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Re: cards/manufacturers with good cooling/fans
by
dmurph
on 18/06/2011, 06:42:24 UTC
Stick with the reference design just don't run the fan at more than 50% 24/7. Pretty much any other design is just going to dump the heat from the card back into the case and your temps will rise.

What do you mean by reference design?  And I'm not home during the day, so I'm not sure how I'm going to be regulating keeping the fan < 50%
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cards/manufacturers with good cooling/fans
by
dmurph
on 18/06/2011, 06:21:22 UTC
So I recently made the mistake of buying the $150 sapphire 5850's on amazon, and within a month the fans were destroyed (bearings are done).  Meanwhile I have a 6850 that's been running for months by Power Cooler and the fan is not only effective (never goes above 65%, heat peaks around 80C), but also quiet.

So I'm wondering, are there specific brands or cards that have notably better cooling/fans than others?  What are your good/bad experiences?

Thanks,
Daniel

Note: I'm talking about mining 24/7
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Re: building a mining rig with $1800
by
dmurph
on 31/05/2011, 06:06:09 UTC
Another nice option that is in between cased and caseless are what are known as "Tech benches". They are basically open-air but fully rigged up cases. One example I've been looking at would be:

http://www.amazon.com/MYOPENPC-Transparent-Acrylic-Station-motherboards/dp/B004TZ56GU/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&m=A3Q4NSDXS8U7OP&s=generic&qid=1306788458&sr=1-13

I'm still trying to work out which ones would best fit the most cards though.

Great info, I really like those tech benches, the one you posted looks the best out of the 4 I see there (I can't figure out if the rotatable one has a larger pci area, they don't really show).  Hmmmm now I can't decide between THOR and the benches,  I have to say thor is pretty nicely featured....

edit: thors are out of stock, looks like i'm gonna go with the openpc one!
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Re: building a mining rig with $1800
by
dmurph
on 31/05/2011, 05:02:02 UTC
Just a note, you can't fit 4 double slot video cards into an antec 1200, let alone 5. Nor would you be able to fit 5 cards on the motherboard anyway, you'd need an extender for the 5th pci-E slot. That motherboard is kind of pricey for what you plan on doing, I'm not totally sure I understand whether you are building a second computer for gaming or plan on using this motherboard/cpu, but an AMD sempron will bottleneck the crap out of 6970s, so you won't be able to game on it anyway.

The only cases capable of doing 4 cards are ones with 8+ expansion slots. The only case I know capable of doing 5 cards for under $300 is the Rosewill THOR.

EDIT: Also worth noting that you will be hard pressed to find any 5850s these days. Amazon has been out of stock for about a month and there's no real reason to believe they will get any more anytime soon. Your best bet is to buy used cards or else you will have to go skinny with 5830s, another reason why it might be better to go with 2 cheaper motherboards that can utilize PCI-E x1 slots with extenders.

EDIT #2: The antec quattro is an incredible waste of money. You will likely be able to run 4x 5850s on a quality 750Watt power supply (maybe even less but let's play it safe). You can pick up a quality one of those for about half the price.

hm... ok.  Well do you suggest anything case-wise?  Or any way to just have one sitting outside the case? I was going to grab the extender for the 4th one, thought i could fit it in the case somewhere though.  Would 3 fit in a 900 or 300?

Yeah wasn't sure about the psu, I'll grab a let expensive one.

and what would be the advantage of two cheaper motherboards?


edit: I like the way this guy put his extra card on the side: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/842/20110523005.jpg/
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Re: building a mining rig with $1800
by
dmurph
on 31/05/2011, 04:36:50 UTC
EDIT: My only comment on your build specifically would be whether or not you really want to get a Full Tower Case.

Will 4 or 5 video cards fit in the altec 900 or 300?

Ive got the MSI 890fxa-gd70 as my miner board... Im using 4 slots of the 5, they're double slot cards, so you're going to have to be creative... Also I dont know if its just my board, but in a 3 card configuration, I cant get the middle card to work.Im using the Sapphire 5850s as well, just fyi.

Its configured:
Card
fan
space
Card
fan
space
Card
fan

I couldnt figure it out, but every time I tried that I saw 3 devices in device manager that were 5850s, but only 2 in catalyst/display settings. It wouldnt allow me to extend the display to enable the middle card. I did have dummy plugs, and with 4 cards in the system It works well, but this is without using the black pci-e slot. Like I said it might only be my board, but check to make sure it's able to be utilized before you dive in. 4 cards run really hot when they're all in their respective slots, so be prepared for that. My cards run 300 mhash/s each, and they run between 80 (coolest card) up to 90C (hottest card).

