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Boils down to the person making the trades and who owns the assets. If you want to save on taxes, then put a structure in place that is more tax efficient. That person does the trades - pays its taxes, then pays you your salary (on which you pay your taxes).
Hi Everyone,
As some of you may know, I help my clients with gaming licenses, white label casinos, formations, banking, game certification etc. We have been around since 2006 and have a number of crypto related betting and RNG casinos under license. We are essentially service providers to gambling companies as apposed to being operators.
Over the last number of years we have been working on an RGS/PAM system (Remote Gaming System / Player Account Management system) and we have finally completed our application and built our first white label casino using the software.
Our goal now is to test our software, our game providers, and the various third party vendor products that we use. Ultimately, this product is what we will be licensing to end users as a white label, turn key casino under a Curacao license.
Our software is crypto centric, but we also offer fiat payment options as well.
Our affiliate programme is managed and run using PostAffiliate Pro (although it can use Income Access and any number of third party affiliate programmes out there). Games are provided directly or through aggregators and at last count we have over 1500 games on offer.
My personal favourite game is a type of Crash Game called "Ho Ho Hoddle" (and no it is not about strippers). Hit the "crash" tab on this page to play the game: https://fuzebet.com/all-games/
Our affiliate programme offers a commission starting at 15% and going up to 40% (Commissions paid in BTC). You can sign up to the programme here: https://fuzebet.com/affiliates/
If you have any questions in terms of your own BTC white label casino, feel free to ask me anything in this thread.
Cheers!
As some of you may know, I help my clients with gaming licenses, white label casinos, formations, banking, game certification etc. We have been around since 2006 and have a number of crypto related betting and RNG casinos under license. We are essentially service providers to gambling companies as apposed to being operators.
Over the last number of years we have been working on an RGS/PAM system (Remote Gaming System / Player Account Management system) and we have finally completed our application and built our first white label casino using the software.
Our goal now is to test our software, our game providers, and the various third party vendor products that we use. Ultimately, this product is what we will be licensing to end users as a white label, turn key casino under a Curacao license.
Our software is crypto centric, but we also offer fiat payment options as well.
Our affiliate programme is managed and run using PostAffiliate Pro (although it can use Income Access and any number of third party affiliate programmes out there). Games are provided directly or through aggregators and at last count we have over 1500 games on offer.
My personal favourite game is a type of Crash Game called "Ho Ho Hoddle" (and no it is not about strippers). Hit the "crash" tab on this page to play the game: https://fuzebet.com/all-games/
Our affiliate programme offers a commission starting at 15% and going up to 40% (Commissions paid in BTC). You can sign up to the programme here: https://fuzebet.com/affiliates/
If you have any questions in terms of your own BTC white label casino, feel free to ask me anything in this thread.
Cheers!
Re: Looking to license Dice, Crash and other Crypto styled games
Thank you for the feedback,
We have a number of BitcoinTalk operators and developers who have been in contact and we are exploring opportunities.
Quite amazed at some of the talent on this forum.
We have a number of BitcoinTalk operators and developers who have been in contact and we are exploring opportunities.
Quite amazed at some of the talent on this forum.
⭐ Merited by wwzsocki (1)
I would not say this is a clear indication of a scam.
To understand why the account balance updated before the "spins took place" you need to understand how games are built and work.
There are two sides to every game:
1. The server side, this is where the game takes place using its RNG mechanism.
2. The client-side, the pretty picture running in the user's browser. This will "play" the outcome of the game as determined by the server mechanics.
So for a normal game, you will click a button, this action calls the server, the server runs the game, and returns the result to the UI. The UI then plays the outcome of the game (as a slot machine, crash game, scratch card... whatever).
By the time the game plays the UI to the user, the outcome has been determined. In some games, you will notice that your account balance goes up when the game loads.
In this case, I would assume that the game and its bonus spins are determined on the first call.
1. IsWin(1, 100) - user picked 5
2. runBonus(1, 100) - random number selected 52
3. creditWin()
4. returnDataToUI()
5. UI runs the data
Once the data is returned to the UI, the user plays the game not knowing that the result has already been determined.
There are other ways to write games like this and that would be to give the user "free spin credits". The code may look something like this:
1. IsWin(1, 100) - user picked 5
2. runBonus(1, 100) - random number selected 52
3. creditWin(), creditBonusCredits()
4. returnDataToUI()
5. UI runs the data
At this point, the user now has "bonus credits" which can be used to run a separate game...
In most cases an all in one game is preferred since managing credits etc. becomes a chore.
To understand why the account balance updated before the "spins took place" you need to understand how games are built and work.
There are two sides to every game:
1. The server side, this is where the game takes place using its RNG mechanism.
2. The client-side, the pretty picture running in the user's browser. This will "play" the outcome of the game as determined by the server mechanics.
