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Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources]
Hey guys, what if i have a million euros lying around. And i wanted to spend it all on Verge. How would one go about that?
Buy into BTC/ETH/LTC at coinbase (For example)
there might be some other 'direct' exchanges now for other units. (heard rumor of an xvg one actually, but not confirming that one)
GL, and careful. (dont trust anyone else, but yourself)
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LOL that's horrible advice! If you really do have a mil EUR, stay the fuck off any exchanges with it. Trade OTC with sellers in person so you wouldn't move the price or get frozen in KYC hell by Coinbase or whatever shitty exchange...
Re: ⚒ Syscoin-Blockmarket 3.0-World 1st Decentralized Marketplace/Masternodes/Assets
Well it seems VERY likely that Binance users had API keys compromised - that's why Binance suspended all active API keys and halted trading for 6 hours.
Why the price of SYS went to 96 BTC is up in the air. Likely a large group of trading bots, perhaps trading with the compromised API keys (other people's money).
Block 87670 is quite odd. Somebody had access to at least 45 million SYS to create that block. Of course that is possible if they hacked Binance... Nonetheless with these types of hacks, usually the altcoin is just the intermediary currency, the hackers are looking to withdraw BTC in the end. So they pump SYS (or whatever coin) with hacked accounts, then withdraw the BTC.
Just some thoughts. We should know more soon.
Why the price of SYS went to 96 BTC is up in the air. Likely a large group of trading bots, perhaps trading with the compromised API keys (other people's money).
Block 87670 is quite odd. Somebody had access to at least 45 million SYS to create that block. Of course that is possible if they hacked Binance... Nonetheless with these types of hacks, usually the altcoin is just the intermediary currency, the hackers are looking to withdraw BTC in the end. So they pump SYS (or whatever coin) with hacked accounts, then withdraw the BTC.
Just some thoughts. We should know more soon.
Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees
People don't like bitcoin cash because no one likes backstabbers. If bitcoin cash was run by a decent person with high morals and stability it would have already done the flippening, and we would be talking about real virtual currency.
The thing is everyone of us loved bitcoin. We used it and show in it a future currency. This probably won't happen as devs wanted the easy way of making money, lost vision and started talking about "store of value" bs.
Still there is a correct way to respond and there is a wrong way. And what happened in November was totally the wrong way and this will affect bitcoin cash for decades.
The thing is everyone of us loved bitcoin. We used it and show in it a future currency. This probably won't happen as devs wanted the easy way of making money, lost vision and started talking about "store of value" bs.
Still there is a correct way to respond and there is a wrong way. And what happened in November was totally the wrong way and this will affect bitcoin cash for decades.
You're funny, I suppose you think that Bitcoin Kore and Blockstream are run by "a decent person with high morals and stability"? You need to think about what this means - a coin is not "run by a person", it's code that is executed by thousands of people working together.
BTC/Kore/Blockstream, they were only able to fuck up the BTC code, and then spend almost a year convincing people to run that shitty code, using bribes, propaganda, and backstabbing backroom deals. This won't happen with BCH because the lies have been disproven. It's merely a matter of time before the markets flip...
Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees
Feel free to find out how e.g. memo or blockpress are using the new op codes.
More is coming for SBI exchange or colored coins on BCH and their atomic swaps...
We are at there very start of crating more usability / programmability to the only scalable distributed non-security coin on the planet with true on-chain safety.
More is coming for SBI exchange or colored coins on BCH and their atomic swaps...
We are at there very start of crating more usability / programmability to the only scalable distributed non-security coin on the planet with true on-chain safety.
i feel like bcash just tries to rehash old btc features no one will ever use for anything in the real world =) ha
Yeah, like significantly lower fees and faster transactions.
doge is better for this *
lol Youre a 0/10
i bet doge is faster and lower fees
~thats the best you got?Ill take that bet. I think youre confused with the typical argument that Bitcoin Cash has less daily transactions then Dogecoin. (Measured on 1 day sometime recently). But despite 4 different news sources publishing such news, this argument fails to acknowledge the value transferred relative to fiat value. Its really just headlnes for those who are easily mislead. Also, there are many Doge faucets that spit out doge instantly for anyone to suck on along with an endless supply that keeps pumping out daily. Hence the high amount of Dogecoin transactions per day. Youre trust rating is a -4 so 0/10 isnt that bad. Ill stop going after the bait.
