of the wallets-
You are bringing up a lot of fair points- but you are lacking one thing suchmoon - A STATEMENT OF WHAT YOU THINK IS GOING ON... Instead you and the goon squad have spent 30+ pages pointing out a bunch of worthless shit.
So I ask, can anyone of you make an actual statement of facts that includes your theory of what is going on and actually commit to it. All I hear is a bunch of bullshitting by Paul and a bunch of pointing out facts by suchmoon and NOT A SINGLE COMMITMENT to actially putting together a well thought out explanation of any of it
You are bringing up a lot of fair points- but you are lacking one thing suchmoon - A STATEMENT OF WHAT YOU THINK IS GOING ON... Instead you and the goon squad have spent 30+ pages pointing out a bunch of worthless shit.
So I ask, can anyone of you make an actual statement of facts that includes your theory of what is going on and actually commit to it. All I hear is a bunch of bullshitting by Paul and a bunch of pointing out facts by suchmoon and NOT A SINGLE COMMITMENT to actially putting together a well thought out explanation of any of it
Are you really that dense? What 8000 coin wallets? What are you even looking at?
Here is the address. One address. Had 200k coins at one point and 205k total incoming/outgoing.
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bst/address.dws?BM8G58DvdWpeJyvbbB5H23sLsDm7EwQEPS.htm
Here is a picture. I highlighted the relevant parts.
What kind of theory do you need from me? I have already posted the facts and my opinion as to why that's important/dangerous. If you have a solid argument against that - go ahead.
It's not my fault that it's taking you 30+ to wrap your head around a simple blockchain fact.
yes I have seen that address- that is the address that adds up to 50% on your calculator and about 46% on everyone else's, but 50% definitely has more shock value. The 8000 coin wallets was a comment from earlier today, I was certain that it was you but I will look again as I may have mistaken. It was another theory that all the coins are now in 8000 coin blocks
Re: BitStone (BST) -GemStones 4 Sale With BST - BTC MINERS FOR BST [OFFICIAL THREAD]
@suchmoon I know you don't care, because you a major part of the gaw period and came out clean and now are always on the offensive. Enjoy bashing away with your crew, no one listens to you guys anyway.
You do. You just can't force yourself to click that ignore button. Now please find (or create) an appropriate thread and post your GAW stuff there. Make sure to post proof of me being "major part of the gaw" or whatever you're trying to say there (punctuation isn't your strongest skill, is it?).
Back to topic if I may so suggest. Who controls ~50% of the non-premined BitStone coin supply? Any guesses?
I was thinking you also said this you dumbass
Re: BitStone (BST) -GemStones 4 Sale With BST - BTC MINERS FOR BST [OFFICIAL THREAD]
OK Paul, I will keep this simple.
Suchmoon stated that the entity has 50% of the coins and could fork the coin. (That is wrong, the wallet he showed had about 45-46%) therefore could not fork the coin.
you responded "whocares about the forking?"
Your response is diverting the attention away from the fact that Suchmoon PURPOSEFULLY lied about the percentage to show it could be forked - or rounded it up to have more shock value.
Therefore you are involved in misleading, misrepresenting and lying by diverting the attention away from a now PROVEN liar
Suchmoon stated that the entity has 50% of the coins and could fork the coin. (That is wrong, the wallet he showed had about 45-46%) therefore could not fork the coin.
you responded "whocares about the forking?"
Your response is diverting the attention away from the fact that Suchmoon PURPOSEFULLY lied about the percentage to show it could be forked - or rounded it up to have more shock value.
Therefore you are involved in misleading, misrepresenting and lying by diverting the attention away from a now PROVEN liar
Bullshit. Learn to read. Exact quote:
Ok, let me rephrase: a single entity. Doesn't really make any difference. Actually if it's a "group" that makes it probably more dangerous, less predictable, etc. But that's not the point.
Someone acquiring this amount of coins reeks of inside knowledge. Therefore negating the "no-premine" argument being repeated by BitStoneDev.