So for a normal game, you will click a button, this action calls the server, the server runs the game, and returns the result to the UI. The UI then plays the outcome of the game (as a slot machine, crash game, scratch card... whatever).
By the time the game plays the UI to the user, the outcome has been determined. In some games, you will notice that your account balance goes up when the game loads.
In this case, I would assume that the game and its bonus spins are determined on the first call.
1. IsWin(1, 100) - user picked 5
2. runBonus(1, 100) - random number selected 52
3. creditWin()
4. returnDataToUI()
5. UI runs the data
Once the data is returned to the UI, the user plays the game not knowing that the result has already been determined.
There are other ways to write games like this and that would be to give the user "free spin credits". The code may look something like this:
1. IsWin(1, 100) - user picked 5
2. runBonus(1, 100) - random number selected 52
3. creditWin(), creditBonusCredits()
4. returnDataToUI()
5. UI runs the data
At this point, the user now has "bonus credits" which can be used to run a separate game...
In most cases an all in one game is preferred since managing credits etc. becomes a chore.
Re: Gamblingtec Signature Campaign | Get BTC or your own casino brand
Yes, that will better to create a separate signature campaign so you can count each participant posts and I think that will not make you confuse. I still prefer to apply with BTC payment if there is a free slot.
Removed Payment Option 2, this will be run as a separate campaign.
We are accepting no further signups.
Participants for week 2 have been paid, please see if you have made it to week 3.
Re: Gamblingtec Signature Campaign | Get BTC or your own casino brand
I have been told I have not been clear enough about Payment option 2.
The site we are offering is a multi-tenant, "lottery first" website. Its main purpose is to sell "real world" lottery tickets. Over time this will become more dynamic and our users will be able to have more control over their sites. This depends on interest and a number of other factors.
Generally, we will sell these sites with fixed fees and a revenue share, so if you take the time to earn a site, you have no obligation to pay the fixed fee part. Which is pretty cool considering people pay a lot of money to maintain and run such sites and to earn 70% of the revenue is pretty awesome! In addition to that, you can sign up sub-affiliates to your site too.
Do note that paid clients have a choice to use our multi-tenant solution or their own solution on their own hosting. This offer is for the multi-tenant solution.
Current games on the site:
The sites at the moment have a lottery, scratch cards, slots, blackjack, roulette, roulette and a variety of video poker games.
Future games:
We are busy working with developers who have produced a live poker game. This is integrated into our sandbox and will be live in the near future.
Crash games
We have been looking to license some crash and dice games (fiat version) and once we find a suitable partner for the platform, these will be added too.
So if you take the time to earn a site by posting 500 quality links, it could have a very nice long term return.
It may be better to start a separate signature campaign for this, what do you think?
The site we are offering is a multi-tenant, "lottery first" website. Its main purpose is to sell "real world" lottery tickets. Over time this will become more dynamic and our users will be able to have more control over their sites. This depends on interest and a number of other factors.
Generally, we will sell these sites with fixed fees and a revenue share, so if you take the time to earn a site, you have no obligation to pay the fixed fee part. Which is pretty cool considering people pay a lot of money to maintain and run such sites and to earn 70% of the revenue is pretty awesome! In addition to that, you can sign up sub-affiliates to your site too.
Do note that paid clients have a choice to use our multi-tenant solution or their own solution on their own hosting. This offer is for the multi-tenant solution.
Current games on the site:
The sites at the moment have a lottery, scratch cards, slots, blackjack, roulette, roulette and a variety of video poker games.
Future games:
We are busy working with developers who have produced a live poker game. This is integrated into our sandbox and will be live in the near future.
Crash games
We have been looking to license some crash and dice games (fiat version) and once we find a suitable partner for the platform, these will be added too.
So if you take the time to earn a site by posting 500 quality links, it could have a very nice long term return.
It may be better to start a separate signature campaign for this, what do you think?
Re: Looking to license Dice, Crash and other Crypto styled games
You should be more convincing if you want your readers to take your seriously. You provided no proof you are actually a trusted licensing company. So how do you expect people to trust this?
go onto the chamber of commerce, all our information is there for the world to see.
Re: Gamblingtec Signature Campaign | Get BTC or your own casino brand
What I understand is that he offered someone to open a lottery website from him like script or API thing. with our own domain.
maybe more like a business type franchise? and it looks suspicious for me. CMIIW
maybe more like a business type franchise? and it looks suspicious for me. CMIIW
If you scroll up this thread, you will see that Okala was given 10 EUR to spend on the lottery. His purchase procured real lottery tickets which were scanned and posted back to the forum. This is what we are offering as payment option 2. A business for you to sell real lottery tickets under your own brand.
Re: Looking to license Dice, Crash and other Crypto styled games
That's a bit hard to do, since you are essentially a new account and there's no reason anyone would trust your "licence".