+1, this Dogecoin shilling is getting pathetic. At first it was "all coins other than BTC are shit", now it's "All coins other than BCH are good". Goal[posts keep moving but the technology stays the same. BCH is usable and useful, BTC is not. DOGE is a ridiculous intermediary that won't last. But while Lightning doesn't work for another 18 months, Kore fanbois can use DOGE and not feel like "traitors"...
Re: ⚒ Syscoin;Added on BINANCE! World 1st Decentralized Marketplace/Masternodes:4/30
So, finally I got my coins out of Poloniex. I have absolutely no doubt that this would not have happened if those in the same situation as myself hadn't started to hound both Poloniex, Blockchain Inc & the Syscoin "team" to get it sorted or else. I've informed my solicitor & no further action will be taken, but this whole affair has left a very nasty after taste, especially considering the attitude of some people claiming to be the SCMT & sebastian1234 of Blockchain Foundry Inc himself, who's secrecy & refusal to answer basic questions has left me in considerable doubt about this whole project.
I've said all along that the idea & devs are good & have been aware of sidhujag & his work since the Devcoin days, which was my main reason for investing in Syscoin, but I'm more than a little concerned about the attitude of the people surrounding him & the use of noob/fake accounts by certain individuals to insult Syscoin users who's crime was to ask the wrong kind of questions.
I've now added a couple of masternodes & will play it by ear - I hope my faith in this project is isn't misguided.
You have stated your point and we have answered you several times but you consistently remove my responses from your quotes, leaving only your complaints.
I understand the frustration you have had with Poloniex and we also wanted the wallet updated as soon as possible.
Poloniex is a pile of sh*t, everybody knows this. It's not the fault of the Syscoin team. However, the Syscoin team pushed out a horrible update to the code, which created an upgrade nightmare. It took me 2 days of dicking around to get the blockchain up to date and the wallet balance recognized. It was truly awful having that sinking feeling of "well I guess my coins are gone". Team, please don't ever do this again!
Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources]
today is our last day of crowdfunding. if we dont break 75mill $XVG, we don't get the major partnership.
guys, this could be the largest adoption of an altcoin ever, and Verge has the opportunity to explode from this!
https://vergecurrency.com/donate
we HAVE to make this happen!
guys, this could be the largest adoption of an altcoin ever, and Verge has the opportunity to explode from this!
https://vergecurrency.com/donate
we HAVE to make this happen!
This is all rather silly, we contribute 75 mil coins and THEN we find out what the prize is inside the box?
I mean it sounds like little girls telling secrets or something... this is not a legitimate way of raising funds.
In order for me to invest in something I need to examine what I am investing in!
I'll should be surprised if the big donators did not know what they invest in so calm down. One donator of 66.500.000 coins, another one around 10 millions coins, how much did you say you donate?
Peace
OK fine, if the people who invested know what this big secret deal is, why did they have to go begging on twitter etc. for donations? Do a deal with some investors and THEN announce it to the community.
I donated ZERO because I have no idea WTH these guys are hyping. I hold the coin, which is an investment in this coin's future.
Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees
Meanwhile in the real world
https://youtu.be/ckYGyhbovrg
I understand this may be a bit difficult for you to grasp but it's not that hard
Dude, now you're shilling for patented Blockstream technology?! You really should ask to get paid if you're not - at this point you're one of the few fans Blockstream has left!
Didn't you hear that another key dev at BS quit today? Rats leaving a sinking ship...
Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees
Maybe it's time to sell my Bitcoin Cash, at a loss ?
Bitcoins SegWit Alone is Outnumbering All Bitcoin Cash Transactions.
