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Re: Nine9.ninja - [PonziGame] ★ 400+ BTC Input ★ Altcoins ► Automated ► 125% Return
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bufa
on 07/05/2015, 17:44:09 UTC
Here again my offer also for this round:
If someone wants to invest and (some of) my investments from 1NiBuR1CPEJp3bPEoPvkMvqQZMsxoaWavn got paid via your investment, i will pay you back 50% of this to your BTC address. So you can enter the game for half of the normal costs. Please contact me via PM before.
I have several investments, most 0.1BTC, some 0.02BTC which will runs for about 4.5 hours from now.
My last offer for someone, who is quick. I will pay 70% back, if you push my entries. Otherwise i will quit my game at this point.
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Re: Nine9.ninja - [PonziGame] ★ 400+ BTC Input ★ Altcoins ► Automated ► 125% Return
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bufa
on 07/05/2015, 13:44:00 UTC
Here again my offer also for this round:
If someone wants to invest and (some of) my investments from 1NiBuR1CPEJp3bPEoPvkMvqQZMsxoaWavn got paid via your investment, i will pay you back 50% of this to your BTC address. So you can enter the game for half of the normal costs. Please contact me via PM before.
I have several investments, most 0.1BTC, some 0.02BTC which will runs for about 4.5 hours from now.
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Re: Nine9.ninja - [PonziGame] ★ 392+ BTC Input ★ Altcoins ► Automated ► 125% Return
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bufa
on 28/04/2015, 17:12:58 UTC
Here again my offer also for this round:
If someone wants to invest and (some of) my investments from 1NiBuR1CPEJp3bPEoPvkMvqQZMsxoaWavn got paid via your investment, i will pay you back 50% of this to your BTC address. So you can enter the game for half of the normal costs. Please contact me via PM before.
I have several investments from 0.001 to 0.1 BTC, which will runs for about 24 hours from now.
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Re: Nine9.ninja - [PonziGame] ★ 392+ BTC Input ★ Altcoins ► Automated ► 125% Return
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bufa
on 25/04/2015, 10:00:12 UTC
This has been explained already, the system has a safe mode.
Thanks, i didn't saw this information. Where is it?
Is it still save to invest, or not?
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Re: Nine9.ninja - [PonziGame] ★ 392+ BTC Input ★ Altcoins ► Automated ► 125% Return
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bufa
on 25/04/2015, 06:44:42 UTC
Hi together, it is again not working?
There is one transaction https://blockchain.info/de/tx/b44f9f7066f07efb63d04f1fe2c6e872c723aa5012d18f349f13c93d6e62e94a, which is older than 3 hours, but still not listed there.
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Re: Nine9.ninja - [PonziGame] ★ 392+ BTC Input ★ Altcoins ► Automated ► 125% Return
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bufa
on 22/04/2015, 05:15:32 UTC
Does anyone have proof of a decent amount being paid out to there blockchain.info wallet ?
If the script is not struggling, it paids out also to blockchain wallets without problems. Also amounts > 1BTC.
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Re: Nine9.ninja - [PonziGame] ★ 380+ BTC Input ★ Altcoins ► Automated ► 125% Return
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bufa
on 21/04/2015, 07:53:05 UTC
I will not support such a scam, therefore i am out.
I lost a lot of money and will not invest again.
Also my still open investments will expire:

I somebody want to have a 50% discount to enter this game, feel free to push these (or some of these) investment.
I will pay back 50% of my payment back to you!
the fault its only yours, you dont know play this and that is why you say the word "scam", this is not a scam there is a big difference, sorry for your lost.
It seems, that you really do not understand it. Of course i know to play this. The problem was "only" a problem in the script. The script shows, that there was enough money to pay (which was correct), but id didn't pay.
Of course i know the game, the rules and the risk.
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Re: Nine9.ninja - [PonziGame] ★ 380+ BTC Input ★ Altcoins ► Automated ► 125% Return
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bufa
on 20/04/2015, 11:59:12 UTC
bufa: why so many investments at one time?
When I going to invest at future I will only have 1 investment at time. I prefer not earn money instead of loosing too much. Until now it was good strategy.
@Girl: Please look at the timestamps. I started with 3 investments of 0.5. I want not wake up in the middle of the night for only 0.05 or something like that, therefore i started with 0.5. To not loose them, i had to pay again and again a increasing value. This works, until the script failed and didn't pay me. Now you can "buy" these investments for 50%, if you want.
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Re: Nine9.ninja - [PonziGame] ★ 380+ BTC Input ★ Altcoins ► Automated ► 125% Return
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bufa
on 20/04/2015, 05:24:31 UTC
I will not support such a scam, therefore i am out.
I lost a lot of money and will not invest again.
Also my still open investments will expire:

