LOL

Privacy my ass, money launderers.

Keep tumbling your BTC to evade the law, you filthy criminals

Either utter morons or just playing dumb "Sorry I didn't know officer" c'mon they are smart enough to know how this all works.

Anyone who use a Crypto tumbler is more than likely a criminal, let alone one who tries to tumble 13BTC.

And anyone who offers a tumbling service IS a criminal, fact. They are creating services to facilitating money laundering, and actually makes them worse.

Who tries to tumble 13BTC to some randomer LOL, the people defending this poor idiot are probably the conspirers who create such services and scam people.

So let OP post the original address then, the address that held the 13BTC prior to going to the dodgy looking BECH32 addresses.

I would like to run it through transaction monitoring and see score and if it brings anything up, but he wont cause privacy.

So like me and everyone else, we will keep assuming he's a low life scum bag who has accumulated money from the drugs, terrorism, child abuse, human trafficking, murder and any other crime that relates to criminal who use crypto.

Don't worry, Crypto is becoming more stringent and harder to hide from. Eventually criminals who use crypto will go back to using fiat

Quote from mycryptomixer

"For example, if you happen to withdraw funds through a Bitcoin exchange platform who knows your identity, the transaction can eventually be traced back to you."

Surely we can see these BTC came from a mixer, and any compliant Cryptoasset Exchange Service Provider will know its came from a mixer and flag the transaction.

I will speak to my Chain Analysis TX monitoring guys, as this is very interesting. And Crypto from mixers should also be flagged, I am concerned of the transaction monitoring used does not pick up on this.

Receiving address - 38JSoBKFuAYXgvMAKsk8aHYmiMfuFS2AyA

Sending address - bc1qnvg64fx03na3svl59f2k7m2w9zrcrg9gt9vfp9

Change address - bc1qaamrxr0s469970e9m9tea4d9ssa7vfd7uq9cqk

TxID - 3157a6b04b804eaf927d93ee4e03c4a4e1ff1414840dd12105d1c55cde74a49c

All that shows is an address that received 13BTC in total, from a number of addresses:
bc1qnvg64fx03na3svl59f2k7m2w9zrcrg9gt9vfp9
3.36956869 BTC
bc1qrjcr6m2t8hkgda9496hzd7yc454c8n79uk50r3
0.62294878 BTC
bc1quagzl7nd8lalkd749j2cytfp6wj2n7e8dj6qr4
6.92985715 BTC
bc1q42n59rrw0asavum7ljpk854jeh3s827ejpjgj7
2.36230569 BTC

Is that not a mixer sending those bitcoins to the final address that currently holds the BTC? Or are they where the BTC originated without a mixer?

What I wanted to know, and was my original question was, where did Mr 13BTC have his 13BTC originally?
Before sending it to the above BECH32 addresses and ending up on 38JSoBKFuAYXgvMAKsk8aHYmiMfuFS2AyA
Or was the above BECH32 addresses where they originated from and did not go through a mixer?
From my understanding he made one transaction to a mixer, which outputted the 13BTC to the address 38JSoBKFuAYXgvMAKsk8aHYmiMfuFS2AyA
So, what is that original BTC address that Mr 13BTC used before sending his BTC to the mixer or to these BECH32 addresses?

And lets not go on about right and wrong when it comes to crime, the old saying "Crime doesn't pay" springs to mind? Although it certianly paid 3 qs of a m to Mr Crypto Mixer lol.

I do know blockchain works, I just do not know how it works to levels of you mixer guys, as I do not need to wash my filthy bitcoin to evade being traced back to crime.
So its subjective to say to someone "You don't know how blockchain works" if you are referring for it to be used in a way that considered illegal or facilitates money laundering and funding terrorism.
I will say a person who can wash bitcoin must have a very high level of knowledge on blockchain, as well as a criminal behaviour to provide such a vehicle.

Yes one thief stealing from another is still wrong, but in society its a normal occurrence, and what one should expect when doing such activities that law wont protect you from.
Its a bit stupid really to cry and complain that someone stole something from you, that you potentially stole or sourced from other criminal activities isn't it.
Drug dealer gets shot and robbed, it happens. Murderer gets killed in prison, it happens. Do we say "oh my that's tragic"? No, we know its a part of the criminal world. Those who act in such circles will probably feel for another criminal loosing such wealth, people who have no association with crime will probably think the same as me. TOUGH SHIT

Typical paranoid comments from a typical drug taking darknet user, believe me I kind of wish I was in Mr Crypto Mixers situation right now.
Being honest, I may well have done the same. I would of course check the originating wallet and its risk and links to crime, but 3 quarters of a million dollars, that some more than likely criminal idiot just dumped on your lap and expects you to wash it for him. Hard not to lets be honest here.

