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Re: Energi [NRG] Cryptocurrency for World Adoption | PoS | MN | No-ICO or Premine |
That is really great to hear actually! I want nothing more than a big buzz for Energi organically. I enjoyed the interview but I still stand by what I said about a boisterous voice. Justin Sun, Charles Hoskinson, even CZ from Binance ... all characters, love them or hate them, you REMEMBER them!! No reason TWP can't be right there beside them, watch us skyrocket.
Wooooooooshhhhh (rocket sounds). Thanks for the heads up on the video as well.
Wooooooooshhhhh (rocket sounds). Thanks for the heads up on the video as well.
Re: Energi [NRG] Cryptocurrency for World Adoption | PoS | MN | No-ICO or Premine |
First and foremost, I've been with Energi for a long time and I am big supporter! I love the tech and the message that comes with the community as whole. I will admit, I am quite apprehensive voicing my concerns on Discord as the narrative there is quite a tension riddled one. This is an open message for anyone at Energi to acknowledge the quiet majority that exists. I have been involved in many "side private conversations" after something on Discord has happened. A few days ago someone abbreviated the word "bullshit" into "bs". That comment was deleted. The user expressed themselves how they were explaining they commented bullshit in regards to a frustrated situation they were involved in. This is an expression of self ... this is not FUD or disrespectful in any means. There are many examples that happen weekly but that is just one example of policing emotional expression that in no way hurts anyone. Time and time again, the manners of NRG users on Discord are constantly policed by the moderators. Would it be reasonable to say that maybe some of the moderators thoroughly enjoy policing manners, in what they deem as disrespectful? How does one classify rudeness?
I've seen the answer that "this is a family oriented Discord community and we need to respect all". Where do we draw the line of what's acceptable or not? Is up to the individual moderator? Is it based solely based on the rules provided in Discord? If so, as a big supporter of Energi, I will not post comments and replies from TWP because that would be quite a turn off for anyone new in the space, or interested in NRG, to read the hypocrisy of the rules and who they apply too. There is a very strong silent group who feels very similar to these statements but there is a fear of speaking up and then Brock rolls in and lays the heavy hand.
A few posts before me, the former "oil and gas" employee who put all of his life savings in crypto and then Bashful stole them ... maybe this is true, maybe it is not ... it's still written like an infomercial with zero human connection or authenticity. After 2-3 months of learning about crypto he put his entire life savings in? C'mon ... my brother in law works for oil up North and I am sorry but the truckers mouth on him is unreal. And he would never, ever dump his savings into something so volatile as crypto. I understand the need to post something like that in regards to some of the previous accusations but that story really came across trying to sell something. Where is our rawness? Were is the true emotion of humans in this beautiful Energi space? I feel like this is an attempted Orwellian world NRG and the team are trying to create. I applaud the golden rule, I applaud values, morals and ethics ... I just feel our project is greatly lacking authentic real and raw emotion. The comments on Twitter, Reddit etc are all infomercials. Maybe it's a language barrier thing I'm not really sure but if our tech is truly that revolutionary and Energi X coming to even bigger news for the entire crypto space ... where is our swagger? Where is the sexiness of this project?
The last few days there has been such a big buzz of alts and the money pouring into them. IOTA, Ren, ADA, Tezos, Zil etc etc are everywhere! I'm not a marketing guy so i won't begin to speak on that. I am a consumer however and never, never seeing our project on peoples lists in social media is incredibly disheartening. When you're in love, you want to scream it to the world ... why is nobody screaming? Metaphor people ... why are regular people not mentioning us? I don't have the answers but hopefully somebody is asking these questions in your meetings. And it's not an exchanges issue ... Divi is everywhere and they have limited exchanges ... Best tech does not win IE Beta vs VHS ...
I wish TWP would take the reigns here and be more boisterous. Remember the AMA Tommy? Please don't disregard how that AMA gave people like me, a massive confidence boost forward. Speak more! About NRG! Hey you'll piss some people off here and there but guess what? Passion wins baby and TWP is passionate!! If not him, somebody else possibly? Ryan seems like an awesome President, extremely knowledgeable and a good human altogether. We all have strengths, we all have weaknesses, I don't think interviews with Ryan are the best for a "buzz" around the space. Ever see an interview with Charles? He's arrogant, he has swagger, he swears (so does TWP) and that multi millionaire makes a big effort to stay in touch and be relatable. I just don't understand how nobody see's we need that. If TWP took more of a voice, watch what happens ... or someone!
