It only worked cause people imagine it will speed up the marketcap process and not drag on like bitcoin over 4-5years. They want it all and they want it now. They all did get fucked right now.
Josh is quite busy removing comments there. But keep them coming.
And... It's gone. Already removed.
Beat me to it. The comments section disappeared before the whole campaign did.
Yeah, the campaign is gone. Good work everyone. I think a report that mentions and links to the SEC investigation is the best thing to do in a case like that.
I'm eagerly awaiting the inevitable thread decrying the efforts of the 'trolls' to stop 'legitimate' efforts to spread the paycoin fraud far and wide. TCinCommand (the dipshit who moderates those 'calls') asked for input on how to 'bring new blood' to the Paycoin community (ponzi much?) - and I'm sure this is one such effort to try to draw in new victims. We need to be vigilant and stop any leakage of this fraud to new people. It's bad enough we all got defrauded, it's vitally important to ensure this ends without any more damage being created. If it means we are 'the bad guys' to the Paycoin community, so be it. They need to ask themselves if they would have liked to have been warned before they got involved and presented with incontrovertible evidence of fraud - and to a person, if they are fair with themselves, they'd agree that they'd have wanted to be warned.
This campaign fails to mention that Paycoin is nothing more the a pre-mined crypto failure (it has no benefits over Bitcoin, as stated in the campaign) - and the company that developed the coin is under SEC, DHS and IRS investigation for fraud, selling unlicensed securities, failure to follow AML/KYC guidelines among it's many failures. Anyone investing in this project runs an extreme risk of complete forfeiture of their funds to the agencies investigating currently. This is a very, very poor risk for investors and should be removed immediately, along with any other campaign that proposes to involve Paycoin.
who ever had been keeping a muzzle on Josh has left the building and he's doing one hell of a job keeping this Reality Show going
I don't quite subscribe to the rest of you tinfoil theory but it's fairly obvious that Josh hasn't had any legal help for quite a while and his doctor may have quit too (or pharmacies in Dubai don't carry the chemicals needed to keep his lid on).
Doing a rough check on the stake rate it was 10.9% on 4/15 and on 4/27 (The last full day available) it is right @ 15%. These numbers are derived from a whole days stake. This address is not on Mugglick's list.
Also, I just checked the address given as payment for the PYC devs, and it shows only 1 payment. Not to say they could not have received payment in other addresses or even in BTC, etc, although I find it unlikely Homero would pay them in anything other than his free Monopoly Money. Paying them in XPY guarantees that they will be actively shilling the coin, especially when it is in installments.
The address given happens to be a Bittrex address: PNubeGQTMcDCUqj3AQ25jdMd7sD68CiHzv https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?PNubeGQTMcDCUqj3AQ25jdMd7sD68CiHzv.htm
Not sure what to think about the XPY sitting there until 3/7. Might just have not been added to the main wallet? Hard to believe these guys would be so naive as to not cash that in when it was worth $10+ per XPY.
10 and 15% stake rate on 1,200 coins? Is that from the wallet only being online/staking on certain days?
No, there are ~148,000 coins in the top address. The bottom address is the ~1,200 XPY down payment to the PYC devs.
On 4/27 there were exactly 60 XPY staked on 148,589 coins at the start of the day, which is ~14.9%/year
P.S: I chose days where there was a full days stake the day before to try to eliminate a delayed payout from the day before being added to the day I was checking. I am going to try checking say 10 full days stake to see what that comes up with, but it looks like this address is staking at at least 10%.
