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Re: [WGR][MN] | Wagerr | The Betting Blockchain | $108.6 MM bets in WGR placed
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btcsnippers
on 16/06/2021, 12:14:52 UTC
What actually IS impressive:
  • Developing a blockchain application which has everyday growing usage, even by people not familiar with crypto
  • Developing a trustless web sportsbook which is as user-friendly as centralized sportsbook
  • Offering disruptive technology with WGR being a decentralized bookmaker - one of its kind - which is now even used by a traditional bookmaker to hedge liability
  • Having introduced DeFi wrapped tokens and liquidity farms for Uniswap and Pankakeswap in a very short time
I could continue with more points but recommend DYOR for discovering the advantages, you won't believe how undervalued this project is

What actually IS NOT impressive:
  • Creating empty hype for a "coming soon" project
  • Making empty promises using a ton of buzzwords without real fundamentals
  • Being listed on big exchanges bribing them with lots of money
  • Creating pump schemes and tricking newbies into buying worthless tokens

Let me Add some to your list.

NOT impressive.

Developing at a pace making continental drift look fast.
Talking about a big US based exchange "SOON" for 2 years and comming up with Beaxy
Promise transparency and be about as transparent as a slab of concrete. --( how much of the ICO funds are left you tell me )
Calling yourself decentralized when you are clearly not and pushing the development of that decentralization down the road year after year.

I recommend you DSMR.

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Re: Wagerr speculation thread
by
btcsnippers
on 10/06/2021, 07:59:23 UTC
Upon checking the website, it seems like a great project. I wasn't aware of this until now and I hope that it could bring a new way. It's been around for a couple of years now and I think it's a great approach towards the gambling industry. Now that you mentioned this, I think it's a great time to buy this. Grin


Just in case you have some quick help  they have a quite active telegram channel https://t.me/wagerrcoin



Looks like this bull is passing WGR by its back down to 6 cent there is not enough drive from the team to get wagerr noticed.
They are not willing to spend any money on marketing.


Yep, have to agree on that : seems like the team is much more focused on development than on marketing.
Still think this coin is an undervalued gem thou.

Remember BetaMax ?


Mmh not sure: are you referring to video cassette recorder system developed by Sony ages ago?

wow you are Old (like me) .. yes thats what i was refering to it was much better then VHS .  VHS took the market  Betamax is mostly forgotten.
Better product doesnt allways win if it doesnt get marketed and promoted properly and thats Wagerrs problem the team is not willing to spend money on promotion.



It doesn't, just look at augur.  Completely inferior product but because it's on known exchanges and decent press upfront it has a much higher market cap.  Unfortunate because wagerr dogs auger

looking at how Auger works Wagerr should be valued at 10 times that.
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Re: Wagerr speculation thread
by
btcsnippers
on 09/06/2021, 18:05:27 UTC
Upon checking the website, it seems like a great project. I wasn't aware of this until now and I hope that it could bring a new way. It's been around for a couple of years now and I think it's a great approach towards the gambling industry. Now that you mentioned this, I think it's a great time to buy this. Grin


Just in case you have some quick help  they have a quite active telegram channel https://t.me/wagerrcoin



Looks like this bull is passing WGR by its back down to 6 cent there is not enough drive from the team to get wagerr noticed.
They are not willing to spend any money on marketing.


Yep, have to agree on that : seems like the team is much more focused on development than on marketing.
Still think this coin is an undervalued gem thou.

Remember BetaMax ?


Mmh not sure: are you referring to video cassette recorder system developed by Sony ages ago?

wow you are Old (like me) .. yes thats what i was refering to it was much better then VHS .  VHS took the market  Betamax is mostly forgotten.
Better product doesnt allways win if it doesnt get marketed and promoted properly.
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Re: Wagerr speculation thread
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btcsnippers
on 08/06/2021, 13:24:38 UTC

Looks like this bull is passing WGR by its back down to 6 cent there is not enough drive from the team to get wagerr noticed.
They are not willing to spend any money on marketing.


Yep, have to agree on that : seems like the team is much more focused on development than on marketing.
Still think this coin is an undervalued gem thou.

