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身陷传销风波的Bitcoin替代 - LeoCoin
CNBC news
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102565765
一个新的数字货币，被称为LEOCoin的创始人，曾回击公布上周末有疑似传销早在2012联系起来报告。
上周，总部位于英国的学习型企业组织（LEO）亮相香港的交易平台为其cryptocurrency称为LEOCoin，该公司正在推动作为替代较为流行的数字货币如比特币。
在伦敦上市的前一周，LEO夸口说，它已经推出了产品，以目前的客户群，并声称这意味着超过10万的企业家已经在积极使用cryptocurrency在期待它的正式挂牌，与已签署了约3万客商。
它还声称，这使得它在世界上第二大数字货币，第二个比特币，但一直被抨击在上周行业网站报告。乔尔Dalais，虚拟货币的企业家和比特币兑换IBWT主任，在上述cryptocoinsnews.com的LEOCoin是一个什么样的泵和抛售硬币看起来很好的例子。 他还驳回了相当大的使用它的要求是多头* T。
更多比特币获得一个对手，怎么会票价？
另一个行业网站的一篇文章，叫CoinDesk，深入研究项目的创始人丹·安德森和与Atif卡姆兰的历史，并说两人都陷入了周围的疑似传销，被称为UNAICO巴基斯坦的争议，被警告的证券交易巴基斯坦在2012年的佣金。
网上公布，由巴基斯坦证券交易委员会的报告中说，它已收到各类市民投诉，声称UNAICO是传销。信中，日期为2012年4月，得出结论认为，该公司的活动，并大致可的欺诈行为的定义之内，并给了一个建议关闭该公司。
LEO的丹·安德森被称为是UNAICO的CEO的时间和与Atif卡姆兰通过Sitetalk，这被描述为一个姐妹关注，巴基斯坦委托一个社会共同体平台还链接到公司。
传销？
齐格弗里德Layda |盖蒂图片社
传销通常被描述为计划的实施，参与者试图通过招募新成员加入该计划的程序崩溃，有的成员失去金钱之前赚钱。该CoinDesk文章引述传销的起诉，威廉·请专家证人的话说，一些LEO的商业模式也提出疑问，尤其突出，它提供鼓励使用者招募他人。
LEO，同时，也有力地驳斥了这些指控通过电子邮件，他们告诉CNBC完全不真实的。
丹·安德森和与Atif卡姆兰从来没有参与过任何形式的骗局和对他们的意见已经完全误解的事实，一个发言人LEO在电子邮件声明中说。
从UNAICO和Sitetalk双双辞职不同意有关该业务的发展方向后，根据该声明，其表示，他们也确保偿还那些赔了钱。他们已经正式出院的所有负债，并在所有的这些事情当局充分合作，该发言人补充说。
新时代
该公司还旨在冷却谈话，它被人为夸大其用户群。在活动现场在伦敦三月，LEO承认，cryptocurrency是针对更多的中小型规模的企业 - 尤其是在新兴经济体 - 而不是已经开始接受比特币的大型集团企业。
商人的几个例子透露，CNBC所使用LEOCoin是一家巴基斯坦公司名为首都汽车公司，在斯洛文尼亚的一家金融服务公司称Profitus Skupina和德国的节能服务公司，叫做变压器。
总部位于英国的马运动按摩一家名为欢乐Horse世界也在名册以及Strel游泳，一家英国的网络公司，组织在欧洲游泳之旅。博鲁特Strel，一个主管Strel，通过电话告诉CNBC，该公司只使用cryptocurrency取得10和15之间的交易见过，但预计该行业作为一个整体是在一个濒临新的时代。
比较流行的比特币是虚拟货币，允许用户对商品和服务的Exchange Online学分。虽然是颁发他们没有中央银行，比特币可以在线使用计算机来完成困难的任务，被称为采矿过程创建。过多的所谓altcoins，或替代硬币，如雨后春笋般涌现旁边比特币。多吉币，这是最初开始作为一个笑话在2013年的基础上的网络流行词，仍是市值计算的第六大数字货币，根据coinmarketcap.com。
CNBC news
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102565765
一个新的数字货币，被称为LEOCoin的创始人，曾回击公布上周末有疑似传销早在2012联系起来报告。
上周，总部位于英国的学习型企业组织（LEO）亮相香港的交易平台为其cryptocurrency称为LEOCoin，该公司正在推动作为替代较为流行的数字货币如比特币。
在伦敦上市的前一周，LEO夸口说，它已经推出了产品，以目前的客户群，并声称这意味着超过10万的企业家已经在积极使用cryptocurrency在期待它的正式挂牌，与已签署了约3万客商。
