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Re: Where do you sell your coins?
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on 23/02/2014, 20:06:17 UTC
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How Cash Would Be Seen by the Media if Invented Today
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on 23/02/2014, 20:03:05 UTC
World governments announced a plan today to allow citizens to anonymously carry parts of their wealth on their person and exchange it with others using small pieces of colourful paper.

The paper is printed with nationalistic and Masonic imagery, along with numbers that purportedly represent the amount of wealth each piece of paper represents (if the paper is not a counterfeit).

Each of these pieces of paper is formally a ‘note’ from each nation’s central bank, but they are also attracting the term ‘cash’. This is a technical matter that is too complex to cover in our basic primer. Suffice it to say, that it is representative of the complexity and user-unfriendliness of this new system.

http://media.coindesk.com/2013/10/one-million-dollars.jpg

Are ‘bills’ too complex?

These pieces of papers (also known as ‘bills’, ‘dollar bills’, ‘George Washingtons’ or ‘Dead Presidents’ among the shadowy community of anti-banking libertarians who have been the primary users of cash to date) will differ from country to country and are not redeemable outside national borders.

In what will come as a surprise to generations who have grown up with calculators and computers, bills only come in fixed denominations, requiring users to maintain a large number of these pieces of paper that must be aggregated to execute a transaction and then re-aggregated to ‘make change’.

The latter is a complex process of returning to the payee the excess of the payment using yet other bills. (Don’t worry if this sounds complex, we had trouble understanding it ourselves at first and it is certainly not ready for the average consumer in its current form.)

Mike Smith, VP of Employee Training at Sears has said:
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“I cannot imagine training tens of thousands of our employees to use cash, verify that it is genuine, and learn to ‘make change’ without making errors. This is going to require a wholesale installation of special change-making hardware – so-called ‘cash registers’ –  and millions of dollars of employee training, while creating long lines and delays for consumers. Furthermore, we would need to adopt new security procedures and armed guards to avoid theft of the physical bills while in the store or during transport to our bank. We cannot see ourselves adopting cash under these conditions.”

Perfect tool for criminals
The launch of cash has provoked an immediate reaction from law-enforcement agencies worldwide that universally condemned the development.

Mike Smith, the recently confirmed FBI Director, had this to say:
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“‘Cash’ is a 100% anonymous and untraceable payments technology. It is like a weapon of mass destruction launched against law enforcement. It is the perfect payment mechanism for criminals, drug cartels, terrorists, prostitution rings and money launderers. We don’t know how we will be able to combat such a technology and we fully expect that a new generation of super-criminals will emerge, working in the shadows of a world where they can conduct their illicit affairs without leaving a trace.”
officials within the banking system have their doubts about the new plan.

Banking Superintendent of New York State Mike Smith said: “I can’t think of any reason that a law-abiding individual would want to use ‘cash’. At a bare minimum, we believe there should be a licensing procedure for individuals or businesses that plan to use cash – a ‘cash license’, as it were.”

This license would limit cash to trustworthy individuals who keep detailed, auditable records of all their cash transactions in order to keep New York safe from criminals, he added.

Others have concerns about forgery and counterfeiting.

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“Ultimately, even with all the fancy inks, ‘cash’ is just a piece of paper. We fully expect criminal groups and rogue nation states to print fake cash in order to profit or to disrupt the economies of their enemies,” said Mike Smith, an analyst at Stratfor.
“In the interim, we are certain that cash will trade a discount in the real world, given the risk to a counterparty of accepting a forged piece of paper; no doubt cash is a huge step back from the modern cryptography in place throughout our current financial system.”

Consumers unprotected
Though hard to imagine, cash operates with no consumer protection at all. If your ‘bills’ are stolen or lost, they are gone forever.

“I just don’t understand why there is nobody that I can call to reinstate my ‘cash’ if I lose it,” says Mike Smith, a businessman from Toledo. “What type of idiotic wealth and payment system doesn’t maintain transaction and ownership records?”

Moreover, there appears to be no authentication mechanism associated with cash payments or transfers, let alone one that matches modern security standards. Once someone has gained physical control of your ‘bills’, they are free to spend or use them as they wish and there is no way to reverse the transaction, stop them or even identify who has stolen them.

Even simple destruction of a bill, which, as you recall, is just a piece of paper, could result in losses. According to the Director of the newly founded Bureau of Engraving and Printing, mutilated bills that are more than 51% destroyed must be mailed in for a special investigation that will determine if they should be replaced or not.