I somebody want to have a 50% discount to enter this game, feel free to push these (or some of these) investment.
I will pay back 50% of my payment back to you!
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Re: Nine9.ninja - [PonziGame] ★ 380+ BTC Input ★ Altcoins ► Automated ► 125% Return
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bufa
on 20/04/2015, 05:17:44 UTC
as i already said: this concept is genious!!
i't can't collapse. it only can increase and decrease in speed (the more unpaid = the slower).
Yes correct, the concept is genious. But if you get scammed because of scripting errors and the admin doesn't care about this and didn't recoup the damage created by his wrong script, then it makes no fun to play. :-(
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Re: Nine9.ninja - [PonziGame] ★ 380+ BTC Input ★ Altcoins ► Automated ► 125% Return
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bufa
on 19/04/2015, 10:46:56 UTC
Tx id of the 0.5053553 BTC investment :
https://blockchain.info/en/tx/bb6caf1cde8b9eb3a9c9995e202ea7d083382a26083e15e8f5afeeb87d49983d

it was confirmed on  2015-04-11 23:29:04, so 99 hours from that time would have been 2015-04-16 02:29:03

Tx id of the 0.59017666 BTC transaction to get his payment out (as shown in the image above)
https://blockchain.info/tx/ffc048a9ede74e06635cd11b8878f662fd8630b0605df6b0eba4d02b5b93c18a

Confirmed on 2015-04-16 02:05:49 so yes, he did made a deposit to save himself before his previous investment got expired

The problem is, how to make sure that the bank has enough balance to pay him at that time ?
The bank HAD enough balance at this time, you can see this on my screenshot. It was "only" a problem with the script, so i got not paid and lost my money. The deposits are getting lower and lower. I can understand, nobody will invest, if the script is buggy and nobody feels really resposible to cover this damage :-(
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Re: Nine9.ninja - [PonziGame] ★ 380+ BTC Input ★ Altcoins ► Automated ► 125% Return
by
bufa
on 18/04/2015, 11:11:23 UTC
The bitcoin reference client handles extra digits, I've not looked at what it does but it doesn't throw even a warning.  It's hard to think this is a bitcoin problem as it's unlikely to be bitcoin software running the script that determines when to send payments.

I really don't understand the problem, though at one point I thought it was simple Machine Epsilon.  However now I can't find the equation that was running into trouble.

Correct, there was a discussion about the rounding problem. But only a rounding problem for 1 satoshi. So, as mentioned before, i spent a extra satoshi in my deposit. It cannot be the correct solution, that i (we) pays for your script errors. It should be very easy to fix a simply rounding error. You can see in my screenshot, that my deposit still was "overpaid", but your script doesn't start the payment. I can accept a rounding error, if i see something like "Next payout 0.12345678 / 0.12345678". Then there could be a rounding problem and in your calculation you needs 0.123456781. I tried to compensate this with my overpayment, but why ever, your script failed. Now i lost my payment of about 130$. And this is not okay!

Never Mind that you were way short of making a payout if this problem didn't exist.

If there is to be payouts made as if this issue did not exist it would be to 1Excalibur and then no payout for the other deposit due to lack of funds.

This is correct information, thanks for giving input again.

Hey, this is not correct. Look again to the screenshot
It was MY DEPOSIT witch should be paid with 0,65716189 and was still overpüaid by MY next deposit.

I really know, that this is a game and has high risk. I would never complain, if i was to late, to stupid, or only had no luck.
But it is really not okay, to lost a lot of money, if confide in the rules and then the script failed.
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Re: Nine9.ninja - [PonziGame] ★ 380+ BTC Input ★ Altcoins ► Automated ► 125% Return
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bufa
on 18/04/2015, 05:54:28 UTC
Thanks for your answer N9_Ninja and thanks that you acknowledge, that it was a error of your script and not a failure from my side.
Also thanks for readding my deposit. But this doesn't really help.
I am missing not the entry in the list for 0,5053553, but my payment of 0,631694125. For this one paid 0,65675184, to push it trough.
As Cheako explained several times, a entry has not a real value, except YOU will assure, that it's getting paid in 99 hours. Can you and will you?
Otherwise it is nearly worthless.

The problem was due to a float issue which had been mentioned previously multiple times (was off by 1 satoshi).

The reason why your payment didn't go through was because 0.50535530 * 125% leaves an extra remainder
(9th and 10th digit) that Bitcoin obviously does not support although the math still tries to include this.

It is a problem and I have said before the major update I am working on, these types of errors will be non existent.

The aim of the game was never to pay yourself out nor put in exact sums to pay yourself out leaving 0 behind,
although this became the norm very quickly.

This error has happened to a few players so it would be unfair to promise payment or similar, I believe the fairest
action would be what has already been done, allowing the payment to run, essentially another 99 hours.