SegWit transaction capacity increase compared to Bitcoin Cash Since the launch of Bitcoin Cash in August 2017, around 6.1 million SegWit transactions have taken place, 20.1% more than the cumulative number of Bitcoin Cash transactions in the period.
http://bitcoinist.com/segwit-outnumber-bitcoin-cash-transactions/
Bitcoins SegWit Alone is Outnumbering All Bitcoin Cash Transactions.
SegWit transaction capacity increase compared to Bitcoin Cash Since the launch of Bitcoin Cash in August 2017, around 6.1 million SegWit transactions have taken place, 20.1% more than the cumulative number of Bitcoin Cash transactions in the period.
http://bitcoinist.com/segwit-outnumber-bitcoin-cash-transactions/
Same thing I heard from the Core minions when the BCH price was $300.
People thinking they are so smart moving all of their coins to magic Segwit addresses fail to realize that they will miss out on any further Bitcoin Kore forked coin airdrops... and just wait until the mempool starts filling up again. Segwit won't make a bit of difference.
We waited 18 months 3 times, for Lightning. And sure enough, it sucks!
I suppose you think the number of BCH transactions will go down and BTC transactions will increase? Pretty much the opposite of what is happening right now...
Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources]
today is our last day of crowdfunding. if we dont break 75mill $XVG, we don't get the major partnership.
guys, this could be the largest adoption of an altcoin ever, and Verge has the opportunity to explode from this!
https://vergecurrency.com/donate
we HAVE to make this happen!
guys, this could be the largest adoption of an altcoin ever, and Verge has the opportunity to explode from this!
https://vergecurrency.com/donate
we HAVE to make this happen!
This is all rather silly, we contribute 75 mil coins and THEN we find out what the prize is inside the box?
I mean it sounds like little girls telling secrets or something... this is not a legitimate way of raising funds.
In order for me to invest in something I need to examine what I am investing in!
Re: ⚒ Syscoin -$3 Million 1st round financing; World 1st Decentralized Marketplace!
Syscoin 3.0 Update
On March 7, the SEC released its Statement on Potentially Unlawful Online Platforms for Trading Digital Assets. In reference to online cryptocurrency exchanges, part of the statement reads: A number of these platforms provide a mechanism for trading assets that meet the definition of a security under the federal securities laws. This has important implications for many blockchain companies such as Blockchain Foundry and cryptocurrency projects like Syscoin, who strive to meet rapidly changing compliance standards.
Over the past several months, Blockchain Foundry has been working with our legal team to define and strengthen our view that Syscoin is not a security. Given the recent SEC update, this analysis is more important than ever, especially as some trading platforms have been delisting tokens that have not made an effort to take compliance seriously.
On March 7, the SEC released its Statement on Potentially Unlawful Online Platforms for Trading Digital Assets. In reference to online cryptocurrency exchanges, part of the statement reads: A number of these platforms provide a mechanism for trading assets that meet the definition of a security under the federal securities laws. This has important implications for many blockchain companies such as Blockchain Foundry and cryptocurrency projects like Syscoin, who strive to meet rapidly changing compliance standards.
Over the past several months, Blockchain Foundry has been working with our legal team to define and strengthen our view that Syscoin is not a security. Given the recent SEC update, this analysis is more important than ever, especially as some trading platforms have been delisting tokens that have not made an effort to take compliance seriously.
Thanks for listening
Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees
The masses decide what 'Bitcoin' is by the adoption and usage exactly how they decide what their search engine or web browser is.
With SW as a SF BTC is a fork as well and it might be the NetscapeAltavista for the masses.
With SW as a SF BTC is a fork as well and it might be the NetscapeAltavista for the masses.
It still follows the same chain though is didn't fork off you decide it is not forced on you if you don't trust or want to use segwit then you don't have to you decide by the type of address you use
If you carry on using legacy addresses then you are using the exact same Bitcoin as you were several years ago nothing changed in that respect the data is still stored in the block in the exact same way as before.
