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You said you plugged the wrong end of the PCIe cable, how come you don't see smoke coming out of the motherboard? Or you decide to leave that part out? When such happened to me in the past it ruined my motherboard and again motherboard isn't a stabilizer or something similar, they don't use fuse, I'm guessing the motherboard is toasted
no i think this didn't cause why would i hide anything my friend i did a mistake and i don't care what people things, we make mistakes and learn from it. The psu did not fire up so i think what i done is using the second psu to power the molex. in the handbook says use the same psu which is powering the motherboard should be powering the molex too. otherwise might cause damage which i think it did.
i never needed molex i thought it might give more stability but ashrock is rubbish making this update about molex is actually not needed for powered risers but everywhere on their website is saying plug the molex. I think it is an old board and they don't care about updating. They don't realise its probably the one of the most selling gpu in 2021. Big companies like this spending fortune for ads etc i wish they care about the support and updates for their product. At the end i got a new board now working fine with the same system and i will not use the molex on this one.
I was able to run 11gpus without any molex
when i tried 12gpu it sometimes worked but caused windows to crash.. now i have tried with molex the mb is not working at all. no light on ethernet either. i unplugged everything did cmos reset over night still no light..
While i was trying the molex i did plug the wrong end of the pcie cable which did not start the second psu then i unplugged everything worked. Tried with molex for the last time then the mb not started since.
any pointers from experienced users please i probably damaged the mb somehow but it is always good idea to ask incase if there is anything else
(i tried with both psus no start. psu test does not spin the fan when 12pin is plugged to mb otherwise works fine. )
i unplugged ram, cpu all pcies everything and only used one ram still no power or no light on ethernet. blown the fuse of the mb i guess ?
What else i can try before replace the mb?
when i tried 12gpu it sometimes worked but caused windows to crash.. now i have tried with molex the mb is not working at all. no light on ethernet either. i unplugged everything did cmos reset over night still no light..
While i was trying the molex i did plug the wrong end of the pcie cable which did not start the second psu then i unplugged everything worked. Tried with molex for the last time then the mb not started since.
any pointers from experienced users please i probably damaged the mb somehow but it is always good idea to ask incase if there is anything else
(i tried with both psus no start. psu test does not spin the fan when 12pin is plugged to mb otherwise works fine. )
i unplugged ram, cpu all pcies everything and only used one ram still no power or no light on ethernet. blown the fuse of the mb i guess ?
What else i can try before replace the mb?
adrenalin v.s phonixminer vs OverDriveNtool different voltages
when i use overdriventool voltage is about 160 for the same settings if i just decrease or increase core speed so i can apply on adrenalin then voltage drops to 105 v instantly. I also tried with the same cclock 1250 and mclock 2175 on phonixminer it says the settings loaded on startup but the voltage is high.
Basically i get much better voltage if i use adrenalin software. The problem with adrenalin is when you have 10 gpus it takes forever to load up and switching between gpus also takes a few minutes on the menu. if there is a crash then you have to load saved overclock files for each gpu this takes about 30mins 40 mins with the latest adrenalin. I can't use the msi afterburner only allows 8 gpus i guess it won't drop the voltage as adrenalin.
I run the phonixminer as admin rights but some reason i don't get the same voltage. Must be an easy fix what am i missing?
Basically i get much better voltage if i use adrenalin software. The problem with adrenalin is when you have 10 gpus it takes forever to load up and switching between gpus also takes a few minutes on the menu. if there is a crash then you have to load saved overclock files for each gpu this takes about 30mins 40 mins with the latest adrenalin. I can't use the msi afterburner only allows 8 gpus i guess it won't drop the voltage as adrenalin.
I run the phonixminer as admin rights but some reason i don't get the same voltage. Must be an easy fix what am i missing?
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You need only Phoenixminer. I use the recent drivers, there's no point for blockchain anymore. (AFAIK)
You need to mine individually for several minutes to know the overclock for each one and take notes.
After every cards is on, figure out what is gpu 0,1,2,3,4,5 by starting each one individually (gpuz will tell what card is on if you are a remote controller), if your cards are really identical, gpuz will not help and you need to be present. Set fan to 90 and use your eyes.
Then just put the numbers of each one and your command line will look like this: (only 7 cards here).
