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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
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demo15
on 21/08/2018, 22:55:23 UTC


May I point out you sound utterly ridiculous ... Hitler?  Come on, really?  No mod is perfect I will agree with that much. From my view Tao is doing the best he can to give the community a positive non toxic place to spread the word about Dash, to be constructive. I don't know him personally but I have seen his attempts over the years to help Dash grow in positive ways. He is someone who has gained my trust the hard way. The hitler analogy only shows me that unlike Tao, you are not someone I can trust.

I will be blunt you come across as somebody who is purely trying to manipulate Dash price as low as possible. Your appearance here at this time in the market cycle does not strike me as coincidental.
  
If you want to be destructive and then get banned (from Dashtalk) you won't get sympathy from me, although you will from the dash haters( who mostly seem to be monerons by the way with a few bcash and core people too). However if you do hate on dash, you can hate on dash here as much as you want, the example of icebreaker shows very clearly. He does it for years. Do you know him?  Wink


Of course there is an analogy to Hitler. Hitler was voted, and when he got the power he refused the voting procedure and started to opress.
This is exactly what Tao is doing now. He is currently rejected by the masternodes,  but he remains in his position.

Please answer to my whole final message.

Tao is the one who has no rights in dashtalk. He is an unvoted dictator, a paid employee, who oppresses whoever disagree with the current way the dash cryptocurrency is governed. He opresses and censors not only ordinary users, but also masternode owners! The below thread shows clearly what exactly is currently happening in dashtalk:
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-%E2%80%9Cdemote-ryan-taylor-to-an-advisory-role%E2%80%9C.40132/

The masternode owners did the mistake and gave to Tao power, once upon times.
https://www.dashcentral.org/p/dn-discord-renewal-06-11

When Tao got the power, similar to what Hitler and all the rest parliamentarians did and do, he didnt keep his promises but he started severe censorship by applying his own (unvoted) rules into the forum. The masternode owners reacted immediatly, and voted against TaoOfHitler.
https://www.dashcentral.org/p/tao-community-lead

But it was too late. Despite the clear rejection of the masternodes, Tao still holds the keys of the forum, and he refuses to resign. He censors everyone (including the masternode owners, I repeat that) by appying his stupid unvoted rules selectively in an non objective way.

His filthy goal (along with the goal of a minority of core team members who support him) is simple. By censoring the critical information, by muting all opposing voices that resist in Dash's extreme maladministration, they want to control the vote of the masternodes and keep for themselves the governance of the dash cryptocurrency.

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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
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demo15
on 21/08/2018, 22:14:07 UTC


Demo... I think you miss understand. These mods and these forums afford you no rights.  As a community... If we think your raising shit and FUD masqueraded as community betterment is toxic, then we have the absolute right to kick you out.   Don't like it start your own community.

We are all sick and tired of your moaning and groaning.

Tao is the one who has no rights in dashtalk. He is an unvoted dictator, a paid employee, who oppresses whoever disagree with the current way the dash cryptocurrency is governed. He opresses and censors not only ordinary users, but also masternode owners! The below thread shows clearly what exactly is currently happening in dashtalk:
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-%E2%80%9Cdemote-ryan-taylor-to-an-advisory-role%E2%80%9C.40132/

The masternode owners did the mistake and gave to Tao power, once upon times.
https://www.dashcentral.org/p/dn-discord-renewal-06-11

When Tao got the power, similar to what Hitler and all the rest parliamentarians did and do, he didnt keep his promises but he started severe censorship by applying his own (unvoted) rules into the forum. The masternode owners reacted immediatly, and voted against TaoOfHitler.
https://www.dashcentral.org/p/tao-community-lead

But it was too late. Despite the clear rejection of the masternodes, Tao still holds the keys of the forum, and he refuses to resign. He censors everyone (including the masternode owners, I repeat that) by appying his stupid unvoted rules selectively in an non objective way.

His filthy goal (along with the goal of a minority of core team members who support him) is simple. By censoring the critical information, by muting all opposing voices that resist in Dash's extreme maladministration, they want to control the vote of the masternodes and keep for themselves the governance of the dash cryptocurrency.
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
by
demo15
on 20/08/2018, 16:36:16 UTC
Qwizzie, can you predict the future or something? Tongue Finaly they banned me again.  