‘Physical wallets’ reveal security flaw
Proponents of cash have dismissed these concerns saying that various hardware manufacturers, such as Coach and Gucci, will shortly be releasing ‘hardware wallets’ in leather and suede. These wallets are meant to hold the bills and fit into a pocket or purse.
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“Once your bills are safely ensconced in your Gucci wallet and securely placed in your pants pocket [the front pocket is recommended as a ‘best practice’ for security], it is almost impossible for them to be stolen, lost or destroyed,” said Mike Smith, VP of Communications for Gucci NA.

Some early adopters, however, have reported that the hardware wallets have security flaws.

“I was out in Bangkok two weeks ago, at a bar, and I forgot my Gucci wallet there,” said Mike Smith, a visiting tourist. “When I returned the next morning, my wallet was there but my cash was gone!”

We contacted Gucci regarding this hacking attack, but a spokesperson would not comment “about confidential customer financial matters”.

Even criminals have not been immune to the risks of cash. The notorious ‘Silk Road’ drug-dealing marketplace mysteriously closed last week, after vendors and customers left envelopes full of cash (on which they had very clearly written their names) in an anonymous drop-box managed by the exchange.

“Theft of the cash due to a bug in the envelope-sealing process,” was cited as the cause.

While technical experts believe that it might be possible that the glue on the envelope was not correctly applied, they also warn that a ‘bill’ is basically a private and public key at the same time, and note that there might be dangers involved in letting anonymous criminals hold the private keys to your wealth.

Physical presence required
In what might be most unusual limitation on cash, it only works for payments within 26 inches or less (the so-called ‘arm’s length transaction’, as hackers in the community have colourfully dubbed it), because it has to be handed from one (human) party to another to execute the transaction.

This requirement for the exchange of cash is widely thought to be a fatal flaw by traditionalists.

Mike Smith, VP of Retail Banking at Chase said:
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“A form of payment that cannot be used at a distance, cannot be used for e-commerce, cannot be used by mobile devices, cannot be used for machine-based transactions, or cannot be scripted or programmed, cannot be thought of as a payment system. I will admit, as a form of performance art, ‘cash’ transactions are an amusing experiment, but this has no applicability in the real world of banking, finance or commerce.”

He added: “Furthermore, given cash’s association with criminal activities, we will be refusing to offer banking services and terminating the accounts of any customer that uses cash in a business or personal capacity. It is the only way we can ensure we remain compliant with our regulatory obligations.”

Remarkably, if you attempt to use cash in a different country from the one that issued it, it will categorically be rejected.

In order to use cash abroad, you will have to go to designated points, usually in airports or certain banks, with limited hours of operation, that will ‘exchange’ your bills for others printed by the country that you are visiting.

These ‘exchanges’ have high fees – usually 2-3% for each exchange, meaning that tourist will lose 5% of their cash or more on a typical trip just in these exchange costs. This seems extraordinarily high for what is, ultimately, an exercise in multiplication or division.

A step backward for economics
Economists are flabbergasted that lawmakers have allowed cash to be adopted despite their strong objections. A key policy tool of central banks has been the use of positive and negative interest rates to manage economic growth. It appears that this will not be possible with cash.

Mike Smith, a leading economics blogger for the New York Times said: “This is a sad day for macro-economics. If cash ever catches on in any meaningful sense, it will reduce our control over the levers of the economy significantly, by providing a mechanism for depositors to opt out of negative interest rates. Given the fact that it might keep us from preventing the next depression and will definitely reduce tax collections, one could even consider it ‘evil’.”

Environmental and health impacts
Environmentalists expressed concerns about the impact of cash on the environment.

Mike Smith, recently appointed Executive Director of the Sierra Club said: “You would have thought that in 2014, we would have moved beyond pesticide- and water-intensive cotton farming [retracted: cutting down trees], treating the cotton with dangerous inks, and transporting it with fossil fuels, only to represent a value, such as ‘20’, that can be represented electronically at effectively no cost to the environment. When will we ever learn?”

Public health officials also warned that cash could be an excellent vector for disease transmission.

“We tested several ‘bills’ in our labs recently and discovered that the average bill has 20 times more bacteria than a toilet seat,” said Mike Smith, Director of Research at the Mayo Clinic.  “Our advice is that people should avoid cash in general and only handle it if absolutely necessary.“
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“Children, the elderly and immuno-compromised individuals should not handle cash under any circumstances.”

What comes next?
Proponents of cash think it will ultimately be a widely adopted technology that will spread around the world, enabling in-person, mid-tier transactions (not micro-payments, but not mega-payments either) in a manner that is invulnerable to electric or Internet outages and that will usher in a new era of more ‘human’ commerce.

We try to keep an open mind at this publication toward new technology, but, to date, we have a hard time seeing the positive case for cash.

Certainly criminal groups will take advantage of cash’s perfect anonymity to wreak havoc on law enforcement and tax collection, something that is deeply undesirable.