它还声称，这使得它在世界上第二大数字货币，第二个比特币，但一直被抨击在上周行业网站报告。乔尔Dalais，虚拟货币的企业家和比特币兑换IBWT主任，在上述cryptocoinsnews.com的LEOCoin是一个什么样的泵和抛售硬币看起来很好的例子。 他还驳回了相当大的使用它的要求是多头* T。
更多比特币获得一个对手，怎么会票价？
另一个行业网站的一篇文章，叫CoinDesk，深入研究项目的创始人丹·安德森和与Atif卡姆兰的历史，并说两人都陷入了周围的疑似传销，被称为UNAICO巴基斯坦的争议，被警告的证券交易巴基斯坦在2012年的佣金。
网上公布，由巴基斯坦证券交易委员会的报告中说，它已收到各类市民投诉，声称UNAICO是传销。信中，日期为2012年4月，得出结论认为，该公司的活动，并大致可的欺诈行为的定义之内，并给了一个建议关闭该公司。
LEO的丹·安德森被称为是UNAICO的CEO的时间和与Atif卡姆兰通过Sitetalk，这被描述为一个姐妹关注，巴基斯坦委托一个社会共同体平台还链接到公司。
传销？
齐格弗里德Layda |盖蒂图片社
传销通常被描述为计划的实施，参与者试图通过招募新成员加入该计划的程序崩溃，有的成员失去金钱之前赚钱。该CoinDesk文章引述传销的起诉，威廉·请专家证人的话说，一些LEO的商业模式也提出疑问，尤其突出，它提供鼓励使用者招募他人。
LEO，同时，也有力地驳斥了这些指控通过电子邮件，他们告诉CNBC完全不真实的。
丹·安德森和与Atif卡姆兰从来没有参与过任何形式的骗局和对他们的意见已经完全误解的事实，一个发言人LEO在电子邮件声明中说。
从UNAICO和Sitetalk双双辞职不同意有关该业务的发展方向后，根据该声明，其表示，他们也确保偿还那些赔了钱。他们已经正式出院的所有负债，并在所有的这些事情当局充分合作，该发言人补充说。
新时代
该公司还旨在冷却谈话，它被人为夸大其用户群。在活动现场在伦敦三月，LEO承认，cryptocurrency是针对更多的中小型规模的企业 - 尤其是在新兴经济体 - 而不是已经开始接受比特币的大型集团企业。
商人的几个例子透露，CNBC所使用LEOCoin是一家巴基斯坦公司名为首都汽车公司，在斯洛文尼亚的一家金融服务公司称Profitus Skupina和德国的节能服务公司，叫做变压器。
总部位于英国的马运动按摩一家名为欢乐Horse世界也在名册以及Strel游泳，一家英国的网络公司，组织在欧洲游泳之旅。博鲁特Strel，一个主管Strel，通过电话告诉CNBC，该公司只使用cryptocurrency取得10和15之间的交易见过，但预计该行业作为一个整体是在一个濒临新的时代。
比较流行的比特币是虚拟货币，允许用户对商品和服务的Exchange Online学分。虽然是颁发他们没有中央银行，比特币可以在线使用计算机来完成困难的任务，被称为采矿过程创建。过多的所谓altcoins，或替代硬币，如雨后春笋般涌现旁边比特币。多吉币，这是最初开始作为一个笑话在2013年的基础上的网络流行词，仍是市值计算的第六大数字货币，根据coinmarketcap.com。
Check this out too http://www.cnbc.com/id/102565765!
CNBC news - LeoCoin - Bitcoin alternative caught in 'pyramid scheme' storm
CNBC news - LeoCoin - Bitcoin alternative caught in 'pyramid scheme' storm
Re: [2015-04-04] CD: Bitcoin Alternative LEOCoin Linked to Suspected Pyramid Scheme
Similar news from CNBC
LeoCoin - Bitcoin alternative caught in 'pyramid scheme' storm
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102565765
LeoCoin - Bitcoin alternative caught in 'pyramid scheme' storm
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102565765
I have totally missed this message for converting my cinni to stakecoin before POW end.
