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Re: mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor
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ctya
on 26/02/2025, 00:15:28 UTC
⭐ Merited by philipma1957 (3)

Today, somebody pointed out the fact that I never gave an update about my search for the admin.

So, here it is. 

I never found the admin.  I still believe he bought the pool with the intention of eventually scamming the miners.

In my estimation, this pool was great until it was sold. 

I still think about how things might have been different if the mmpool admin had not changed.

cheers

ctya
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Re: mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor
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ctya
on 14/02/2023, 23:50:48 UTC

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...Payouts to all users will be done over the next two weeks for any outstanding balances automatically. An update will be posted here when that is complete...

It has been two weeks.  There have been no updates.  There have been no payouts.



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Re: mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor
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ctya
on 12/01/2023, 17:48:58 UTC
This incident should be better known to the community and law enforcement.  What if the pool operator isn't doing this?  Maybe someone can write a press release.  There are free press release services out there.

http://mmpool.org/

MMPool is just a static news page today.
The rest of the site links serve the same news page.

The bitcoin node is offiline since about Jan 12, 2023 01:30 AM
https://bitnodes.io/nodes/193.29.105.150-8333/




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Re: mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor
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ctya
on 11/01/2023, 04:03:14 UTC

We all have to unfortunately sit back now and let the investigation run its course....

If it was a hack, then I hope they get caught, are forced to return every dime and then fry the scumbag. If it was an Admin exit strategy, then the same.

...Pool Admin to me via email

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I'm currently travelling with limited internet access, it's unfortunate timing for the pool issues happening around Christmas/New Year period. It has been difficult coordinating and reaching people.

I have contacted Proton Mail and have not yet received a response.

Communication with authorities is ongoing. It would help to have contact details for the main people affected to pass on to them. Do you have any I can provide?

I am still attempting to communicate with the person who accessed the server.

The server is still available for analysis.

I'm am just as affected as you are and would like to get resolution for the issue. While this is haopening the plan is to fix the issues and get the server running again.


so.  very.  scammy.




 

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Re: mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor
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ctya
on 09/01/2023, 17:41:12 UTC

I wish you the best for your researches. I hope you will find him

I am personnaly still thinking that mmpool is the thief. So easy no ? Steal 100K USD and post 2 emails without any proof on your own website, it doesn't look to be so complicated. Good reward for the efforts done, no ?

An honest pool operator would not ignore his users emails, especially emails from the user who solved 90% of the last blocks.

I agree with ctya, no one should point any hashrate to Mmpool, why should we trust him again ? We have NO PROOF that he is not telling us absolute bullshit on his news webpage. He is not able to give us security, and probably did a crazy exist scam. Why should we give him the opportunity to fuck us twice ?

I really hate this lack of transparency from mmpool. He could do an exception to his "Bitcointalk boycott" and come here to explain us how he managed to have such vulnerabilities on his server when his hosts a BTC mining pool.

Crazy


He should have already reported this theft to the Swedish police and the hosting ISP, 247.  A backup of the server should have been frozen as forensic evidence.
But we have seen no evidence that these common practices were followed.

The admin will probably wipe out the server with some pool rebuild next and claim that all evidence of the intrusion was lost.

It's not just a lack of transparency.  It is negligence and fraud.

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Re: mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor
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ctya
on 08/01/2023, 17:35:32 UTC
⭐ Merited by iwantmyhomepaidwithbtc2 (2)

In case anyone was thinking about mining at mmpool.org:  Do not mine at mmpool.org

admin@mmpool has not replied to any of the several emails sent to him since 28 December 2022. 

admin@mmpool.org does not visit this forum (BTF) to read posts.  If he did, we might see an email reply to a post or a news reply to a post that originated on BTF.
Since he does not read this, and does not reply to email, we don't have any dialogue regarding pool operations. 
We only have vague posts with missing facts on the mmpool.org news web page after a HUGE ROBBERY BY AN UNKNOWN THIEF.

By the way, I might have accepted the missing block scenario he describes in his news post. 
It might have been a way to move forward if this wasn't already full of lies and fraud.
It might have resulted in a large payout to me.
It is a shame that I wasn't asked if that was ok despite being owed so much and despite my several attempts by email to continue the conversation.
If he had posted that here on BTF back at 16 December 2022, then we might still be mining right into his next fraud.

Instead, I have found his location and let him know that location via email. 
Then he posted the latest news entry with more facts for you all.
I'll hire an investigator and a lawyer in his english-speaking home country (far from Sweden!) to follow up on my behalf.
He doesn't want to engage directly, so I now have to invest more to continue the conversation in person.

In the best-case scenario, the admin is negligent and he has allowed a thief to steal the reward of the last round while also neglecting his community of miners.
In the worst-case scenario, the admin is the thief.

I won't mine at mmpool.org and you shouldn't either.





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Re: mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor
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ctya
on 08/01/2023, 16:50:34 UTC

I am sorry for the loss you suffered.

Even if it is not fraud by the pool owner he still is liable for not securing the mining address correctly.

You certainly would have a civil case against him if you find him.

your loss is 6 x 16.8k = 100.8k or more I hope you can find him out and get restitution from him.

Thank you phillpma1957.
I very much appreciate it.
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Re: mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor
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ctya
on 06/01/2023, 01:08:26 UTC
⭐ Merited by philipma1957 (1) ,iwantmyhomepaidwithbtc2 (1)

I have emailed admin@mmpool.org several times since 27 December 2022 and I have received no reply since then.

The admin assured me in 2021 that the pool would remain operational and encouraged more mining.  I rented mining rigs and found the majority of the blocks in 2021.
Those rewards were paid out as promised.  The admin encouraged more mining

This year, I mined more and doubled down in the last quarter to try to find a block before the end of the year for this pool.
It was a long and difficult round with low luck.  It seemed to go on forever.  I went in deeper.
A block was found and I was elated to get some of the year-long investment back... or so I thought.

