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Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace
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deanpreese66
on 25/03/2015, 14:12:29 UTC
On Windows 8 I get a "bitpayd failed to load" message.  I have tried running as Administrator and no luck. Ideas?
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Re: PotCoin | THE OFFICIAL COIN FOR THE CANNABIS INDUSTRY | Launched 01/21 @ 4:20
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on 19/01/2015, 17:09:18 UTC
You know, its kind of bizarre. I have been both a massive critic and supporter of this coin.

It seems that over the past 60 days or so, the chatter has died and all communication with this board and even Reddit have fizzled out.  I am disheartened with the lack of effort displayed by the group running POT to engage with this board and Reddit on productive dialogue and do what is needed to maintain and grow the overall community. No coin will survive without a grassroots group of supporters that maintain and grow the critical mass of adoption necessary to bring the coin more mainstream.

In my mind there are some simple questions that are a starting point:

Where are the POT developers?   
What are they doing?

and more importantly .....

is this coin dead or not?

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Re: [IPO/PRE-ANN] [XTC] CryptoXTC - X11 | 50M | Exponential Rewards | SuperBlocks
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deanpreese66
on 08/08/2014, 11:55:02 UTC
plz escrow by anon136

Yes, anon136 is quite reliable and has a lot of experience with escrow services.


We are contacting him.

Any updates on the escrow process?
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Re: [IPO/PRE-ANN] [XTC] CryptoXTC - X11 | 50M | Exponential Rewards | SuperBlocks
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deanpreese66
on 07/08/2014, 19:35:59 UTC
This is a friend of mine's coin ... what do we think?
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Re: [ANN] [WACG] WACCOIN GOLD ** NEW POOLS ADDED, NEW NODES ** UPDATED DAILY
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deanpreese66
on 09/07/2014, 18:32:01 UTC
Wallet does not sync

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Download the new wallet from github.  It will sync.

thanks madmartyk for the help! for the wallet to sync download it from https://github.com/waccoin/waccoin-gold/archive/master.zip in release folder youll find the wallet, but if you had the old client please go to Run>%appdata% and with the wallet closed delete WaccoinGold folder, then open the new wallet, add nodes and thats it Smiley



WOW ... a WHOLE lot of hassle !!!!!  I have 20-30 wallets on my system ... should not be this tough.

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Re: [ANN] [WACG] WACCOIN GOLD ** NEW POOLS ADDED, NEW NODES ** UPDATED DAILY
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deanpreese66
on 09/07/2014, 18:05:28 UTC
Wallet does not sync

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Download the new wallet from github.  It will sync.



NOPE  ... in correct or no genesis block found
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Re: [ANN] [WACG] WACCOIN GOLD ** NEW POOLS ADDED, NEW NODES ** UPDATED DAILY
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on 09/07/2014, 17:42:26 UTC
Wallet does not sync

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Re: [ANN][POT] PotCoin Launches Today 01/21 @ 4:20
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deanpreese66
on 09/07/2014, 13:59:38 UTC
RiverRock is an illegal business in the United States, same as all other Colorado marijuana businesses which lack permission from federal authorities.  Tomorrow morning, the US drug enforcement agency can go to Colorado and Washington and start making arrests and seizures.  Only thing stopping them is in the current man in the white house.  Banks won't openly accept marijuana businesses because they know such businesses are currently illegal.

We all need to get down off the ledge. The legalization experiment in Colorado is in its infancy - the outcome is yet to be determined.

Could the DEA storm in, yes. Will they? Only after the experiment has gone obviously wrong and the systems and controls put in place in Colorado are in a state of failure and are ineffective. RiverRock can exist today because the citizens of Colorado have chosen to legalize. And even though the Federal Law is still in place the US Federal Government is not going to cross that bridge and encroach on states rights.

Banks are being held by completely ridiculous standards and expectations of proof and traceability. Standards that do not exist for other highly cash based businesses. In the meantime the experiment needs to play out and prove itself.  Once it proves to be efficient and proves the controls and process can be managed as designed, I can see where things will stabilize and banks will be able to do business with dispensaries like any other business.

 
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Re: [ANN][POT] PotCoin Launches Today 01/21 @ 4:20
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deanpreese66
on 12/06/2014, 22:13:11 UTC
Dean,

   I am chill.  The success or failure of POT is not going to affect me long term.  I'm invested in it, and have been since the beginning, but I'm not going to be a millionaire or lose my home if it shifts either way.