I am still holding a big sum of cinni.
I have been having a busy Dec and Jan.. couldn't have time to follow up the progress of any of my coins...
Could the developer help me?
You can sell CINNI and buy STK.I am still holding a big sum of cinni.
I have been having a busy Dec and Jan.. couldn't have time to follow up the progress of any of my coins...
Could the developer help me?
The rate of STK is comparable with CINNI now so that is the easiest way to take part into STK.
OH.. thanks a lot for the great tips!
I have totally missed this message for converting my cinni to stakecoin before POW end.
I am still holding a big sum of cinni.
I have been having a busy Dec and Jan.. couldn't have time to follow up the progress of any of my coins...
Could the developer help me?
I am still holding a big sum of cinni.
I have been having a busy Dec and Jan.. couldn't have time to follow up the progress of any of my coins...
Could the developer help me?
Re: [ANN] ERMIS (ERM) |The Merchant Coin| Proof of Investment |LIFETIME SHARES
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After one has spent his/her coins for many times, how your team could trace how much ERM this guy has? According to Bitcoin protocol, it is impossible/very difficult to trace how many coins a coin holder has.
If it is too difficult of us to trace the Coin holders Coin we can always take the steps of manual verification for precise calculation of coin share for ea holder. Otherwise we will verify them thru final balance of coin on ea addresses ^^, but am sure Tech team will come up for a solution for this.
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manual verification
Not possible if your altcoin becomes successful
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Otherwise we will verify them thru final balance of coin on ea addresses
Seem like you are proposing some promises, but do not have a correct concept about "address" for bitcoin-based cryptocurrencies.
Your tech team better providing a solution here before doing the IPO.
Good luck.
Actually it will be possible to create an automated system which will simply share to every adresses on the blockchain once it grows big enough excluding the specific exchangers adresses.
For now this is not a concern.
"an automated system which will simply share to every adresses on the blockchain once it grows big enough"
... Your answer really makes me worry. You really don't understand the concept of bitcoin protocol.
I am having an opposite thought. This is much more difficult (not so simple) when the blockchain grows bigger and bigger.
It is because it will require a lot of computation power to do blockchain analysis to find out the "real balance" of every single addresses when you have a blockchain of gigabytes or more..... LOL
P.S. The address balance is a wrong concept!!!! This is a common mistake among "non-technical" bitcoin users.
This misconception always leads to the questions about "negative wallet/address balance"!!!
Copied from "en.bitcoin.it"
Users who see addresses reused may incorrectly be led to believe they function similarly to wallets or bank accounts. Often this is manifested in people talking about nonsense like "address balance", "wallet address", "from address", and similar misconceptions that don't actually exist in Bitcoin.
For details and funs, you could visit the following urls.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Address_reuse
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/20w6nj/how_is_having_a_negative_balance_on/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=722205.0;all
Re: [ANN] ERMIS (ERM) |The Merchant Coin| Proof of Investment |LIFETIME SHARES
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After one has spent his/her coins for many times, how your team could trace how much ERM this guy has? According to Bitcoin protocol, it is impossible/very difficult to trace how many coins a coin holder has.
If it is too difficult of us to trace the Coin holders Coin we can always take the steps of manual verification for precise calculation of coin share for ea holder. Otherwise we will verify them thru final balance of coin on ea addresses ^^, but am sure Tech team will come up for a solution for this.
Quote
manual verification
Not possible if your altcoin becomes successful
Quote
Otherwise we will verify them thru final balance of coin on ea addresses
Seem like you are proposing some promises, but do not have a correct concept about "address" for bitcoin-based cryptocurrencies.
Your tech team better providing a solution here before doing the IPO.
Good luck.
It would be hard to track the coins through block chain, but not big deal! A simple way to make it work is just to have people screen short their wallet, once few times a month. The share part is totally a plus of this IPO project, take shares from the income of the ERMIS business.
Obviously the team has carefully designed the plan. Having people hold coins to acquire shares will prevent dumping pretty much. I will view this is a very good sign of the project.