And is there even a need for a licence in the space? Trustworthy exchanges will have their calculation code open for everyone, then knowledgeable people will go through the code for free and post about it in forums.
If something bad is found, it'll circulate the internet quickly, a customer only needs to search for it.
And is there even a need for a licence in the space? Trustworthy exchanges will have their calculation code open for everyone, then knowledgeable people will go through the code for free and post about it in forums.
If something bad is found, it'll circulate the internet quickly, a customer only needs to search for it.
Essentially what we do is work with game developers who have interesting games. We license the games (get permission to use them under contract) and then offer those games to end users under a gambling license.
A gambling license is a joke. It is as good as the concept of democracy in Sudan. Every reputed gambling service on this forum is trustworthy because of the way they function and their reputation, not because of their gambling license provider. A developer selling the game to the operator or you selling it to them wouldn't make any difference. As a developer, I prefer selling the games I've developed to the operator directly.
Licensing, in this case, refers to permission to use a game, such as licensing devans' bustabit code and running your own bustabit. It has nothing to do with any Curaco/random country licenses.
It is permission to use the game under contract and to offer those games under an actual gambling license to operators as a package.
A gambling license is a joke. It is as good as the concept of democracy in Sudan. Every reputed gambling service on this forum is trustworthy because of the way they function and their reputation, not because of their gambling license provider. A developer selling the game to the operator or you selling it to them wouldn't make any difference. As a developer, I prefer selling the games I've developed to the operator directly.
I guess you need to decide what works for you.
Some of our clients have families that they care about and operating under a licensed entity allows them to sleep at night.
Unfortunately, government agencies are not interested in whether or not your games are "trustworthy or not", they want to regulate the market which means they want to tell you, what you can or can not do. So if you are found to be offering your games to unlicensed entities, it could be seen as "aiding and abetting".
Re: Gamblingtec Signature Campaign | Get BTC or your own casino brand
Hi Everyone,
The first week's payments have been made.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c04Ug2C6tFRMWNCmpVB_NBb38Yh0NFe7dmUCFB1r0Sc/edit#gid=0
Would the following participants please provide a non-segwit address:
1. angel55
2. JeromeTash
3. TravelMug
Afraid the wallet we are using can not make a payment to the above addresses...
Please would the following members confirm their btc addresses on the spread sheet:
1. BitcoinTurk
2. LUCKMCFLY
Cheers
The first week's payments have been made.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c04Ug2C6tFRMWNCmpVB_NBb38Yh0NFe7dmUCFB1r0Sc/edit#gid=0
Would the following participants please provide a non-segwit address:
1. angel55
2. JeromeTash
3. TravelMug
Afraid the wallet we are using can not make a payment to the above addresses...
Please would the following members confirm their btc addresses on the spread sheet:
1. BitcoinTurk
2. LUCKMCFLY
Cheers
Re: Gamblingtec Signature Campaign | Get BTC or your own casino brand
Sad to see that my name was not even put on the applicant's list. Is this because I raised concerns over your choice of escrow?
There are many applicants but he only picked those who are he thinks are qualified, but he never mentions if there will be a second round of applications, but there was no mentioned of limited applicants so you can reapply again and hope that you get accepted the next round.
He probably chooses those who mostly post on gambling section. Its where he must advertise given the fact that he is promoting casinos and casino hosting. The campaign is paying fix price per post though so if the price of BTC soar high, you still will get same amount in USD. Don't bother so much not getting accepted in the campaign.
@Quickseller who's the escrow now?
And if the price of BTC plummets, we still pay the same. Swings and roundabouts, as they say.
The price is down and just like you said, you will pay the same amount. Looks like you have seen this happen before.
I'm sure you are a man who will honor your words. Monday is the payday for you guys. It would be cool to see price goes up by wednesday.
Yes, I have been around the block a few times.
Re: Gamblingtec Signature Campaign | Get BTC or your own casino brand
OP you never explained Payment Option 2 in details despite many members asked for this.
Please provide all detailed information about this payment option because is important to know exactly for what one will get paid.
As you see there is nobody interested in this payment and the reason is a lack of information. Additionally, this should be added in the OP.
What do you mean a business you can make a living with? For 500 posts? Explain, please.
Please provide all detailed information about this payment option because is important to know exactly for what one will get paid.
As you see there is nobody interested in this payment and the reason is a lack of information. Additionally, this should be added in the OP.
...You get a lottery brand to sell real-world lottery tickets through. It is basically a business you would be able to promote and make a good living through...
What do you mean a business you can make a living with? For 500 posts? Explain, please.
My appologies:
"This is a lottery website like www.btc-lotto.net but on your own domain name. You will not pay any fees for the brand and you will earn a 70% revenue share on its income. Any level can enter and there are no time limits. Just tell us you are entering for this payment option and we will add you to the list. You are responsible for letting us know once you have 500 posts under your belt!"
you do own a hosting curacao hosting company, are the option 2 takers going to have free hosting as well?