   That being said, I want it to succeed.  I think anyone in this thread can agree with that desire.

   However, I'm not seeing results.  I think a lot of people, yourself included, are blinded by the agenda.  Saying that POT is this great and powerful entity that is doing all these amazing things is kind of off-based.  The whole "never been done before" mantra that keeps popping up is driving me nuts.  People are right, it's never been done... and it still hasn't been done.  Until there are quantifiable results that exceed the hype, I'm going to play the pessimist card.  The business plan, or lack thereof(which you agree with), is the most troubling.  Why is there still not a list of merchants that accept POT?  I don't even know what the hell I can spend POT on.  If I come to this thread for instance, and I've never seen POT before, I would think it was a pump and dump coin.  Lots of pools and exchanges listed, but no mention of what services accept it.  How many people here know that Amagi Metals takes POT as a payment?  The only reason I know is because I frequent their site.  From an outsider's perspective, there is no clear thinking evident here... maybe too much smoke in the air.

   You ask why it's an issue that they collect more money via the fee when they already have the 588k POT in the wallet.  I don't think they should be paid if they aren't producing results.  Apple has billions because they sell billions.  As much as I loathe Apple marketing and products, they earned that money.  If POT becomes extremely successful, I will donate to the dev team again.  Them telling me I have to donate via a 2% fee is a whole other story.  That I have a problem with.

   Mate, my angst isn't towards you.  I'm just getting tired of the fluff.  To me the your post just seemed disjointed.  If that was your intention, as you pointed out, then I apologize for the point by point breakdown.

-Fuse


Cool Brother ... I get it.    There has been a lot of fluff.  In one of the very first things I wrote here, I pleaded for communication and transparency.  That is still lacking and needed.


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Re: [ANN][POT] PotCoin Launches Today 01/21 @ 4:20
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deanpreese66
on 12/06/2014, 18:04:08 UTC
Fuse --

Your parsing my words far to critically.  I said within this that everyone else is talking about adoption ... adoption is obviously slow. So lets look at the other side of the supply and demand equation --  I wanted to look at it differently.  

Additionally -- I never said any of this SHOULD be done ... it is all offered as observations and ideas.



What business plan?  They went to the 420 event to get high and hang out.  Having a true plan would have meant they would have been dressed professionally and had media kits to hand out to vendors.

And this whole approach isn't rare... it's the goal.  Create a currency and have a legitimate use for it.  Fuck, man... take a look at NLG and see what they've succeeded in doing in half the time of POT.  POT has been around for how long now, and it's still working on the broken promise that it will be the industry standard.  There is one dispensary taking the coin, but they aren't even taking it for POT.  Hell, I even asked if there was any incentive to take POT at the dispensary on the 28th, and what happens on the 29th, they offer a 10% discount on merch.  I'm not saying I was the reason for that, but rather that should have been thought of from the get-go.  There is no planning...

I can agree business plan -> yet to be seen.  But if you look at the other coins out there POT seems to be trying to do the right things - that's my point. And Yes, there are a handful coins that have goals for being the next Bitcoin ... or even moreover better and bigger.  My point is that most coins have no goals other than to make devs money. I do not consider POT to be one of those coins.



We just decreased supply, or did you forget what has been going on for the last month?  Do we really need to decrease supply even more?

We did not just decrease supply. We decreased the rate of future supply .... that is a different issue.  The current glut of coins is a component of the current price being low.



Actually, the people here have been talking about adoption.  I just mentioned it.  Hell the dev even said that the reason that they wanted the halving was that there was too many coins and not enough use for them.  I think people have considered adoption as the weak link in the chain for this coin for a long time.

I know people are solely focused on adoption. No doubt adoption is a major weak link.  My point is that adoption by itself, even its its amazing ... will likely never use the coins in circulation.  Which in turn means the coins will likely never achieve a reasonable value




1POT:1$ would mean that the "Foundation" has $588k in the donation wallet.  I don't think they need more unless things seriously start to change with the adoption.

Why is that an issue? Sure -- if it goes to $1 .... I have no issue with  the "Foundation" (using your words) having $588K. The same as I don't have a problem with Apple having billions in cash.  They (POT) took all the risk and therefore can capitalize on the rewards - if/when there are rewards.  I am an investor and interested geek in an experiment.




Wrong.  In the end, it's adoption.  You're contradicting yourself now.  Make up your mind, mate.