What case config did you use?
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Re: building a mining rig with $1800
by
dmurph
on 31/05/2011, 04:14:32 UTC
U don't need dummy adapters for Linux Rigs. U do however need one on ur 2nd GPU on ur gaming/mining rig if u're not using dual monitor like me Smiley

Glad you mentioned that, I was about to buy them haha, now I don't need any!  Also another quick question, should I get the molex adapter x16 extenders? and why would someone need the 1x extender?  Would I be able to turn regular pci ports into express ports with that?

Thanks again for your help, I'll throw a bitcoin your way Cheesy
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Re: building a mining rig with $1800
by
dmurph
on 31/05/2011, 03:48:51 UTC
I don't need the crossfire though, correct? I can have my main gpu hooked up to (sometimes) a monitor but the others can all be used by miners, right?

[Edit] Whoops, this was already answered
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Re: building a mining rig with $1800
by
dmurph
on 31/05/2011, 03:12:31 UTC

I'm not sure how much power. I think I've read somewhere when Overclock the 5850 draws around 200 W. But recently I read you could run 4 of them off a 850 W. I'm not sure how much does the MOBO+CPU draws either. So I'm going with 1000W~1200W if 5x5850.

You don't need xFire to mine. Specify different miners to each GPU just like you said.

And with regards to the casing I think it'll be better to just go with no casing if you're intending to go 5xGPU since heat is going to be a real problem. Take a look at the "Show off your mining rigs" thread somewhere, you'll get an idea about casing, placement and etc.

I took the liberty to link to (see in quote) newegg to give a rough estimate of the prices, your insurance and additional investments

1000W PSU - $195 + $80 + $270 + $160 + $12 + RAM for your gaming rig = $717 + RAM
1200W PSU - + $120 = $837 + RAM

Balance from insurance should be close to $800~$1000, enough to get 4~5 GPU example (2x6970+2x5850)-(2x320)+(2x150)=$960
All these are just from ur insurance. You'd still need to buy a Sempron 140 ($38) for your mining rig, a 2/4 GB Thumbdrive ($6)(Linux) + MOBO for your gaming rig + PSU ($70) for your gaming rig [optional + HDD + OS if you need] (If you got more than 6 GPU then get PCIe extender

(PSU and MOBO assume 2x6970 xFire, 4 RAM slots for option and Cheapest Investment since if anything fails you could swap the GD70 for ur gaming rig)

This config gives you
1 Dedicated Mining Rig @ 4x5850 = 1.3~1.4 Ghash/s
1 Gaming/Dedicated Rig @ 2x6970 = 800 Mhash/s
Total = 2.1~2.2 Ghash/s

Insurance Cover $1,800
Additional Investment ($38+$6+$70[+HDD+OS]) = $114

This should be all you need. Just tweak a little to your liking. I forgot US still sells 1GB RAM and changed the 2GB to 1GB. Remember the PCIe Extender if you get 5 GPU from ur Insurance

EDIT: I forgot you wanted i7 in that case you can't use GD70 for ur gaming rig. Reconsider some of the config. This is to give you an idea.

Holy crap, thanks for all this help!  Here's what I think I'll go with for the insurance then:

Mining rig:
(put this up top) ~$1000 (I have a slightly more expensive psu in there, might change that)
+ extenders and dummy adapters

Gaming rig:
GPU: 2x6970s (~$720)
buy the rest later

= around $1800! yay!

I have a couple old hdds laying around, so I'll just use one of those for the OS.  I'll have to look around about the casing like you said, but I have the altec 1200 in there just for now.  I'll keep the top updated to my build
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Re: building a mining rig with $1800
by
dmurph
on 31/05/2011, 02:08:17 UTC
With the $1800 at your disposal, it's probably best to splurge it all on good GPU's then.
Then make a dedicated mining machine with those good GPU's like grue suggested.
That will get you the most bang/buck as far as mining is concerned.

Yeah, and from what I'm reading the 5850 is the most efficient miner, and there are (were) 5850's on amazon for $150 each, which means I can buy a LOT of them.  Not sure if I have access to this much power haha
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Re: building a mining rig with $1800
by
dmurph
on 31/05/2011, 01:44:09 UTC
If the issue is with the insurance, try to get more GPU from the insurance and then use cash to buy the MOBO of ur choice
GD70 is what one of my rigs is using. It's got 5 PCIe slots.