The offer is for our lotto sites which use a multi-tenant system. Just point your domain to us, no hosting involved.
Looking to license Dice, Crash and other Crypto styled games
Hi All,
I am looking to license some games from developers.
If you can direct me to anyone who has created:
1. Dice
2. Crash
3. and similar games
Essentially we license games from developers and offer these on, under a relevant gambling license, to operators and content partners. We have plenty of fiat casino suppliers, not many in the crypto space.
Many thanks!
I am looking to license some games from developers.
If you can direct me to anyone who has created:
1. Dice
2. Crash
3. and similar games
Essentially we license games from developers and offer these on, under a relevant gambling license, to operators and content partners. We have plenty of fiat casino suppliers, not many in the crypto space.
Many thanks!
Re: Gamblingtec Signature Campaign | Get BTC or your own casino brand
OP you never explained Payment Option 2 in details despite many members asked for this.
Please provide all detailed information about this payment option because is important to know exactly for what one will get paid.
As you see there is nobody interested in this payment and the reason is a lack of information. Additionally, this should be added in the OP.
What do you mean a business you can make a living with? For 500 posts? Explain, please.
Please provide all detailed information about this payment option because is important to know exactly for what one will get paid.
As you see there is nobody interested in this payment and the reason is a lack of information. Additionally, this should be added in the OP.
...You get a lottery brand to sell real-world lottery tickets through. It is basically a business you would be able to promote and make a good living through...
What do you mean a business you can make a living with? For 500 posts? Explain, please.
My appologies:
"This is a lottery website like www.btc-lotto.net but on your own domain name. You will not pay any fees for the brand and you will earn a 70% revenue share on its income. Any level can enter and there are no time limits. Just tell us you are entering for this payment option and we will add you to the list. You are responsible for letting us know once you have 500 posts under your belt!"
Re: Gamblingtec Signature Campaign | Get BTC or your own casino brand
⭐ Merited by okala (1)
Congratulations to @okala
You won the secret race game we were hosting yesterday and you won $10 USD! This has been applied to your account, you can view the transaction here: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/1a7585b5593bb5582b540c4c5adabbf0ea1f7fe447f25ff485456e43e620bf3a
But that is not all... Okala has a chance to enter all the participants, of this weeks signature campaign, into the Powerball lottery game, with a current jackpot of $180 Million USD!
This is what Okala needs to do:
1. Go to our bitcoin lottery site: https://www.btc-lotto.net/account
2. Click on "general account"
3. Register a new account
4. PM me the email address you used
I will credit your account with 10 EUR
Once credited, you will need to:
1. Visit this page: https://www.btc-lotto.net/buy-ticket/87c44811-8ad3-4ce6-bf99-db54bff308bd
2. Select 3 tickets, hit the quick pick or enter your lucky numbers
3. Go to the basket
4. Hit pay
5. Select from balance (10 EUR)
6. Order complete
Once complete, you will need to wait an hour or two for your ticket scans to be uploaded to your account. Once they are uploaded, take a screenshot of them and post them back to this forum as proof of purchase.
The winnings from your numbers on the Wednesdays Powerball draw (if any) will be divided between the participants & manager (sadly not me).
Good luck and have fun!
NB: The ticket offer is limited to the Powerball game on the 10th July, so don't miss out!
PS: Feel free to create your own account too!
You won the secret race game we were hosting yesterday and you won $10 USD! This has been applied to your account, you can view the transaction here: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/1a7585b5593bb5582b540c4c5adabbf0ea1f7fe447f25ff485456e43e620bf3a
But that is not all... Okala has a chance to enter all the participants, of this weeks signature campaign, into the Powerball lottery game, with a current jackpot of $180 Million USD!
This is what Okala needs to do:
1. Go to our bitcoin lottery site: https://www.btc-lotto.net/account
2. Click on "general account"
3. Register a new account
4. PM me the email address you used
I will credit your account with 10 EUR
Once credited, you will need to:
1. Visit this page: https://www.btc-lotto.net/buy-ticket/87c44811-8ad3-4ce6-bf99-db54bff308bd
2. Select 3 tickets, hit the quick pick or enter your lucky numbers
3. Go to the basket
4. Hit pay
5. Select from balance (10 EUR)
6. Order complete
Once complete, you will need to wait an hour or two for your ticket scans to be uploaded to your account. Once they are uploaded, take a screenshot of them and post them back to this forum as proof of purchase.
The winnings from your numbers on the Wednesdays Powerball draw (if any) will be divided between the participants & manager (sadly not me).
Good luck and have fun!
NB: The ticket offer is limited to the Powerball game on the 10th July, so don't miss out!
PS: Feel free to create your own account too!