Perhaps it's the devs 'testing' Orion 'controllers' LULZ
No premine, we'll mine for our coins just like everyone else" - lie Hashlets will "Never expire and always be profitable" - lie Valutbreakers - lie Prime Hashlets will be able to mine SHA-256 - lie Prime Hashlets will be the only ones mining XPY PoW phase - lie HashBase - lie AmpStore is coming soon - lie Hybrid-thermal-rubber-rabbit-flux-chain BTC2 capabilities - lie Orion nodes with higher payouts - lie Paybase debit card - lie Paybase Amazon, WallMart and co - lie Paybase BillPay - lie Paybase thousands of merchants on board - lie XPY $20 floor - lie World leading coin development team hired - lie CAF (Coin Adoption Fund) - lie $100 Million Fiat reserve - lie We're moving the market - lie GAW "bought" BTC.com for $1 Million dollar - lie GAW bought ZenCloud for $8 Million dollar - lie We'll destroy all the test coins once we've finished debugging - lie premier accounts on paybase will go out in a week - lie hundreds of coinstand invites are going out in the next few hours - lie Honor program will buy back coins at 20$ - lie Prime Hashlets will no longer be sold after a certain date - lie Paybase is here to stay - lie Thousands of coinstand invites are going out this week - lie GAW is not dumping any XPY on exchanges - lie Remember Legendarys limited to 500 - LIE Vegas Legendarys only given to those attending Vegas - LIE Vegas Legendarys will be the rarest of Legendarys - LIE Holloween legendarys will be able to combine into something special - LIE Staker Legendarys will only be limited to 100 - LIE all Legendarys converted to Stakers will keep their Legendary status - LIE all legendarys converted to Stakers will get extra abilities - LIE Coinstand is a large merchant that will value paycoin at $20 - LIE
GAW hosted miners - LIE (the hashpower was leased from CHN and pushed to various proxies and parted out to simulate the hashrate of physical miners that were sold ('seeds, falcons, war machines, etc.)
The 100% stake rate is just one small step in the right direction (Re: solving the hyperinflation issue) but there is still much more to be done in regard to keeping such dumping from happening from Prime Controllers.
The purpose of the Prime Controllers were/is to create opportunities for investors and to be used to support bidding along with providing supporting business models with advantages/incentives for bringing new customers into the industry.
Hey Hayseed - not two pages ago you called me out for cherry-picking your comments to make my points.
I corrected that - and I'm waiting for you to address ALL of my points - or is this just about you trying to promote yourself as some kind of XPY messiah hell-bent on righting the wrongs you participated in creating?
There are no baby steps that are going to solve anything here - only jackhammers and nuclear weapons. Your new bosses have their hyperstaking money printing machines now and the kool-aid drinkers are applauding the 250% inflation decrease - but you know damn well that isn't sustainable, yet you applaud it as a necessary 'small step'?
People are redeemed by taking bold action (or inaction as the case may be) to tell the truth about complicity. Not only are you lying to us now, but you're helping this drama continue by your actions, and you seek redemption?
Given the opportunity by XPY Dev and the Paycoin Foundation to become a volunteer for XPYTrust was the least I could do to help the community and be a part of building the currency as originally intended. I thought I could begin to help those that lost so much during my time at GAW. My proposal to the Foundation and XPYDev will consist of a large coin burn along with ending the hyperinflation (which is not exactly what the white paper describes Paycoin to be but I feel it is necessary at this point).
Your 'efforts' will not help anyone. Wake up Joe - the reality is that you are helping the devils chosen to their rewards... nothing else. There is no redemption for the coin, the lost investments or anything else without liquidity - and your efforts do NOT address that issue. Period.
I will say this once again. I do not own anything (Paycoin or Prime Controllers). Hopefully this is clear. I never owned a Prime Controller. I never owned a single Paycoin (or a fraction of it). I was part of the team that worked on the Paycoin project. I was promised Paycoin among other things but never received any compensation/assets besides my salary while working at GAW (which I assume you have all seen by now).
You were negotiating with Homoro for PC's in your wrongful termination lawsuit, Joe - we have those emails. Just because you didn't have enough of a case to grab them from Homero's greedy fingers doesn't absolve you of your attempt to control one or more of them on your own. Further, you were not 'part of the team' - you were the CTO of GAW - the technology (or lack thereof) produced by GAW is on you.
This is not about what you own at this point - this is about what you do once the fraud is revealed to you. You know everything there is to know at this point about this just like everyone else, and you ARE STILL INVOLVED. Pay, no pay, you are still dragging this on by helping the lesser of the greedy fuckholes continue this project. Resign.
Please read my whole post before responding (instead of avoiding to quote my plan to either revive the coin or give up my position).
Are you saying that I neglected to comment on the part about you aspiring to redemption by posing a plan to burn the PC coins and stake therefrom? Fair enough:
If you think the Foundation or anyone else is going to approve your code to burn the PC coins and controllers, you have learned nothing about the situation you are in sir. Your naivete is galling and frankly childish. Further, sir, you are working for people who have NO RIGHT to be making decisions for anyone in the community. What/who gave them their entitlement to enact anything on behalf of Paycoin? It can be strongly argued Homoro Garbanzo did - so it's fine by you that the criminal you left for 'ethical' reasons handed the PC's over to the new, greedy criminals you work for and that gives them entitlement? WTF are you thinking?
