Welcome to the forum discussion Tobson2!  Great to see somebody involved in the project directly fanning the questions.  I was just preparing a bunch of emails to send out to you and your compatriots on the team!  Guess I needn't bother since you are here anyway So what would you say puts this project above the other AI driven crypto savings products, and what assurances can you offer that the coin/tokens will retain their value after the ICO ends.  I ask because PCL users were stung hard on the final day, so obviously we want to see a project with the same excellent promise but with a better level of assurance for our hard earned savings capital! Thanks in advance

No problem us crypto nerds should imitate the AI, as in link together as a massive decentralised computer for unhashing rofit tactics I'm contacting some of the project leaders today too so should have some quotes to post if they get back to me!

Hello all!

Seems like we have another suedo-AI based crypto savings product to consider!  Looking at the website I think it's fair to say that a great deal of thought and effort has gone into this one.  To view the official website go here ( https://ico.savedroid.com/ ), annd to see their initial YouTube on the product please go here ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRDK5aqiP1U ).

I shall give you a little break down of the white paper, though I advise any investors to do what I just did and read it in full yourself!  Here it is :

THE SAVEDROID WHITE PAPER BREAKDOWN (Read 28/1 version 1)
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1) THE VISION : Is to offer an AI based crypto saving platform that is easy to use for anybody, is simple and can offer better security than others as it is based on German financial legal protections.

2 ) CONTROLS : The user control has settings where you type in how much you would like to save, and it will adjudge based on what you type, and suggest how and where you save that money for max profits.

3 ) DEMOGRAPHIC : This product is largely aimed at 25-35yr old professionals who want to save upwards of $50-100 per month, and look for a better return than the 2-3% savings accounts offer.

4 ) AUTOMATION : This product can be set up to automatically debit your account (currency) and convert this into coins in your saving account, as well as report on your spending habits via email.

5 ) MANAGEMENT : The board is mainly made up of people with actual financial and technology backgrounds, and is linked with several German financial blue chips.

6 ) ANTI DISCRIMINATION : The coins and products on offer, are and I quote "Sharia law compliant" and so are more than likely to be heavily backed in Islamic countries as well as Western.

7 ) YOU WHAT NOW? : The way they avoid falling foul of Sharia is by not paying dividends or interest, so the gains are purely on the speculation of rates and buying low / selling high.

8 ) OPENING EXCHANGE RATE : From the opening day the coin value is fixed at 100 SVD = 1 EURO / 0.85 USD (at todays exchange rate on Google, EURO to USD)


There you have it, the entire white paper boiled down to the 8 most important points Please drop your merits in the hat.  Happy investing!

In keeping with my earlier rumours about corporates getting into investing in Cryptos; a major firm in the UK (who are also the owner of the football club Arsenal) have decided to go public with their plans to invest large sums in Cryptocurrency this year.  This comes through their millionaire owner Stan Kroenke who funnily enough has property in Sweden and that's where the majority of the money will go to buy crypto company stocks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42809676

BBC are reporting on it so I can finally say there is some official statements and proof yaay.  More to come...  This will cause a rise in rates over the next few days and hopefully when they plough the money in, a bigger rise at the beginning of March.

Has anybody noticed that the white paper has been updated, some chunks are removed and some are changed.  I wonder does anybody have a backed up snapshot copy of the old one so I can compare it and release a changelog?  Thanks

Is there a page dedicated to this on the official website?  For SEO purposes as well as netting possible scam targets and converting them to legit clients of PCL trades - I do think this is necessary and should be facilitated as soon as possible by the team!

Maybe a news item that links to a separate page with instructions how to report scams, and how to invest legitimately with links to the buying buttons.  People are in such a rush to get into this PCL trading that they are going to spend their coins in scams and then will not invest!  Definitely think it's worth setting this up quickly.

Sorry to quote myself like this, but NOW is the massive dip I was referring to; the BTC and ETH prices are like a whole 10% down, so if you are using these to buy PCLs you will get a fat load of free ones as the conversion is so low at the moment!

Seriously guys there is no better time than now (22:42 UK time) the current price as of this minute is -11% of what it was this morning for BTC and ETH.  Get all over that!  I know I am Also the 10% bonus on PCL counts and it all adds up nicely.

The gain of using VISA is the same reason they charge a fee!!  It is the VISA guarantee, if you accidentally get your account phished and all your money is stolen, or if you accidentally use a scam fake site or something, ,then they immediately pay all your money back to you the same day you report it and then investigate the scam for you.

I think they are € 0.01 each before you count down from the 10% discount (if you get it).  Also you might be able to gain something depending on how you pay for it, though I would say where possibly ALWAYS use your debit card to get that magical VISA guarantee

Good luck and welcome in!  Us Crypto investors will rule the world soon enough **wrings hands** Lol.

Can anybody tell me where Peculium publish the graphs for the AI prediction successes?  I keep seeing GIF graphs but on their website there is no way to actually view these or download them.  Where are they coming from, and can Peculium add a section to their website with some sort of log of their predictions or even a live prediction table for account holders?

Thanks, that would be a great feature and would make it a far easier proposition to sell to people who are not technical people aka the ones who cannot understand or can't be bothered learning about it in depth.  Visual aids make these things far easier!

How do we find out about airdrops and other things like this upfront?  I am sure the website probably listed this information but I would have literally launched myself at this had I known early enough and also the 50% bonus!  Kind of sucks when investors like me who are super interested do not find out when the best offers are on.

Maybe I was looking in the wrong places, where do you suggest I look for this sort of thing in future?  Peculium offers too but other things these guys may be doing / planning?  Thanks in advance.

BTC id down 12% there is your wobble dip, im gonna grab a bunch ....

