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Re: [Awesome Miner]- Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 5000 miners
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breich
on 04/09/2017, 06:15:48 UTC
Another feature request: can we get a profit switching threshold?  Suppose I'm using the managed profit miner with a stats pull every 2 minutes, and profit switching every 5 minutes.  Let's say the current best algorithm is Equihash at $3/day.  At the next profit switching interval, Equihash is still at $3/day, but Groestl is at $3.10/day.  Personally, I don't want to profit switch over to Groestl, because the gain in return is not worth the 5-10 second downtime from profit switching.  However, if Groestl were at $4/day, then I'd want to profit switch.  So, if I were able to define my threshold at 25%, i.e. there needs to be at least a 25% difference in price for a swap, then I'd be able to avoid the switches that are -EV.  In our example, at a 25% threshold I wouldn't be profit switching unless Groestl/the current best algo were worth $3.75/day.
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Re: [Awesome Miner]- Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 5000 miners
by
breich
on 04/09/2017, 00:05:44 UTC
I personally feel it's better to look at a coin's average... maybe 24 hours is a good indicator, but I prefer longer averages to the tune of 3 days to a week.  You will get much more consistent profits by mining a coin that stays popular at #3 all week than trying to chase coins that tank before you can see the profits.  It's kind of counter-intuitive.  I'm hoping Patrike can add some more customization in determining the parameters on how the profit switching works.  Whattomine.com already has parameters to look at 24 hour, 2 day, and 3 day averages.
I started looking into this a little while ago when it was discussed last time, and I found a way to support 24h avg statistics for Nicehash, zpool and WhatToMine - but not for Mining Pool Hub.

I will go ahead and make the implementation for these sources that supports it, because it's only a small implementation. I will add a new settings in the Options dialog (probably in the Statistics sub section for Coins&Profit) where you can select between "Current" and "24h average". This will be used for the information you see on the Coins tab, the Online Services tab and for the profit switcher.

You are correct that WhatToMine is very flexible here, but the other sources are not.

Yes, the only way you could do it with MPH is to have AM keep it's own running average every time it checks WTM or Coinwarz.  Which kind of lends itself to a couple of questions I've had.

When using profit switching, AM is strictly relying on what NH, MPH, and ZPool say is the most profitable, correct?  the Coins tab data is really just there for convenience?  Is there a way to match what WTM says is "most profitable" to one of the profit-switching services?  Or does that happen only when you use a custom pool grouping with a managed profit miner?

Another question I have deals with the hashrates defined in the Algorithms or Profit Profiles.  When we manually put in the hashrates or use the really awesome new benchmarking feature... should the rates defined there be a single card or the entire rig?  Does AM extrapolate that I have  6 cards and use the multiple rate when determining if switching to a different algorithm should be done?

As long as your benches are all the same--pegged for one card or pegged for six--it doesn't much matter.  Personally I have a separate profile for my 1070 rig as they actually hash slightly different from my 1080 Ti rigs.  Each set of my benches are pegged to 1x of that card. 
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Re: [Awesome Miner]- Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 5000 miners
by
breich
on 02/09/2017, 21:53:15 UTC
That's kind of the knock on profit switching in general.  When a coin jumps to the top, thousands of miner's profit switching algos switch to it, spiking the difficulty, thus knocking the coin back down the list.  In the meantime, depending on how often your profit switching algo checks, it will keep on mining the "not as profitable" coin.  Then you have to wait for the auto-conversion from the pool which can take many many minutes to hours, and by that time the coin has tanked in value... so you actually get less BTC than you would have just mining the coin and holding or waiting and manually changing to BTC.

I personally feel it's better to look at a coin's average... maybe 24 hours is a good indicator, but I prefer longer averages to the tune of 3 days to a week.  You will get much more consistent profits by mining a coin that stays popular at #3 all week than trying to chase coins that tank before you can see the profits.  It's kind of counter-intuitive.  I'm hoping Patrike can add some more customization in determining the parameters on how the profit switching works.  Whattomine.com already has parameters to look at 24 hour, 2 day, and 3 day averages.

This is something most people don't get. Constantly chasing most profitable coin doesn't make the cut in the long run. You could be mining a coin at a profit right now, but by the time you have enough of that coin to exchange it the price could have go down. Of course, it could go up too.

TBH, chasing short term profit mining only works with NiceHash. They make a log of your profit at a given time and add it to your balance. It doesn't matter if the price drops later, the coins you mined at a certain price get immediately converted at that exchange rate and added to your balance. In sites like MiningPoolHub you are actually earning coins. MPH only automates the exchange process and they have minimums for this, so it's very likely that the price will be different by the time of exchange than the at time you mined the coin. I'm not really sure but I think zpool is like NiceHash too.

So, for those mining coins directly, it's better to stick to one coin that have a good profitable average in a week.