Word has gotten around way to much that we paid for all our advertisements. I really truly hope the NRG team is receiving feedback on this. Nothing changes in my world. Just a morning of frustration while surfing the web and seeing so many other bullshit projects receive awareness and buzz and here we are, super amazing project and nobody is talking about us unless we pay them. I can tell you this, I don't shut up about our treasury to all my friends and family and the returns possible and Energi Impact etc etc. The infomercial style posting social media thing going on is really tough to observe. Do we have any plans for any conventions? Maybe since I live in North America I'm not noticing more of a push across the ocean perhaps? If global adoption is our longest term goal ... what are we doing now to stay in peoples minds that we have an excellent project to share to the world?
In no way shape or form do any of my words mean ill will, I will continue to support as long as I can. Just a tougher morning surfing the web is all ... not seeing my hot ass crypto project nowhere to be seen and afraid to say anything on Discord.
I've seen the answer that "this is a family oriented Discord community and we need to respect all". Where do we draw the line of what's acceptable or not? Is up to the individual moderator? Is it based solely based on the rules provided in Discord? If so, as a big supporter of Energi, I will not post comments and replies from TWP because that would be quite a turn off for anyone new in the space, or interested in NRG, to read the hypocrisy of the rules and who they apply too. There is a very strong silent group who feels very similar to these statements but there is a fear of speaking up and then Brock rolls in and lays the heavy hand.
A few posts before me, the former "oil and gas" employee who put all of his life savings in crypto and then Bashful stole them ... maybe this is true, maybe it is not ... it's still written like an infomercial with zero human connection or authenticity. After 2-3 months of learning about crypto he put his entire life savings in? C'mon ... my brother in law works for oil up North and I am sorry but the truckers mouth on him is unreal. And he would never, ever dump his savings into something so volatile as crypto. I understand the need to post something like that in regards to some of the previous accusations but that story really came across trying to sell something. Where is our rawness? Were is the true emotion of humans in this beautiful Energi space? I feel like this is an attempted Orwellian world NRG and the team are trying to create. I applaud the golden rule, I applaud values, morals and ethics ... I just feel our project is greatly lacking authentic real and raw emotion. The comments on Twitter, Reddit etc are all infomercials. Maybe it's a language barrier thing I'm not really sure but if our tech is truly that revolutionary and Energi X coming to even bigger news for the entire crypto space ... where is our swagger? Where is the sexiness of this project?
The last few days there has been such a big buzz of alts and the money pouring into them. IOTA, Ren, ADA, Tezos, Zil etc etc are everywhere! I'm not a marketing guy so i won't begin to speak on that. I am a consumer however and never, never seeing our project on peoples lists in social media is incredibly disheartening. When you're in love, you want to scream it to the world ... why is nobody screaming? Metaphor people ... why are regular people not mentioning us? I don't have the answers but hopefully somebody is asking these questions in your meetings. And it's not an exchanges issue ... Divi is everywhere and they have limited exchanges ... Best tech does not win IE Beta vs VHS ...
I wish TWP would take the reigns here and be more boisterous. Remember the AMA Tommy? Please don't disregard how that AMA gave people like me, a massive confidence boost forward. Speak more! About NRG! Hey you'll piss some people off here and there but guess what? Passion wins baby and TWP is passionate!! If not him, somebody else possibly? Ryan seems like an awesome President, extremely knowledgeable and a good human altogether. We all have strengths, we all have weaknesses, I don't think interviews with Ryan are the best for a "buzz" around the space. Ever see an interview with Charles? He's arrogant, he has swagger, he swears (so does TWP) and that multi millionaire makes a big effort to stay in touch and be relatable. I just don't understand how nobody see's we need that. If TWP took more of a voice, watch what happens ... or someone!
Word has gotten around way to much that we paid for all our advertisements. I really truly hope the NRG team is receiving feedback on this. Nothing changes in my world. Just a morning of frustration while surfing the web and seeing so many other bullshit projects receive awareness and buzz and here we are, super amazing project and nobody is talking about us unless we pay them. I can tell you this, I don't shut up about our treasury to all my friends and family and the returns possible and Energi Impact etc etc. The infomercial style posting social media thing going on is really tough to observe. Do we have any plans for any conventions? Maybe since I live in North America I'm not noticing more of a push across the ocean perhaps? If global adoption is our longest term goal ... what are we doing now to stay in peoples minds that we have an excellent project to share to the world?
