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I couldn't find any discussion on the forum about this BIP.
I assume that most of you are familiar with the BIP-119 proposal.
I don't think it will win 90% approval of the miners' hash rate.
I don't know if it good or bad for bitcoin a proposal like this, but for sure it will benefit Rubin financially.
According to the suggested Speedy Trial, the neutral votes are counted as 'positive'.
Loosing the fungibility it's not exactly what I envision for bitcoin's future.
I assume that most of you are familiar with the BIP-119 proposal.
I don't think it will win 90% approval of the miners' hash rate.
I don't know if it good or bad for bitcoin a proposal like this, but for sure it will benefit Rubin financially.
According to the suggested Speedy Trial, the neutral votes are counted as 'positive'.
Loosing the fungibility it's not exactly what I envision for bitcoin's future.
Besides signing a message from the genesis block address or signing a message with satoshi's PGP is there any other way to prove that CSW is Satoshi?
Can theymos provide evidence from e.g. Satoshi's private messages that CSW is lying or you think it will involve the forum in unnecessary problems of a legal nature?
Can theymos provide evidence from e.g. Satoshi's private messages that CSW is lying or you think it will involve the forum in unnecessary problems of a legal nature?
Thanks pooya87, I'll have to quote it in case anyone else is looking for similar information.
Source of the quote: https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/Bitcoin.org/issues/3698
It appears from what I read that the bitcoin whitepaper is inaccessible in UK!
On the other hand i spot this: https://craigwright.net/bitcoin-white-paper.pdf
Didn't he break the law like that?
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Hey guys,
As judgement has now been entered against me for "copyright infringement", I'll soon receive a UK court order to stop broadcasting the Bitcoin whitepaper to the UK. The court order will be published on the usual UK judgements site (https://www.bailii.org/). I've been shown a draft, and the heading of the order reads:
IF ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO IS A DEFENDANT DISOBEYS THIS ORDER THAT INDIVIDUAL
MAY BE HELD TO BE IN CONTEMPT OF COURT AND MAY BE PUNISHED BY A FINE,
IMPRISONMENT, CONFISCATION OF ASSETS OR OTHER PUNISHMENT UNDER THE LAW
IF ANY A COMPANY OR OTHER ORGANISATION WHICH IS A DEFENDANT DISOBEYS
THIS ORDER THAT COMPANY OR ORGANISATION MAY BE HELD TO BE IN CONTEMPT
OF COURT AND MAY BE PUNISHED BY A FINE, CONFISCATION OF ASSETS OR OTHER
PUNISHMENT UNDER THE LAW. ANY DIRECTOR OR OFFICER OF THAT COMPANY OR
ORGANISATION MAY ALSO BE PUNISHED BY A FINE, IMPRISONMENT, CONFISCATION
OF ASSETS OR OTHER PUNISHMENT UNDER THE LAW
Obviously, Bitcoin.org has to follow the laws of the land in the jurisdictions it serves. The UK makes up a noticeable amount of our traffic, and the UK ISPs will block us if we don't comply. Undoing such a block would come at great expense and would take some time, as all things legal tend to do. On balance of "how can we maximize the good we do?" I think complying with the order and continuing to serve UK visitors other valuable Bitcoin educational material is important. The Bitcoin whitepaper doesn't get tons of traffic each day (there's obviously some days with lots of traffic like a prominent person tweets out the link to it), and even then, this order is only limited to just UK visitors.
Also, I don't want anyone associated with the company behind Bitcoin.org, if ever identified, and if even temporarily in the UK, to be at risk of potentially 2 years in jail. Indeed, as one judge in relevant UK case law put it:
"In circumstances where directors of the defendants may wish to come to this country on business or for pleasure, the prospect that their next visit may be for a more extended duration and in less comfortable accommodation than anticipated should provide a real incentive to comply with an order."
It goes without saying that I don't want to put myself and others at risk of some serious time in a UK jail.
Shortly after I receive the order the following changes will be made to the website:
The Bitcoin whitepaper located at https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf won't be accessible to UK based visitors.