The only time the data structure changes is when you use a segwit enabled address which in laymens terms just moves the signature data from the transaction field to a separate merkle tree that's pretty much it
As for ltc, did they need a segwit malleability fix aswell in order to use LN?
The system that was in place was for miners to signal when they was ready in order to activate a improvement this was not a issue when Bitcoin was early and spread out but since asics and large pools becoming the norm it was getting abused as any miner with over 10% could stop something even if 90% agreed
UASF was just that users running a node that activated segwit without the miners so they had 2 choices come along or signal ready and activate which they did
And yes litecoin needed a malleability fix and chose segwit for LN
The nodes activated a uahf, why do i say this....because a HF isnt forced on you...."follows the same chain though is didn't fork off you decide it is not forced on you" tek
yea i thought litecoin may have had TM issues, was unsure on what cobbles had changed back in the day when making ltc....TM wasn't one of them anyways lol.
Why would litecoin have TM issues anyone can use segwit every Bitcoin fork now automatically has segwit code and litecoin didn't need lightning it wanted it to remain relevant
LN makes commerce simple I purchased some steam vouchers the other day from bitrefill took me about 20 seconds from clicking buy to getting the code email and activating it
Why would litecoin have TM issues .................. "And yes litecoin needed a malleability fix" your comment above.
anyone can use segwit every Bitcoin fork now automatically has segwit code .....yes it does , thats why bch is special like og btc, the only version that is segwit free (pleeeease dont start that clashit stuff lol)
litecoin didn't need lightning it wanted it to remain relevant ...id say ltc and blockstream took over and killed of btc the way it was meant to be but stole the ticker.
anyways forget ltc.
Back to this uasf/uahf, ...so you agree it was an uahf activated by useless ,free to create nodes.
Segwit it nothing more than a malleability fix yes it now allows for larger blocks but that was just a side effect
One of the proposed malleability fixes for BCH is very much segwit-like
Segwit moves the signature out of the transaction area into a separate merkle root that allows for backwards compatibility
BCH's proposed fix moves the signature from the transaction area just the same as segwit but simply moves it to the end instead of to a separate merkle tree but this means it must HF and nobody gets to choose it's forced
It pretends to be a sf but really its a hf.
Whenever bch makes any major future changes, it will be the miners that choose what happens, not free to create nodes that were used to hijack btc.
Something we agree on the miners will decide major changes the same miners that pushed for the fork do you see a issue here
The miners are just employed to secure the network and are the tiniest percentage <1% of all users so why should they decide what everyone should be forced to accept
Going back to supply inflation just say BCH takes on a stupid infinite block reward subsidy and abolishes all fees somthing like 10 BCH forever per block.
Obviously you won't agree same as all other users that have value and does not want it diluting with such high inflation but the miners would be a dream come true they will hold so much wealth so why wouldn't they pass it.
The whole premise of crypto currency is to take back financial freedom and not to be just slaves to the current banking system and allowing the miners to control the code and changes is just the same you are just giving them total control instead of banks
Its not like the nodes that vote have to hold a minimum amount of btc (thats how it should be done)
I understand the whole premise of crypto, and taking back financial freedom and not being slaves to bankers system, this is why i support bch.
The nodes themselves don't vote the users do with our money
We create value as with UASF we gave it value therefore the miners not supporting segwit would be stuck on a worthless chain and were either forced to upgrade or go their own way on a minority chain hence BCH that is the minority chain one that they can control one that will never push something they won't agree with because they are the ones controlling the code so the users have to either knuckle down and just accept or fork off
Funny how you Kore fanbois can claim that "nodes create consensus" but then say "Bcash is a minority chain" based on the MINING hashrate, with no sense of irony.
Funny you mention that, Coincheck (large Japan exchange) just dropped support for Monero, Dash, and Zcash. Who cares? They'll just lose 5% of their business, probably to Binance. If the govts are able to really ramp up the crackdowns on privacy coins, decentralized exchanges will just become more widespread.