Remember Beta Max ?
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Re: Wagerr speculation thread
by
btcsnippers
on 07/06/2021, 18:17:31 UTC
Seems like Wagerr project final is getting the attention it deserves : they have a working product unlike their competitors, their own blockchain where you can bet completely anonymous without max limits and country restrictions.
They are gaining some traction on twitter and it is now reflection on their market price with an awesome triple up , from 0.05 to around 0.15 at the moment.
Their market cap is extremely low and I'm confident there is still much room for further growth





Looks like this bull is passing WGR by its back down to 6 cent there is not enough drive from the team to get wagerr noticed.
They are not willing to spend any money on marketing.

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Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS
by
btcsnippers
on 29/05/2021, 18:21:47 UTC
Is there any channel left for XBY community to talk or only here on bitcointalk ? i dont really see why it was needed to shutdown all communication channels.(telegram and Discord)
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Re: Wagerr speculation thread
by
btcsnippers
on 13/01/2021, 15:58:23 UTC
I could have missed it but I wanted to get a feel for what people thought about Wagerr.

Some key points I see:

-At a rediculously low price compared to previous years (in terms of sats not fiat) as are most alts.

- The one thing I lile about this coin/team is that it has a fully functioning betting mechanism that utilizes the blockchain the verify bets and burn and/or mint new coins based on wins and losses.  It works flawlessly and eliminates high 3rd party fees and eliminates the risk with sending your coins/money to a 3rd party where it could be locked up for a multitude of reasons or even just stolen.

I think this is defimately a niche coin but has a very nice use case that people are using now. 

Anyone have any comments on future pricing for wagerr?  Looks like there is limited downside with a high ceiling if it can gain some traction in the gambling community.

Wagerr's Problems :

Marketing is none existent. 
Marketing at this time consists of  We updated our website and Tell your friends.
Its been in development for 3 and half years and it has been Glacial.
Recently a big update came through and there was no marketing to celebrate is huge event for Wagerr to attract any kind of attention.
It promised transparency on how the ICO funds would be spent there has not been any.
Its been saying for 3 years now a big exchange will be added SOON.
The presence of the Ionomy crew in Telegram that keeps on pushing their shitty exchange with no real volume.
The Affiliate marketing plan that has been in the works for at least 6 months to be soon arriving  six months is generous i think its been over a year.
From Discord: "The affiliate though is probably the most important. The details are still being ironed out and hence why no one has really spoken about it but essentially their are two paths. One is just a simple affiliate where they direct betting volume to the platform and they earn a clip of the dev fund. The second is a more professional type setup where someone can white label wagerr or just utilise the chain to offload risk."
Offload Risk ? posting stuff like that just seems so detached from reality. thanks to Uniswap we have a little more volume but offload risk come on.
Several websites where build for betting, angry ex team members told us about them and then those websites just disappeared from view when we asked Cui bono. (Slickbet and another one i forgot the name)

With the Latest updates we are at a crossroads,  either there is going to be a real marketing team hired that will push wagerr beyond its ATH of 1 usd with a real sized exchange or it will slowly die  out.
But as it stands only David knows what funds are available for that huge marketing push that will be needed so for outside investors its a really unattractive deal at this time.
If there are millions for marketing then Wagerr is a great investment if there are not then not so much.



Moving forward requires open communication about the remaining ICO funds , new exchange with standing and volume  external marketing team and maybe the affiliate marketing if they can ever figure out how to make it work.

Thats my 2 cents on it .. I am sure the fanboys will disagree but this is what I see.

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Re: 🤖[ANN][BIS]Bismuth - Beyond DeFi
by
btcsnippers
on 04/01/2021, 19:51:23 UTC
any news on whats happening with the Bis stuck in cryptopia ?
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Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS
by
btcsnippers
on 01/09/2020, 07:49:50 UTC
Static nodes up and running yet ?
I havent looked at this project for awhile did anything noteworthy happen since the  patent ?
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Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT
by
btcsnippers
on 30/08/2020, 08:51:46 UTC
The website is down. No updated on their YouTube channel, only one reason man. Forget about your investment.

combination of outright lies and incompetence .. well at least the "team" paid themselves nice salaries for a few years. and has a ton of "free" miners now if you dont have to share with investors its decent money.
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Re: [ANN] ⛏ ⛏ ⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT
by
btcsnippers
on 14/08/2020, 15:39:00 UTC
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Not because you disagree with me its the things you disagree about.
ok you tell me you do the math what does 1000 s9 pay today after this btc spike and how much do you get divided by 15.000.000 tokens.
I know the answer do you ?