Even if it's not an inside job it's still a huge risk to bagholders. Even 10% of that amount would pretty much destroy Bittrex order books.
Even if it's not an inside job and doesn't get dumped in large quantities it's still a risk to the network - that "entity" could likely fork the coin at will.
That's just a few red flags from one address. How many flags would you say is the minimum to consider that something might not be entirely above board?
Someone acquiring this amount of coins reeks of inside knowledge. Therefore negating the "no-premine" argument being repeated by BitStoneDev.
Even if it's not an inside job it's still a huge risk to bagholders. Even 10% of that amount would pretty much destroy Bittrex order books.
Even if it's not an inside job and doesn't get dumped in large quantities it's still a risk to the network - that "entity" could likely fork the coin at will.
That's just a few red flags from one address. How many flags would you say is the minimum to consider that something might not be entirely above board?
COULD LIKELY FORK - for example if they had another 5% in another address perhaps?
But good job ignoring the rest of that post.
Another stellar theory
Re: BitStone (BST) -GemStones 4 Sale With BST - BTC MINERS FOR BST [OFFICIAL THREAD]
I see the village idiots are still hard at work. Thanks for the update last night. Look forward to seeing more and placing an order.
Just for the record - Suchmoon stated and owlcats reiterated the 50% of coins held by a person or group. Then suchmoon explains all the dangers of having 51% of the coins. Then he leads everyone on a wild goose chase about 8000 coins in wallets.
2 quick points that have been stated but not responded to-
1- 205,000 is about 45-46% of the coins - but if he stated that fact he would have no basis for his accusations - only implications
2- have you linked the 8000 coin wallets and the 200,000 coin wallet or is that another one of your theories with no basis
suchmoon - Paul revere - court of law
Find something - manipulate it - come up with an idea - then go find more useless info to back up claims - rinse and repeat
Just for the record - Suchmoon stated and owlcats reiterated the 50% of coins held by a person or group. Then suchmoon explains all the dangers of having 51% of the coins. Then he leads everyone on a wild goose chase about 8000 coins in wallets.
2 quick points that have been stated but not responded to-
1- 205,000 is about 45-46% of the coins - but if he stated that fact he would have no basis for his accusations - only implications
2- have you linked the 8000 coin wallets and the 200,000 coin wallet or is that another one of your theories with no basis
suchmoon - Paul revere - court of law
Find something - manipulate it - come up with an idea - then go find more useless info to back up claims - rinse and repeat
A 51% attack is ONE OF potential threats I mentioned and only really matters if the controlling entity is not BitStoneDev (because BitStoneDev presumably can fork the coin anyway since he controls the source code and has the deal with Bittrex).
But yeah ~46% is so much better than ~50%. I'm sorry for asking the wrong question. Let me rephrase - is anyone at all concerned that a single entity controls ~46% of the total coin supply? Any good ideas? Any thoughts on whether dumping ~46% would be less dangerous to the coin than dumping ~50%? Anything else positive about this?
There was only one address I posted. It had 200k coins in it on November 29 and 205k total received. Which part of this has no basis? Did you even look at the block explorer yourself? It doesn't seem like you did.
Yes I have looked at the block Explorer - what I noticed is that if I follow all of your crazy ass theories - which now includes the 8000 coin wallets- I would need to investigate all of the wallets-
You are bringing up a lot of fair points- but you are lacking one thing suchmoon - A STATEMENT OF WHAT YOU THINK IS GOING ON... Instead you and the goon squad have spent 30+ pages pointing out a bunch of worthless shit.
So I ask, can anyone of you make an actual statement of facts that includes your theory of what is going on and actually commit to it. All I hear is a bunch of bullshitting by Paul and a bunch of pointing out facts by suchmoon and NOT A SINGLE COMMITMENT to actially putting together a well thought out explanation of any of it
Re: BitStone (BST) -GemStones 4 Sale With BST - BTC MINERS FOR BST [OFFICIAL THREAD]
Sorry owlman, suchmoon said there was a ~50% bagholder, he never proved who it was.