"screen short their wallet, once few times a month." LOL
This is really low tech .. and lot concerns on validity.... LOL
Re: [ANN] ERMIS (ERM) |The Merchant Coin| Proof of Investment |LIFETIME SHARES
Quote
After one has spent his/her coins for many times, how your team could trace how much ERM this guy has? According to Bitcoin protocol, it is impossible/very difficult to trace how many coins a coin holder has.
If it is too difficult of us to trace the Coin holders Coin we can always take the steps of manual verification for precise calculation of coin share for ea holder. Otherwise we will verify them thru final balance of coin on ea addresses ^^, but am sure Tech team will come up for a solution for this.
Quote
manual verification
Not possible if your altcoin becomes successful
Quote
Otherwise we will verify them thru final balance of coin on ea addresses
Seem like you are proposing some promises, but do not have a correct concept about "address" for bitcoin-based cryptocurrencies.
Your tech team better providing a solution here before doing the IPO.
Good luck.
Re: [ANN] ERMIS (ERM) |The Merchant Coin| Proof of Investment |LIFETIME SHARES
Two more questions
(3) Concerning escrow for IPO, why escrow with bitcoin multisig is not used?
P.S. It is more safe and protecting IPO investors using a multisig bitcoin address for payment (those btc address starting with "3").
(4) Is your company a registered company? If yes, please provide the registration information and the proof (e.g. location of registered and official registered number)
P.S. Only a registered company can do real "merchant" business.
(3) Concerning escrow for IPO, why escrow with bitcoin multisig is not used?
P.S. It is more safe and protecting IPO investors using a multisig bitcoin address for payment (those btc address starting with "3").
(4) Is your company a registered company? If yes, please provide the registration information and the proof (e.g. location of registered and official registered number)
P.S. Only a registered company can do real "merchant" business.
Re: [ANN] ERMIS (ERM) |The Merchant Coin| Proof of Investment |LIFETIME SHARES
I have some simple questions about PoI.
(1) How the share of profit will be paid to the ERM coin holder?
1.1. How many times of profit sharing per year?
1.2. Dividends In what currency? ERM, BTC or USD?
1.3. How to pay the dividends to the ERM coin holder (i.e., the payment method)
(2) After one has spent his/her coins for many times, how your team could trace how much ERM this guy has? According to Bitcoin protocol, it is impossible/very difficult to trace how many coins a coin holder has.
P.S. Dividends should be given to coin holders, not IPO investors. If IPO investors are keeping their coins, they are still valid coin holders.
(1) How the share of profit will be paid to the ERM coin holder?
1.1. How many times of profit sharing per year?
1.2. Dividends In what currency? ERM, BTC or USD?
1.3. How to pay the dividends to the ERM coin holder (i.e., the payment method)
(2) After one has spent his/her coins for many times, how your team could trace how much ERM this guy has? According to Bitcoin protocol, it is impossible/very difficult to trace how many coins a coin holder has.
P.S. Dividends should be given to coin holders, not IPO investors. If IPO investors are keeping their coins, they are still valid coin holders.
Re: [ANN] [HKC] [SHA-256] 香港 HongKong Coin - A revolution - NEW MARKETS!
is this coin alive?
This coin is already dead. This is the destiny of a coingen coin.
No more exchange market supporting it.
It has been delisted from coinmarketcap.
Re: [ANN] HongKetoCoin [HKC] - The Coin For Fighters! Remix [SHA256D] (BOUNTIES)
SHA256, difficulty retargeting algo as well as nation/city-based coin are already out dated
Rebranding is not useful at all for a coingen based coin.
If you have carefully studied HongKetoCoin's source code, you will know that there are inconsistencies, which are the common problems of bitcoin-based coingen coins.
So rebranding is not good enough. You need a clean hard fork to make HKC becoming a really workable one.
Good luck!
Rebranding is not useful at all for a coingen based coin.
If you have carefully studied HongKetoCoin's source code, you will know that there are inconsistencies, which are the common problems of bitcoin-based coingen coins.
So rebranding is not good enough. You need a clean hard fork to make HKC becoming a really workable one.
Good luck!