All derived works of the Bitcoin whitepaper such as translations located here: https://bitcoin.org/en/bitcoin-paper will not be accessible to UK based visitors.
The court requires that we publish information about the infringement, to deter future infringers (there's very specific provisions of the wording and where to place this notice), for a 6 month period. UK based visitors will see a small banner near the top of the site, with a short sentence about the the case, that default judgement was entered, and that Wright was the winner. It's more like a short summary of what happened, and not really a promotion of Wright. The judge was particular to add the wording of "default judgement", and also "the claim was undefended".
I believe at some point the COPA case will prove Wright perjured himself in obtaining this judgement and order. Hopefully in the next few years he'll be brought to justice. We live in a stupid world where people can get locked away for years for relatively minor offences like drug possession, however people like Wright can just continue on abusing the courts with no real consequences. It sucks that me, hodlonaut, McCormack, and various Bitcoin developers have to deal with this nonsense, but truth will prevail in the end and liars like him can never succeed in trying to stop Bitcoin's success no matter how hard they try.
As judgement has now been entered against me for "copyright infringement", I'll soon receive a UK court order to stop broadcasting the Bitcoin whitepaper to the UK. The court order will be published on the usual UK judgements site (https://www.bailii.org/). I've been shown a draft, and the heading of the order reads:
IF ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO IS A DEFENDANT DISOBEYS THIS ORDER THAT INDIVIDUAL
MAY BE HELD TO BE IN CONTEMPT OF COURT AND MAY BE PUNISHED BY A FINE,
IMPRISONMENT, CONFISCATION OF ASSETS OR OTHER PUNISHMENT UNDER THE LAW
IF ANY A COMPANY OR OTHER ORGANISATION WHICH IS A DEFENDANT DISOBEYS
THIS ORDER THAT COMPANY OR ORGANISATION MAY BE HELD TO BE IN CONTEMPT
OF COURT AND MAY BE PUNISHED BY A FINE, CONFISCATION OF ASSETS OR OTHER
PUNISHMENT UNDER THE LAW. ANY DIRECTOR OR OFFICER OF THAT COMPANY OR
ORGANISATION MAY ALSO BE PUNISHED BY A FINE, IMPRISONMENT, CONFISCATION
OF ASSETS OR OTHER PUNISHMENT UNDER THE LAW
Obviously, Bitcoin.org has to follow the laws of the land in the jurisdictions it serves. The UK makes up a noticeable amount of our traffic, and the UK ISPs will block us if we don't comply. Undoing such a block would come at great expense and would take some time, as all things legal tend to do. On balance of "how can we maximize the good we do?" I think complying with the order and continuing to serve UK visitors other valuable Bitcoin educational material is important. The Bitcoin whitepaper doesn't get tons of traffic each day (there's obviously some days with lots of traffic like a prominent person tweets out the link to it), and even then, this order is only limited to just UK visitors.
Also, I don't want anyone associated with the company behind Bitcoin.org, if ever identified, and if even temporarily in the UK, to be at risk of potentially 2 years in jail. Indeed, as one judge in relevant UK case law put it:
"In circumstances where directors of the defendants may wish to come to this country on business or for pleasure, the prospect that their next visit may be for a more extended duration and in less comfortable accommodation than anticipated should provide a real incentive to comply with an order."
It goes without saying that I don't want to put myself and others at risk of some serious time in a UK jail.
Shortly after I receive the order the following changes will be made to the website:
The Bitcoin whitepaper located at https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf won't be accessible to UK based visitors.
All derived works of the Bitcoin whitepaper such as translations located here: https://bitcoin.org/en/bitcoin-paper will not be accessible to UK based visitors.
The court requires that we publish information about the infringement, to deter future infringers (there's very specific provisions of the wording and where to place this notice), for a 6 month period. UK based visitors will see a small banner near the top of the site, with a short sentence about the the case, that default judgement was entered, and that Wright was the winner. It's more like a short summary of what happened, and not really a promotion of Wright. The judge was particular to add the wording of "default judgement", and also "the claim was undefended".