All that you see on the blockchain is that it is in an address, so who does it belong to?
Since then I have seen nothing but accusations and conspiracy theories, no actual proof of any person.
Once he tells me who it belongs to, then I can respond with my answer. Plus it's not my coin. I don't have any coin that I developed, I have coins that I have invested in a portfolio if that's what your 3rd grade vocabulary is trying to convey.
Also when you say "You all asked for questions" ...I don't recall asking many questions about the coin, I remember saying I think its a nice idea and a breath of fresh air, and am looking forward to seeing how it turns out.
Your fudster crew is asking all sorts of wild questions...please get your facts straight.
There was no burden to prove who owns the address, there never was. You completely miss the point, just like all you shit coiners.
Edit have fun holding those bags after Keith dumps the premine on you all... LOL!
a third village idiot-
1 - show me ANY address at ANYTIME that has held 50% or more of the coins -
2- show me ANY evidence on the blockchain of a Premine
Dumb ass
Easy. It's on the blockchain. I'll do it when I get home from work if someone else hasn't already. But I tracked it last night and can confirm that this is true.
Ok- looking forward to seeing a wallet with 50% or more of the coins. Remember that suchmoons idea that it can be forked because 50%+ of the coins are controlled by a group or individual only applies to more than 50%, not 45%. I assume suchmoon used the ~ sign to show it was about 50% but anything less cannot fork the network. So what I see is another attempt to distort facts to prove a weak theory.
Btw- don't forget to show that Premine -
Who cares about the forking? The fucking is more of a concern about one entity having that much coin.
OK Paul, I will keep this simple.
Suchmoon stated that the entity has 50% of the coins and could fork the coin. (That is wrong, the wallet he showed had about 45-46%) therefore could not fork the coin.
you responded "whocares about the forking?"
Your response is diverting the attention away from the fact that Suchmoon PURPOSEFULLY lied about the percentage to show it could be forked - or rounded it up to have more shock value.
Therefore you are involved in misleading, misrepresenting and lying by diverting the attention away from a now PROVEN liar
Re: BitStone (BST) -GemStones 4 Sale With BST - BTC MINERS FOR BST [OFFICIAL THREAD]
By the way guys...BitStoneDev is Mastertrader777.
Seriously? Makes sense, but do you have proof?
PROOF- like that matters to you-- all you need is to have it stated by anyone and it is FACT in your eyes
Re: BitStone (BST) -GemStones 4 Sale With BST - BTC MINERS FOR BST [OFFICIAL THREAD]
There goes Paul again - showing it is OK for them to blatantly lie and mislead people. The #2 village idiot has returned.
Will you please point out where I lied.
Yes- the sentence says "them" implying you and your goons. Some of the goons have stated multiple times that there is a wallet with 50% of the coins. It was also stated that forking is a concern because the entity holds 50% of the coins.
so the goons have mislead people into thinking that a group holds 50% of the coins and could fork the coin.
here comes the misdirection
Re: BitStone (BST) -GemStones 4 Sale With BST - BTC MINERS FOR BST [OFFICIAL THREAD]
Sorry owlman, suchmoon said there was a ~50% bagholder, he never proved who it was.
All that you see on the blockchain is that it is in an address, so who does it belong to?
Since then I have seen nothing but accusations and conspiracy theories, no actual proof of any person.
Once he tells me who it belongs to, then I can respond with my answer. Plus it's not my coin. I don't have any coin that I developed, I have coins that I have invested in a portfolio if that's what your 3rd grade vocabulary is trying to convey.
Also when you say "You all asked for questions" ...I don't recall asking many questions about the coin, I remember saying I think its a nice idea and a breath of fresh air, and am looking forward to seeing how it turns out.
Your fudster crew is asking all sorts of wild questions...please get your facts straight.
There was no burden to prove who owns the address, there never was. You completely miss the point, just like all you shit coiners.
