If you have been here in the forum for some time already then you had just witnessed a great history for bitcoin. Way back when bitcoin is not yet that recognized these people had already valued bitcoin and already believe in its worth together with Nakamoto's motto in regards with the fiat currency which he thinks that there is really  a huge problem in it. However,  Fiat is not really bad in the economy it is the people who made it bad and that we need bitcoin to make some balancing in the world of currencies.

Is there a way to calculate how much the btc market price knowing that 20% of the btc are lost or forgotten? I wanted to know the bitcoin market price. Actuay it has been said here a million times about demand and supply for btc that determine its market price. But it never did disclose how it was done. Anyway, hopefully I can get some answers in the replies or maybe I should start a thread in regard to this matter.

Well, I could get use a help from anyone here expressing also their thought about the topic and that means I still need to grow and improve my way and quality of posting here. I am always thankful for some replies may it be in addition or criticism. All of it will be part of learning so for me it will matter. I think I may need to make a clearer picture to deliver some of the content of my post.
Correct. I never thought of this actually becuase I never use cloud storage for security purposes. It so hard to trust anybody or any platform like cloud storage.

You are absolutely right. This is just a simple form of scamming but way effective.

In addition with the thread, there are actually many ways to observe and to be cautios. So never get to fall in a trap and that is why you need the bitcointalk forum tha we can use as a medium to share knowledge and experience of among others that we something we could learn on.

Well, I could get use a help from anyone here expressing also their thought about the topic and that means I still need to grow and improve my way and quality of posting here. I am always thankful for some replies may it be in addition or criticism. All of it will be part of learning so for me it will matter. I think I may need to make a clearer picture to deliver some of the content of my post.
Correct. I never thought of this actually becuase I never use cloud storage for security purposes. It so hard to trust anybody or any platform like cloud storage.

You are absolutely right. This is just a simple form of scamming but way effective.

In addition with the thread, there are actually many ways to observe and to be cautios. So never get to fall in a trap and that is why you need the bitcointalk forum tha we can use as a medium to share knowledge and experience of among others that we something we could learn on.

It does to electrum too pinned in google ads when you make a research about electrum wallet. Well, bitcoiners should be more careful always as we all know that for the scammers and hackers are easy to create fake wallet apps, fake sites and the likes. So keep always being aware and cautious not only in cryptocurrency but also in other areas where funds should be kept as it should be expected not getting compromise with these phishers and scammers around.

Because many people wanted to earn even if it means risking their money believing to bitcoin. And as bitcoin being bought with fiat currency it becoming has a value traded vice versa. And seeing bitcoin market price as demand increases it then decided that bitcoin could be a means of investment. This is where bitcoin market price move and becoming so high as demand increases and  many are seeing bitcoin as an investment form.

Sometimes you will going to realize that money or bitcoin is not important because there are things that money or bitcoin can't buy. However, these instrument could also be mean a medium for happiness if not being controlled bynthese instruments. Other people tend to become greedy because of money and money had been making controlled to them especially when doing a decision making money over humanity. Well, bitcoin is more than 30K$ but what is it really all about having that bitcoin markey price for bitcoin?

It will becoming more volatile once bitcoin supply move a little like people buying or selling since almost all supply had been already liquidated then bitcoin market price will be greatly affected. Well, this is actually good for the day traders. But I would not be suggesting to any newbie wanted to become a day trader because bitcoin market price prediction is very difficult to predict. However, others are earning in day trading due to the fact that they are having bots working for them to trade automatically for them.

As what others had told the supply will matter because it will dictates the bitcoin market price and if there are demands bitcoin market will becoming more expensive and this is what happening to bitcoin right now. Bitcoin experience shortage of supply already and this is the reason why bitcoin market price is so high. This is how the economics demand and supply work way back in the secondary school subjects. This is also what happen when there is a shortage of food supply. Food will becoming more expensive.

It will take more time to develop such computer. For now it could be consider as fiction like the earlier scientist where they predicted the invention of flying vehicles and even they were called as crazy before thinking of such impossible to happen. But it did and airplane was being invented. Now in regards to quantum computer, it will be complicated and will going to require devices compressed already to a minimal size with powerful designs of circuits that will going to run as  quantum computer.

I get your point. In my opinion with the current market of bitcoin, bitcoin now had already evolve and bitcoin now will not be consider as a new digital currency for it is already spreading all over around the world. The point where bitcoin will be had two options either bitcoin will continue to rise or as what OP had said that btc could be dying already after all the greedy people trying to make money in it and that will reap bitcoin system maybe now or might be in the future. Well, no one will going to know what will going to happen with bitcoin.

We will going to see what could happen with bitcoin.  There are news that some millionaire's bitcoin had been stuck in hardware wallet forgetting about the password he made. Well, I guess he can still recover it knowing he is rich and I think he can hire someone to force access into account that if it is possible. BTW, the current market of bitcoin is doing good but it could be a trap and sudden market will going to fall. Bitcoin is really unpredictable it s hard to make a right guess for the bitcoin market price movement.

ETH if we will be talking about altcoins. There is no other altcoins except ethereum has high yield for now following bitcoin. However, I think before the bitcoin bull run there are news about other altcoins with low supply that has been easily pump up by the investors letting small time investors earn more. YFI was the name of the coin. Well, good for those who were able to participate in that coin. Pretty sure it is one of the high yield altcoins havin a price of more than 30K$ per YFI.

There are tons of airdrop you can join and earn free coins in their promotional activity by participating and completing the task. There are some that after holding for some time it reach high market value just being stored a lot of those coins in which others think that are not useful. However, I see a wallet that reaches total of 200$ with just those combine coins in the wallet having 2$-10$ value of the variety coins.

Pay with bitcoin if it is really needed. In my case hiring an escort is not really necessary just to spend bitcoin. Bitcoin be hold instead of spending and its best way is for savings, asset or investment. If it is in your way to hire an escort then good for you. Anyway, the best way to pick an escort is to meet them personally. The picture and in personal sightings is a little bit different.

Do not make life more complicated. Just do whatever you can do to try and solve your problems. Remember that you are not alone for there are other too like myself also had some debts but I do not like to worry about it instead I only enjoy life what has been given to me. As long as you have your family living together, being happy just enough to fees the family then that will do. In mu case I was still considered myself lucky able to apply signature campaign that pays btc. Do it is not enough but it is very helpful.

Regulations is the greatest threat for bitcoin because of the bitcoiners identity possible exposure especially in the KYC process. KYC is really one of the most dangerous form of process that has been mandated by the exchanges. Bitcoin had been created for decentralization and anonymity but it has slowly change due to KYC procedure. However, KYC has a good purpose so if it can do more good than harm then let it be.

Wow great attitude but I think it would be ambitous to think that bitcoin can really go into 200K$. I know it is possible but you should also know that it will going to take some time. Why not play along the up and down for bitcoin? 40K$ was really a good market price in selling it just like what others do. For now, I can sense bitcoin ca go down to 20K$ or probably lower than that and the next time bull run will going to take some time.

Bounty hunting is the common thing to do in order to earn.  You can visit this section of the forum for bounties,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=238.0

There you can have a good start but mind you that there are so many scam and it would likely pay you in your work. However, if you are lucky to join a good project then you can earn. The scheme is like work and luck scheme to earn big. You need to work but you also need luck.

I will never try to ask someone to join in bitcoin investment. I only talk or start a conversation when I do seeing some activities of him posted like in facebook about crypto activities. I will then ask if they are able to know about the forum and if they aren't I will try to introduce him the forum. But then, I will let them explore the forum and told them to ask for my help when they need it. So far, they are doing good now at the moment.