They did not actually send back the bitcoin yet as they said they would. Also sending back to the exchange would not guarantee a return of funds to me. This would be like if I sent an envelope of cash to a bank branch that I knew you took cash out from.

Thanks, I don’t need help or anyone to believe me. I just care about having both sides, people may decide for themselves, but I also have the backing of a neutral third party in SBR to back up most of what I’m saying. Regardless of the data, just on the facts available presented by Fairlay or the information given to SBR by Fairlay, there’s plenty of information to base your own opinions and judgments on. My points stand strong alone, but especially in context of that information. Anyways, I’m just posting for the longevity and not letting their side be the only one spoken.

I want to write a final bit to point out what eventually most people who care should see, and I don’t want Fairlay to be fully excused for handling this terribly from the beginning:

#1) I asked them to return my funds to any address that it had been deposited from, I asked that and it had been suggested by everyone here and SBR for the last 6 weeks, to do this now while pretending they did nothing wrong is absurd

#2) they still never provided any information in terms of what I was accused of or who the third party was. They seem to continue to leak information without giving me any further insight, compromising security of my transactions to an unknown third party

#3) given that they still have not provided me any additional information, their comment that I was “unable to rebut” their assumption is false bc they never even gave me an opportunity. I was also never presented with any evidence

#4) there’s still no evidence that a law enforcement agency was involved, especially given the fact that all my information was handed out to a troll box, to SBR and to a third party

#5) it’s hypocritical that Fairlay has asked me in their emails to not disclose anything in public when they are not even guaranteeing a safe return of my funds to me, and that they are providing false information to the public to clear their name and save face (primarily that I wasn’t able to rebut anything. They asked for a phone number to reach me and when I gave that they did not call me, nor provide any further detail).

#6) didn’t they claim that I have no access to an exchange, and if my funds are of questionable origin, how do they know that they are returning to an exchange? And if it’s an exchange how is it a questionable origin?

#7) for them to give further information and further complicating me securing funds to other parties that may not be true is not their place

#8) I was just asked a few days ago about my identity and other personal details, so how could they even have been so sure that this third party had the right person..

Whether you believe me or not, the above is based on facts and logic. Even SBR has confirmed a lot of what I have complained about, including the fact that no information was given to me.

In my opinion this is no real solution for me as the customer, and it’s also not absolved them of their wrongdoings themselves, including potentially disclosing details on a supposed law enforcement investigation

I want to write a final bit to point out what eventually most people who care should see, and I don’t want Fairlay to be fully excused for handling this terribly from the beginning:

#1) I asked them to return my funds to any address that it had been deposited from, I asked that and it had been suggested by everyone here and SBR for the last 6 weeks, to do this now while pretending they did nothing wrong is absurd

#2) they still never provided any information in terms of what I was accused of or who the third party was. They seem to continue to leak information without giving me any further insight, compromising security of my transactions to an unknown third party

#3) given that they still have not provided me any additional information, their comment that I was “unable to rebut” their assumption is false bc they never even gave me an opportunity. I was also never presented with any evidence

#4) there’s still no evidence that a law enforcement agency was involved, especially given the fact that all my information was handed out to a troll box, to SBR and to a third party

#5) it’s hypocritical that Fairlay has asked me in their emails to not disclose anything in public when they are not even guaranteeing a safe return of my funds to me, and that they are providing false information to the public to clear their name and save face (primarily that I wasn’t able to rebut anything. They asked for a phone number to reach me and when I gave that they did not call me, nor provide any further detail).

#6) didn’t they claim that I have no access to an exchange, and if my funds are of questionable origin, how do they know that they are returning to an exchange? And if it’s an exchange how is it a questionable origin?

#7) for them to give further information and further complicating me securing funds to other parties that may not be true is not their place

#8) I was just asked a few days ago about my identity and other personal details, so how could they even have been so sure that this third party had the right person..

Whether you believe me or not, the above is based on facts and logic. Even SBR has confirmed a lot of what I have complained about, including the fact that no information was given to me.

In my opinion this is no real solution for me as the customer, and it’s also not absolved them of their wrongdoings themselves, including potentially disclosing details on a supposed law enforcement investigation

I want to write a final bit to point out what eventually most people who care should see, and I don’t want Fairlay to be fully excused for handling this terribly from the beginning:

#1) I asked them to return my funds to any address that it had been deposited from, I asked that and it had been suggested by everyone here and SBR for the last 6 weeks, to do this now while pretending they did nothing wrong is absurd

#2) they still never provided any information in terms of what I was accused of or who the third party was. They seem to continue to leak information without giving me any further insight, compromising security of my transactions to an unknown third party

#3) given that they still have not provided me any additional information, their comment that I was “unable to rebut” their assumption is false bc they never even gave me an opportunity. I was also never presented with any evidence

#4) there’s still no evidence that a law enforcement agency was involved, especially given the fact that all my information was handed out to a troll box, to SBR and to a third party

#5) it’s hypocritical that Fairlay has asked me in their emails to not disclose anything in public when they are not even guaranteeing a safe return of my funds to me, and that they are providing false information to the public to clear their name and save face (primarily that I wasn’t able to rebut anything. They asked for a phone number to reach me and when I gave that they did not call me, nor provide any further detail).

