Good question.  

The names are different.  There is "The DAO" which more or less resides at daohub.org and is referred to as "DAO", and then there is the Wings DAO which we think people will just call "Wings".

I think there will be a lot more confusion for practitioners of Qigong as they have a much different take on the meaning of "dao".

Besides the names the Wing DAO is different from "The DAO" in that the goal with Wings is to make a platform for people to easily launch their own Decentralized Autonomous Organizations.  We don't see a world with just one monolithic DAO.

Thanks. My point was not about asking for more stuff. I was pointing out it would be a little hypocritical for the hardware manufacturers to gladly give away hardware for the sake of a review which may affect the objectivity of the reviewer, while not supporting the developer who wrote the software they depend on. Fortunately neither of the parties involved here suffer from that as Dogie's reviews remain objective in my opinion, and Spondoolies offered me an SP10.

As for writing free software, I actually put aside and sacrifice some time that I used to work professionally to continue working on cgminer (and other bitcoin software projects) turning it into a part time job, though I have continued to try and incentivise the maintenance of all my projects as free software by charging less for paid code when the source remains with an open license such as GPL, or simply maintaining/updating the existing driver for a once off donation. The core cgminer code I continue developing for free. Driver code I find it hard to write for free when it's used to allow a hardware manufacturer to make bucketloads of profit. I also get paid as much as possible in bitcoin since ultimately I'm here to help the bitcoin ecosphere as much as I'm here to get paid. Yes I'm bitcoin-operated as someone once called me, but only for certain aspects of what I spend time coding.

Thanks for the generous offer. I have no need for that at the moment but I appreciate the offer.

This gets stranger and stranger. I had some time this evening and took a chance with additional troubleshooting since I'm pretty dead in the water otherwise. The board powers up fine when A,C,D PCI-E are plugged in, but B is what causes the issue. I see nothing wrong with that connection.

If I try to get the board to hash in this state - I am not sure this is possible - I get the Operation status 20 error and it continuously re-detects the board. I have not touched anything to do with firmware and since it doesn't seem to be helping the others with that problem and I'm not going to try yet. I am wondering if it is complaining because that one isn't powered up and if it is possible to disable a chip. I'm not even sure if things are set up that way - just hoping for some kind of way to get it partially alive again.

Thanks for any help.

You have the same problem as me  just stopped hashing 5 days ago and gives this error. Teal said I need to get a multimeter to track it down. 

You have the same problem as me  just stopped hashing 5 days ago and gives this error. Teal said I need to get a multimeter to track it down. 

Can someone do me a favor and copy and past their .conf file here.  My cgminer is keeps giving me a JSON error when I try to write it and I get a blank file.  I just need to build my own.
Thanks!

I left most recently, and since I'm no longer under their control I can now share with anybody interested two important things.

One, bcp19, whose first name is Bruce, DOES work for BFL. Ask him and I'm sure he'll say yes, but if he doesn't, I have no problem with linking to pictures of him while employed at the plant. He's been there since last fall. I seriously don't know what game he's playing on this forum and what he's trying to accomplished, but I'm pretty sure it ain't good. To be fair, he is a nice guy.

Second. BFL received chips months ago that were intended for what you guys consider the Monarch. Thousands of miners have already made at BFL's plant using those new chips. Ask Bruce that also. He knows. Since you're now curious as to where all them miners went and are continuing to go, here... http://www.coinware.io/. Moreover, HashTrade, NimbusMining, LiquidBits, and Netsolus. The lead guy for CoinWare is named James (I'm not stating his last name because I don't want to get in trouble, but I'm sure you smart guys can figure it out). James visits the plant a lot, walking around assembling unescorted then heads to the offices of management to discuss whatever.

This post is valid https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262052.msg6877963#msg6877963 because I was there when two guys from HashFast (don't get the name mixed up with HashTrade) walked the plant with Sonny, David, and Josh.

I honestly don't want to get mixed up with this mess because I have a family and all. BFL treated me pretty fairly while I was there, but feel it important for you guys who have millions still tied up and waiting for equipment to be aware. It's a shame that you guys who ordered first will probably be the last to get your miners. At least when you do get them, you'll make your money back, even if it takes longer than you planned, if I understand correctly how the whole thing works. Still, it's a screwed up deal.

One more thing, for what it's worth. Everybody in the plant knows about Sonny's past, and some not mentioned here, and we all joke about how we are (was for me, now) working for crooks and scumbags, most the time in Spanish when management is not around, of course.

Heck, I might as well add this tidbit, even though it doesn't matter none except to Sonny's girlfriend. Sonny has been screwing one of the pretty Mexican girls in assembly since early last year. I'm not going to mention her name for obvious reasons, but everybody at the plant knows it except Sonny's girlfriend who have a son together. I don't see that relationship lasting too much longer due to them fighting a lot, where then Sonny may start seeing the Mexican girl full time then.

Sorry if I said too much. All I wanted to say was about Bruce and CoinWare and how you guys are getting screwed big time.

Peace.

So whaddaya'all think, a blue chip like NEOBEE, or not quite?

Figured I'd try here rather than a strict WTB thread but if anyone is interested in selling a BabyJet I'd be interested in buying. These seem to be pretty nice little miners when they work!

Does anyone have one bare Golden Nonce chip that they are willing to sell? I am trying to build up a documentation on the evolution of crypto currency mining.

Thanks

Some people have big money involved and every second you are "fooling" around with shit it's not hashing making a reward. If the whole idea is to just fool around with hardware and squeeze a hash point higher then everyone else with a custom type setup then mommy is paying for everything or you just have bank.

Monkey work is what makes this shit fun. Somebody on the forums said "Leave shit alone?? Bitch, this is Bitcoin!!! Ain't nobody gonna just leave it alone!!"

Look forward to getting my boards.

I think this might be a bit much for me to tackle.
Do they have a plug and go model?

Yep, running errands while deposits confirmed and out of stock when I got back. Grumble grumble... Hopefully there's a batch 3, I was really looking forward to playing with these.

I would be curious, btw I cant find the buy button on that site..

I had those exact fans on my avalon b2 .. ROFL ... they are loud as hell and sure can move air like a mofo... I thought my avy was gonna slide off the bench.... LOL