Also today it was revealed that NSA has been sniffing and tracking Bitcoin users since 2013. Exactly what paranoid people expected the whole time.
All bullish signals for the privacy coin markets.
Also today it was revealed that NSA has been sniffing and tracking Bitcoin users since 2013. Exactly what paranoid people expected the whole time.
All bullish signals for the privacy coin markets.
Yeah, exactly, who cares? Coincheck have had huge problems with hacking and with verifying their users. The Japanese government already is investigating them for all their failures to comply, so they're probably dropping all these anonymous coins to reduce their risk exposure. I will say one thing though, Verge benefited from early hype pumps, thanks to good old McAfee... but it does have some technological value. Whether or not it will prove to be better or more used than coins like Monero, can't say. Privacy coins already had their huge runs, they're now struggling just like any other alt.
Well Monero is on thin ice right now due to a fork in the PoW algorithm. Bitmain produced ASICs that mine the old PoW, and there is also a MoneroV hardfork coin dropping soon. XMR price looks pretty shaky as a result, whereas XVG is pumping hard...
Re: SCAM 1 BAIKAL-N , SCAM 2 Bitmain X3, SCAM 3 Pinidea RR-200.. ASIC hidden mining
How asics kill coins. I dont see how dies bitcoin litecoin dash...
I will tel you how, its simple, by:
1. creating high end miners with really high hash rates the Asic manufactures
2. putting them to mine for themselves,
3. collecting a lot of coins with low production cost
4. Pumping these coins
5. Selling - dumping the collected coins for huge profit
6. Releasing for sale the miners to the Public
7. Making huge profits again from the sales ..
By adding a lot of Hash rate to a coin the selling activity is higher that the investment activity so the coin is going all the way to zero, till the Asic miners will stop to have profit and they will move to the next coin ....
Did you understand now how they play the game ?
You nailed it. A friend rushed to buy the Antminer X3 due to FOMO and now Bitmain apparently is offering to refund $9000 of the $12000. So he's getting a $3000 doorstop.
OUCH
Re: ⚒ Syscoin -$3 Million 1st round financing; World 1st Decentralized Marketplace!
I've been waiting the masternode for a long time.Do you have any specific time？The price has been sluggish and the market reacts coldly.
Bro, they announced the masternodes release date only one page back:
We are pleased to announce the release of Syscoin 3.0 on March 31st, 2018. @syscoin 3.0 will include Masternodes [v1], assets and Z-Dag(Zeroconf Transactions).
A @Blockfoundry blog post will be published later this week with further details.
https://twitter.com/emurgo_io/status/971413979821199361
Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees
'Other cryptocurrencies are downright scams...like Bcash''-@jhamel's Testimony to the Canadian Standing Committee on Finance FINA
Hamel had then posted on Reddit prior to giving the crypto testimony, writing, Spoiler: I'm gonna say Bcash is a scam and it's gonna be archived forever in the Parliamentary records (not a blockchain but still...) Donations are welcome,
Looks like Hamel's pandering statement was exactly that. Pathetic.
As another pointed out:
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Not to mention the fact that in terms of any governing body trying to distinguish between legitimate tech and true scams, Bcash does not clearly distinguish itself as a 'scam' while leaving Bitcoin legit. Both Bitcoin and Bcash are susceptible to influence by bad actors with enough capital to create a wake. So while assumptions being made about the motivations of actors like Roger Ver might be correct, if you seek to have the government recognize a forked chain of Bitcoin as a scam, how do you anticipate they are going to evaluate the parent technology from which Bcash forked?
The point is there is nothing inherent to Bcash protocol that makes it a scam while Bitcoin is not.
The point is there is nothing inherent to Bcash protocol that makes it a scam while Bitcoin is not.
It's not the protocol it's the people pushing it
BCH was a contingency plan led by bitmain the main people pushing it are miners that needed something to protect their investment in mining equipment it was not certain if BTC would do a PoW switch effectively bricking the mining equipment they had invested in.