Pricing in a free market always boils down to supply and demand.  Adoption is the major component of demand.  But in this case the supply is targeted to be way larger than virtually every other major player.  And unfortunately adoption will likely never be able to use the huge quantity of coins that are being mined. So -- you either accept that price will almost always be low ... or you find ways to pull coins out of the market, increase scarcity couple with stronger adoption this should increase price



1)  POT run or managed POOL - lots of configurations here are a couple - could be a multipool that mines other coins and pays out in POT -- could be a pool with high hashpower that just mines POT for the "company"  In any case it has the opportunity to take coins out of circulation -- decreasing supply.

2)  Buy POT directly from the exchanges to support/increase price.  At the time of this writing -- I could have bought 100% of the volume from Cryptsy for 6.4 BTC -- around $4000 USD  -- its not a huge market. Not that it would make sense but if someone did buy 6.4 BTC -- where would the price be?  If my math is right, that's over 600K coins  and in any case -- it would decrease supply.

3)  Trade POT on the key exchanges ( in the trading world this could be akin to market making )  This activity by itself should stabilize the price and flatten the peaks and valleys. It happens all the time in equity, FOREX and futures markets.

Again... this should have been in the "business plan".  Right now the only plan is "Use POT to buy stuff".

I support ASICs backing the blockchain.  DOGE has a good plan in this respect.

As far as buying POT goes, sure... spend the $4000 on the POT to buy everything on the market.  But what happens after that?  You need constant pressure on the market.  TAG was able to keep the floor at a specific price because the millionaire owner of the coin was keeping it up.  He was actively buying TAG constantly, and still is.  But you need the revenue to do that.


Agree 100% .. was not suggesting a one time buy.  But pointing out that at current price levels it you could provide the support you mention without breaking the bank.




4)  Remember, cryptos almost always carry a "network transaction fee" for sending it around network. So, in concept this is not a new thing.  I am not sure the exact usage of the above stated "tax" but consider this -- an additional fee that is assigned for transaction above a certain threshold, XXX BTC would only impact big pools and pumpers/dumpers that are manipulating the price by buying and selling large volumes. This would cause them to either pay the "tax" of make smaller trades on the exchanges -- smaller trades would be eaten up by the general market and price would swing less.  And if they choose to make the big transactions, rather than fight it directly ,,,, make money from it.

A transaction fee is minimal.  What is it, 0.001-0.01?  And in the end the fees go to the miners that make the transactions happen.  A 2% fee on top of that is absurd.  Until verified, it's not on transactions over a specific threshold, it's a on all blocks.


You are correct -- we don't know the specifics. And I am not fixated on 2% being the number.  I am simply providing one method I see that a fee of this type can work and actually be good for the entire blockchain and coin.  



And again, you're not making sense.  You say that the "foundation" should create a pool or buy up the pot on exchanges.  Then you say big pools and people who manipulate price should be taxed.  So you tax the taxer?  In programming terms, you just found a memory leak.

Again your parsing ...  I am saying people who process big transactions over a specific threshold  "COULD" be taxed and by doing so COULD have a positive result.



Unfortunately -- we here are the geeks (I am part of this group and freely admit it); people in the early adopter bleeding edge of this movement. As a result we nitpick and over think every movement and twitch and in the world of always on, the lack of movement is perceived negatively. 

The average person does not care and never will - they want function.  How many people really care about PayPal fees?  Customers don't because in the end, it just works. This movement, legalization, POT -- its not about the geeks (the minority) -- its about the majority. The majority will make this successful and thrive. That majority just want it to work.

And you're back to adoption.  Man, Dean... that was a rollercoaster.

-Fuse


Yes -- it does bounce back and forth.  Intentionally. Just because this is a crypto that is decentralized and is digital, does not mean the laws if supply and demand are tossed to the side. You can't consider supply without considering its connection to demand.

Fuse .. chill man.  

This is a lot of hostility and angst directed toward me for just putting some ideas and concepts out there.  Within this forum, I have been both critical of the POT folks and positive of the POT folks. I see possibilities, but am not blinded by the shiny object in front of my face.

The world is a very gray place ... very little is black and white. I try and be objective and open to all sides and see positive in all arguments -- even if I do not see things the same way.

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Re: [ANN][POT] PotCoin Launches Today 01/21 @ 4:20
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deanpreese66
on 12/06/2014, 14:28:39 UTC

I'm not concerned about what could be done with 2%, I would just like to know what it's all about.  In my mind it's just a premine after the fact.

-Fuse

I am not going to defend the DEVS -- but I will offer a different perspective.