And I am not the one coming here asking for help with my 3 quarters of a million dollars in BTC am I? So I have no reason to divulge such information, please assume I am a criminal, when I have not come here telling everyone I have a high risk large amount of BTC, and tried to use a money laundering service for "privacy" reasons.
Anyone is going to assume such accusations considering the situation, do you not think?
Only another shady individual who understands Mr 13BTC's possible shady activity and use of needing to use a money laundering service would make other excuses for him.

Plus I am not stupid enough, nor am I a criminal that would need to use such dodgy services.
So I would only share my my ID and POA for KYC, and provide sufficient documentation to suffice the EDD AML regulation information, the "LEGITIMATE" exchange would require, in order to help me legally exchange my BTC to fiat or other coin. I also expect my privacy will be safe, as I have done nothing wrong for that legitimate exchange to want to share my information to a law enforcement agency.

Had the money been sourced from crime, related to a blacklisted/darknet wallet, or I had not been able to provide proof of source of funds, then yes my privacy would be a concern using a legitimate service.
I would expect them to share my information with a law enforcement agency, as well as hold my funds. Still it would be better than Mr Crypto Mixer running of with them.
So this individuals privacy issues are clear as to why he used sch a service, is has nothing to do with sending small amounts to people, as I am sure his original wallet was not linked to any name in particular.

What I am confident is, his original wallet with the 13BTC was either on a blacklist, associated with the darknet, or provided a very low score thus showing it to be a high risk wallet.
Maybe Mr Crypto Mixer uses such tools to check wallets, and if he sees a one of the above mention wallets, he works his magic and washes the coin.
Now, if that is the case, then he has just taken something from a criminal, is he by law supposed to give them back? Or is he legally obliged to report the transaction? He is a criminal himself, so its now just a dispute between 2 criminals.
Again this is just assumptions, but its more than likely the case. As opposed to the morons here thinking this individual with 13BTC was completely legal, and he just mistakenly used a money laundering service for his clean bitcoin as he had privacy concerns. Don't play dumb! We all know.

What else do you expect from handing over your money to a shady unknown person?
He basically walked up the street, saw a guy dressed in black with face covered offering money laundering services, handed his money over and walked off. Very intelligent.

And so what if Mr Crypto Mixer is not to be heard of, he's quarter of a million dollars richer now. and if he HODL's he will be a millionaire soon.
He is most likely sailing off in the sunset, or he is masterminding another mixer site to rob more criminals.
I hope he gives money to the poor, then I would see him as a Robin Hood type character and say he's not so bad.

Plus these mixer sites I am sure are pretty hard to set up, and very complex and only a ew people have the knowledge and expertise to operate such a service. So you could expect all mixer stes are probably controlled by a few, and a legitimate (if you call it that) mixer site is possibly linked to this.
They are offering money laundering services, so they are criminals, I would never believe a mixer site owner to be anything else

If the owner of the 13BTC wants to provide his original wallet address, showing his 13BTC is not linked to anything. I will happily apologise and provide any information you require about myself.

But we all know his "privacy" reason wont allow him to.

Doesn't make it right to steal from him, if that's what happened here.
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Why not?

If this moron stole/hacked/scammed 13BTC, and someone steals from him, tough titty.

If this moron sold drugs or some other related crime to be in possession for 13TC, again tough titty.
If he was on the streets and some bigger criminal taxed him, would you feel sorry for him? And what's he gonna do? Run to the police?

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Mr Crypto mixer say quarter of a million dollars get sent by some idiot criminal, I say idiot criminal as everything points to him being such.
Mr Crypto mixer thought what's he gonna do? Nothing

Say bye bye to your soon to be 1 million

Mr Crypto mixer, whilst i don't agree with theft, if one criminal stole from another, then lets call it the smarter criminal won

STUPID CRIMINAL IDIOT SENDING QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS TO A DODGY UNKNOWN MONEY LAUNDERING CRYPTO MIXER

YOU SIR ARE AN ABSOLUTE IDIOT

You would have to be a complete moron, or just playing dumb and using the "privacy concerns" to think this person is not dodgy.

Ive checked the Redits etc, guy is related to drugs, hacking etc.

No one with 1 legitimately sourced bitcoins would need to use a money laundering service. Anyone who believes other wise needs their head tested.