Edit have fun holding those bags after Keith dumps the premine on you all... LOL!
a third village idiot-
1 - show me ANY address at ANYTIME that has held 50% or more of the coins -
2- show me ANY evidence on the blockchain of a Premine
Dumb ass
Easy. It's on the blockchain. I'll do it when I get home from work if someone else hasn't already. But I tracked it last night and can confirm that this is true.
Ok- looking forward to seeing a wallet with 50% or more of the coins. Remember that suchmoons idea that it can be forked because 50%+ of the coins are controlled by a group or individual only applies to more than 50%, not 45%. I assume suchmoon used the ~ sign to show it was about 50% but anything less cannot fork the network. So what I see is another attempt to distort facts to prove a weak theory.
Btw- don't forget to show that Premine -
Who cares about the forking? The fucking is more of a concern about one entity having that much coin.
not really sure what Paul was saying in the second sentence - it makes about as much sense as his other posts
Re: BitStone (BST) -GemStones 4 Sale With BST - BTC MINERS FOR BST [OFFICIAL THREAD]
BitStone Dev- would it be possible to open a thread for announcements only. I do not like needing to weed through pages of troll shit to find out what is going on. maybe a new thread that remains locked except for your announcements. That way the trolls can keep posting mounds of worthless crap here and those of us that want to read the meat and potatoes can get it easily.
Re: BitStone (BST) -GemStones 4 Sale With BST - BTC MINERS FOR BST [OFFICIAL THREAD]
Sorry owlman, suchmoon said there was a ~50% bagholder, he never proved who it was.
All that you see on the blockchain is that it is in an address, so who does it belong to?
Since then I have seen nothing but accusations and conspiracy theories, no actual proof of any person.
Once he tells me who it belongs to, then I can respond with my answer. Plus it's not my coin. I don't have any coin that I developed, I have coins that I have invested in a portfolio if that's what your 3rd grade vocabulary is trying to convey.
Also when you say "You all asked for questions" ...I don't recall asking many questions about the coin, I remember saying I think its a nice idea and a breath of fresh air, and am looking forward to seeing how it turns out.
Your fudster crew is asking all sorts of wild questions...please get your facts straight.
There was no burden to prove who owns the address, there never was. You completely miss the point, just like all you shit coiners.
Edit have fun holding those bags after Keith dumps the premine on you all... LOL!
a third village idiot-
1 - show me ANY address at ANYTIME that has held 50% or more of the coins -
2- show me ANY evidence on the blockchain of a Premine
Dumb ass
Easy. It's on the blockchain. I'll do it when I get home from work if someone else hasn't already. But I tracked it last night and can confirm that this is true.
Ok- looking forward to seeing a wallet with 50% or more of the coins. Remember that suchmoons idea that it can be forked because 50%+ of the coins are controlled by a group or individual only applies to more than 50%, not 45%. I assume suchmoon used the ~ sign to show it was about 50% but anything less cannot fork the network. So what I see is another attempt to distort facts to prove a weak theory.
Btw- don't forget to show that Premine -
Re: BitStone (BST) -GemStones 4 Sale With BST - BTC MINERS FOR BST [OFFICIAL THREAD]
Sorry owlman, suchmoon said there was a ~50% bagholder, he never proved who it was.
All that you see on the blockchain is that it is in an address, so who does it belong to?
Since then I have seen nothing but accusations and conspiracy theories, no actual proof of any person.
Once he tells me who it belongs to, then I can respond with my answer. Plus it's not my coin. I don't have any coin that I developed, I have coins that I have invested in a portfolio if that's what your 3rd grade vocabulary is trying to convey.
Also when you say "You all asked for questions" ...I don't recall asking many questions about the coin, I remember saying I think its a nice idea and a breath of fresh air, and am looking forward to seeing how it turns out.
Your fudster crew is asking all sorts of wild questions...please get your facts straight.
There was no burden to prove who owns the address, there never was. You completely miss the point, just like all you shit coiners.
Edit have fun holding those bags after Keith dumps the premine on you all... LOL!
a third village idiot-
1 - show me ANY address at ANYTIME that has held 50% or more of the coins -
2- show me ANY evidence on the blockchain of a Premine
Dumb ass