POT is not just another flash in the pan coin that will be gone in a few months. Its a real team, with a business plan and focus on bricks and mortar usage. This is a VERY unique and unusual thing in the crypto world (most are created by devs whose entire purpose in to pump and dump and walk away) With the zillion other cryptos out there, you can't achieve adoption without focus and business like mentality.

Yes, I agree -- this entire discussion is the equivalent of a premine after the fact -- but with so many in circulation, decreasing supply is not a bad thing.

Coins are a commodity. Real companies that drill for oil or mine gold, do all they can do to manage and hedge the price. And do what ever they can do to make more money.  We all would like to see POT at a higher price and we all would like to see more adoption -- I believe adoption and price are connected much tighter than most consider. 

Meaning -- if POT was valued at even $1 USD... the payment structure simplifies and it takes fewer fragmented transactions to actually purchase something, which means easier processing for vendors and customers. Moreover, perception changes.  POT would be seen as viable ...  1-to-1 for real dollars and usable for real transactions.

In the end its supply n demand.  Right now there is too much supply.  Most people here only focus on on the demand side- so lets talk on the supply side. I think you have to ask yourself the question --- "If this was my business and I wanted to manage and control supply - how do I accomplish that?"

1)  POT run or managed POOL - lots of configurations here are a couple - could be a multipool that mines other coins and pays out in POT -- could be a pool with high hashpower that just mines POT for the "company"  In any case it has the opportunity to take coins out of circulation -- decreasing supply.

2)  Buy POT directly from the exchanges to support/increase price.  At the time of this writing -- I could have bought 100% of the volume from Cryptsy for 6.4 BTC -- around $4000 USD  -- its not a huge market. Not that it would make sense but if someone did buy 6.4 BTC -- where would the price be?  If my math is right, that's over 600K coins  and in any case -- it would decrease supply.

3)  Trade POT on the key exchanges ( in the trading world this could be akin to market making )  This activity by itself should stabilize the price and flatten the peaks and valleys. It happens all the time in equity, FOREX and futures markets.

4)  Remember, cryptos almost always carry a "network transaction fee" for sending it around network. So, in concept this is not a new thing.  I am not sure the exact usage of the above stated "tax" but consider this -- an additional fee that is assigned for transaction above a certain threshold, XXX BTC would only impact big pools and pumpers/dumpers that are manipulating the price by buying and selling large volumes. This would cause them to either pay the "tax" of make smaller trades on the exchanges -- smaller trades would be eaten up by the general market and price would swing less.  And if they choose to make the big transactions, rather than fight it directly ,,,, make money from it.


Unfortunately -- we here are the geeks (I am part of this group and freely admit it); people in the early adopter bleeding edge of this movement. As a result we nitpick and over think every movement and twitch and in the world of always on, the lack of movement is perceived negatively. 

The average person does not care and never will - they want function.  How many people really care about PayPal fees?  Customers don't because in the end, it just works. This movement, legalization, POT -- its not about the geeks (the minority) -- its about the majority. The majority will make this successful and thrive. That majority just want it to work.

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Re: [ANN][POT] PotCoin Launches Today 01/21 @ 4:20
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on 06/06/2014, 14:43:40 UTC
The price of the coin does not matter so much, at least not so much to me. Bought 70k at 717 a week ago, which was a bargain then. The most important thing to me is the stability, which the coin seems to have. The market will dictate the price. The more and more the coin gets out there, the more it pops up in places and shows face among the huge network of merchants that sell everything under the sun relating to either marijuana or tobacco products, the better off the coin will do.

Big money big money no whammy no whammy, STOP!


1000% Agree .. stability is important. That said, IMO there is a line of perception; coins that are below 1000 are on shaky ground and are not as trust worthy.  I think that needs to be a target for stability -- then move it higher over time

I agree that network stability is paramount, followed by price stability, and that in a transactional/flow coin the price isn't as important--but you have to keep in mind that stability comes from hashrate, and price matters to those mining it. If it's not profitable or worthwhile, you lose portions of the network, and a flux in the network can cause volatility in price.

As has been discussed many times, any serious business coin should have its own private farm to always ensure a certain amount of hashrate is securing and processing the blockchain, and it's usually a farm owned or supported by the coin's owners.


When I point to stability, I do not mean a flat no movement price. I mean a controlled price that can oscillate up and down with some significant swings, but does so in an efficient manner. The huge swings we have seen are because of an inefficient and lopsided market where the bid/ask spreads are huge and the volumes at certain prices are not enough to support the market.