Among law-abiding citizens, we can envision some possible adoption in dense urban hipster communities like Williamsburg, where ‘wallets’, ‘cash’ and ‘making change’ could be yet another reflection of their tongue-in-cheek view of modern societal systems.

Other than that, it would be hard to recommend that the average consumer or merchant becomes involved in what is still today a very buggy system, filled with risk, inconvenience, high transaction costs, and possible disease transmission.

Even if handled perfectly, cash will certainly tar your business and personal life with the seedy reputation of the drug dealers, terrorists, money launderers and anti-establishment anarchists who use it today, threatening business and banking relationships, and raising eyebrows among law enforcement and your community.
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На что потратить биткоины 23 февраля?
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on 23/02/2014, 19:41:38 UTC
Тебе давно надоело получать на 23 февраля носки и пену для бритья? Хочешь сделать себе сюрприз и удивить близких? Американский магазин Fancy.com предлагает забавную возможность получить приятные эмоции в том, где их никто не ждет. Покупая что-либо в интернете ты всегда ищешь возможность получить покупку как можно скорее. Магазин решил пойти от обратного и предлагает купить для себя или в подарок FancyBox - http://fancy.com/things/190403263978277559/Fancy-Box-Subscription. Посылка отправляется раз в месяц и представляет собой коробку с неизвестными тебе самому подарками. Вплоть до момента открытия посылки ты не будешь знать что именно магазин отправил тебе. Содержимое посылки зависит от указанных тобой интересов, но ощущение неожиданности точно сделает момент ее открытия интересным. Кроме того, покупка FancyBox выходит в полтора и даже два раза дешевле чем покупка содержимого посылки по отдельности. FancyBox, как и тысячи других товаров из магазина Fancy, можно приобрести за биткоины с 23 января этого года - http://www.coindesk.com/pinterest-fancy-bitcoin-payments/.
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Другую интересную возможность потратить залежавшиеся биткоины предложил стартап GlassUp, собравший на краудфандинговом сайте Indigogo более $127,000 на очки дополнительной реальности.
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/glassup-augmented-reality-glasses-that-display-messages-from-your-smartphone
Стартап предлагает очки (чем-то смахивающие на Google Glass) по цене в $350. Очки позволят пользователю читать сообщения и электронные письма, обновления из социальных сетей и даже RSS непосредственно перед своими глазами. В дальнейшем очки приобретут дополнительные функции благодаря постоянной связи с телефоном. То есть, на дисплей очков сможет выводиться маршрут передвижения, скорость, пульс и прочее. Очки GlassUp управляются благодаря сенсорной панели встроенной в дужку.
Предзаказ очков уже открыт - http://www.glassup.net/shop/
...доставка ожидается в сентябре 2014.
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Ну а если ты идешь подарок для своих близких, то сервис Gyft - http://www.gyft.com/shop-for-gift-cards/
...может решить проблему на все ближайшие праздники. Gyft предоставляет возможность покупки подарочных карт различных онлайн магазинов за биткоин. Таким образом, биткоины можно обменять на товары в Amazon, Nike, Victoria’s Secret, Zappos и других крупных онлайн магазинах.

Помни, используя биткоин для оплаты товаров и услуг, ты помогаешь распространению криптовалюты. Покупая подарки, ты можешь приносить пользу всему биткоин-сообществу.
С праздником!


original - http://www.coinside.ru/2014/02/23/how-to-spend-bitcoins-23-feb/
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Re: MtGox умирает?
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on 29/01/2014, 22:57:42 UTC
На MtGox’е до сих пор висит заголовок: «торгуй на крупнейшем в мире обменнике bitcoin!»

http://dump.bitcheese.net/images/otazuki/mtgox-header.png

Но он уже не «крупнейший в мире». На http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/ можно увидеть, что объем торгов на нем меньше, чем на BTC-E или BitStamp:

http://dump.bitcheese.net/images/ucaguxa/%d1%82%d0%be%d0%bf-%d0%b1%d0%b8%d1%80%d0%b6.png

По-моему MtGox потерял свое единственное преимущество. Не знаю, что теперь сможет удержать его на рынке.

Цена за биткоин на MtGox’е более чем на $100 выше, чем на BTC-E или BitStamp. Все знают, почему: с MtGox’а хрен выведешь фиат, и единственный способ забрать оттуда деньги — купить биткоины. Разница в $100 выглядит пугающей, поэтому я нарисовал график с относительной разницей:

http://divananalit.org/%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%84%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8/%d1%80%d0%b0%d0%b7%d0%bd%d1%86%d0%b8%d0%b0-%d0%bc%d0%b5%d0%b6%d0%b4%d1%83-mtgox-%d0%b8-btce.png

Как видите, относительная разница пока не такая уж и большая — 15% как обычно.

