further up the thread ...is a guy who got one...also others i know have gotten refunds

Searing

The Antminers are not even in the same ZIP code as the Bitfury chips in regards to power draw.

Here are my personal measurements on a 6 card Bitfury doing about 175GH/s sitting right next to a 180GH/s non-overclocked Antminer S1:
Antminer - 360W power draw (measured by Killawatt at the wall)
Bitfury - 185W power draw (measured by Killawatt at the wall)


If the pricing is the same, and you are deploying these en-mass, the Bitfurys save you a lot of $$$ in power.

It should be. Some ppl in this forum have already gotten refunds processed for their neptune orders.

0,16 a day in july sounds high? Thought it would be much less than that

I'm more interested in the start time of the cloud mining compared to the shipping time of the X3's
What they do is pretty obvious - you rent 1TH/s for 4 or 6 months then it's over, you don't get to keep any hardware. I believe you even get to choose the pool to mine at.
The price for 6 months hosting per TH is roughly equivalent to the price per TH of the X3. But you don't have to pay customs (which in my case would be 13% of the product's value), no electricity costs, no monitoring the thing, no lost revenue while shipping or if the unit is damaged on arrival. And I assume after 6 months X3's are more than likely obsolete and their resale value at that point might not cover the previously mentioned costs. Depending on how fast difficulty rises the cheaper 4 month cloud rental might be the best bang for the buck Black Arrow has to offer, but at least in my mind the 6 month cloud rental is almost certainly better than buying an X3. Might be different if customs can be avoided and you don't pay for electricity, but even then, the shipping time can still get you. Of course this entire analysis hinges on the cloud offering starting the same time as X3 shipping...

Batch 2 jupiters released wtf
https://www.kncminer.com/products/neptune-second-batch?resellerid=352

My Ants are mining very happily, but because of heat concerns, I decided to move them into another room and run them off of WiFi.  They seem to be mining and are visible when I check the "Connected Devices" on my router, but I can't remote into them (via the web interface or ssh), unless I connect them via ethernet.

I read through all these pages, and it seems that a few people are having the same problem that I am, but I never saw it addressed or solved.  There was some suggestion that maybe we can't remote into them over WiFi because of some setting in the Ants Firewall, but I'm not seeing anything that would likely be causing this.  I was just wondering if anyone has this problem or if they came to a solution.  Thanks!

I'll speak to them again on the phone tomorrow and if they can't do a wire transfer then will ask them to re-fund me in full, can't have that amount of money sitting with them if they can't even do what they advertise! 

And where did you exactly find those $749 cards?

Another benefit is most of the nice ones will smooth out and clean the electricity for you, along with giving you 5 minutes of extra uptime. The uptime is also nice if you have to rearrange wiring for some reason. There are benefits, but it's not going to keep you going when the electricity is "truly out".

was this for the 1st batch of Neptunes? (not sure but did you miss the paid deadline....by the 28th?)

If it is for the 2nd batch of numbers it does not match the Neptune info I was given for the IBAN number

(of course took my bank 1 hr to do the order today..then they called me back in after 1hr ..then took them 3 hrs and girls crying to get next order in
what a clus*t*rf*c*   so I've no idea what the  hell is gonna happen on my order today (which since it was late by the time I got it done will prob go in on Tuesday

I guess I learned my lesson use a 'commercial bank" the old regular bank has no experience with doing international wire xfers....to tell you the truth I was
treated pretty badly for a guy that banked there for 20yrs plus.....they we're just generally p/o that I tied up 3 people for 3hrs cause they had no clue...so I kinda
was the chump

of the 3 2 we're supposed branch managers...what a joke

so I feel your pain probably in the same boat....and if it does bounce and knc does not get cleared in time for $$$ back i'll likely miss the boat too on the 2nd Neptune

just goes to show bitcoin would work a lot better in all this but not gonna touch my hoard on speculating april 2014 fiat yes bitcoin at the moment no

sucks

let us know how it goes

  that 2xfull kits that was 1.6kusd and damn everyone is looking to add more hashrate power.  Gox is hitting 400usd for btc.