I believe at some point the COPA case will prove Wright perjured himself in obtaining this judgement and order. Hopefully in the next few years he'll be brought to justice. We live in a stupid world where people can get locked away for years for relatively minor offences like drug possession, however people like Wright can just continue on abusing the courts with no real consequences. It sucks that me, hodlonaut, McCormack, and various Bitcoin developers have to deal with this nonsense, but truth will prevail in the end and liars like him can never succeed in trying to stop Bitcoin's success no matter how hard they try.
Source of the quote: https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/Bitcoin.org/issues/3698
It appears from what I read that the bitcoin whitepaper is inaccessible in UK!
On the other hand i spot this: https://craigwright.net/bitcoin-white-paper.pdf
Didn't he break the law like that?
⭐ Merited by Welsh (2)
I want to know currently who has the rights over the WP. After reading some articles about Craig Wright and removing the Whitepaper from bitcoin.org it is a bit unclear.
In addition the source code of the bitcoin software is an open source.
How a man can copyright something which was originally released under the open source MIT License?
In addition the source code of the bitcoin software is an open source.
How a man can copyright something which was originally released under the open source MIT License?
Re: Any relation between the bitcoin mining difficulty and the time between blocks?
Today I did a quick calculation.
From the Genesis block that was mined on January 3, 2009 until today there are 4793 days.
4793 days are approximately 6,901,920 minutes.
The highest block, at the time of the calculation was 723731
min/blocks = ~ 9.53 min/block
Thank you all for your answers. I will lock the thread.
From the Genesis block that was mined on January 3, 2009 until today there are 4793 days.
4793 days are approximately 6,901,920 minutes.
The highest block, at the time of the calculation was 723731
min/blocks = ~ 9.53 min/block
Thank you all for your answers. I will lock the thread.
Any relation between the bitcoin mining difficulty and the time between blocks?
Hello guys,
reading this:
It is still not clear to me how the time between the blocks is determined and how it can be determined at 10 min?
Here are statistics for the last few blocks:
Mining 723578 took less than a minute, there were only 75 transactions totally 217.39 Btc
Mining 723579 took approximately 6 minutes with 1528 transactions and 2258.98 btc
The hash rate is at ATH together with the network difficulty, if it plays a role.
Source:
https://www.blockchain.com/charts/difficulty
https://www.blockchain.com/charts/hash-rate
I looked at several pages with the history of the blocks and could not see one that was close or over 10 minutes.
All are under 10 minutes.
The average total should be well under 10 minutes.
reading this:
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The exact amount of time it takes for block generation varies and depends on the difficulty of the hash.
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Each cryptocurrency has a different block time—Bitcoin takes around 10 minutes, while Ethereum only takes around 14 seconds
Source: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/block-time-cryptocurrency.asp#:~:text=Each%20cryptocurrency%20has%20a%20different,generated%20by%20the%20hashing%20algorithm).It is still not clear to me how the time between the blocks is determined and how it can be determined at 10 min?