Итак, я что-нибудь пропустил? Что вы думаете по этому поводу? Или всем пофиг на MtGox?
Я думаю если он не введет LTC и не добавит варианты выводов средств то он умрет совсем!
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Re: Какой кошелек выбрать???
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on 29/01/2014, 22:51:01 UTC
Подскажите кошелек где модно хранить битки!!
да здесь провереный кошелек https://blockchain.info/wallet
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Re: Нельзя задерживать монеты на пуле.
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on 29/01/2014, 22:41:15 UTC
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К сожалению, произошла ошибка, и некоторым пользователям было начислено в тысячи раз больше положенного. Некоторые из них сделали операцию вывода, тем самым опустошив наш горячий кошелек. Если вы один из выводивших, очень просим вас вернуть средства обратно и надеемся на вашу честность. Эти средства принадлежат не вам и не пулу, а другим участникам, таким же как вы.
http://ltcmine.ru/switch_lang.php


Уже несколько таких случаев нашёл, это такое частое явление?
у меня такого не было!
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Re: Где храните биткоины?
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on 29/01/2014, 22:30:40 UTC
А своей головы нет?
На 2-3 флешки и в сейф, а на компе файл пгп шреддером.
Ты имеешь ввиду кошелек на флеху установитьHuh?
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Re: Оптимальные настройки для видяхи 7950.
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on 29/01/2014, 22:14:54 UTC
Скиньте, пожалуйста, оптимальные настройки для видяхи 7950.
да 640 это реально максимум но бывает и 800 показывает
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Re: Cryptsy.com - биржа обмена криптовалют
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on 29/01/2014, 22:10:24 UTC
Cryptsy- биржа обмена криптовалют.

В ближайшее время планируется добавить USD.

А когда USD введут-тоHuhHuhHuh?
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Re: Помагите
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on 29/01/2014, 22:02:52 UTC
Вот скопил немножечко денег,решил взять ноутбук.
Проблема в том что потолок в 20т.р. Что брать? Хотелось бы говнофорков намайнить. Grin
Думаю процессор i5 4 ядра, чтоб не грелся сильно. Есть смысл брать? Или копить дальше?
И что лучше lenovo или Asus за эти деньги.
Я думаю Asus ! Я дружу только с ними!
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Re: Налоги. Актуальные вопросы. ФАК.
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on 18/01/2014, 20:42:41 UTC
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И нужно понимать, что банки в нынешней системе капиталистического общества - не друзтя клиентам, а их враги.

Исправь пожалуйста!
Ато так все расписано и БАЦ...ошибка... Sad
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Re: Осторожно, кидала Carlos-e-spectra / jekaprihodko27
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on 18/01/2014, 19:56:07 UTC
спасибо, учту!
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Где самое дешевое електричество?
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on 18/01/2014, 19:50:43 UTC
Вобщем, в заголовке суть темы была изложена  Cheesy

Я жду ваши ответы  Smiley
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Re: Ищем исполнителей под проект.
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on 18/01/2014, 18:39:48 UTC
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Re: как скоро я смогу отвечать в теме - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3458
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on 18/01/2014, 18:09:43 UTC
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это фигня, я регистрировался на 1 форуме специализированном, там экзамен по физике был, вместо обычной капы из 25 по моему вопросов и задач.
Слава богу, что только по физике))
Вот где знания с ЕГЭ пригодяться  Grin
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Слежение за курсом валют: есть программы?
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on 18/01/2014, 17:50:13 UTC
Я видел пару более-менее адекватных программ для Android, которые следят за курсом и даже пиликают при его изменении.
Это удобно, но...больше подобного я ни на какой системе не встречал!!

Подскажите, есть ли подобные програмки для iOS, OSx, Windows, Linux и так далее?
Может это я такой искатель не удачливый?!
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Re: Как начать
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on 18/01/2014, 17:32:46 UTC
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ещё интересует вопрос энергопотребления и разъемов.
У каждой модели свое энергопотребление, так-что лучьше ввести название модели в поиске и там смотреть сколько она потребляет.
После того, как вы узнаете сколько потребляет данная модель - начинайте считать сколько это вам выйдет по деньгам.
ВАЖНО! Особенно учитывайте, что с пожиранием определенного количества электроэнергии цены на нее увеличиваються.
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Как появился лайткоин и биткоин?
by
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on 18/01/2014, 16:35:07 UTC
Все же интересно...
информации про сами BTC биткоины и лайткоины просто пруд пруди, а вот про то, как они сами появились не сказано ничегошеньки!
Кто знает, делитесь, пожалуйста!

Инересно же Smiley