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Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released
Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released
Will CZ come back to work on Boolberry actively or he is still concentrating on the second project?
Nope, never ever. Just look at what he is doing right now. BBR is dead dead dead ...
Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released
BBR is dirt cheap now
And dirty dead ...
Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released
IMHO, the next step for BBR is that CZ changes (simplifies) the code base such that it could be (easily) taken over by some group of interested devs. Right now, the source code reads unready compared to, e.g., XMR code. There were also a couple of problems, when I remember correctly, with compiling the BBR code. The latter is probably the most important thing that should be improved. BBR code must compile for everyone on Linux and Windows and, maybe, MacOS too. When that stage is reached (maybe it is already reached; but not to my knowledge), BBR can start to evolve. To me, BBR looks like a frozen fish right now that either needs to be eaten asap, or revived and put back into water. Of course, I am in favor of life 
Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released
To me the case is clear. We are talking about cz's reputation here, no one else's.
The little BBR needs his dad! (Or mom?) Hey, cz it is time to finally return to your child. You are being missed.
The little BBR needs his dad! (Or mom?) Hey, cz it is time to finally return to your child. You are being missed.
Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released
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Well, I do see your argument, but reality says otherwise. Devs simply are not releasing any news or updates, no?
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Thank you for sharing your concerns, and I have feeling a lot of people is working or at least considering how to solve those kind of problems.
Good answer :-)
I believe the BBR network either needs a hardfork (the next BBR update will require that anyway I presume) or that all of the 1% "premine" coins are (continuously) transferred to some address under control of some BBR committee such that the amount can be used to create better incentives to improve the network.
Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released
You do not think that current possibility to opt-out from contributing to development is enough?
You can not opt out. You can only vote to reduce the rate of payment.
I wasn't going to reply at all but since I replied to correct this point I'll add that I don't think the 1% deferred premine is a big deal. The mechanics of the system could have been disclosed better but as these things go in crypto it is a relatively insignificant issue. Everyone was well aware of a 1% developer reward even if the exact details were clear only in the code.
Also, CZ used some of the boolbs from that 1% for bounties for ppl that contributed somehow to the project. E.g. I got 10ish block worth of boolbs at the time for putting effort in tutorial thread. And another point is, as the "premine" is deferred, if anything it further incentivise devs to take care of boolberry in the future. I completely agree with you smooth, tnx for correcting me
Still I believe the ongoing premine is a problem for many, generally interested, people. There is nothing that can be prefixed with PRE there. It simply is a marketing thing, and BBR is flawed here. It might not be a big flaw; but it is a flaw simply because that premine is inherently something centralized with no real opt-out switch (so you are forced to accept it).
But you could hardly call it premine if devs will get 1% of block that will be mined in a week or in a month. There is not much that can be prefixed with pre there. Smooth has best name i've jet heard for it, "deferred premine", and you'll realize that the model actually gives incentives to devs to work on the project in the future, which does gives it an edge compared to other projects when speaking of probability of devs working harder on the code and adding features that add value to the network, while not being premined network.
With that said, other non-premined projects might actually be flawed by not having BBR model for keeping devs inherently motivated
Well, I do see your argument, but reality says otherwise. Devs simply are not releasing any news or updates, no? It's a premine irrespective of the attribute. Most people don't like that. Money is always an issue, but getting "1% of every block" is not an incentive, it is a bold flatrate.
Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released
You do not think that current possibility to opt-out from contributing to development is enough?
You can not opt out. You can only vote to reduce the rate of payment.
I wasn't going to reply at all but since I replied to correct this point I'll add that I don't think the 1% deferred premine is a big deal. The mechanics of the system could have been disclosed better but as these things go in crypto it is a relatively insignificant issue. Everyone was well aware of a 1% developer reward even if the exact details were clear only in the code.