Here are statistics for the last few blocks:
Code:
723,582 00000000000000000000780705dd3172aa5cb960c5e7a1a796ae6585cab66ae0 2022-02-16 09:16:50 Poolin 899 1,267.60BTC 56,337,000USD 0.04BTC 1,627.17USD 623.583app.units.kb
723,581 0000000000000000000612239d746e3abf06986d3b588e4b0c820a05b359b4ce 2022-02-16 09:12:24 F2Pool 182 309.87BTC 13,771,700USD 0.02BTC 810.02USD 267.991app.units.kb
723,580 00000000000000000006355d665747311467dfbf43d248361570d0807af65989 2022-02-16 09:11:33 Unknown 1258 1,665.97BTC 74,042,200USD 0.05BTC 2,289.57USD 922.846app.units.kb
723,579 000000000000000000096b5fe0bcd5df426700c97441e596284c85beb62c3d0b 2022-02-16 09:05:18 F2Pool 1528 2,258.98BTC 100,398,000USD 0.06BTC 2,691.3USD 1,345.095app.units.kb
723,578 00000000000000000006d410b462e7babc9a1e320edad8e070d454904f0b9280 2022-02-16 08:56:25 SlushPool 75 217.39BTC 9,661,460USD 0.00BTC 129.81USD 36.624app.units.kb
723,577 00000000000000000009be5e51184e3270441cac6113eae7255a5e7b3e3fe5a8 2022-02-16 08:55:51 F2Pool 855 1,176.71BTC 52,297,700USD 0.03BTC 1,183.89USD 421.271app.units.kb
Source: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/blocks723,581 0000000000000000000612239d746e3abf06986d3b588e4b0c820a05b359b4ce 2022-02-16 09:12:24 F2Pool 182 309.87BTC 13,771,700USD 0.02BTC 810.02USD 267.991app.units.kb
723,580 00000000000000000006355d665747311467dfbf43d248361570d0807af65989 2022-02-16 09:11:33 Unknown 1258 1,665.97BTC 74,042,200USD 0.05BTC 2,289.57USD 922.846app.units.kb
723,579 000000000000000000096b5fe0bcd5df426700c97441e596284c85beb62c3d0b 2022-02-16 09:05:18 F2Pool 1528 2,258.98BTC 100,398,000USD 0.06BTC 2,691.3USD 1,345.095app.units.kb
723,578 00000000000000000006d410b462e7babc9a1e320edad8e070d454904f0b9280 2022-02-16 08:56:25 SlushPool 75 217.39BTC 9,661,460USD 0.00BTC 129.81USD 36.624app.units.kb
723,577 00000000000000000009be5e51184e3270441cac6113eae7255a5e7b3e3fe5a8 2022-02-16 08:55:51 F2Pool 855 1,176.71BTC 52,297,700USD 0.03BTC 1,183.89USD 421.271app.units.kb
Mining 723578 took less than a minute, there were only 75 transactions totally 217.39 Btc
Mining 723579 took approximately 6 minutes with 1528 transactions and 2258.98 btc
The hash rate is at ATH together with the network difficulty, if it plays a role.
Source:
https://www.blockchain.com/charts/difficulty
https://www.blockchain.com/charts/hash-rate
I looked at several pages with the history of the blocks and could not see one that was close or over 10 minutes.
All are under 10 minutes.
The average total should be well under 10 minutes.
Re: What is the relation between the Seed Words and the Private key?
Anyway, what's your aim on getting the private key from your seed phrase?
My aim is only knowledge. Until now I thought the seed was actually a private key converted for easier memorization.
Re: What is the relation between the Seed Words and the Private key?
A BIP39 seed phrase is first passed through PBKDF2 using 2048 rounds of HMAC-SHA512, alongside the word "mnemonic" concatenated with any additional passphrase as a salt. This produces a 512 bit number.
This seed number is hashed again using HMAC-SHA512. The resulting 512 bit number is split in to a master private key (left 256 bits) and a master chain code (right 256 bits).
The master private key is used to generate a master public key via elliptic curve multiplication.
The parent private key (for hardened paths) or parent public key (for unhardened paths) is then combined with the parent chain code and an index, again hashed using HMAC-SHA512, and further combined with the parent private key to generate a child private key.
This continues down the derivation path as described in BIP44 to generate all the private keys in your wallet.
This seed number is hashed again using HMAC-SHA512. The resulting 512 bit number is split in to a master private key (left 256 bits) and a master chain code (right 256 bits).
The master private key is used to generate a master public key via elliptic curve multiplication.
The parent private key (for hardened paths) or parent public key (for unhardened paths) is then combined with the parent chain code and an index, again hashed using HMAC-SHA512, and further combined with the parent private key to generate a child private key.
This continues down the derivation path as described in BIP44 to generate all the private keys in your wallet.
This is exactly what I was looking for, but nowhere could I find the steps so simply summed up in a few lines as in your answer. Thanks.
Thank you bitmover, good sources to read.
I will probably have more questions in the future.
What is the relation between the Seed Words and the Private key?
Hello friends,
I have the following question:
What is the relation between the seed words and the private key and how can one convert the seed into a private key?
Taking BIP39 as an example.