The reason? The above message! They delete users' posts without informing in private messages, and when you are asking them why they behave so sneaky, they ban you!!!!
To be honest, I don't see any reason to inform via PMs before deleting spamming threads.
Spammers or fudsters should know that spamming and fudding threads deserved to be deleted immediately after being found without any warning message.
That sort of ugly threads seriously violate moral principles.

Spammers should be informed about deletion. as long as their message is not the same.


I never spammed in dashtalk. You misunderstood that.
I spammed only here in bitcointalk regarding the censorship of tungfa, and post a message warning below every post he did.
It was not an ordinary spam. I was targeting tungfa, and informed who he really was.
The same will occur with Tao now.

Anywhere on the internet, below every post he is doing, I will inform how he entered as moderator in dashtalk, how he imposed his unvoted rules, and how he and his moderators sneaky delete users and non spam messages in dashtalk, in order to promote their agenda (which is to control the governance of the dash cryptocurrency)

And I will do that forever, until he unban me from dashtalk.  I have 3131 messages in dashtalk. I am not a spammer for sure. Not a single message I posted in dashtalk was a spam.

A typical exapmle of the consequences of Tao rules in dashtalk, is this
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-%E2%80%9Cdemote-ryan-taylor-to-an-advisory-role%E2%80%9C.40132/

The unvoted season of Tao will end in dashtalk, and the spirit of the sneaky indecent courtesy he represents will be thrown to hell forever.
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
by
demo15
on 19/08/2018, 20:41:06 UTC
When I tried to register a new account, I realized that the dashtalk filthy censors closed the registration!!!

"Dash Forum Thanks for registering. Your registration must now be approved by an administrator. You will receive an email when a decision has been taken. "


Prediction: The dashtalk forum will become a real desert now. Having enormous experience in internet forums, I can definitely say that the closed registration is the end of every forum.

The agents (who control the dash cryptocurrency) shut down the forum, and won a battle (but not the war).

Apart from here in bitcointalk, you can also find me now in
https://www.reddit.com/user/demo103

For now on, I will also post there about Tao's censorship crimes
https://www.reddit.com/r/DashUncensored/comments/98nwje/how_to_fight_censorship_in_dash_forums/
https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/98ocae/stop_the_censorship_in_dashtalk_do_not_accept_the/


STOP THE CENSORSHIP IN DASHTALK.ORG
DO NOT ACCEPT THE IMPOSED AND UNVOTED DASHTALK MODERATION RULES!
Whenever a post is deleted for whatever reason, the moderator ought to send the text of the deleted post to the user in a private message!
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
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demo15
on 19/08/2018, 20:28:35 UTC
Poor Tao, not even allowed to laugh  Sad
Talking about laughing, what number are we at right now demo ? We must have passed 15 on dash.org by now.
Qwizzie, can you predict the future or something? Tongue Finaly they banned me again.  

The reason? The above message! They delete users' posts without informing in private messages, and when you are asking them why they behave so sneaky, they ban you!!!!

I received the following message, when I logged into my 3200 posts demo account:
"You have been banned for the following reason: nmarley banning for Tao per his instructions"


Censorship in dashtalk continues. And Tao is the current filthy censor.
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
by
demo15
on 19/08/2018, 17:13:57 UTC
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/crowdfunding-dash-europe-foundation.40178/#post-195162
message #10


TaoOfSatoshi said: ↑

    @demo You are absolutely right about my comment being inappropriate. I have deleted it with my apologies. It’s not the first time I had to mod myself! Smiley

    BTW: Your post was also deleted for speculation as fact, but your point was taken. Thanks for keeping me honest. Wink


Yet you insist of not informing me with a private message about the deletion.
Neither you informed me about the deletion of the conversation I had with @DeepBlue about slavery.
I think I should extend the anticensorship measures to more messages.

    Hearing the men say that the prize was not money but a wreath of olive, he could not forbear from exclaiming before them all: "Good heavens! Mardonius, what manner of men are these against whom thou hast brought us to fight? - men who contend with one another, not for money, but for honour!"
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
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demo15
on 19/08/2018, 13:04:02 UTC
Poor Tao, not even allowed to laugh  Sad
Talking about laughing, what number are we at right now demo ? We must have passed 15 on dash.org by now.