In no way shape or form do any of my words mean ill will, I will continue to support as long as I can. Just a tougher morning surfing the web is all ... not seeing my hot ass crypto project nowhere to be seen and afraid to say anything on Discord.
Re: Energi [NRG] Cryptocurrency for World Adoption | PoS | MN | No-ICO or Premine |
just genuinely curious what you guys are implying will or could happen.
I wouldn't rely on the content written here on this forum as leverage against or for the legitimacy of any cryptocurrency. Anyone can say anything and that's not going to help anyone in the long term.
I've been following Energi from the side lines for a while now. They continually deliver on goals and promises. Sure, it's annoying that deposits are currently closed, but lets look at the big picture. They're creating something that has never existed before and I think they're doing a great job.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. People need to stop going around touting anti-Energi propaganda. Unless you're on the dev team, you can't really say anything about the success or failure of this project. From the beginning, they made it clear that this was an experimental project.
If Energi wins, we win. If Energi loses, we all lose.
Take a look at their github, there are commits that are very recent and they worked around the clock to dispatch 3.0.6 following a DDos attack. If they're isn't dissemination of anti-Energi hate, I'd be worried that this project was failing. The fact that people are writing hateful (untrue) things about the project and the people involved, is proof that Energi is doing something right. (Side note: I anticipate that we see commits very soon as evidence that we're moving forward).
To follow all this however, I think it is time for the team to come forward with a new plan-of-attack. I think if the deposit had been locked for 2 weeks, that would be sufficient time to go without an explanation. If deposits are not open in the next 2 to 3 weeks, I think it is only fair that the team steps forward and provides a bit more explanation and also a timelines so we can be ready for deposits to open so we can resume using this amazing cryptocurrency.
I trust that Tommy has his head screwed on properly. I trust the team IS working right now as I type this to fix the issues at hand. Don't let fear and greed get the best of you.
Thank you for explaining how I feel with better connotation and syntax. I know my question to the other side is fueling this fire but I just can't grasp what the proposed scam endgame here is. The Energi Team is obviously, and I'm not using that word lightly, obviously working their tails off to get us pushing forward. Makes this investor happy and confident. Among many other things mentioned by my sinister apex predator's comments.
Re: Energi [NRG] Cryptocurrency for World Adoption | PoS | MN | No-ICO or Premine |
Greetings again, quick question for the hot topic. Friendly reminder I'm and NRG supporter but also appreciating both sides and points of view.
If Energi is a scam as you guys say, what's the proposed end game here? What if the deposits open in 2-3 weeks, price goes down a bit and up and just does it's normal thing and all is well? Then Energi X comes out, things are rolling etc etc.
Or if this really is a scam, what is being implied is going to continue to happen? The deposits never open and all holders have lost? Looking for possible scenarios that people are saying are going to roll out. Not gaslighting or anything here guys, just genuinely curious what you guys are implying will or could happen.
If Energi is a scam as you guys say, what's the proposed end game here? What if the deposits open in 2-3 weeks, price goes down a bit and up and just does it's normal thing and all is well? Then Energi X comes out, things are rolling etc etc.
Or if this really is a scam, what is being implied is going to continue to happen? The deposits never open and all holders have lost? Looking for possible scenarios that people are saying are going to roll out. Not gaslighting or anything here guys, just genuinely curious what you guys are implying will or could happen.
Re: Energi [NRG] Cryptocurrency for World Adoption | PoS | MN | No-ICO or Premine |
lol Mergatroid dude shut your damn mouth. you're accusing everyone of being a fake account yet your account is just as new as anybody else in here.
that is such a childish and weak attempt to dismiss serious concerns.
and even if these were all one guy with fake accounts doesn't it bother you that your handlers still weren't able to precisely address and refute andy's accusations? just telling people it's fud and that's it?
chain splits are dangerous so investors have to be 'protected'? if they cared about investors and the chain they would have never launched such an unfinished project. what is your explanation that the chain is still running even though there seems to be risk for the users? normal transactions are fine, withdrawals from exchanges are fine too no risk there, but oh my the deposits to an exchange now that is an transaction that suddenly poses serious risks to our users and we have to 'protect' them? seriously i want this question answered and don't give me that lame medium article which delivers no explanation whatsoever.
also funny to see how you can't imagine an investor speaking up about the suspicious stop on deposits and communication around energi team, just goes to show that you're a coward who wouldn't voice his doubts (if you had some you poor brainwashed shill) until he can get rid of his own bags.