#6) didn’t they claim that I have no access to an exchange, and if my funds are of questionable origin, how do they know that they are returning to an exchange? And if it’s an exchange how is it a questionable origin?

#7) for them to give further information and further complicating me securing funds to other parties that may not be true is not their place

#8) I was just asked a few days ago about my identity and other personal details, so how could they even have been so sure that this third party had the right person..

Whether you believe me or not, the above is based on facts and logic. Even SBR has confirmed a lot of what I have complained about, including the fact that no information was given to me.

In my opinion this is no real solution for me as the customer, and it’s also not absolved them of their wrongdoings themselves, including potentially disclosing details on a supposed law enforcement investigation

Can confirm I know nothing, also Fairlay would have flexed those muscles by now if they had told me - they would have claimed so. SBR also is aware that I do not know

Until Dec 31st it seems (think this is arbitrary deadline that's so far away that they think it must be completed by then), there's been no formal accusation just an "allegation" from a 3rd party, that's effectively all they've communicated to me and to the public in terms of why

I'm not sure what you mean

It's like you intentionally ignore what I am saying, if this is a legal situation why hasn't any law enforcement officer contacted ME? I asked if there were any court orders or warrants and there is nothing.

There is not much information I would be able to share anyways, they haven't given me much to work with, I can only outline what I've been given, and tell my opinions - whether or not readers want to believe them is up to them, but SBR has been on my side and fairly in agreement with my standpoint.

I am certain they told SBR what is going on, you can confirm on the SBR thread - the moderator there confirmed they were told what's going on conditional on a non disclosure.

Apparently they have never given a proper answer to the last case either, but I will not give up especially b/c I did not violate any of their terms and the other guy did admit he had potentially. This is very bad business and it should be recognized.

This is a cop out response and you guys know it. You have been flexing and figuring out ways to make it impossible for me to get my money back. I consulted a local law enforcement officer and they said that they had no ability to do what you guys are asking and doubted that any other enforcement officer would be able to fulfill your request. This was unsurprising and logically and legally makes sense - and you guys know that it's not possible.

You have supplied no reasoning, and it's obvious to me that no legal claim is tying you or forcing you to hold my money b/c you've been disclosing my information when it should be sealed by your own terms and conditions but also by a legal claim if it existed.

the tx did not trigger their security system, the deposit was clean and they do not dispute that - i also know where the btc came from so theres no question of that

Agreed, they also seem to not have any clue what is going on with this supposed allegation. I would just say that I was a solid customer and if they can just so quickly abandon me and treat me like this, it can happen to anyone.

I already know that the last deposit was clean and know that wasn't the issue, they are not disputing the deposit. There have been hundred of emails and messages by this point, but it's basically come down to that there's some allegation from a third party, but I won't be told any information or supplied any evidence. Additionally, nothing has happened outside of my communications so I have no clue what it could be right now.

Lastly, for some reason they told SBR what the allegation was, so I know that they should be capable of telling me. It is odd b/c we had a great relationship before this and they are choosing to throw out the privacy and rights of a solid customer based on some random allegation that is most likely inaccurate. I feel like I should have been given the information and the benefit of the doubt. Given that I've not violated any terms and conditions of the site itself there should be more respect, privacy, and communication.

Yes you are right, I did not commit a crime nor violated anything in your terms, and if you think that I did you guys should have told me what and presented me evidence.

I will revive the scam accusation post as per suggestions here, I had a more lively post in the gambling section which is why I did not continue with the scam post.

You should just be careful using this site as they disclose your information to third parties apparently, and at any point there is a risk that your funds may be seized for an "allegation" that you won't be told any details about. As a result you should be careful about what information and data you are giving the company if that is of any importance to you and I would question putting any major funds into the site. If you are just making small time predictions you should be fine.

Feel free to look at my other posts for details.

Based on some of the comments here, there seems to be some confusion. I've had plenty of contact with support and even the CEO. However, they are refusing to give me the proper information. They also asked me for a phone number to call and at first I was uncomfortable but upon second ask I gave it immediately and never received a phone call.

Additionally, they have informed other parties about what is going on but have still told me nothing. Almost every medium I've researched in terms of "seized funds" end up returning the deposit/funds to their customers, even in violation of terms and policies - and I have violated no terms and policies. Again to be clear, the apparent allegation has nothing to do with my conduct on Fairlay and the company has made no claims that I was ever a bad customer - in fact the contrary - they've claimed that I was a great customer even publicly.

The main point is to beware of usage of this site as regardless of what happens there has apparently been plenty of data and information leakage and yet no information given to me. In fact I could guess that the third party is someone phishing for information on my transactions and they could've provided inappropriate information about my account.

FYI, read about how Fairlay is withholding my money against my consent right now.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173428.0

Hello, this is unfortunately still unresolved, I do not normally post here hence the inactivity, if any interest of more detailed progression you can look at SBR, but otherwise I still have not been told what the allegation is, who the third party is, and then I have also not heard anything from any other parties regarding what this could be. Lastly, I did not violate any Fairlay policies so it doesn’t make sense to me for them to be the one to be holding onto the funds right now

I did tweet, I don't know about a Reddit - they claim a 3rd party has allegations against me but I can't think of what it could be. I know it's not source of where I sent my deposit, as I am still fine.

Do you have other forums/places I should be posting on?