Tao gave me back my original account.
So I am again the original demo now, in dashtalk.
If someone doubts, I can sign a message by using demo's dash address, both here and in dashtalk.

But the censorship continues in dashtalk, because many moderators are involved, and the imposed (by Tao) moderation rules are not clear.
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
by
demo15
on 19/08/2018, 09:55:58 UTC
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/crowdfunding-dash-europe-foundation.40178/#post-195128
Post #3

Your laugh seems ironic. If it is, this means you do not respect this person. And this is against your own rule.
demo said: ↑

    @TaoOfSatoshi currently imposes the following rule into the forum by implementing this decision (and by ignoring the other one )
    
    Rule1: Dash forum users shall treat each other with respect and dignity.
    

LOL.

Why shall we treat others with respect when they talk irrespectable?
IMHO, If someone acts stupidly he does not deserve respect, especially when he posts anonymously.
IMHO, if we respect the stupids, the whole forum will be transformed into a stupid forum.
IMHO, your rules drive the forum (and the community) to even more stupefaction.

Is it by chance, that this Simba boy originates from your own Dash nation Discord channel?
IMHO, what you and your rules are doing into this forum, is to import the Discord's concentrated nonsense.

I hope that this "season" of indecent courtesy that has been imposed (without a vote) into the forum, will stop someday.
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
by
demo15
on 16/08/2018, 08:00:42 UTC
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/rate-the-forum-rules.39652/#post-194960
Post #25 (hopefully resides after post #24)

You are not a simple speculator. You are a liar . You just deleted a message of mine where I claim that I am censored, giving as reason "you are speculating as fact when saying you are censored"
Shame on you. I know better than you that some messages of mine are stealthy deleted by a mod who doesnt even warn that the deletion occured.
For now on I will post my messages both here and in bitcointalk, to prove how much liar you are.
Is this what you want?
Instead of causing this war, isnt better for you to force (by code and by rule ) all mods to inform all users upon deletion?
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
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demo15
on 16/07/2018, 21:00:30 UTC
i saw a post about devnet, gj guys

link?
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
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demo15
on 17/06/2018, 08:17:36 UTC
No more demo?
I am in negotiations with TaoOfSatoshi.
I am waiting for him to restore my original demo account in dashtalk.
Then I will put all the falsy rules of Tao into a community vote.
Most of the rules are extremely vague and can be misinterpreted according to the secret agenda of the moderators.

Especially I will organize a campaign against the Tao rule that prohibits the bumping of necro threads.
I hope that the dash community will vote for free speech and eternal life.
I hope that the dash community will vote against the censorship and the death that is represented by Tao.
Resurrection now!

"Here is the wisdom, and whoever has a mind in him, let him vote the number of the beast, for it is the number of a human."
It’s not censorship if someone posts something that goes against clearly posted rules, Demo. You’re not being treated differently than anyone else. Respectful and courteous dialogue without BS is my goal, staying a welcoming environment for newcomers.

Who fucks the newcomers? It is more important to resurrect the old guard. It is more important to resurrect Satoshi.

And even more important, is to put all your rules into a permanent vote.  Because, even if your rules fit perfectly to the current dash community (they dont), they certainly do not fit to the dash community of the future.

Your rules should not be presented as being the ten commandments. Lets put them into a never ending vote.  Not only the old guard, but also every newcomer (proved to be an individual and not an alternative account or a bot) should be able to judge and vote your rules, and also change their vote whenever they wish. 

You are not creating a welcoming enviroment for the newcomers. By imposing your rules to them, you are creating a slavery enviroment for the newcomers.



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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
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demo15
on 17/06/2018, 02:35:08 UTC
No more demo?
I am in negotiations with TaoOfSatoshi.
I am waiting for him to restore my original demo account in dashtalk.
Then I will put all the falsy rules of Tao into a community vote.
Most of the rules are extremely vague and can be misinterpreted according to the secret agenda of the moderators.

Especially I will organize a campaign against the Tao rule that prohibits the bumping of necro threads.
I hope that the dash community will vote for free speech and eternal life.
I hope that the dash community will vote against the censorship and the death that is represented by Tao.
Resurrection now!