The guys an idiot anyway, posting on multiple forums of you drug and hacking interests and the possession of 13BTC you tried to money launder, not hard for the FBI to catch you is it.

Yes I know how blockchain works, I just do not know how these dodgy money laundering mixers for criminals work fortunately. I thought stopped existing years ago when they were outlawed.

I am not involved in the illegal use of Crypto, which takes up a small percentage of legitimate usage of Crpyto.

Not everyone uses Crypto for illegal activities any more, and does not need to use such mixers for what you all call privacy, but we all know its to wash dirty darknet coins tainted in blood, drugs, murder, child molestation, trafficking, funding terrorism and any other nasty activity you can think.

I love transaction monitoring on the blockchain, as it helps force you " I want privacy" mixers into your own little space away from compliant exchanges.
Oh but you use such mixers to then dump your coins on legitimate exchanges to cash out to fiat, because if you dump your coins directly to exchanges you will become one of those "Coinbase froze my account" guys.

I bet you mixers love chain analysis scoring

And anyone who owns such mixing service, how do you feel making money off someone who uses your mixer to wash some coins that came from crime or terrorism?
Oh you probably keep telling yourself, they just want privacy lol.
F'ing imbeciles, enjoy serving your criminals and making money off the back of it. You will get good karma

Sorry I am a noob here, and jumped to a lot of conclusions. I didnt read anyting, just hovered over the situation. I am surprised such services exist, even with escrow How does that work? 3rd party arbitration?

But after reading about these exit scams etc, is it not clear that 3 weeks later and not a peep, his 13BTC is gone?

I still stand by my opinion, only and idiot would use such a service if they are legitimate, or a criminal would need such services.

If its a human right, why would the police or a financial institution not allow him to possess such funds in such a situation without proving its origin?
This privacy excuse is BS, its all darknet users and criminals excuse to have reason to want privacy.

I do not care where his funds came from but if he goes down the legal route, which at this point looks pretty pointless, as he has know one to prosecute, he will be required to provide the origin of funds.  was just making him aware, but he clearly already is aware as he would not have used such a dodgy website.

Anyone with a salt grain of intelligence, evidence of proof of funds and nothing to hide would just dump it on Coinbase, Binance or any other LEGAL REGULATED COMPANY FACED BUSINESS.
Thanks to the progress with Crypto compliance we no longer need to user unregulated services, I am not sure what privacy you are after, but using such a regulated site would only be given your data to them, unless you were of course dodgy, and be reported for being dodgy along with funds held, as opposed to funds stolen.

And moron, I am not Mr Mixer Lol, you dullards are short sighted.

Keep mixing your darknet crime related coins to try and un-taint them, and use your "privacy' excuse to make you feel legitimate.

LOL, nice one.
Ive already said a letter is useless at this point, and such letter can be obtained for free on many Crypto discussion sites, as long as you have nothing to hide or done anything wrong, and the registered "Company" has a legal department to forward it too. Its not hard to find the legalities of such situation, providing most importantly you are dealing with a company and some scammer in the form or a mixer service.

But he chose to use an illegal or rogue service to an unknown individual, not company. For what ever reason, it was ridiculously stupid, and I would say, brainless, to send that amount in 1 TX to such a place. Although I do feel for your loss Mr 13BTC, I do not pity your stupidity.

Nobody knows who Mr Mixer is, and I doubt you will ever find out unless you pay some hacker slash investigator like I saw you advertising for.
Even then, if you do find out who he is, what are going to do? File a police report, maybe they will catch them, prosecute, recover funds.
But at this moment you have as much chance at recovering you three quarter of a million dollars just as much as a vicimt of a Nigerian romance scam, or indian Tax scam has at recovering theirs.
Virtually zero sorry If I am being harsh, but that is the reality. I work with compliance, fraud etc with Crypto everyday, its not looking good for you.

I am just baffled why you would even send 13BTC, at current price $761,035.60 to a place with no information on ownership. Hence why the accusations came so quick, as only a criminal, or and absolute idiot would do such a thing.

Again sorry for your loss, maybe I am being a little hard, but in my experience what I see everyday, and honest opinion. Your funds are gone.

If you are a criminal, that amount of money must put you quite high up on the criminal ladder. I guess the other option, if you are such a person, would be to find who owns the site and do what a criminal would do lol.

LOL, what privacy exactly? If you have nothing to hide.
Your BTC is safe, presumably you to basic measure to secure your wallet, not sure what you want to be private from TBH.