I read the following:
Quote from: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Seed_phrase
At first I thought the conversion of the seed into a numeric value will result into a private key, but I seem to be mistaken.
What are the steps to convert a seed to a private key?
I have the following question:
What is the relation between the seed words and the private key and how can one convert the seed into a private key?
Taking BIP39 as an example.
I read the following:
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A simplified explanation of how seed phrases work is that the wallet software has a list of words taken from a dictionary, with each word assigned to a number. The seed phrase can be converted to a number which is used as the seed integer to a deterministic wallet that generates all the key pairs used in the wallet.
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This compares well with writing down a raw private key where a single letter being unreadable or incorrect can make the private key useless (depending on the serialization format).
Quote from: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Seed_phrase
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A deterministic wallet is a system of deriving keys from a single starting point known as a seed. The seed allows a user to easily back up and restore a wallet without needing any other information and can in some cases allow the creation of public addresses without the knowledge of the private key. Seeds are typically serialized into human-readable words in a seed phrase. The BIP 0032 standard for hierarchical deterministic wallets is used by all good wallets as of 2019.
Quote from: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Deterministic_walletQuote
This BIP describes the implementation of a mnemonic code or mnemonic sentence -- a group of easy to remember words -- for the generation of deterministic wallets.
It consists of two parts: generating the mnemonic and converting it into a binary seed. This seed can be later used to generate deterministic wallets using BIP-0032 or similar methods.
Source: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039.mediawikiIt consists of two parts: generating the mnemonic and converting it into a binary seed. This seed can be later used to generate deterministic wallets using BIP-0032 or similar methods.
At first I thought the conversion of the seed into a numeric value will result into a private key, but I seem to be mistaken.
What are the steps to convert a seed to a private key?
Code:
mnemonic seed > binary seed > deterministic wallet > deterministic address > private key ?
I see so many people wearing signatures these days.
How do you state the cryptocurrency income from signature campaigns in your tax return? The tax authorities in Europe want to provide them with a document for the purchase of cryptocurrency, I guess it's the same for USA & Canada.
How do you state the cryptocurrency income from signature campaigns in your tax return? The tax authorities in Europe want to provide them with a document for the purchase of cryptocurrency, I guess it's the same for USA & Canada.
⭐ Merited by PawGo (1)
I've contacted the customer service and they said it's no problem as long as the OP has the password.
https://ibb.co/Px2rYPF
https://ibb.co/hFVch7K
He probability already got access to those coins. Good luck to the OP anyway.
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As long as you can remember your password
We should be able to assist you in recovering the Wallet identifier, contact our official support team
📝 - https://t.co/CTSB4uBUdg
https://t.co/KhXBh47I2e Official Twitter Handles 🔍👇 https://t.co/f3rx1CfCCK
We should be able to assist you in recovering the Wallet identifier, contact our official support team
📝 - https://t.co/CTSB4uBUdg
https://t.co/KhXBh47I2e Official Twitter Handles 🔍👇 https://t.co/f3rx1CfCCK
https://ibb.co/Px2rYPF
https://ibb.co/hFVch7K
He probability already got access to those coins. Good luck to the OP anyway.
If I have the backup of the keys from an android bitcoin wallet. How can I get the hash of the backup file (the name is like bitcoin-wallet-keys-XXXX-XX-XX) with John the ripper?
I have a Dash backup and I think the above procedure will work on the dash wallet too as they are similar, right?
I can make a new backup with password 123 and test all the possible hash variations created with john the ripper and test which one will be correct but I decided to ask first here.
The Internet is silent about this.
I have a Dash backup and I think the above procedure will work on the dash wallet too as they are similar, right?
I can make a new backup with password 123 and test all the possible hash variations created with john the ripper and test which one will be correct but I decided to ask first here.
The Internet is silent about this.
Re: Extracting the hashed password from a Litecoin Android Wallet.
I fount this guide : http://litecoinlearner.com/androidwallethelp.asp I have to enter all the variations of the password there.
Is there a way to extract the password hash at all?
Is there a way to extract the password hash at all?