"Here is the wisdom, and whoever has a mind in him, let him vote the number of the beast, for it is the number of a human."
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
by
demo15
on 15/06/2018, 09:05:08 UTC
Special Announcement Regarding Dash Forums Moderation

Both current and future Dash enthusiasts deserve respectful and welcoming environments to further the cause of digital cash. Today the rules that helped make Dash Nation on Discord successful are in effect on Reddit and Dash Forum. Please help us by notifying the mod teams of any activity that runs afoul of these rules. Thank you!

Short explainer video:

https://youtu.be/gjsR2Pj1Fgl

Link to new Dash Forums rules and expectations: http://www.dashnation.com/get-involved/dash-forums-rules-and-expectations/

Onward and upward, friends!

Cheers, The Dash Forums Moderation Team.


Questions:

1) Who decided the rules of the dashtalk forum? Are they voted by the dash community or by the Masternodes? Where is the url of the relevant vote/poll?

2) What about all the people that have been banned BEFORE the establishment of the rules, without even giving an explanation for the ban? Will you un-ban them?

3) Some dashtalk moderators, constantly bump threads here in bitcointalk, while at the same time they ban people in dashtalk for bumping threads. And recently, in order to justify their action, the bumping of threads was declared as inappropriate behavior into the new dashtalk forum rules. Here follows an example of a dashtalk moderator who bumps threads in bitcointalk:

The question is, do you think that the behaviour of the dashtalk moderators, here in bitcointalk, is a decent one ?

Thank you.

P.S. the youtube link you provided is not valid.
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
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demo15
on 13/06/2018, 15:31:02 UTC
Ladies and gentlemen,

I present to you, the new Icebreaker!!

Lord of capitalspam, king of toddlers, master of whining,

Demo15!

YAYYY! we have a new pet troll. Smiley


I wonder if we can make our new pet troll learn new tricks ?  
With Icey we made it learn how to delete its own posts, what can we teach demo ? Undecided

Edit : found something that may help, just look long and hard at the picture below demo and open yourself up to it :

https://i.imgur.com/UgBEJKN.jpg

(numbers play a big role for our new pet troll, de-base that and we may achieve a change in our pet troll behaviour as well)

http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/laches.html
The correct translation is :
"a good decision is based on knowledge and not on how many people vote."

Plato also refers to the knowledge tree.
The knowledge tree is a graph of interdependant decisions/votes.
You are allowed to vote for these decisions, either with a yes/no or with numbers.
Voting with numbers without having a structured knowledge tree, is stupid.

This is what plato said.

Here is an example of interdependant votes/decisions, that form a small graph.
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/ratings-demo-received.12739/page-2#post-112763
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
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demo15
on 12/06/2018, 23:16:15 UTC
Thank you for the bump, appreciate it.

Let me remind you , that tungfa lock threads and bans people in dashtalk, because they bump threads.
example:
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/which-masternodes-voted-and-what-exactly-voted-on-various-proposals-v2.34403/

But wait! Tugfa prohibits thread bumping in dashtalk, but on the other hand this is exactly what he's doing over here!
Tungfa constantly bumps threads here in bitcointalk!

So you should be allowed to bump threads, and I should be allowed too.
But tungfa should not be allowed.
I will keep reminding his hypocrisy, below every message of his.
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
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demo15
on 12/06/2018, 23:10:59 UTC


If this is the very same "Demo" account from Dash.org then good on him.  The "Demo" account on dash.org was toxic....claiming to be a dash member...but trolling all the time.  If this in fact is you....good on Tungfa.

Dash.org is not a free speech site.  Its a community site for like minded individuals that are DASH community members wanting to communicate with other Dash members.  Free of harassment and toxic troll like behavior.  By no means does our dash.org site owe you or any other member a free pulpit to spew toxic shit.

Hope that seems clear enough to you...and I support his and macro's stance.

Tungfa, macro and many others of us out here have had it with toxic bullshit from people...its time to clean house.  Want to spew stuff...well here's your forum.

thanks.