"-FANMIN 70,50,50,70,90,70,50 -FANMAX 90 -CCLOCK 1250,+150,+150,1250,-400,1250,+150 -MCLOCK 1800,+400,+400,1800,+300,1750,+400 -CVDDC 760,0,0,760,0,760,0 -MVDDC 0 -TT 75 -HSTATS 2 -PROTO 4 -POWLIM 0,-33,-33,0,-40,0,-33 -straps 2 -gser 1 -coin eth" - Go to phoenixminer page here and read all commands, there's a lot of cool things
A rig with only AMD will be simpler
Obviously for overclocking HIVEOS is hella easier but have its own problems.
I have one RIG with 20.11.2 and two using 20.12.1 (for non specific reason), I don't know what driver is the best, i'm returning to this world now and i need to re-learn.
Windows crash is often overclock, one of them is above its capacity. Incorrect/reject shares are a hint.
High temp in one card may causes crash, the card reduces their clock automatically. Low virtual memory, ram memory or disk space may cause cashes when DAG is rewritten. Another software running in the background like windows update may causes crash too. You should be able to use your browser while mining without crashing, this is a good test.
Sorry for bad english.
You need only Phoenixminer. I use the recent drivers, there's no point for blockchain anymore. (AFAIK)
You need to mine individually for several minutes to know the overclock for each one and take notes.
After every cards is on, figure out what is gpu 0,1,2,3,4,5 by starting each one individually (gpuz will tell what card is on if you are a remote controller), if your cards are really identical, gpuz will not help and you need to be present. Set fan to 90 and use your eyes.
Then just put the numbers of each one and your command line will look like this: (only 7 cards here).
"-FANMIN 70,50,50,70,90,70,50 -FANMAX 90 -CCLOCK 1250,+150,+150,1250,-400,1250,+150 -MCLOCK 1800,+400,+400,1800,+300,1750,+400 -CVDDC 760,0,0,760,0,760,0 -MVDDC 0 -TT 75 -HSTATS 2 -PROTO 4 -POWLIM 0,-33,-33,0,-40,0,-33 -straps 2 -gser 1 -coin eth" - Go to phoenixminer page here and read all commands, there's a lot of cool things
A rig with only AMD will be simpler
Obviously for overclocking HIVEOS is hella easier but have its own problems.
I have one RIG with 20.11.2 and two using 20.12.1 (for non specific reason), I don't know what driver is the best, i'm returning to this world now and i need to re-learn.
Windows crash is often overclock, one of them is above its capacity. Incorrect/reject shares are a hint.
High temp in one card may causes crash, the card reduces their clock automatically. Low virtual memory, ram memory or disk space may cause cashes when DAG is rewritten. Another software running in the background like windows update may causes crash too. You should be able to use your browser while mining without crashing, this is a good test.
Sorry for bad english.
Better English than mine mate, thank you for good advise.
I have been running my system pretty much the way you explained. I have given number to each gpu, and in the rig they stay in their order so i know gpu4 where it stays and it could be in different place on phonixminer so i can find it easily but when you updade the software this order changes and takes several hours to figure out again. Which is not a problem this is how we learn and improve i guess.
Just wondering did you mod bios your amd gpus and what hash rate do they give you?
I slept on it and I have a different solution: Sell your rx590 and purchase and old rx470( or two!).
You save some money and can go back to blockchain driver
You save some money and can go back to blockchain driver
thats the last option, not really want to sell to be honest. With current prices at the moment you cant probably buy two of them with selling one
Basicly i am using blockchain drivers for several gpus and working good for me. Now i have a rx 590 but if i dont use the latest amd software it doesn't recognise it. The latest software freezes my windows 10 so my option is run my current gpus on this system.. But i also want to use the power of 590 so i was thinking if i install VMware windows 10 and install latest software on that one for the 590 can i run it that way? I might try but better to ask wise people here if they have a similar experience or solution ?
You didn't mention your PSU, maybe the 12th card was too much for it.
Sticking with a stable 11 card rig is good advice.
Sticking with a stable 11 card rig is good advice.
i have 2x 1000w corsair so my 10 cars used around 1100w. my plan is 14gpus for this rig.
Your time is valuable as well as 2 $/ month but I like the approach.
I don't suggest moving to any linux mining distribution.
I am suggesting that you have a fine tuned rig, just let it run and find another motherboard etc for the rx590.
If this is not viable and you have time:
change the driver and use overdriventool to setup overclock and undervolt easily
Use TRM instead of phoenix, not so easy to setup but much stable with newer driver
Keep an eye also on the amount of virtual memory, PSU limit and give a look at the cpu utilitation.