Well lets hear it from him

MR 13BTC,

WHY DID YOU USE SUCH A SERVICE IF YOU ARE LEGITIMATE?

Did you not see the "IF" his wallet is linked, hardly an accusation is it?

Yes MrCryptoMixer is running an illegal operation, and yes Mr 13BTC has every right to get his BTC back. If he goes via the police, they will 100% want to know where that money came from and why he is using such services.

If Mr 13BTC (noticed I used "IF" again) does not have have such documentation then he does not have any right to get his funds back, the police have every right to confiscate funds, and to charge both for money laundering and conspiracy for other crimes.

At first I also thought MrCryptoMixer wasn't in the wrong, and assumed it was a legitimate service that complies with local and international AML guidelines, but one look at the website clearly says otherwise, and not to be used or trusted. Had they been a legitimate business, they have every right to hold Mr 13BTC funds and ask for EDD, then file a SAR if necessary.

So, MrCryptoMixer is wrong and illegal. That's agreed upon?

Secondly, as I have said, one look at the website clearly shows they are not a safe or trusting place to deposit your funds, especially 13BTC, even at 2016 prices let alone current ATH's.
So any logical person would say, why on earth would someone use such a site if they were not a criminal, especially if the BTC was purchased through legitimate reasons as they claim.
Anyone with that kind of money is generally smarter than that, and would not use such services unless they were up to something, or its just a simple more money than sense situation.
Maybe a scammer encouraged them to use the site?

Unless MrCryptoMixer has suddenly become complaint and following regulations, its clear MrCryptoMixer has done off with Mr 13BTC funds, with no possible comebacks.

Mr 13BTC is still yet to explain why he used such a service, so I am still thinking the obvious

Well they are already hiding registration info, not a great start. They are offering money laundering services and profiting, so they would want to remain anonymous, let alone if they are scamming as well. 

https://who.is/whois/mycryptomixer.com

Doesn't bring up much, Hong Kong domain privacy company.

To be honest, I doubt you will find who is responsible unfortunately. Unless you get some techy hack investigator lol

good, well currently you are classed as high risk due to the circumstances and transaction amount. Its not slander, as the police will say the same.
Guilty until you prove your innocence I'm afraid, but with correct documentation, that is easy. Plenty of HNW individuals, just requires some EDD.

I sincerely hope you are genuine and a victim here, I hate scammers, and I hate criminals. I also hate scammers and criminals who use Crypto, and services who help then launder money.

I would love to see you beat this, my only concern is, who is MCM? Who owns it? Who is liable? They do not seem to be a registered company, just operating as an individual. So proving their jurisdiction will be tricky.
Even if you managed to get the individuals responsible details, its still going to be difficult.

One question, why would you send 13BTC to such a place? It make zero sense, except stupidity if you are genuine.

I don't care, a letter of such takes minutes, if you know what country they are registered in and who the regulating body. Unfortunately these "privacy" services (money laundering services) are non compliant and operate as rogue traders essentially.

I came across this thread and couldn't resist to pipe in, I just find it so amusing.
A criminal launders money through a rogue service and gets scammed. Its like robbing drug dealers, what are they going to do? Unless they know who it was? NOTHING

The law wont be on his side here unfortunately, unless he can provide documentation as to the source of 13BTC, as well as who owns the site and stole his 13BTC.
If he cannot, then he will be reporting himself as well for money laundering.

I love how Crypto is becoming more compliant, and regulating bodies are more accepting.

This situation just reminds me even more why we need to do things properly and lawfully.

I would've given him a a letter free of charge, no personal info required. Shame a you have no one to address it too as he sent his money to a website, not a registered company. More money than sense clearly.

Providing the originating wallet address wont do anything, except if the 13BTC was sourced from crime or not.

Looking it at it all, mycryptomixer is non compliant, they wont care about KYC and AML regulations, they just received 13BTC from a person who is likely to be a criminal, does anyone know who owns this website? Or where they are based? Operating office? Registered office? I doubt it.

They have literally no comeback and are untraceable, try check who owns the domain, server and where its based/registered.

Criminals are stupid, as we can see from Mr 13BTC sending money to a website with no company information lol, maybe the website are just as stupid and have such information available.

They may have been waiting for a jackpot like this to exit, or they do it often, and as its used by criminals, they cant exactly go to the police can they.

You say they move the funds? they can just mix it using their own services lol.

At this moment kiss your money goodbye, unless you can get something from domain/hosting/server.
Even then you will need to to the police and say you wanted to mix and conceal $600k in crypto, be prepared for more than ID verification.
Have the above I mentioned ready