Yeah, tungfa even lifted the ban on one of those users that got carried away with words a bit too much (thereby violating Dash forum rules) during that drama , showing a willingness to give forum users over there a second chance.
Demo15 on the other hand seems to have run out of second chances on our Dash forum a long long time ago (some 13 accounts ago to be exact)  Roll Eyes

But at least he is actively helping us here bump our Dash ANN thread on the Bitcointalk forum, its not a pretty task but someone got to do it and it seems demo15 just volunteered for it.
So lets all give a big hurray to demo15 and his selflessness bump-our-thread behaviour :

https://i.imgur.com/J0iOf3t.jpg



First of all there was not any rule that prevented the creation of multiple accounts in dashtalk.
Secondly, all demo series accounts have been created the last month because I was repeatedly banned without any reason given.
So you think it is normal to ban a 2 years old/ 3000 messages account WITHOYT ANY GIVEN EXPLANATION...
I have nothing else to say, let the readers judge you about it.

I am not bumping the thread. I am censoring tungfa. He knows, for now on, that everytime he talks here, a "stop censorship" message will follow.
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
by
demo15
on 12/06/2018, 23:04:51 UTC
Such an incredible thing, how dash grew so much and it is now so profitable, I should have started investing a while a ago on this project haha.. great respect to the team that was able to pull off such a great project like this one!!! Grin

Oh yes I remember those times where master nodes would have been dirt cheap but sadly I didn't get a bunch of them. Sad

You can still invest on masternodes.
http://masternodes.online
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
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demo15
on 12/06/2018, 22:56:13 UTC


If this is the very same "Demo" account from Dash.org then good on him.  The "Demo" account on dash.org was toxic....claiming to be a dash member...but trolling all the time.  If this in fact is you....good on Tungfa.

Dash.org is not a free speech site.  Its a community site for like minded individuals that are DASH community members wanting to communicate with other Dash members.  Free of harassment and toxic troll like behavior.  By no means does our dash.org site owe you or any other member a free pulpit to spew toxic shit.

Hope that seems clear enough to you...and I support his and macro's stance.

Tungfa, macro and many others of us out here have had it with toxic bullshit from people...its time to clean house.  Want to spew stuff...well here's your forum.

thanks.
So you think it is normal to ban a 2 years old/ 3000 messages account WITHOYT ANY GIVEN EXPLANATION...
I have nothing else to say, let the readers judge you about it.

The mods in dashtalk were NOT voted by the dashtalk community, neither the forum rules were voted!
Someone imposed the forum rules and hired the toxic moderators, in order to push his secret agenda in dash!
Whenever I discover that one of these toxic moderators speaks freely, I will reply by shouting below every message of their.
And I hope that every free speech advocate will do the same.
Lets inform the people who the censors are.
Let us censor the censors!
A cryptocurrency without free speech, is not a cryptocurrency but a media used and controled by agents.
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
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demo15
on 12/06/2018, 06:13:55 UTC
lol, this is perfect time for fudster to join the topic and bombing the one with FUDs. If those bad news are real ones, why not use your main accounts to leave all your comments, fudsters?

In contrast to here (bitcointalk), in dashtalk there is a defined electorate that could vote the moderation rules and elect the moderators.
This is due to the nature of the dash coin which supports the governance feature.
This electorate is called the Masternode operators body (or MNO body), they are the people who own more than 1000 dash.
So the one who imposes the rules and hires the moderators (without asking the MNO body about it), he is clearly pushing a secret agenda.
IMHO the people who impose moderation rules and hire moderators in dashtalk (instead of leting this to be voted by the MNO body) they are either agents, or an inner cycle of friends that wants to tottaly control the dash coin.

Hiring moderators and imposing unvoted moderation rules is a highly centralized act that goes against the real nature of cryptocurrencies. This is exactly what google, twitter, facebook, wikipedia e.t.c are doing against the cryptospace, when they constantly censor whatever has to do with cryptos. The Dash community, if they will accept the rude moderation without revolting, then they have choosen on what part they are.
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
by
demo15
on 12/06/2018, 05:57:48 UTC

I think its called moderation. But if you want uncensored Dash chat this is the place. Its a free forum for unfettered discussion, or trolling, whatever is your poison.  

https://media.giphy.com/media/5m8J2LjONk7D2/giphy.gif

It is NOT called moderation.

If you impose the rules and you hire moderators (instead of voting the rules and electing the moderators) then it is called secret agenda .