A single antminer S9 can currently yeild  ~0.02341693 BTC. So 1,000 s9's running without any down time, in theory should yield 23.4 BTC each month.  

This BTC is split between the team and token holders.  With token holders supposedly getting 50% as the "investors profit share".

23.4 / 2 =  11.7 BTC
So 11.7 BTC for the token holders  each month.
11.7 x ~11,000 USD  = $128,700

Coinmarket cap shows a circulating supply of 15,724,272 ROCK2  tokens.

If we assume that all 15 million are held by retail  and get a portion then

128,700/15million =  0.00858 cents USD per token held

Assuming you hold 1,000 ROCK2 then the dividend yeild is $8.58.  

How is my math?  

The fact that IRM used "puffery"  (its is a legal term) in its ICO is nothing new. Many over promoted their ICOs to generate interest. Not saying it was right or ethical (from a business viewpoint).  And lots of mis-information as I do not ever remember IRM PROMISING massive ROI.  There calculation was correct based on a series of (flawed) assumptions. If anyone actually believed their ROI calculator that was not set up in real time then they were not thinking very much about their investment (ie. they clearly "cherry picked" the best numbers to vastly inflate the predicted static ROI).  There is the old saying, "If it seems to be too good to be true, it probably is".  

Does all the BS and questionable management from IRM matter to me.... Not really as all the other coins I hold pay me nothing.  For me this is a longer term hold, I will exit with a profit eventually. Simply by buying more ROCK2 with each month with my earned dividend I am slowly  dollar cost averaging down. I will eventually escape this crypto trade with minimal losses. Other than constant complaining what is your strategy to leave this trade with profit?  If you are focussed on everything the company is doing wrong then you are a poor trader as you aren't focusing on your money and your exit strategies... nothing else matters.  Good luck.


You where good a math right , How long will it take for 1 rock to payout one usd in the current situation ?
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Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT
by
btcsnippers
on 14/08/2020, 10:30:49 UTC
"I want to say "THANK YOU" to anyone who has supported our project in the ico period and for the whole time. Please share your thoughts and ideas on how we can renovate our company and build a sustainable cashflow. The team is ready to do all kinds of tasks."

lol .. you should have done this Right after you got the money not when it runs out ..
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Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT
by
btcsnippers
on 02/08/2020, 08:52:27 UTC
WOWWWWWWW so much LOL is going on here!


Haters go to Hell.


As usually ))))

Have to agree there are a lot of people here who can not separate market altcoin  moves with ROCK2 coin prices.
To all those who think Ice Rock is doing a poor job please go Google search  all the other group mining ICOs (excluding cloud and hash contract ICOs) . There have been several but so far Ice Rock Mining is one of the few true successes. One of the few projects of this type to move their project this far with miners and dividends. While you may not be happy with returns the IRM team have worked a lot to make their farm a reality.
If you are complaining about IRM can you imagine how investors of Swissalps mining, Hydrominer, Moonlite or Terraminer feel. All crypto miners with no dividend payouts (and all these projects started before or at the same time as Ice Rock but where are they now?) .



"Dear holders!

 Due to the lack of profit on the s9 miners, we were forced to turn them off.  The electricity bill came out with a negative value. There are also costs of wages for farm operators and other repair costs.  85% of the team is currently sick with Covid in various forms.  The situation with medicines is very difficult , there are no basic medicines. We are in a quarantine.  We hope everything will be fine."