what kind of kindergarden logic is that hahaha, here's some advice:
form your own opinion don't just repeat what uncle tommy preached about that evil hacker Bashful, as if the dude is in here arguing with you and creating alts lmfao get a grip
then go create another 'Andreys New Account AGAIN' and call others losers to show how you don't want to waste your time here you pathetic hypocrite
that is such a childish and weak attempt to dismiss serious concerns.
and even if these were all one guy with fake accounts doesn't it bother you that your handlers still weren't able to precisely address and refute andy's accusations? just telling people it's fud and that's it?
chain splits are dangerous so investors have to be 'protected'? if they cared about investors and the chain they would have never launched such an unfinished project. what is your explanation that the chain is still running even though there seems to be risk for the users? normal transactions are fine, withdrawals from exchanges are fine too no risk there, but oh my the deposits to an exchange now that is an transaction that suddenly poses serious risks to our users and we have to 'protect' them? seriously i want this question answered and don't give me that lame medium article which delivers no explanation whatsoever.
also funny to see how you can't imagine an investor speaking up about the suspicious stop on deposits and communication around energi team, just goes to show that you're a coward who wouldn't voice his doubts (if you had some you poor brainwashed shill) until he can get rid of his own bags.
I would have to go with Bashful since a scammer likely has no clue about following the law.
what kind of kindergarden logic is that hahaha, here's some advice:
form your own opinion don't just repeat what uncle tommy preached about that evil hacker Bashful, as if the dude is in here arguing with you and creating alts lmfao get a grip
then go create another 'Andreys New Account AGAIN' and call others losers to show how you don't want to waste your time here you pathetic hypocrite
Wow, another new account. Just keep making them. I do wonder if there is a purpose or if you just dont keep track of your old accounts.
I clearly stated my reasons from the beginning but you respond exactly as I expect you to. If you notice, my account keeps posting, all your fake accounts stop after a post or 2 and suddenly a new account is created.
I think Energi explained it quite well but it takes some comprehension on the part of the reader for it to make sense.
And yes, I do fully believe that these brand new accounts (like yours of course) are fake accounts created by either Andrey or Bashful. I believe Bashful is more likely for the accounts since they have no clue about NDAs. Andrey does and just believes his with Energi doesnt apply (you would have to ask him why he thinks that).
No, I cant see an investor screwing themselves over while still hoping to get something out of it. Its not the question about deposits as you state. Go back and read my posts, its explained clearly but you already have and just created this new account so you can try and show more people on your side. Really, its pathetic and a waste of time.
Keep creating the new accounts. It shows more and more they are all fake so I dont need to keep responding, you prove exactly what I have said repeatedly.
Dude, please stop. I'm not very good on format in forums so guys please bare with me but I'm talking to you Mergatroid. Your constant "new account" accusations is exhausting. I am a full supporter of the Energi project but dorks like you ruin the entire damn thing. No wonder Discord is such a virgin snowflake shit show of offended little babies. I absolutely hate the discord and look at this ... still a massive supporter of the project. To the opposing sides of NRG here, you know who you are obviously, you have some legitimate beefs. I do find a few things quite peculiar, especially the exchange deposit issue. Ok folks, roll your eyes yea yea I know it's a major issue ... but there's still a part of me that kinda sorta doesn't really give a shit. I'm accumulating and accumulating as many nodes as I can so short term price doesn't affect me. Bias opinion of course but i think the main big accusation here is that Energi team members and big ol Tommy are selling off their bags at these manipulated prices. Do you guys and gals actually believe that?
Why in TF would Tommy do that? It makes absolutely no logical sense to be a multi millionaire, start a project and then scam it. The dudes got 8 figures and all of you have this image in your head he's just taxing the shit of his own project to forever and always solidify an international villainous reputation? Quick trigger fingers after Andrey posted his, well whatever he posted. Speaking of rodeo's, I've been around life quite a bit and there's one thing you can always guarantee, weak whiny people who feel unjustly treated, will always scream the loudest upon exit. Sorry Andrey, maybe you have legitimate claims, maybe you don't but at no time did you need to voice your dirty laundry. I would of frozen your coins too after you talked all that smack. Why? Because I can and you started it. What did you expect man? I actually find it quite simple of you to not think that would happen. Is it dirty? Yup! Did you start a fight? Yup! When you kick someone in the balls, don't act all jesus like when you get smacked back in the face.