Because may be its not the new driver the problem
I don't suggest moving to any linux mining distribution.
I am suggesting that you have a fine tuned rig, just let it run and find another motherboard etc for the rx590.
If this is not viable and you have time:
change the driver and use overdriventool to setup overclock and undervolt easily
Use TRM instead of phoenix, not so easy to setup but much stable with newer driver
Keep an eye also on the amount of virtual memory, PSU limit and give a look at the cpu utilitation.
Because may be its not the new driver the problem
i know i am trying simpleminer at the moment, it gives me lower hash rate than my manual tune on windows. i don't think it is that special software maybe makes it a bit easier for people. $2 is not important really. i probably lost 10 15$ already in few hours not mining. Simpleminer hasn't got the driver for rx 590 so i am runing 11 gpus so that didnt work for me.
thanks for the suggestions i might as well just run my fine tuned system without the 590
I asked mods to move this to alt coins.
I will give you some advice in a minute.
do not use windows wit that many cards.
try simplemining or as it is known as smos
https://simplemining.net/
https://simplemining.net/page/download
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1541084.0
1st month is free
2 usd a month after that.
others will say use hiveos I never used it but it is supposed to be good.
also ethos should be good.
I will give you some advice in a minute.
do not use windows wit that many cards.
try simplemining or as it is known as smos
https://simplemining.net/
https://simplemining.net/page/download
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1541084.0
1st month is free
2 usd a month after that.
others will say use hiveos I never used it but it is supposed to be good.
also ethos should be good.
thanks i know these i might try simplemining if i cant make this work but i rather keep the $2 in the pocket
i also like the windows as i can use the screen etc for browsing also might do cpu mining too. Hi newbie here.
i had 10 gpus some Rx 480, 570, and 580 using windows 10 and blockchain drivers, it was working fine. i did the over clock via amd software (i got better result compared to msi afterburner) so 10 gpus combined 301 mhz eth around 1060w. With phonixminer rxboost 30 settings it takes around 3 - 4 try and fail but once its going good for days. (one of the 580 is funny stops responding but i think its something to do with phonixminers gt configuration ) All gpus modded with polaris one click mod.
Now i am having another issue i purchased 590 8gb blockchain drivers didn't work so i installed latest 21.3.2 drivers. Clean install with ddu.
The issue is now windows sometimes freezes and require hard reset extremely annoying. What would you recommend? (i have not plug the 590 yet still using the same gpus that works fine without issue on blockchain drivers, so no power or riser issue.) Would you recommend different drivers that also compatible with 590?
My other question is that configuring all 12 gpus (overclock) will take for a while with amd software and figuring out which gpu is where as there is 12 of them with simillar model names. Is there any other recommendation for this to make the life easier? (Except msi afterburner)
The lates Amd software takes ages to start around 5mins, and there is a lag when you switch gpus i dont know if there is a way to make this faster. It is fine when 1 gpu but when you add more the time increases so more gpu you have takes longer to load driving me insane.
thanks in advance.
i had 10 gpus some Rx 480, 570, and 580 using windows 10 and blockchain drivers, it was working fine. i did the over clock via amd software (i got better result compared to msi afterburner) so 10 gpus combined 301 mhz eth around 1060w. With phonixminer rxboost 30 settings it takes around 3 - 4 try and fail but once its going good for days. (one of the 580 is funny stops responding but i think its something to do with phonixminers gt configuration ) All gpus modded with polaris one click mod.
Now i am having another issue i purchased 590 8gb blockchain drivers didn't work so i installed latest 21.3.2 drivers. Clean install with ddu.
The issue is now windows sometimes freezes and require hard reset extremely annoying. What would you recommend? (i have not plug the 590 yet still using the same gpus that works fine without issue on blockchain drivers, so no power or riser issue.) Would you recommend different drivers that also compatible with 590?
My other question is that configuring all 12 gpus (overclock) will take for a while with amd software and figuring out which gpu is where as there is 12 of them with simillar model names. Is there any other recommendation for this to make the life easier? (Except msi afterburner)
The lates Amd software takes ages to start around 5mins, and there is a lag when you switch gpus i dont know if there is a way to make this faster. It is fine when 1 gpu but when you add more the time increases so more gpu you have takes longer to load driving me insane.
thanks in advance.