85% has covid i guess they where showering together uh all the miners turned off due to lack of profit Just when btc is going up.   .. How much did they payout per token over the its life span ?
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Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT
by
btcsnippers
on 16/04/2020, 16:00:01 UTC
"😷😷😷Cнaпшoт бyдeт 13 aпpeля в  13.00 +6GMT

Snapshot of ROCK2 holder wallets will be in the 13th of April at 13:00 GMT+6😷😷😷

имeннo в этo вpeмя вaм нeoбxoдимo:

1) Дepжaть вce вaши тoкeны ROCK2 в вaшиx кoшeлькax, к кoтopыми вы имeeтe дocтyп (y вac ecть пpивaтный ключ)

или

2) Ecли вы дepжитe тoкeны ROCK2 нa биpжax token.store, www.deex.exchange и т. Д., Пoжaлyйcтa, oтпpaвьтe тoкeны  в cвoй личный кoшeлeк (к кoтopoмy ecть пpивaтный ключ) и дepжитe иx тaм.

exactly at this time, you need to:

1) HOLD all your  ROCK2 tokens in your wallets that you own (you have a private key)
or
2) If you are holding ROCK2 tokens on token.store, www.deex.exchange and etc. balances, please withdraw them to your personal wallet and HOLD them there.

Пoжaлyйcтa пoймитe вcю кoмaндy IRM, ceйчac cлoжнoe вpeмя из-зa кapaнтинa вo вceй cтpaнe и вo вceм миpe, бepeгитe ceбя и cвoи ceмьи😷😷😷, мы пpилaгaeм вce ycилия чтoбы быть нa плaвy.

Haм нeoбxoдимa вaшa пoддepжкa и пoнимaниe.  Mы нaдeeмcя вce oбpaзyeтcя.

Please understand the whole IRM team, now it’s a difficult time because of quarantine throughout the country and around the world, take care of yourself and your families😷😷😷, we are working hard to stay afloat.

 We need your support and understanding.

We hope everything will be ok."


Working hard to stay afloat  Right Right you mean you burnt through the 10 mil in investors funds and now you are having a hard time staying afloat ?  maybe its time to go around with the Hat ask for some DONATIONS .. or maybe Sell your Bikes .
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Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT
by
btcsnippers
on 03/03/2020, 11:55:28 UTC
WOWWWWWWW so much LOL is going on here!
Haters go to Hell.
As usually ))))

Lie to people, rip them off, then laugh at them.
Classy.

only at you LOL

Laughing at me? If you like.
Actually, you're laughing at all the misguided investors who gave $10m to a bunch of incompetents to play at mining, in the hope that they might actually get a return based on trusting you. What a mistake that was.
Your scheme has been a comedy of errors and underperformance, from which you personally have done alright (got yourself some crap motorbikes and a few Rolexes) but your investors victims have just turned into bagholders of a wash traded token now worth a few cents.
The only thing you got right was timing, and that was by accident.
Two years ago the crypto world was a different place, perfect for some amateurs like you to put a scheme together, with a fictional White Paper (which you abandoned almost immediately) to part FOMO sufferers from their money.

I simply pointed out (as did others) the overwhelming likelihood of what's happened since actually happening, by commenting on your more obvious complete lies.
Remember a few of the more ridiculous ones? Probably not, you've told so many.

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ROI of 439% per year is easy to explain
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In case of S9 miner we expect nearly 10-15$ per day, but very likely we will get much better miners that will deliver us more than 35$ in a day!
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Ice Rock can be the first project using industrial new generation miners on its farm. ROI 700%

By the way, have you heard of something called the "halving"?








well there is that and awhole bunch more But .. where is the Detailed finacial report ?  how much is Left where money has gone  you know little things like that. 10 million isnt pocketchange so where did it all go ?

And you Pass on the biggest lie of all thats still part of the name ?? come on  Mining in a Ice Cave  No cooling needed ,  pretty much everyone called bullshit on that one right away and they where right.
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Re: [ANN]❁ KORE Tor Masternodes, Browser, VoIP, Aether OS, KOREPhone, KOREbay Funded
by
btcsnippers
on 21/01/2020, 12:09:22 UTC
Updates announcement is live. until the team can do more consistent meetings on updates we will be moving to this format. this will tell you what we have been working on and what we have been focusing our efforts on but it will not give percentage estimates of how far along those tasks are. thank you for understanding.
https://kore.life/latest/


Matrix

How is the development going?

yeah a update or 2 wouldn't  hurt Discord also looks dead a few posts on telegram this year but it would be nice if the project isnt DEAD to Post a monthly update Here and on Discord.
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Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS
by
btcsnippers
on 06/01/2020, 08:31:28 UTC
So what are the numbers ?
cant wait to see what has been applied for.
It seems more people are Waiting because if that Tiny pump is all that comes from pp thats pretty sad. or  there isnt anyone  just 4 guys with lots of alts?