Thanks for playing!
Correct, there was a discussion about the rounding problem. But only a rounding problem for 1 satoshi. So, as mentioned before, i spent a extra satoshi in my deposit. It cannot be the correct solution, that i (we) pays for your script errors. It should be very eary to fix a simply rounding error. You can see in my screenshot, that my deposit still was "overpaid", but your script doesn't start the payment. I can accept a rounding error, if i see something like "Next payout 0.12345678 / 0.12345678". Then there could be a rounding problem and in your calculation you needs 0.123456781. I tried to compensate this with my overpayment, but why ever, your script failed. Now i lost my payment of about 130$. And this is not okay!
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Re: Nine9.ninja - [PonziGame] ★ 380+ BTC Input ★ Altcoins ► Automated ► 125% Return
by
bufa
on 17/04/2015, 17:35:23 UTC
Hi OP,

here we have again the problem with the payment.
It could be not because of rounding problems, i paid 1 satoshi more, than needed, to avoid this problem:

Hopefully, the next confirmation is early enough ...
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Shit, now my deposit of 0.5053553 (expected payment 0.631694) is expired (because of a error in your script?).
@N9_Ninja: Could you please fix this and send me my money!
Hi Admin, could you please check and fix this issue. I lost a lot of money because of this error :-(
Hi N9_Ninja, what is about my deposit???
Helllllllooooooooo? Did you run away now?HuhHuh

Hi, I am here just been very busy the whole week, I have just looked through the logs and I can see that
the deposit amount should of been enough to cover that payment based on website appearance.

I can't just put it to the front of the queue as this would not be fair on other users, so I have decided to
re-enter this transaction manually for you with it's 99 hours countdown starting as soon as it has been
added.

Thanks for playing!
Thanks for your answer N9_Ninja and thanks that you acknowledge, that it was a error of your script and not a failure from my side.
Also thanks for readding my deposit. But this doesn't really help.
I am missing not the entry in the list for 0,5053553, but my payment of 0,631694125. For this one paid 0,65675184, to push it trough.
As Cheako explained several times, a entry has not a real value, except YOU will assure, that it's getting paid in 99 hours. Can you and will you?
Otherwise it is nearly worthless.
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Re: Nine9.ninja - [PonziGame] ★ 380+ BTC Input ★ Altcoins ► Automated ► 125% Return
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bufa
on 17/04/2015, 09:34:09 UTC
Hi OP,

here we have again the problem with the payment.
It could be not because of rounding problems, i paid 1 satoshi more, than needed, to avoid this problem:

Hopefully, the next confirmation is early enough ...
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Shit, now my deposit of 0.5053553 (expected payment 0.631694) is expired (because of a error in your script?).
@N9_Ninja: Could you please fix this and send me my money!
Hi Admin, could you please check and fix this issue. I lost a lot of money because of this error :-(
Hi N9_Ninja, what is about my deposit???
Helllllllooooooooo? Did you run away now?HuhHuh
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Re: Nine9.ninja - [PonziGame] ★ 380+ BTC Input ★ Altcoins ► Automated ► 125% Return
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bufa
on 17/04/2015, 05:18:57 UTC
Hi OP,

here we have again the problem with the payment.
It could be not because of rounding problems, i paid 1 satoshi more, than needed, to avoid this problem:

Hopefully, the next confirmation is early enough ...
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Shit, now my deposit of 0.5053553 (expected payment 0.631694) is expired (because of a error in your script?).
@N9_Ninja: Could you please fix this and send me my money!
Hi Admin, could you please check and fix this issue. I lost a lot of money because of this error :-(
Hi N9_Ninja, what is about my deposit???
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Re: Nine9.ninja - [PonziGame] ★ 380+ BTC Input ★ Altcoins ► Automated ► 125% Return
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bufa
on 16/04/2015, 11:36:21 UTC
Shit, now my deposit of 0.5053553 (expected payment 0.631694) is expired (because of a error in your script?).
@N9_Ninja: Could you please fix this and send me my money!

Too, erm emm no first bede9f31caf1418d27c9c16c71a29fe103da5b93b11f36e1392ef892f1500875
Wouldn't that make the 0.631694 payment short?
No, this one and also the next one from 1Mwkc where still expired, when i did my deposits.
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Re: Nine9.ninja - [PonziGame] ★ 380+ BTC Input ★ Altcoins ► Automated ► 125% Return
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bufa
on 16/04/2015, 07:53:55 UTC
Hi OP,

here we have again the problem with the payment.
It could be not because of rounding problems, i paid 1 satoshi more, than needed, to avoid this problem:

Hopefully, the next confirmation is early enough ...
-----------
Shit, now my deposit of 0.5053553 (expected payment 0.631694) is expired (because of a error in your script?).
@N9_Ninja: Could you please fix this and send me my money!
Hi Admin, could you please check and fix this issue. I lost a lot of money because of this error :-(
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Re: Nine9.ninja - [PonziGame] ★ 380+ BTC Input ★ Altcoins ► Automated ► 125% Return
by
bufa
on 16/04/2015, 02:32:59 UTC
Shit, now my deposit of 0.5053553 (expected payment 0.631694) is expired (because of a error in your script?).
@N9_Ninja: Could you please fix this and send me my money!
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Re: Nine9.ninja - [PonziGame] ★ 380+ BTC Input ★ Altcoins ► Automated ► 125% Return
by
bufa
on 16/04/2015, 02:19:48 UTC
Hi OP,

here we have again the problem with the payment.
It could be not because of rounding problems, i paid 1 satoshi more, than needed, to avoid this problem:

Hopefully, the next confirmation is early enough ...