Volatility can be a good thing and is an incentive to miners and trading. Volatility also provides opportunity for people get into POT at fluctuating prices which sparks interest and ultimately growth.

In free markets ... VOLATILITY => SIZZLE => Interest => Adoption  

The key in any of these measure is can you control VOLATILITY ... I think yes.

A farm and/or pool is a great start.

I would also recommend BOTs.  (DISCLOSURE: I have been an algorithmic trading systems developer for over 20 years and have made my living do so for the past 5+) Development and deployment of trading BOTs can provide a controlled mechanism for the "Company" to buy/sell POT in the open market. This serves a couple purposes:

1)  This can reduce the available coins, create scarcity and in the end, ideally support and boost the price. No different than any other buyback.
2)  Create volume and liquidity on the exchanges. Coins are like momentum stocks (APPL, NFLX, GOOG) and penny stocks (think Wolf of Wall Street) -- Baskin Robbins Flavor of the Month.  The ones that trade a lot of volume and have some oscillating price moves get attention.


Those are my thoughts ....


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Re: [ANN][POT] PotCoin Launches Today 01/21 @ 4:20
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deanpreese66
on 06/06/2014, 11:45:33 UTC
The price of the coin does not matter so much, at least not so much to me. Bought 70k at 717 a week ago, which was a bargain then. The most important thing to me is the stability, which the coin seems to have. The market will dictate the price. The more and more the coin gets out there, the more it pops up in places and shows face among the huge network of merchants that sell everything under the sun relating to either marijuana or tobacco products, the better off the coin will do.

Big money big money no whammy no whammy, STOP!


1000% Agree .. stability is important. That said, IMO there is a line of perception; coins that are below 1000 are on shaky ground and are not as trust worthy.  I think that needs to be a target for stability -- then move it higher over time
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Re: [ANN][POT] PotCoin Launches Today 01/21 @ 4:20
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deanpreese66
on 03/06/2014, 13:40:20 UTC
Be berry berry quiet .... we're hunting POT !!!
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A Vote of confidece for POT
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deanpreese66
on 31/05/2014, 16:57:37 UTC
As I have been one of the more vocal critics here and on Reddit, and still a supporter and holder of LOTs of POT, I thought this follow up made sense.

I had the pleasure of talking to Nick Iversen recently the man leading POT. Nick and I talked for quite a while about a lot of various topics and issues. All of which have been raised and questioned here and on Reddit.  (I think we hit most if not all the general concerns)

I admit, prior to our discussion, I was skeptical of the entire process and direction of POT. In the end, my overall impression is that Nick and the growing POT team, has changed 180 degrees. Nick is a genuinely good guy trying to make the right decisions on the fly in a business that does not really exist today.  We have to see things for what they are.

So - I am taking a step back and resetting my own mindset - and tossing this out to the community.

First -- as a community, lets have some patience:
POT has achieved some fantastic success - probably more real world brick and mortar success than many coins could ever hope.  We can't lose sight of that.  And having been in companies that were in the start-up/fund raising mode, you can never count your money or even actions that are promised until things are signed and delivered. I am not saying that communication is perfect - it still needs work. But we all need to be a bit more patient with allowing press releases to flow out as they are official.

As I said the other day here ... they are making incremental changes on transparency and communication - I am sure there are more on the horizon. Believe me, if things get stagnant again ... I would be the first to criticize. But ofr now a bit of patience.


Second -- Lets be part of the solution
There is a long road ahead for success. I can say the vision feels quite focused and clear and they are working hard to share what is able. We as a community need to make our minds up, there are only two reasons to be involved in POT:

1)  You believe in the long term vision and goal and see it as an investment.
If this is you, join and become part of the solution.  Offer both problems/issues but also offer ideas for solutions.  Engage and find ways we can help the community grow and find ways to individually help.  We can all have civil dialogue - complaining about problems without offering solutions is not fair to anyone and not helping POT of the community.

2)  You are simply a trader that expects a quick buck
Go for it.  But don't complain about coin prices. The focus of POT is not coin price. its about adoption and frankly, solid adoption will always trump the other factors that affect coin price.


The two are not mutually exclusive -  you can be both.  But you need to clearly understand what your dominant view is, and set your mindset accordingly. 
 

Perfect the world is ....NOT !

There is lots to be confident in regarding POT ... remember, it is a green field start-up in a business that has never been attempted -- its a tough road at best. Mistakes will be made ... we can either help or throw stones .... I would rather be part of the solution.