Anything you do PERPETUATES this situation - allows for more people to be drawn into this shitstorm.
And before you fire back that @huey and @sciborg and others haven't been proven to be criminals or intending to do further harm, check yourself. You would have said the same thing about your former employer a few months ago, Joe. Their first move, had they been good actors in all of this would have been to ELIMINATE the PC's and/or the stake UNTIL their efforts had provided liquidity for the COMMUNITY of harmed investors - NOT themselves. That would have been the first, necessary step in doing ANYTHING to remove the stench from this project. Because they did not to this, their intentions are clearly not in sync with the interests of the people in the community.
I will say this once again. I do not own anything (Paycoin or Prime Controllers). Hopefully this is clear. I never owned a Prime Controller. I never owned a single Paycoin (or a fraction of it). I was part of the team that worked on the Paycoin project. I was promised Paycoin among other things but never received any compensation/assets besides my salary while working at GAW (which I assume you have all seen by now).
You were negotiating with Homoro for PC's in your wrongful termination lawsuit, Joe - we have those emails. Just because you didn't have enough of a case to grab them from Homero's greedy fingers doesn't absolve you of your attempt to control one or more of them on your own. Further, you were not 'part of the team' - you were the CTO of GAW - the technology (or lack thereof) produced by GAW is on you.
This is not about what you own at this point - this is about what you do once the fraud is revealed to you. You know everything there is to know at this point about this just like everyone else, and you ARE STILL INVOLVED. Pay, no pay, you are still dragging this on by helping the lesser of the greedy fuckholes continue this project. Resign.
Yeah, looks like a dirty muggle alright. He is in a filthy garage where he works for a living, possibly even contributes something to society. Do I even need to mention his style, or lack thereof? Get some proper vests or please kill yourself. Disgusting.
> Sorry about that. I now understand the scope of the situation. > > If it was anyone but Dan I would not have. But now I see what your saying= . > Thanks for letting me know this way. > > -- > > *Joe Mordica* > *CTO* > GAW > 280 North Main Street, Suite 2 > East Longmeadow, MA 01028 > > Anywhere: 601-602-5061 > Fax: 413-206-7101 > joe@gawlabs.com > > www.gawlabs.com > > On Jul 26, 2014, at 9:12, Josh Garza wrote: > > I did, but I never told you to tell him. > > Things are fine, but I want you to know for the future. Disclosing > confidential information, even to another staff, is in breach of our > confidentiality. Do yourself a favor and just to don't talk to anyone wi= th > out specific direction from me to do so. I don't want to have an issue :) > On Jul 26, 2014 10:05 AM, "Joe Mordica" wrote: > >> Yes sir. He said you wanted him involved enough to run it. >> >> Is this correct? >> >> -- >> >> *Joe Mordica* >> *CTO* >> GAW >> 280 North Main Street, Suite 2 >> East Longmeadow, MA 01028 >> >> Anywhere: 601-602-5061 >> Fax: 413-206-7101 >> joe@gawlabs.com >> >> www.gawlabs.com >> >> On Jul 26, 2014, at 9:02, Josh Garza wrote: >> >> He said you explained to him how zenminer works?
And Dan is the one who dropped this H-Bomb... so Homero was probably smart to ask Joe not to disclose the inner scamminess... but that's history now.
Can I please get a URL for the full monty to review all of the disclosures? Is anyone hosting the full archive?
Someone needs to wake up the GAWTards with the new information this morning. I'm all banned out... but links to the appropriate materials about serial, automated dumping would be a good start to the day today. Can anyone assist?
I don't know why, but that one address just makes me happy. This whole time all of Revere's intricate analysis was predicated on a hypothesis that hadn't really been proven. Because of exchange mixing, it could have been a whole ecosystem unrelated to GAW/Garza.
Now, with that PAjU... address being specifically identified as a source for dumping, all of that work means something. It's all real.
I have to admit, I thought you were barking up the wrong tree. Turns out you were right. Very right.
Cheers, bro.
This is truly THE bullet buried in the body of the XPY community - with blockchain certainty attached to the murder.
So where one would hold paycoins now? At paycoin.com? I have some from faucets there Tried to download a wallet to my pc but it does not work, some checkpoint errors and does not download full blockchain. Not that I would care much, but just wanted to see how it works compared to bitcoin. And it doesn't work a shit!