I post my question again, some people like to overrule others questions with useless linking it seems:

Can anyone explain why VIB has fundamental value? You get paid out in VIB, but there is no need to hold it, you can just convert it straight to BTC. With atomic swaps coming up  this will even go faster.

So even if VIB has enormous usage there is no point in holding it as far I can tell.
Is there any system which  locks in VIB? For example , holding VIB in a  wallet before you can contibute, so regular contributers have an incentive to hold at least a small amount.
Being a usage token, VIB needs incentives to be locked up otherwise its doomed to go to zero in the long run.
Also see this post: https://multicoin.capital/2017/12/08/understanding-token-velocity/
Glad to hear counter arguments.

Thx.

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Take your time and read about your invetments on www.viberate.io, here little help

viberate will do on viberate.com

- sale tickets for all live concerts - and get for this provisions
- sale of advertising space on website
- musicians will be paid via the platform
- access to premium contacts from the music industry - users will pay for this
- and also you will be able to purchase promotional products from music industry

for all this transaction you will use vib coins before that you will use atomic swaps from example BTC to VIB.

Best wallet is www.myetherwallet.com ,

This is a surprice

today announcement

VIB token just got listed on OKEx exchange.
https://support.okex.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003874432-OKEx-Launches-SHOW-VIB-MOT-UTK-MAG

1. VIB deposit - 19:00 Jan 9, 2018 (Hong Kong Time)
2. VIB spot trading - 16:00 Jan 10, 2018 (Hong Kong Time)
3. VIB withdrawal - Jan 11, 2018 (Hong Kong Time)

Happy trading everyone!

OKEx Launches SHOW, VIB, MOT, UTK, MAG
Dear Valued Customers，
We are launching ShowCoin (SHOW), Viberate (VIB), Olympus Labs (MOT), Utrust (UTK), Maggie (MAG) soon, please take note of

Hi,

in near future will hapen:

- banks will develope own solution to transfer money and all this solutions you have on coinmarketcup will be forgotten
- BTC and other coins will lose most of their values, when world crisis will hapen again every one will prefare old money to return loans ...
- Exchanges will not have enough to pay off money , time to transfer BTC from A to B will be maybe one week
- Than after this colaps will stay only solutions that have something to show , like other companies
- And Viberate is one of them, because they have big tim, they have goog solution, they can sale music tickes an much more ...

Only for info , project Iconomi (ICN) lost everything ALL ETHs that earned with ICO (yestrdays technical problem with Wallet Parity wallet), so they do not have money any more.

drop?, 25 mio yesterday, today 35 mio, check all project if you get today 300 % you will lose tomorrow 80 % of total win. This is because people
only speculate about token value and really they do not know what to do with this token. Here behind is serious bussines and people that hold VIB tokens
they do not want to sell for this low price. This project can be realistically worth 100 times more than it is now. Now if we check they have beta version
aplication and when they will start with final version bussines will start(musicians, card buyers, managers ...) . And than will be to late to invest because
bussines like this will be worth in first year ..., and than you should calculate what is

35 mio what is current price for the entire business ( it will be enough maybe second year for running costs).

and this, check this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsJP9OmYhhc

and also this facts to help about invetment,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mNAdHL2R84
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NUCb93gY1I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdHk0CiNA-I&t=249s

and most important, whay you do not know about this project
they started with

EtherDelta
Livecoin
than
HITBTC
and in last 24h
Bittrex
Binance
and got info they will be on all big exchanges, check other project and you will see how many has this opportunity.
This means that everyone believes it is a big project.
Thas is all I found out for now.



 

This token is not under ICO price. ICO price was 0,1$ now is 0,22$.
ICO tokens where sold in less than 5 min, TOP 5 best result ever.
Team has around 25 members now they will hire aprex 20-25 new members.
They work with Charlie Shrem if you not know hwo it is , check.
All members are from Internation music bussines. 
This is one the most serious project from the start.
In my opinion is better long and short term investment than bitcoin.