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Re: [ANN][POT] PotCoin Launches Today 01/21 @ 4:20
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on 29/05/2014, 23:07:46 UTC
But that is my point...it was discussed on reddit and the dev ignored the naysayers. They just decided to halve the coin. Outrage ensued and they stepped back to actually listen. Or atleast they pretended to listen because they ended up doing the same thing anyway.

The 840k block has always existed but it doesn't make any sense which is why I disregard it. At 840k blocks and 420 coins per block, thats 352 million coins which is more than 75% of the supply.  So either it was always intended to halve the coin repeatedly in a short span (i.e. 4 times in a year) or the halving strategy was never set in stone and 840k block was just an estimate

Exactly... they pretended to listen and pushed on regardless.  The fact that they said "we're running a poll" and "we're testing the wallet changes" in the basically the same breath shows that.  We're on the same page about that.  The poll just gave them the results they already knew they had because of the outcry of halving support from reddit.

The 840k block was a ways off... true, but it was there.  I'm sure a lot of people would agree that the halving could have been so many other things than what it ended up being.  I still wish they would have considered a continual small percentage decrease over time.  But oh well... what's done is done.

-Fuse


The reality as I see it now ---  

1) The model seem to be this  ... create a company, piggy back on crypto/Bitcoin craze, mask it as open source community driven, but never really engage with the very people who can make or break the product. Could it be called a scam?  Not really. But lets call a spade a spade and see it for what it is.
2) Screaming loud does not work ---I personally have tried to make points over and over (both here and on Reddit) ..... without much response or even acknowledgement from people in charge of POT
3) POT may be the last man standing in the CCN/DOPE/POT crypto battle -- which I hope is true.
4) POT may become successful beyond what we believe can could ever happen -- which I hope is true.
5) POT will likely never have a vibrant true community - one where developers, maintainers, marketers and community members all have opportunity to discuss an debate how the coin moves forward and how we can collectively help it grow.

ATMs are cool ... but crypto currencies are mostly a techie thing.  Yes, virtually everyone you talk to has heard of Bitcoin ... outside of your immediate techie friends. how many people that you know actually own any? My guess is very few.  Now how can we expect POT to be any better?  We cant -- but we can expect that strong community, transparency and communication - the viral effect - will offset more than we can give credit.

I will admit - they are trying to make progress, but too slow and too veiled in secrecy and it baffles me.  .. its not rocket science.  --- IMO without a full court press (using a basketball term)  on the social media/community side -- I unfortunately think the future of POT is limited.

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Re: [ANN][POT] PotCoin Launches Today 01/21 @ 4:20
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deanpreese66
on 29/05/2014, 12:36:05 UTC
Unlike the haters I actually made a suggestion many months ago about how to best use this coin.  You seem to prefer to keep your heads int he sand "oh it's called potcoin it MUST be good".  I'm sure you've read and understand my post so I'll not bother bringing it up again.  You seem to know sooo much. 

Go ahead and ignore me if you don't like what I say.  It's the link labeled "IGNORE" on the left under my name.  



There have been many suggestions made and offers to help ... it seems many are ignored.  Really builds strength of community ... Right??

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Re: [ANN][POT] PotCoin Launches Today 01/21 @ 4:20
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deanpreese66
on 13/05/2014, 20:55:44 UTC

I think there is good reason to freak out a bit.  

Right now this coin is on the edge...

I don't think so. Potcoin looks to be in the lead when it comes to partnering with the legal cannabis trade, that hasn't changed in the last few days. I get tired of seeing posters act like they want developers to act like counselors too and post here every few hours just to re-assure people, it's kinda sad  Cry



For the record ... I have been investing/trading in virtually every market, Stock, commodity, Futures, FOREX... for over 20 years. I also own my own software/web development company that specializes in writing algorithms that trade the aforementioned markets. A rookie I am not. This is not about needing emotional support; for me at least, its not about coin price. In fact if you notice in all my references and posts ... I have never mentioned price.  


So please be careful parsing my statements and choosing what to hear. While I hope POT still has a future and a bright future, my concerns are not about price in the least. As a result I still own a chunk (and will continue to hold until it becomes valuable or goes to zero). My points are related to clarity,  communication and adoption. The folks running POT are not very transparent and forth coming with information when questions are asked and are not very responsive to criticism or even suggestion.

So the question is ... how is POT being run?

There are two base models I see that POT (or any project like this) can be run, and successfully run ...