Also, CZ used some of the boolbs from that 1% for bounties for ppl that contributed somehow to the project. E.g. I got 10ish block worth of boolbs at the time for putting effort in tutorial thread. And another point is, as the "premine" is deferred, if anything it further incentivise devs to take care of boolberry in the future. I completely agree with you smooth, tnx for correcting me
Still I believe the ongoing premine is a problem for many, generally interested, people. It simply is a marketing thing, and BBR is flawed here. It might not be a big flaw; but it is a flaw simply because that premine is inherently something centralized with no real opt-out switch (so you are forced to accept it).
Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released
Do you agree that the dev bounty amount should not not be in question (or is probably too low)?
I agree with you that a new incentive structure would be preferable and it should be created if we can reach a consensus.
My issue is not with the amount. It is that the bounty is built into the protocol level. I believe (and I believe others will believe) that developer funds and project bounties should happen a level above the protocol, on a social layer - no profit/compensation mechanisms should ever be baked into the protocol itself.
As well I am concerned about the nature of this fund. Is this a stash specifically for the head dev that he claims as his own? Or is it a war chest that has been pledged to incentivize development now and in the future?
Let me be clear that I have a favorable opinion of Boolberry, respect their technical development of the Cryptonote protocol and include them in the short list of not just valid Cryptonote projects - but valid "alt" coins. I just wish some things were different, and I think it would benefit their long term adoption.
100% agreed. The social layer is the only layer suited for this kind of things. This is probably one of the things that kept BBR from flying...
Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released
Just switched to Windows 10 and testing my system... experiencing a significant drop on mining speed with my gtx960 card, using the latest Nvidia driver (358.87) and the cpuminer-multi-opencl miner: Mining speed dropped from 830 kh/s to 560 kh/s! Is this common knowledge? Does anyone know how to fix this? Thx in advance!
Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released
It seems there are good work around BBR recently. This coin has good community.
Someone wants to buy a shitload of BBR on Polo and that's all. The dev last posted to this thread a month ago. Not much github activity either.
The wall is still there so I guess it was not a "fake" wall meant to manipulate as people often suggest when they see larger than normal buy or sell walls.
There is no such thing as "fake walls". Markets just do what markets do.
Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released
Again, hashrate is skewed like hell!
Network: 136.86 MH/sec
bbr.poolto.be: 106.20 MH/sec
Why is BBR still there given this awesome attack vector?
Network: 136.86 MH/sec
bbr.poolto.be: 106.20 MH/sec
Why is BBR still there given this awesome attack vector?
Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released
Why bother logging in if you are not going to post?
Maybe to check or reply to PMs?
That is very possible.
In the meantime, everyone should keep mining boolberry and developing services to support its growth. Keep contacting shapeshift.io and ask them to add BBR. We need to make spending BBR easier
We also need a market maker on both bittrex en poloniex
If there is no active developer, it is a dead coin. We need a takeover.
CZ is still around and there's no one better. Community needs a kick start perhaps though.
Why is there no one better than CZ? I still don't get this argument as, it seems, there are plenty of highly skilled developers around.
Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released
WARNING
BBR volume has been very low on Bittrex lately. Unless trading volume there picks up I think there is a good chance it could be removed
https://bittrex.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202583874-Bittrex-Market-Removal-Policy-Updated-07-19-15
BBR volume has been very low on Bittrex lately. Unless trading volume there picks up I think there is a good chance it could be removed
https://bittrex.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202583874-Bittrex-Market-Removal-Policy-Updated-07-19-15
Hilarious warning. The very same applies to the coin itself. If there is no development, BBR will be removed from the crypto scene. Bam!
Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released
What's up with this coin? did zoidberg leave?
Such good coin, why not more dev?
Such good coin, why not more dev?
People here are either unwilling or incapable of taking over BBR... Dr. Z is off to French lala land.
Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released
Guys, if you want something to happen, do it yourself.
Fork BBR and do something useful with it, everybody here will follow you, given that Futurama dev is now gone for 1000 years.
Fork BBR and do something useful with it, everybody here will follow you, given that Futurama dev is now gone for 1000 years.
