BTC-e said in news 2: "Metatrader 4 White label and PAMM platforms were provided to us by Fxopen company. But after the charges were made by the US to our service they abrogated a treaty unilaterally."

So, BTC-e have used FXOpen's MT4 platform making FXOpen somehow responsible for money for BTC-e client's MT4 accounts. At the same time FXOpen was offering crypto trading themself but using BTC-e as liquidity provider making BTC-e responsible for money that FXOpen clients have sent to BTC-e exchange. But it all depends how contract BTC-e and FXOpen been made for this "symbiotic" relationship. Is BTC-e anonymous to FXOpen? I don't think so.

So WHO does not know anything about BTC-e? Only BTC-e clients! But why? Guess all remember that festivity party in front of MtGox building.

Also I haven't heard did FXOpen frozen or not BTC-e client's balances on their MT4 platform. If they haven't frozen BTC-e balances, why would BTC-e tokenize MT4 balances?!

They have setup http://btc-e.nz but not http://www.btc-e.nz (newbies usually do not know how to setup www. access to a domain but pros usually do that the first).

I have tried to login with invalid password and was refused to login it so seems that they have legit database. Possible problem is that who ever could get btc-e database does not have actual login passwords but just password hashes. So I will wait for more details before my first login.

Fegbox chatters at http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#fegbox confirmed that old 2FA works but that there are some issues with yahoo email accounts because btc-e require password change after first login with email confirmation and setting new 2FA.

UPDATE96025: USA IPs seems to have been blocked. Thats pretty mean to THEIR own US clients because US gov can access btc-e new site quite easily but regular average Joe that is having his own funds at btc-e can get just 0 bytes from btc-e.nz server. Couldn't they have setup separate page for US IPs? Or they just don't know how to set that up so they have just clicked on nice geo-blocking feature of cloudflare.

It took couple of days for FXOpen to reply to my support ticket. Anyway, they have confirmed that increase of margin req is NOT valid for crypto trades.

Update1:
- their live support said that 5 times margin req increase IS valid for crypto too
- their forum super moderator said that it is NOT valid for crypto but only for FX and CFDs

Yesterday I have received fake Bittrex notification about my account to be frozen because of inactivity. After inspecting their link that link was actually for bittrex.CAM instead of .COM

But anyway I have never opened account on Bittrex anyway. Seems that this phishing issue is based on BTC-e stolen data couple of years ago.

Crypto holders does not need to keep their crypto at an exchange.

FXOpen posted this note couple of hours before august 17th:
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Due to the growing political tension between North Korea and the USA, FXOpen may increase margin requirements up to 5 times their normal values without further notice starting with the market opening on August 17th, 2017. This may affect all traded financial instruments.

We are taking this measure to reduce your risk due to the potential high volatility, rapid price movements or market gaps that may occur in case of further political escalation. Please consider this information in your trading and ensure you have sufficient funds on your account to maintain your positions.

Best Regards,

FXOpen Trading Desk
https://www.fxopen.com/en/about-us/news/fxopen-increases-margin-by-5-times/
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This margin requirement increase of 5 times means that instead of 1:3 leveraged trades, you will be allowed only 1:0.6 (leveraged? or what is called this?). I have asked their support is this true and they just said: "maybe" I have also asked them to opt me out of that "risk protection" as they called.



Trading fees increase 2 times to 1% for full-turn:
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Dear Clients,

Please, note that starting from September 1, 2017 the half-turn commission for crypto accounts will be 0.5% of the transaction volume.

Please, consider this information when planning your trading activities.
https://www.fxopen.com/en/about-us/news/changes-to-trading-commission-on-crypto-accounts/
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Is this trading fee increase also to blame USA Korea political tensions?!

Guys don't forget BTC-e trollbox replacement chat at http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#fegbox

BTC-e came to logical conclusion making fiat and crypto equal in their books.

When this situation with BTC-e started, CoinDesk haven't published any news for days. But today when this simple update6 appeared, CoinDesk published an article within 3 hours.

I almost forgot about BTC-e

So what you guys think who's going to be new mysterious investor: xbtce, fxopen, exmo or ________ ?

Not necessarily. Maybe they owned to BTC-e. It all depends on total trading gains, losses, deposits, positions, margins......... And since all those brokers are high profile with over 100b$ in monthly trades don't be surprised if they had an agreement with BTC-e that included bank escrow account for situation that actually had happen.

Unless an exchange is trading their bank account fiat and crypto coins on some other exchange.

Also it is impossible to know have people deposited more fiat then it was withdrawn or vice versa. Exchange running out of one currency is possible.

You are right but those fiat hot wallets are insignificant to total value. Mayzus is not a bank so they have forwarded all deposits to BTC-e bank account. So only non settled withdrawal and deposit transactions are lost. There could also be situations when an exchange is completely out of required withdrawal hard currency and then they need to get or to borrow it from another source. But an exchange is not into obligation to keep exact amount of each currency as their client's exchange balances are.

Opposite to what? When you deposit into an exchange you are not given fiat value into your exchange balance, but you are given only RIGHTS to trade onto their exchange with their offered value of your deposited asset.

End of day bank settlement, total bank accounts valuation and currency requirements does not have anything to do with actual currencies that are onto exchange/bank client's accounts. Just total value of all assets with total value of all client accounts.

Most guys never read previus posts.

Your exchange balance is not influencing exchange bank accounts the moment when you trade.

It is just a number with some value. You own cash or crypto only after withdrawal.

It does not matter what was your exchange balance. Probably half of users were into fiat. Having fiat balance onto exchange does not mean that you have a share of their fiat bank account as that does not increase or decrease their bank fiat balance. Exchange balance is just a number, not hard cash. No matter if your exchange balance is fiat or crypto, you actually never own coins or fiat until you request withdrawal.

The main issue is with leveraged MT4 positions. Will those positions be liquidated when trade was stopped or left to be auto margin called if trade resumes?

https://etherscan.io/address/0x8eb3fa7907ad2ef4c7e3ba4b1d2f2aac6f4b5ae6

500 ETH went out, 10 mins after Update4. It's a sign, like that input of 54.635 ETH approx 10.000$ 4 days ago.

During Vinnik's arrest FBI got infected by some trojan virus from his smartphone and that virus is now targeting major US infrastructure...... or maybe just Comcast US internet provider is down and that's causing the issue

https://twitter.com/Poloniex

It is always better to go through by legal representative like that lawyer who is offering a free service for BTC-e clients. Otherwise you can only do this:

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/assets/4023651/DSCF4053.jpg

That idea is interesting because owners of that coin could also act in a situation of 51% pool attack, at least by stopping everything until owners and miners could reach an agreement how to proceed.

Let say that in dubious situations 25% of coin owners could initiate voting to stop all transactions and if more then 50% of owners vote for that then all transactions could be stopped making owners and miners eager to find resolution asap or miners could fork that chain