The argument goes both ways, though; the price could be higher at the time of exchange just as much as it could be lower.  If you're generating enough volume in the x minutes of profit switching to a given algo, then generating the coins to get them onto the exchange isn't an issue.
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Re: [Awesome Miner]- Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 5000 miners
by
breich
on 01/09/2017, 23:08:41 UTC
Hi again,
This will be released in a little while, where you can override the global settings for Nicehash / Zpool / MPH per Managed Profit Miner. Can you please test the feature and give feedback?

http://www.awesomeminer.com/img/link/profit-override-workers.png



Thanks for the feature add; I just updated and it seems all is functioning as intended.  I will continue to monitor and let you know of any issues.

Question regarding zpool profitability numbers: is there any particular reason the '24h actual' reported value isn't used for the actual profitability of the algo?  Frequently I'll see zpool algos at, say, $7/day, but when factoring in the 24h actual, the return is much lower.  What is the intent here?  Which number is most accurate?  In example, at time of posting, zpool Hmq1725 reports a BTC/GH/day of .09475, but the 24h actual is .08012.  I don't want a situation where I'm mining something reportedly as the top algo but in reality is halfway down the list.
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Re: [Awesome Miner]- Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 5000 miners
by
breich
on 28/08/2017, 23:08:31 UTC
So this part applies, partially:

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Profit switching - Bitcoin address per miner

The pools used for the profit switching feature are configured in the Options dialog, Profit switching section. For the built-in pools like Nicehash, there is only a single field to enter the Bitcoin address to mine to. This address will be used for all Managed Profit Miners.

To set unique Bitcoin addresses per Managed Profit Miner, the Bitcoin address field can be set to - (a dash). Each Managed Profit Miner must now specify a Bitcoin address in the Add to worker name setting.

However this only works for MiningPoolHub.  On the managed profit miner properties, there is no field for nicehash/zpool btc address.  So my add to worker field has [mph username].[worker name] and that's it.

To be more succinct: using a Managed Profit Miner, and when specifying '-' in the fields for Options -> Profit Switching -> Managed Profit Switching, I can only either use a zpool/nicehash btc address, by specifying that address in Managed Profit Miner Properties -> Mining Pool -> 'add to worker name', or I can use a miningPoolHub account by specifying [mph username].[worker name].  I cannot do both, and I would like to be able to so that I can have different sets of nicehash/zpool/MPH addresses/usernames across different managed profit miners.
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Re: [Awesome Miner]- Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 5000 miners
by
breich
on 27/08/2017, 23:43:49 UTC
Patrike,

I've used awesomeminer for about six weeks and just found this thread, thanks for being so active.

Is there a 3.2.6 version for the remote service?  If so, each time I try to remotely upgrade, I get a status bar and then it disappears.  Additionally, the link you posted earlier (http://www.awesomeminer.com/download/setupdev/AwesomeMinerRemoteAgent.msi) is stale.

I'm using Hamachi to connect to a physically remote miner, and the remote agent connection is failing.  My awesomeminer service lists the remote agent as 'stopped', but when I try to launch a miner, all buttons but 'reboot computer' become grayed out--and the reboot computer button does not function.  This miner functioned properly prior to the 3.2.6 update.  I attempted to unisntall/reinstall the remote agent on the miner in question but I still get the same issues.  Note that I have two other miners running over hamachi/remote service v3.2 and I don't have any issues.

Also, is there any chance that the managed profit miner can point to a different set of MPH/NH/zpool addresses?  I have a use case where I want to point different groups of miners to different MPH usernames/NH btc addresses from the same instance of awesomeminer; currently I can only point all of my managed profit miners to one set of addresses/usernames.
Thanks for pointing out the incorrect link in my previous post - I've updated it now. It should be:
http://www.awesomeminer.com/download/setupdev/AwesomeMinerRemoteService.msi

Are you running v3.2.6 on both Awesome Miner and the Remote Agents? Mixed versions are not supported. If you try the Diagnostics button, do you get any additional information? If not, please send me the log file via mail (toolbar: Tools -> Log file) and indicate the time of the failure.

The updated link worked and solved all issues, thanks.

Is the aforementioned feature request a possibility? 
Is scenario #3 in this guide similar what you are looking for?
http://www.awesomeminer.com/help/workername.aspx
To specify "-" for a pool or Nicehash/zcash bitcoin address, and then define the worker name for each miner instead?

So this part applies, partially:

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Profit switching - Bitcoin address per miner

The pools used for the profit switching feature are configured in the Options dialog, Profit switching section. For the built-in pools like Nicehash, there is only a single field to enter the Bitcoin address to mine to. This address will be used for all Managed Profit Miners.

To set unique Bitcoin addresses per Managed Profit Miner, the Bitcoin address field can be set to - (a dash). Each Managed Profit Miner must now specify a Bitcoin address in the Add to worker name setting.

However this only works for MiningPoolHub.  On the managed profit miner properties, there is no field for nicehash/zpool btc address.  So my add to worker field has [mph username].[worker name] and that's it.
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Board Mining (Altcoins)
Re: 1080Ti Specific - Best mining option
by
breich
on 25/08/2017, 19:31:58 UTC
I've got an MSI 1080 Ti that I can barely get above 250 H/s in equihash.  Similar issues across other algos.  I've got 16x Tis from different manufacturers and this is the first one to give me issues.  Should this be RMA'd?  I've tried:

--hard uninstall/reinstall of drivers
--swapping board slots
--swapping riser cards/cables
--current and previously stable drivers

The card is currently set at 100% power/+25 gpu/+300 mem and it is consistently pulling at ~45% power.  It shares the rig with two other 1070 GTXs running at 65% power with no issues.  Power draw from the wall is not an issue.  1200W PSU.