Why do you think Jihan pushes for BCH but also advocates that it is different to BTC and both should survive and both have their own merits.... If one dies he has just lost a huge sales market that's why
Sorry but being run by and pushed by for profit companies to protect their investments makes it a scam
Bitmain etc own a HUGE chunk of BCH that has yet to be touched in the last 8 month and sooner or later it will move and there just is not enough liquidity to support this I think once the users that have been stockpiling start moving there will be a huge panic sell as this could be them preparing for a exit
As opposed to the Blockstream faggots? Maxwell, Back, and Todd have all been compromised, and they work in VERY important development and decision-making positions. Ver and Jihan Wu haven't made any decisions about BCH other than the price, and price really is the least important factor in determining if a cryptocurrency is viable...
You need to grow a brain, tek. Propping up their increasingly thin propaganda and hyping the proven-to-be-insecure LN is really not doing you any good. /r/Bitcoin is really just for dummies now - they've censored and/or banned any reasonable discourse, so you're just lapping up drool from the masters of that tiny brain-dead universe known as Blockstream.
Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources]
Do I believe McAfee is paranoid enough to examine every line of code before he buys an untraceable privacy coin? Yes. That's why he must be telling the truth.
Hmm McAfee is smart but I don't think he codes much. Also it's known that he tried to extort coin devs in exchange for tweets.
I think he is correct about the viability of XVG. Privacy coins are already on the upswing this month, and I see no reason that won't continue. With the NSA Bitcoin spying revelations today I see bulls...
Not a really difficult thing to do actually, must have been on of his "clear" days....
Kind of off-topic, but he "hacked" the Belize govt officials by donating them high-end laptops with pre-installed malware and keyloggers. Not really a hack.
despite the current heavy bear market I believe we'll see verge explode soon. Privacy related coins (like monero as well) will become massive once governments will start heavily taxing crypto earnings
It makes sense. But chances are high that governments will surely figure out tax evasions and will probably restrict anonymous coins especially on exchanges under their jurisdiction.
Funny you mention that, Coincheck (large Japan exchange) just dropped support for Monero, Dash, and Zcash. Who cares? They'll just lose 5% of their business, probably to Binance. If the govts are able to really ramp up the crackdowns on privacy coins, decentralized exchanges will just become more widespread.
Also today it was revealed that NSA has been sniffing and tracking Bitcoin users since 2013. Exactly what paranoid people expected the whole time.
All bullish signals for the privacy coin markets.
Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees
So coinbase has to support Bitcoin private the same way it supported bit coin cash then. It's a fork. It should support every fork not just one.
Where are all the lawsuits from the Bitcoin private crowd demanding their bit coin privates from coinbase?
Can anyone make a bit coin fork now and then complain kicking and screaming about lawsuits to get their coin listed on coinbase? Because the point you proved is someone made a fork and then "complained" and then it magically appeared on coinbase. And even after it magically appeared after all the kicking and screaming coinbase still was hit with an insider trading lawsuit
If coinbase only added Bitcoin cash after all this "kicking and screaming"
Where are all the lawsuits from the Bitcoin private crowd demanding their bit coin privates from coinbase?
Can anyone make a bit coin fork now and then complain kicking and screaming about lawsuits to get their coin listed on coinbase? Because the point you proved is someone made a fork and then "complained" and then it magically appeared on coinbase. And even after it magically appeared after all the kicking and screaming coinbase still was hit with an insider trading lawsuit
If coinbase only added Bitcoin cash after all this "kicking and screaming"
Bro you came here stating that BCH is a "scam" because Coinbase listed it. That idea was debunked for you.
Now it appears you're starting to grasp the concepts of forking. Yes a few people probably demanded Coinbase redeem their BTCP and BTG for them. Guess what? Coinbase is a huge company and they just steamrolled right past these people. BTG and BTCP are pretty much shitcoins with 1 or 2 exchanges even supporting them. Also, they're valued very low. Finally, it's a lot of work and potential security risk to support new coins, especially fork/airdropped ones.