And trust me, there's definitely some things i strongly dislike about this project and what makes it even worse, the discord. I absolutely agree with opposing council in regards to how brutal discord is. I've never seen the emotional police in action like I have on there lol. I'm an adult and I'm too old to worry about offending people because maybe they kinda sorta didn't really understand the context of my statement and now are upset. GTFOH. Oh yes, the best, the absolute BEST is when Tommy makes an appearance and swears, and says "I didn't start this to be told wtf to do" etc etc lol lol. It's actually quite hilarious the irony and noooobody can say anything. And again, i really don't give a shit. He can do what he wants, no sweat off my back. Look how motivated the guy is, look at the roadmap, look at the GOOD things happening and happening fast. There isn't another project I'm a bigger supporter of and i don't see that changing. You know what i do when discord pisses me off? I don't go back on discord lol.
Energi's tech support is above and beyond as well. Show me a comparable or better project. Did all these node updates get annoying, for sure they did. Lost rewards for a bunch of days as well, that really sucked too. Are all of these reasons to flip my lid and just go crazy and call this company a scam? Nope. I personally had zero thoughts of that and were only introduced when Andrey voiced his disgruntlement. I just feel like the hate right now is coming from a spiteful place for certain people and I can't resonate with that anger.
Hey Energi Core, I wish I could voice my concerns on discord or in any other environment but I am paranoid. I commend you for creating a "positive" experience but clearly, clearly it is not a true representation. I go on once or twice a week and I always regret it. As my children say, so cringy. You realize how many side conversations are going on about the absolute lack of, for the lack of a better word, discord we can have on that platform? I used to be a part of many but what's the point. To literally not even be able to discuss the deposit issue is, well just super silly. Can't even mention another project in any way shape or form. How can you honestly say that is a smart idea? You flat out call Andrey's claims lies and FUD. Do you guys think that maybe the community could have an opinion on that? If it was Tommy's personal discord, sure, ban away. But if this is a project with full disclosure and an open environment for one to speak their mind, you have failed in doing so. Especially when mod's can lay down the hammer and send us all to time out. Lmao and please don't forget how Tommy flies in there and lays down Thor's big hammer lol. It's like the biggest elephant in the room and nobody is talking about. "We're all about positivity, no FUD, no swearing and good energy, here's our founder who's a cowboy in all shapes and sizes, say's and does whatever he wants, yay!" Incredible double standard Energi Core and if you think nobody notices, you are very wrong. Personally, I think Tommy is a yahoo and I enjoy his presence. But then you should let all of us be like him. I'll always invest in passion and a big voice. But you guys really need to figure out what you want to be, especially when he chimes in at his leisure. We need an adult platform where anyone can speak their mind. Let your last 2 years and many more do the talking. Flex your shit, don't police the losers.
But nothing is worse than the OH MY GOD cringe worthy comments on twitter lol. Those "energizers" aren't even trying man lol. Love this project for the tech, passion and motivation but the marketing department, ouff, need a full revamp. Whoever was in charge of the apparel project, wow lol. And hey guess what? If I said that on discord, could you imagine the response? lol I'd be banned for infinity for spreading FUD. Is it FUD? Or could it possible be my opinion about something? If management is that worried about FUD, to me, that's a far bigger worry then most others. Be strong Energi, let people talk shit and stand strong and prove people wrong with your actions, not your emotional police. We have wives and husbands for that. Look how fast Energi is coming out with updates, fixing node issues immediately, helping customers with super fast response times, man this stuff is awesome!! Energi X is coming, right on everyone!! Be proud, not so cowardly and "oh no people found Andrey's post, we shall smear Andrey (not really but kinda sorta) instead and ban any speech about that matter. Cmon man, the strong survive and we're strong. Show the haters we're a top notch project. Anyways, this felt good to get out here. I think there's solid points on both sides but i am definitely going to continue this project I believe so strongly in. I will continue to read both sides but i will always be responsible for my own decisions and opinions, open dialogue is the only way to go here and I value all of your opinions, I hope my little rant didn't offend anyone, lol kidding, i don't give a shit if it did and you shouldn't either. Only 2 years old guys and gals, no scam here, in my humble opinion. BIG HUGS FOR EVERYONE ... from a distance of course
Re: Energi [NRG] Cryptocurrency for World Adoption | PoS | MN | No-ICO or Premine |
Your article is banned from being spoken about on Discord ... could you elaborate your post script about Tommy being a "king" and the paid motivators?