1)  As a business -- all control, PR and effort is dictated by the people in charge of POT.    This can work if the pockets are deep enough to support developing , marketing and PR efforts.  In the end its just software and there are countless examples of how to run a software company.  Think Microsoft.

2)  Partner with the community -- final decisions are made by the controlling interest but are made based on a solid clear communication and feedback from the community of supporters and users.  Think Wordpress, or virtually any strong open source project.


I work under the assumption that POT wants to partner with and build the community.  And I choose to become part of the community dialogue and try to offer criticism as well as solutions.  No one has all the right answers, however, with a strong community, POT stands a much better chance at widespread success.  


If in reality, POT is trying to operate under the "as a business" model ... then I will personally rethink my stance.  But we have been given no indication of how POT is operating. Again ... communication and transparency.




1st.  Community is first always, this coin was built on a good fun loving community and we want to continue to build a positive relationship with everyone.
We do want the everyone to participate how they can and offer help by creating tools for the community and if we can help out, let us know via email.

2nd. We want to be more transparent and have the communities input when making choices that will effect both miners and regular users.  Since the community seems to be split on the Halving of the coin, i think its fair to do a POLL that will go out to the WHOLE community, all social networks and everyone can get a chance to voice their opinion. Our main concern was that the coin was going to be finish mining in a little more than 1 year and that we wanted to extend the mining life of the coin since we are thinking long term.

3rd We believe adoptions is the number 1 priority and we have been working on it by:
  
a.  Potcoin king Calling dispensaries for the last 2 months and entering all the leads into our CRM and we are getting new people in montreal to call also.
b.  Going to denver for Cannabis cup and 4.20 to meet as many companies as possible and promote potcoin.
c.  Creating strategic partnerships with the TOP dispensaries in Colorado - We Met with River rock - medicine man - live well.  We are now working with river rock to place our ATM's and making a marketing plan to give away 100,000 via paper wallets and cards. We believe they will be leaders in their industry and that others will follow once they see River Rock accepting Potcoins and giving them away to clients.
d. We have a potcoin team member living in named Russell Denver that will be working with dispensaries to help them integrate potcoin into their daily transactions.

4th. We are all working together to make this coin a success, but everyone needs to their part in helping out and mainly staying positive even when things are not the best. With anything in life there are ups and downs but we just need to keep working together and getting the word of potcoin out. I'm all for constructive criticisms and listening to the community, deanpresse66 has some very good point and this is the type or response we like to get.

5th. Traveling for 1 month between NYC and Denver caused me to focus on what was at hand and meetings with dispensaries and not being able to tend to the online community as much as before and im very sorry for the lack of communication while we where traveling in the USA.  I have since gotten a DENVER CELL phone with A data plan allowing me to work and communicate better while traveling.  

6th. We understand that we need to communicate more efficiently and we have decided to add an OFFICIAL BLOG on the potcoin website that we will post all news from now on. From there we will go to all the social media outlets and post the link to the blog with our official statements. We are also looking at doing this weekly so that everyone knows that Potcoin Update News comes out once week on FRIDAYS.

7th. We know we have lots of work ahead and we have lots of great ideas and projects in the pipeline but we need to focus on what communities needs are now. We want to release a timeline of things we would like to do and ideas and get feedback from the community and what they feel is important so that we can make a list of priorities chosen by everyone.

8th. The potcoin network is releasing coins at rate of approx 600k to 900k and since jan 21 st we have created over 100 million coins and there is only approx 1 year left of mining left.  We feel that we need to extend the life of the coin, but we do not want to extend the block time since this will be used for daily transactions that need to be confirmed quickly. We are open to suggestions and we would like to hear your solutions to extended the life of mining the coin.

9th. Coinwarz lists Potcoin as profitable and that means multipools will still be wanting to mine our coins then dumping them.. not the best for the price
We are also concerned about ASIC's coming out and the recent time warp attack on the KGW, we would also like to hear about your ideas and solutions from the community members.

10th. The best way to contact the Potcoin team is to email us at dev@potcoin.info or smokemon@potcoin.info or call 1.844.Pot.Coin and if i dont pick up leave a message and i will get an email with your voice mail.  Please give 24 - 48 hours for a response.  

Sincerely Smokemon and The Potcoin Team


  



Great Response ... Thank You for outlining things

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Re: [ANN][POT] PotCoin Launches Today 01/21 @ 4:20
by
deanpreese66
on 13/05/2014, 18:25:27 UTC

I think there is good reason to freak out a bit.  

Right now this coin is on the edge...