We were robbed before the payout happened.
The admin put the pool on hold for an audit and then dropped communications.

I have been patient, but this is fraud.
I don't have any other course of action: I will find the admin in person and continue the conversation.   
I emailed the admin to say exactly that message today.  Still no reply.   

So, backing up to last year...
On 27 December, I received this final message for 2022.  At the time I agreed to keep it confidential while the admin worked out the details.  But since I have had no reply, here are all the details of that final message.  The typos and removed information was exactly as I received it.  The facts don't match what actually happened since the alleged perpetrator talks about 2016 and 2017 and this all went down between December 2021 and December 2022.  But anyway, here it is.

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I have been contacted by the person who took the pool funds today. They have provided proof that they accessed the server. They apparently gained access a long time ago, and waited for the opportunity to obtain the funds. Here's part of their communication:

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The btc server was accesed first with user [removed}, I checked that wallet that was stored local and I see 0 transactions.
I copied that wallet and go away for months.
I keeped an eye on that public addreses from pool and I see no transactionas from 2016 or 2017 and I go away.
after some time I come back and check again that address and I see some coinbase transactions from some block mined.
I come back to that btc server and I tried to modified the pool config file but no admin privilege and I tried to got admin privilege with a linux kernel expl.
but was a btc server crash first time and then the root privilege escalation was succesful.
I put a new mining address and keep waiting months.
after a lot of time in a day I received a mining pool notification and bang the block mined.
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They say the funds are "in a safe place" and asked my to email them back for details which I have done today. Please keep the specific details above confidential for now while I communicate with them. I'll let you know as soon as they reply, or within 24 hours if I haven't heard back.

Somebody please quote this post for me. 
I will apologize if I am so lucky to be wrong about this fraud ... or I will find the admin and discuss it in person.


        ctya
(Calmer Than You Are )




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Re: mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor
by
ctya
on 28/12/2022, 21:55:50 UTC

http://mmpool.org/news

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2022-12-28
I've received an email from someone claiming responsibility for stealing the coins, with proof that they obtained access to the server through an exploit. I'll post an update here about the correspondence with them soon. The pool server is currently down while the software and setup is audited.

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Re: mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor
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ctya
on 27/12/2022, 17:44:48 UTC
Well I am still pointing a s17 and while it would not save the lost block if it hit it would help out a bit.

I will keep it pointed til 2023


I think it's possible for mmpool to pay out all pending rewards over the next several hit blocks.

So I hope you hit it!
... and I hope mmpool pays the pending rewards.
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Re: mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor
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ctya
on 22/12/2022, 18:04:45 UTC

The transactions look like a coin mixer.  That would imply someone is covering their tracks and the block reward was stolen from mmpool.

The theft or loss of pool funds is not the miners' responsibility.
Miners pay a 1.5% administration fee in exchange for the administration of the pool and its processes.

There is currently a debt owed to the miners. 
unfortunately, that means that it is unlikely that you will be paid for the hashes you are still contributing to the pool.

If the pool takes this loss, then the pool's financial position is weakened by that loss. 
There was a time when mmpool had a cold wallet and would pay reward shortages out from the cold wallet. 
That hasn't happened this time.  It is growing more and more unlikely.

If the miners share the loss and remove the last block from the pool history, then we have an oversized DGM payout in the next round. 
Again, it is not likely mmpool can pay more than the block reward since mmpool appears to be insolvent now.

If the last block's rewards are paid, then we know mmpool still has reserve funds from the DGM payments.  Confidence will be restored. 

For that reason, I have stopped all mining at mmpool until the last block's rewards are paid. 






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Re: mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor
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ctya
on 20/12/2022, 04:04:57 UTC
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Re: mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor
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ctya
on 15/12/2022, 23:42:15 UTC

Did anybody get a payout from the last round or is it still pending for everyone?
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Re: mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor
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ctya
on 15/12/2022, 19:03:50 UTC
I think he was at 100ph

Up to 180PH/s at times.  Just can't seem to drive it any higher than that no matter how much we rent.

Also the 4.92 showing now is for the current round payout of the top spot.

The top spot payout for that last round ended at 6.13588996 plus the transaction fees for the top miner.
That was a long round and took a lot of rented hash to get it done before the year ended, so not profitable until the luck comes back around.

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Re: mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor
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ctya
on 14/12/2022, 15:52:12 UTC
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Re: mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor
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ctya
on 10/12/2022, 16:53:37 UTC
Am i the only who cannot access to this page ? http://mmpool.org/members

Tried with 3 different browsers same issue, page loading forever

It works fine for me and it is also reachable from website page tests.
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Re: mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor
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ctya
on 14/11/2022, 15:44:16 UTC

Getting really close now
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Re: mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor
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ctya
on 04/12/2021, 03:12:51 UTC
Block found

https://btc.com/btc/block/712479

Happy Holidays

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Re: mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor
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ctya
on 29/11/2021, 19:34:45 UTC
So when I press the "Withdraw" button,
will the mBTC amount be transferred immediately to my registered address?
Or do I have the opportunity to review the planned transaction before it is finally published?


From http://mmpool.org/news

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2021-10-04 ...
... you can request a withdrawal and they'll be processed in approximately 24 hours. Your statistics page will show a list of pending and completed payouts, including transaction id with the payment is released. The pending payout will show the address where the payment will go to. Please check this and if it is not correct, contact the pool admins immediately.

You can contact the pool admins at admin@mmpool.org
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Re: mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor
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ctya
on 18/11/2021, 21:32:37 UTC
Oh hell yeah!

Everything gets paid out at this pool.

It is a hidden gem at this point!