I was so excited when Tesla announced they gonna keep hodling BTCs.
Why is the price still going down despite the big announcement?

Went from 56$k to 54k$ 

It's totally natural market behavior, that we dump without any bad news.

We have even awesome news, but we go down.

That's a totally natural market behavior of a huge number of diversified market participants. I am totally sure of it. Someone mentioned a decline of shot positions whilethe market goes down. He mentioned also manipulation through high frequency trading... But I think, it is totally normal, that the market is selling of in a bull run with extrem bullish news. Sure... End of ranting.

I am sad, because have no fiat for buy the dip.

mmmh ... seems to working yet.

Sometimes it can be quite difficult to really know with any kind of certainty, and surely instead of a fat thumb, it could have been a pumpening attempt that failed.., but I agree that the fat thumb explanation does seem to be more likely of a scenario because such a thing does happen from time to time and sometimes is later admitted to or described as a factual scenario surrounding "large" price movements that more frequently happen on less liquid exchanges... but also sometimes happen on more influential and liquid exchanges, too.


This is a good point, vapourminer.

No matter the circumstances, there is a balancing that is needed to be considered, and in some sense, some of us might feel some kinds of obligations to have had spread the word, whether we are talking about 2011, some later date, or even now, and all of a sudden because we may have become rich as fuck or relatively richer than some of our neighbors because we move above and beyond ramen, we still might have some balancing obligations (surely, personal discretion in terms of how much of any kind of obligation that might be felt) in terms of sharing with others but maybe not getting too caught up into personal details.

I continue to frequently tell people (strangers and even people that I might only know superficially as well as persons that I know in more intimate and ongoing ways) that bitcoin is likely to be serving as one of the greatest wealth transfers that we have ever known or that the world has ever known, and sure you can remain stupid about it or unaware, but in some sense you are lucky that I am even mentioning such a thing to you and going into some details about my having had studied the space.  Sure, you have the right to do whatever the fuck you want in terms of "looking into the matter" or taking some kind of meaningful action or even ignoring whatever I have said to you about the topic.  I am not necessarily going to attempt to teach you anything beyond some informed questions that you might ask, but in a considerable sense you have been put on notice, and it is up to you regarding what to do, if anything.

Surely, my going into the idea of "the greatest wealth transfer in history" is going to vary and is quite likely to come out differently, and maybe at some point I might hone in upon some better formulaic ways of saying such things and to differ the pitch a wee bit depending on my assessment of the receptiveness of my audience.

Sorry. I don't consider bouncing up and down between $43k and $58k as being "$60k".

I see it as the battle for $50k. When we hit $60k a week ago, I figured $50k was finally a done deal.

 He really gets it.

Price going up yo!

hectares

Good Morning WOvians...

I thought we go up to a new ATH this night, but we go down a little... But today ist the day, where we went from ATH to ATH

Btw. Yesterday I found out, that here in germany they made future trading basically impossible for private citizens.

Since this year, you can only remove max 20k Loss from your gains. All above doesn't count for tax calculation. You can take the rest to the next year, but you can only remove it from gains in future trading, not other income.

One example:


Loss: 30.000 €
Win: 40.000 €

Before 2021 easy: 40k - 30k = 10k and 25% taxes on it.

Now: 40k - 20k (max) = 20k and 25% taxes on it.

Now imagine future trading with leverage has sometime many more the these numbers.

This is highly unlawful (constitutional). Hope they win before court, but this takes time.

So the only way to gain more coins is to stake or to buy the fucking dip.