Re: [ANN] HongKetoCoin [HKC] - The Coin For Fighters! Remix [SHA256D] (BOUNTIES)
hello HKC miners and owners,
today i submitted a fundraiser post on bitcoinstarter.com
https://bitcoinstarter.com/projects/891
if you want to get this ship back in the water please support HKC with donations and constructive criticism.
btw, the tshirt idea is for real, any creative ideas are more than welcome.
HKC is not dead!
C
today i submitted a fundraiser post on bitcoinstarter.com
https://bitcoinstarter.com/projects/891
if you want to get this ship back in the water please support HKC with donations and constructive criticism.
btw, the tshirt idea is for real, any creative ideas are more than welcome.
HKC is not dead!
C
It is really amusing that this HKC changed from HongKongCoin to HongKetoCoin, now back to HongKongCoin.
A scam coingen coin that no real Hong Kong people support it.
Please check out this link for why HongKongCoin HKC is a scam coingen coin!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=523292.0
Re: [ANN] HongKetoCoin [HKC] - The Coin For Fighters! Remix [SHA256D] (BOUNTIES)
let's see, i might be able to join the rescue team soon.
just busy to develop my own coin
how about getting some REAL hongkong crypto fans in the boat?
not cryptobuddy - but hongkong bitcoin meetup members maybe...?
just busy to develop my own coin
how about getting some REAL hongkong crypto fans in the boat?
not cryptobuddy - but hongkong bitcoin meetup members maybe...?
Why do you guy waste your time on this scam coin?
The fact is there is no real Hong Kong people support this HongKongCoin or HongKetoCoin.
If you have time, you could read the original HongKongCoin thread. No real HK people accept this HongKongCoin.
If I were you, I would accept the death of HKC, and move on to other potential coins. Well ... or you could develop your own coins.
By the way, HKC has just been delisted in the CoinMarketCap.
Re: [ANN] HongKetoCoin [HKC] - The Coin For Fighters! Remix [SHA256D] (BOUNTIES)
What a pity that the dev (rebrander) MajorMiners has disappeared for about a month.
Now HKC has been delisted from Europex and Bittrex. This is no more exchange market for HKC.
Simply speaking, this HKC is dead.
I feel extremely sorry for those persistent HKC supporters with hearty sympathy.
Actually I have warned you guys before. HKC team is not a group of serious coin developers. Basically, they planned to scam people money by selling premined coins through the sharp rising phase of a new cryptocoin with a sexy name (a coingen coin in this case). As their plan failed, I couldn't see why they still wanted to maintain or promote this HKC.
Now HKC has been delisted from Europex and Bittrex. This is no more exchange market for HKC.
Simply speaking, this HKC is dead.
I feel extremely sorry for those persistent HKC supporters with hearty sympathy.
Actually I have warned you guys before. HKC team is not a group of serious coin developers. Basically, they planned to scam people money by selling premined coins through the sharp rising phase of a new cryptocoin with a sexy name (a coingen coin in this case). As their plan failed, I couldn't see why they still wanted to maintain or promote this HKC.
Re: [ANN] TiPS ★ Kimotos Gravity Well ★ World first coin anonymizer launched!
Why the wallet downloaded from the official website can't be installed in Win7 (64bit)?
Re: [ANN] Potential Markets de-listed from Bittrex on Friday, June 13th
HongKetoCoin is such a lucky coin. It can be listed in Bittrex with so much tolerance.
While some other better coins are being removed from Bittrex, HongKetoCoin is still there.
The HongKetoCoin developer/rebrander (Majorminors) has not shown up in the ANN thread for 17 days.
At this moment, there is no buy order at all. Furthermore, the last 24 hr trade volume is "0".
While some other better coins are being removed from Bittrex, HongKetoCoin is still there.
The HongKetoCoin developer/rebrander (Majorminors) has not shown up in the ANN thread for 17 days.
At this moment, there is no buy order at all. Furthermore, the last 24 hr trade volume is "0".
Re: [ANN][HONORCOIN][XHC] PoS | Anonymity Airdrop | Poloniex & Bittrex
WTB 1M for 0.1btc
Why don't u go to the exchange? LOL
Re: [ANN][HONORCOIN][XHC] PoS | Anonymity Airdrop | Poloniex & Bittrex
I think the guys specially created panic sell. time to buy!
By the way, only newbies asking people to buy!!! LOL