Consider this option.
 - GD70 (5 PCIe slot)
 - 1000W/1200 PSU (support 5x5850)
 - CPU of your choice
 - HDD of ur choice (If theres a need)
 - Casing of ur choice
 - RAM (2 GB + What u want to use)
 - a few other GPU from the balance of $1,800

Piece together a dedicated mining rig using the GD70+Sempron 140 [Purchase ur own], 2 GB RAM, PSU & GPU + Ubuntu/Linux on Thumbdrive (4 GB) [For 5 GPU get 2 PCIe Extender for $9]

As for your own computer. U still have Casing, CPU of ur choice, RAM, HDD & GPU (Assuming you got 3 or more from the insurance). All you need to buy is MOBO and PSU.

You'll get at least 2.5 Ghash/s with a working computer of ur liking + dedicated rig (naked or cheap casing). (total around 5~7 GPU) With a bit more investment.

This sounds great, thanks so much for the info!  Yeah this computer is completely dedicated to mining.  I have a couple followup questions:

  • How much power might this draw?  What should I do to the appt I'm in to make sure I'm not gonna blow things up?
  • Will 5x5850's fit in the altec 1200 case?  Any tips on what will hold all of this?
  • Do i need to crossfire anything? or can i just specify the gpu on 5 different miners?

don't buy that expensive motherboard. just get a cheap one, and use risers/extenders to utilize all the pci-e x1 slots. Also, you're wasting money with your i7, just get a AMD motherboard + cheapest CPU.

Everything i said above only applies to a dedicated miner, if you're using this for gaming, this build looks decent.

Yeah good point, thanks.

How does this insurance work?
You don't get to keep the full $1800?

From what I've read that MSI board should handle quad crossfire at x8 speeds.

Yeah, it has to be a replacement of same value (which I'm claiming at $1800), so I'm pretty sure I can't swing multiple computers.  Plus I don't have that much room/power  Wink
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Re: building a mining rig with $1800
by
dmurph
on 31/05/2011, 00:56:53 UTC
Why would multiple cheaper rigs be better?  The issue is the insurance, I have to give an equivalent build, I can't tell them two computers haha.

that does look pretty cheap, and I can do up to 3 cards in xfire, correct?  Yeah I heard antec's ps was better, thanks
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building a mining rig with $1800
by
dmurph
on 31/05/2011, 00:39:21 UTC
Hey guys,

So out of a ups blunder they completely destroyed my old desktop (dropped from like 10 feet or something).  I got $1800 worth of insurance, and I'm planning on using all of it on a new mining computer.  I liked this older post: http://forum.bitcoin.org/?topic=2610.0 but I know things have changed a bit and a couple of those motherboards are over with.

So I'd love some advice on what I should be purchasing for this rig, here's my current build:

(EDITx7)
Case:MYOPENPC BENCH King $60
PowerSupply:CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-850TX 850W $130
CPU:AMD Sempron 140 $40
RAM:Corsair 3GB$40
Motherboard:MSI 890FXA-GD70]MSI 890FXA-GD70 $200
GPU: 3x5850 (I already have 2 unbroken)$450
TOTAL:~$1000
Also with x16 expansions so around ~$1050 at the end.
Then I'll buy two 6970's for gaming rig (that i'll complete later), leaving me around 1750
Thanks to SchizophrenicX and bcpokey for suggesting this build!

For a dedicated miner build, what do you guys think?

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Re: still unconfirmed
by
dmurph
on 05/04/2011, 06:53:03 UTC
The rescan worked, thanks!
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Re: still unconfirmed
by
dmurph
on 05/04/2011, 04:52:49 UTC
Yes, it has all the blocks, and I'm switching out wallets.  So running the window gui client like this:

bitcoin.exe -rescan

should work?
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still unconfirmed
by
dmurph
on 05/04/2011, 03:33:30 UTC
Hello,

So I created a separate wallet a couple days ago as my "secure" wallet and I sent some small sums of bitcoins to it to test it out (in 2-10 amounts).  In my regular wallet, I see 100 or so confirmations of my sent transactions, but I still have 0 confirmations in my secure wallet.  Is there any reason why I'm not seeing any confirmations?

Thanks,
Daniel
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Re: hash rate drop
by
dmurph
on 30/03/2011, 22:38:12 UTC
whoops, yeah you're right
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hash rate drop
by
dmurph
on 30/03/2011, 22:03:31 UTC
So I just bought a Radeon 6850 which was happily churning out a good ~200 Mh/s.  After a day or so of running, it's now running at a top speed of ~70 Mh/s.  I've had the fan manually on fully speed and it's definitely not overheated.  I've quit all programs as well, and the catalyst center shows 100% activity.   Any idea why this happened?  Did I blow one of the gpus?

edit: with a second restart, I'm now getting ~200 again, but it fluctuates a whole lot.  strange