Very strange issue, what is the exact model of your MSI branded gpu? Is it a custom cooled version? If you tried all other methods to test, the last effort should be RMA for replacement.

MSI 1080 Ti Duke 11G OC.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0722YBZGK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I'm trying everything I can to avoid an RMA as I'm not physically located with the machine, but I really can't think of anything else, at this point.
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Re: [Awesome Miner]- Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 5000 miners
by
breich
on 25/08/2017, 16:51:14 UTC
Patrike,

I've used awesomeminer for about six weeks and just found this thread, thanks for being so active.

Is there a 3.2.6 version for the remote service?  If so, each time I try to remotely upgrade, I get a status bar and then it disappears.  Additionally, the link you posted earlier (http://www.awesomeminer.com/download/setupdev/AwesomeMinerRemoteAgent.msi) is stale.

I'm using Hamachi to connect to a physically remote miner, and the remote agent connection is failing.  My awesomeminer service lists the remote agent as 'stopped', but when I try to launch a miner, all buttons but 'reboot computer' become grayed out--and the reboot computer button does not function.  This miner functioned properly prior to the 3.2.6 update.  I attempted to unisntall/reinstall the remote agent on the miner in question but I still get the same issues.  Note that I have two other miners running over hamachi/remote service v3.2 and I don't have any issues.

Also, is there any chance that the managed profit miner can point to a different set of MPH/NH/zpool addresses?  I have a use case where I want to point different groups of miners to different MPH usernames/NH btc addresses from the same instance of awesomeminer; currently I can only point all of my managed profit miners to one set of addresses/usernames.
Thanks for pointing out the incorrect link in my previous post - I've updated it now. It should be:
http://www.awesomeminer.com/download/setupdev/AwesomeMinerRemoteService.msi

Are you running v3.2.6 on both Awesome Miner and the Remote Agents? Mixed versions are not supported. If you try the Diagnostics button, do you get any additional information? If not, please send me the log file via mail (toolbar: Tools -> Log file) and indicate the time of the failure.

The updated link worked and solved all issues, thanks.

Is the aforementioned feature request a possibility? 
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Re: 1080Ti Specific - Best mining option
by
breich
on 25/08/2017, 14:02:10 UTC
I've got an MSI 1080 Ti that I can barely get above 250 H/s in equihash.  Similar issues across other algos.  I've got 16x Tis from different manufacturers and this is the first one to give me issues.  Should this be RMA'd?  I've tried:

--hard uninstall/reinstall of drivers
--swapping board slots
--swapping riser cards/cables
--current and previously stable drivers

The card is currently set at 100% power/+25 gpu/+300 mem and it is consistently pulling at ~45% power.  It shares the rig with two other 1070 GTXs running at 65% power with no issues.  Power draw from the wall is not an issue.  1200W PSU.
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Re: [Awesome Miner]- Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 5000 miners
by
breich
on 25/08/2017, 13:24:29 UTC
Patrike,

I've used awesomeminer for about six weeks and just found this thread, thanks for being so active.

Is there a 3.2.6 version for the remote service?  If so, each time I try to remotely upgrade, I get a status bar and then it disappears.  Additionally, the link you posted earlier (http://www.awesomeminer.com/download/setupdev/AwesomeMinerRemoteAgent.msi) is stale.

I'm using Hamachi to connect to a physically remote miner, and the remote agent connection is failing.  My awesomeminer service lists the remote agent as 'stopped', but when I try to launch a miner, all buttons but 'reboot computer' become grayed out--and the reboot computer button does not function.  This miner functioned properly prior to the 3.2.6 update.  I attempted to unisntall/reinstall the remote agent on the miner in question but I still get the same issues.  Note that I have two other miners running over hamachi/remote service v3.2 and I don't have any issues.

Also, is there any chance that the managed profit miner can point to a different set of MPH/NH/zpool addresses?  I have a use case where I want to point different groups of miners to different MPH usernames/NH btc addresses from the same instance of awesomeminer; currently I can only point all of my managed profit miners to one set of addresses/usernames.

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Re: BITMAIN Antminer S3 support and OverClocking thread
by
breich
on 16/08/2014, 16:13:23 UTC
I'm running two batch 5's off of one thermaltake smart 800W, 4 PCI-E connectors.

How significant of a risk do I run by overclocking my batch 5's to 250MHz? Temperature of the S3's are fine (44/43) but I'm not sure how real the risk of burning out the PCI-E cords is.
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Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread.
by
breich
on 14/08/2014, 01:36:17 UTC
I've got two S3 batch 5s running off of one thermaltake smart M 850W. Each S3 has two pci-e plugs. Each S3 is running at about 216 GH/s.

I was under the impression that each miner could run with only two plugs each. Am I mistaken?