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So is Sendgrid and getresponse increasing spam?

People don't understand anything here. I'm pretty certain that most of the people here don't know how it is to actually take risk (if they even know what risk actually means), or even work for money rather than begging for it or expecting it to grow on trees. This is exactly why a lot people here end up burning themselves in the worst possible way.

I do like bots, but I'm just too paranoid to use one myself, because I can't sleep not knowing how the market will trash whatever my bot was up to.

I do wonder though, with how most of these 'mass produced' bots continue to gain more traction within this market, there could very well be an incentive for those behind the development of these bots to sell that information to market makers and whatnot. From there it's very easy to fool these bots continuously, because you know exactly what they are programmed to do.

Yeah, I don't think the good bots ever really promised to make people profits on themselves. What people were selling and "guaranteeing" were their strategies, using the bot to autopilot. Gunbot I recall distinctly was meant to aim for very low daily profits, based on rapid buying and selling - not something all bots were able to do at the time.

The bot software is one thing and bots do have usefulness for testing (and at time executing) rapid-closing strategies.

If these trading bots were guaranteed money making machine then there would be no need to sell it.  The creators would just use it themselves and make large gains.  They know it doesn't work half the time and it is essentially useless in a unpredictable market.

That really is a sign of the times. I know the standard's always been the tenth off, but more than half price is some indication that they no longer work, or merely make it a step or two more convenient than just having your own automated strategies.

Bitcoin price really shouldn't have played a part, it's the volatility that's key, the way I understand daily trading with these bots (anything weekly or more doesn't to me seem to require bots!).

Might be more of a case that all strategies worked during the '17 bull. And all no longer working in current precipitation.

Not really.
In their primetime a license for one of these bots was 1000$+ i think, and i never really had the need for something to automate my trades.

They're kind off on their way out it looks like now that bitcoin has fallen so much in price. I see people offering Gunbot licenses for 50-70% off.

I must be a dinosaur myself, then, @SlowDeath... and even worse, I didn't recognise any of the bots listed by OP. Ask me now and I can only remember Gunbot that's the most popular on this forum (and also if I recall rightly, on BH forum). The only other bot I can name is for martingale on dice sites haha.

I know bots are still popular, but there were a few platforms in 2017 that encouraged people to sell their strategies rather than the bots itselves on marketplaces. You basically buy or rent the strategy for your bot, and then you could create your own and put them up for sale too.

Also all those AI trading algorithms.

Wonder where they've all gone to?

Hmmm. I've never heard of any of the bots listed here. The only bots that i know, and are i *think* are also the ones that are most popular, are both C.A.T.[1] and GUNBOT[2].

Both of which you seem to not include..? Why?

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=507103.0
[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1715214.0

Bots lets you trade even if you are not around but it doesn't mean sure profit. I once used a bot to trade for me but the result isn't satisfying as I expected and I didn't use it afterwards. If people are more familiar by trading manually, so be it but bots just make it easy for you, about the profit its just the same

after seeing this post I felt like I was in the age of the dinosaurs, will these bots bring better results in relation to doing trade manually? months ago I read about the bots, but I got bored and gave up. But looking at your post has made me wonder if there is any advantage in using these bots. Because what comes in my head is:

- Why do they sell these bots? Will not it be easier for bot owners to use themselves instead of selling?

- Do the owners of these bots use their bots?

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