I don't think so. Potcoin looks to be in the lead when it comes to partnering with the legal cannabis trade, that hasn't changed in the last few days. I get tired of seeing posters act like they want developers to act like counselors too and post here every few hours just to re-assure people, it's kinda sad  Cry



For the record ... I have been investing/trading in virtually every market, Stock, commodity, Futures, FOREX... for over 20 years. I also own my own software/web development company that specializes in writing algorithms that trade the aforementioned markets. A rookie I am not. This is not about needing emotional support; for me at least, its not about coin price. In fact if you notice in all my references and posts ... I have never mentioned price. 


So please be careful parsing my statements and choosing what to hear. While I hope POT still has a future and a bright future, my concerns are not about price in the least. As a result I still own a chunk (and will continue to hold until it becomes valuable or goes to zero). My points are related to clarity,  communication and adoption. The folks running POT are not very transparent and forth coming with information when questions are asked and are not very responsive to criticism or even suggestion.

So the question is ... how is POT being run?

There are two base models I see that POT (or any project like this) can be run, and successfully run ...

1)  As a business -- all control, PR and effort is dictated by the people in charge of POT.    This can work if the pockets are deep enough to support developing , marketing and PR efforts.  In the end its just software and there are countless examples of how to run a software company.  Think Microsoft.

2)  Partner with the community -- final decisions are made by the controlling interest but are made based on a solid clear communication and feedback from the community of supporters and users.  Think Wordpress, or virtually any strong open source project.


I work under the assumption that POT wants to partner with and build the community.  And I choose to become part of the community dialogue and try to offer criticism as well as solutions.  No one has all the right answers, however, with a strong community, POT stands a much better chance at widespread success. 


If in reality, POT is trying to operate under the "as a business" model ... then I will personally rethink my stance.  But we have been given no indication of how POT is operating. Again ... communication and transparency.





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Re: [ANN][POT] PotCoin Launches Today 01/21 @ 4:20
by
deanpreese66
on 13/05/2014, 16:00:36 UTC
Tell me why its a bad idea.  


They are halving the coin because it needs to be done. All 420 million coins mined in a year of existence is too fast.

With respect, can you scientifically and mathematically prove 'why it needs to be done'. Use references from the past 2 year's worth of currency data, and especially cross-reference coins which have changed rewards, including the ones which survived and the ones which didn't, and show correlation as to their end result.

Because it doesn't "need" to be done. Whether you're at maturity now, next week, or 5 years from now, there's one constant: no use for the coin.



You can't prove it scientifically or mathematically with reference to other coins because it's apples and oranges.   Almost every coin including bitcoin and litecoin have halving schedules that were coded in from the genesis block.    Potcoin's block reward schedule was flawed at its creation.  Show me a coin that is all mined out that isn't proof of stake.   Halving the coin is about giving us more time for adoption so there are uses for the coin by the time its all mined out.  The only other alternative I can think of is to increase the total coin supply and implement proof of stake so people holding up until now can retain their positions.  Either way, the mining phase must be extended or it's toast.



The unfortunate reality is that we are having this conversation. This conversation should have never had to happen.

The block time is 40 seconds ... who thought that was a good idea -- its one of the shortest out there.
420,000,000 coins ... again .... who thought that was a good idea 00 one of the largest out there.

420,000,000 coins is more than LTC, DRK and VTC    -- all of which I find pretty solid and reputable -- POT is larger than all of them combined !!!!   So lots of bad choices were made at the beginning for sake of novelty and the use of 420 ??  At this point water long under the bridge.  

How does it get back on track ..... and can it get back on track?  There are a finite set of possibilities and options.

IDEAS:
  • Increase blocktime to 80 seconds   2x
    Halve the reward  to  210
    Get radical change the reward to 42 instead of 420
    Do some combniation of the above

Some of the above will deter the miners a bit. That's OK .... slow things down a bit. In the end .. adoption is EVERYTHING .... miners and trading is not the end game we need to be playing.  But in order to keep playing, and in order to provide time for adoption, the coin has to serve miners too and give hope for it growing into what it hope to be.

NOW-- DEVS need to listen up

You can continue down this path of dictating direction and policy; you can continue to put out ideas that never materialize; you can continue to OWN this coin and try to control its every wish.  Go for it !!!  If you do, I bet my life savings, it will fail and fail quickly.

Crypto lives and breathes based on Communication, Transparency and Community ..... the community can as easily burn it to the ground with words and bad PR as it can take it to the moon with words and great PR.