Also i dont understand the comment "i can wait another 2 weeks"  can you explain why it would take so long to just put up the numbers with links ?
How is that not a 20 second job ?
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Re: [ANN] 💰⛏ 💰⛏ 💰⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT
by
btcsnippers
on 02/12/2019, 05:44:41 UTC
It is obvious by doing some research that there is almost no possibility of future profit with ROCK2.   Why is there still volume being traded on the market?   Who would buy?

I thought the same but they announced on 21 November that they finally found new location suitable for 1000s of miners that they needed to move from a warehouse in Kyrgyzstan. The news also reflected on ROCK2 token price increasing more than 100%. Tokens are still cheap compared to ICO price so you can buy a decent share of their mining facility for a few ETH. But be careful, they didn't show anything yet, so maybe wait until they actually start mining again.

From Telegram:
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Friends❗️We have great news❗️We have found an option that can make Icerock Great again💪 in the coming days, wait for the photo of the object on which we can most likely place all the IRM capacities 😎😎 and start mining as soon as possible before the NEW YEAR 💪💪💪
At the location that we liked the excellent technical conditions and the price of electricity👍, as well as free capacity in the amount of 25 megawatts without capital financial investments.  If someone needs hosting and someone wants to host their miners with us, write @Dias1990 directly.  We will keep you informed ✅

 ok lets recap .. they get 10 mln + from ICO investors manage to get up to 2000 miners running for a few months then stopping all payments (i havent heard about them resuming payments)  and are now asking for you to send them your miners ..
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Re: ICE ROCK MINING - SCAM!!!
by
btcsnippers
on 24/09/2019, 06:33:38 UTC
now the goverment supposedly closed them down , just when bitcoin got over 10k for awhile , classic .
I also really enjoyed watching them ride around on their brand-new looking motorcycles on facebook very classy.
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Re: [ANN] ⛏ ⛏ ⛏ ICE ROCK MINING ICO2 - LIFETIME PROFIT
by
btcsnippers
on 24/09/2019, 04:56:19 UTC
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Not because you disagree with me its the things you disagree about.
ok you tell me you do the math what does 1000 s9 pay today after this btc spike and how much do you get divided by 15.000.000 tokens.
I know the answer do you ?


A single antminer S9 can currently yeild  ~0.02341693 BTC. So 1,000 s9's running without any down time, in theory should yield 23.4 BTC each month.  

This BTC is split between the team and token holders.  With token holders supposedly getting 50% as the "investors profit share".

23.4 / 2 =  11.7 BTC
So 11.7 BTC for the token holders  each month.
11.7 x ~11,000 USD  = $128,700

Coinmarket cap shows a circulating supply of 15,724,272 ROCK2  tokens.

If we assume that all 15 million are held by retail  and get a portion then

128,700/15million =  0.00858 cents USD per token held

Assuming you hold 1,000 ROCK2 then the dividend yeild is $8.58.  

How is my math?  

The fact that IRM used "puffery"  (its is a legal term) in its ICO is nothing new. Many over promoted their ICOs to generate interest. Not saying it was right or ethical (from a business viewpoint).  And lots of mis-information as I do not ever remember IRM PROMISING massive ROI.  There calculation was correct based on a series of (flawed) assumptions. If anyone actually believed their ROI calculator that was not set up in real time then they were not thinking very much about their investment (ie. they clearly "cherry picked" the best numbers to vastly inflate the predicted static ROI).  There is the old saying, "If it seems to be too good to be true, it probably is".  

Does all the BS and questionable management from IRM matter to me.... Not really as all the other coins I hold pay me nothing.  For me this is a longer term hold, I will exit with a profit eventually. Simply by buying more ROCK2 with each month with my earned dividend I am slowly  dollar cost averaging down. I will eventually escape this crypto trade with minimal losses. Other than constant complaining what is your strategy to leave this trade with profit?  If you are focussed on everything the company is doing wrong then you are a poor trader as you aren't focusing on your money and your exit strategies... nothing else matters.  Good luck.


So how is this working out for you bro , still happy investor in the legit trustworthy IRM ?