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The long term predictions even general ones are the ones I am more interested in, as I know most of the market are short term skimmmers - that's fine I have made decent returns doing that, but I see it as the riskier of the two and more work.  Buying initial offerings of coins on the cheap then selling them incrementally years later is my new thing So a savings system which incorporates cryptos is compelling for me.

That's why I became interested in this project to begin with!

Yeah that's true, but I don't make preditions if I don't feel fairly confident on them.  I have a good track record recently so that's why I am confident, but that's also why all my posts allude to the fact that investments can go down as well as up!  Just don't wade in with more than you can afford to, and be smart and it's always gonna end well.

For instance, your gut feeling is that I might be wrong here so just don't follow that prediction - do your own or find one that motivates your confidence.  This is how proper investing should work, nobody is killing themselves with risk but at the same time feeling confident of good returns

I am under the impression from what I read into on that white paper - that the AI prediction uses forecasts and data trackers from a lot of financial sources like share index, interest rate tracker, coin conversation and coin sell prices, but as well as that it has input from actual people.  So that is why I think if that is used correctly it could have a massive edge.

Also the prediction success rate they currently boast is flippin awesome so it's not out of the bounds of reasonable assumption that this AI system could be as smart as a person who is using a computer for data collection.  In fact that's pretty much what I would call the perfect system.  Machine tools under command of a persons intellect.  Pretty cool.

What's your take on the AI and how far it can predict?  I would love to hear your views as so far nobody has really given me anything, so its all white paper plus speculation from my own perspective.  Always useful to hear another learned persons opine on the subject.

No that's not at all what the comment says.  I am saying that if it can predict events that do not exist solely in financial data sets such as sociopolitical events then I will be super impressed because I don't think that is currently something any other AI has or is doing. 

Continued info about international crypto funds for corporate and government investment :

I have been sent a press release by Blockchain EXPO giving the dates on which The Cryptocurrency And BlockChain Conference delegation will be visiting each locale, with the  intent to spread information and drum up further support for cryptocurrency commercial operations.  The people who are invited to these conferences are all heavily invested financial staff of big corporations, bank agents, politicians, and the heads of other businesses who wish to be involved with future projects.  This is more compelling evidence of what I was saying earlier about the movement of financial institutions of these countries into crypto funding.  Here is the date list which is actually 100% confirmed although tickets are invite only so there isn't any way to buy them if you are not already invited to do so.

Manila 25/1/18
Gibraltar 8/2/18
St Petersburg 13/3
Geneva 21/2/18  
Bengaluru 22/2/18
Minsk 27/2/18  
Istanbul 1/3/18
Bangkok 6/3/18
Tallinn 22/3/18
Tel Aviv 28/3/18  
Kiev 29/3/18
Berlin 4/4/18  
Moscow 17/4/18 and 18/4/18  
Prague 17/5/18

Companies that are confirmed to be attending, who have plans for crypto investments this year are as follows (not exhaustive) :

BrickBlock Ltd. (German Crypto company with associated coin)
EasyMINE Ltd. (Polish Crypto farming technology company)
REGA Risk Sharing (European risk management and portfolio investment company)
SingularityU (Think tank for technology and finance segments)
Apla CZS (Cyber Security & commercial platform testing company)
Safello (Network probing and security device company)
BlockGeeksLabs.Net (Website concerning the crypto industry)
TenX (Cryptocurrency and investment fund business)
Tachyonic LLC (Legal management company of high value investments internationally)
Lynx Capita (Another high value investment company)
GrandCentral.Trading (Web platform for crypto trading)
Mathias Sundin (Parliament member for Sweden, Chairman of BitCoin Exchange & Co-Partner of WARP Institute)
Georgio Ballini (UN Ambassador and trade relations expert)
Fernando Guiterrez (European Parliament member and trade expert)
Carolina Martowicz (IBM Co Director & Co Founder of their Academy Of Technology)
Sofya Blakstaad (Advisor to Stokholm Fintek Exchange)
Eric Benz (Manager and Tech Director at CryptoPay)

So there you have it, officially recognisable evidence that these countries and the commercial operations hailing from them are getting BIG into crypto investments this year and next year - with the intent of building a new industry and markets in there (farming, trading, investment).  More than likely this is something the PCL team know about and might well be in attendance at!  Of course though as with industry secrets nobody will be telling.

But since I am not able to attend I can happily confirm this information from the official invite.

Here is a note taken from the invite :

"We  focus on Sweden and foreign projects implementing Blockchain and cryptocurrencies. Experts  share their experience of implementing Blockchain in governmental institutions (Govtech), banking system, trading, media, healthcare and other spheres. We  discuss all the aspects of creating innovative IT products – from the emergence of idea to entering the market.

The main participants are IT developers, entrepreneurs, investors, software and equipment manufacturers. The speakers are managers of the well-known companies and representatives of governmental authorities."

These guys are tighted lipped so there is no official news on it to source- if they started telling other people they would lose investment value to them so they don't tell much they are not legally enforced elsewhere to tell about.

The way you can see it for yourself, and speculate accurately is to look at their financial figures on the different markets and compare that to the crypto pricing markets.  If you know what you are doing you can see when they start shifting funds out for transfer, and spot new funds when they become available "unspecified" - and then join the dots.  The movement of med to big money affects stock markets oil and gold trackers the lot.  Because the movement of cash is what powers the entire world economy.

The same thing if you see an empty billboard go up in town, you know some advertiser is gonna move in, so it's a ccase of who would benefit most and whos got the money.  With crypto markets they DO have to release a fair bit of information that you can collage into information without needing confirmatiion officially.  So it's about knowing who's doing what and looking like they will move into crypto, then figuring out where.  China goofed them by releasing a bunch of info in the press last week and probably will do that again!

And I Called Sweden, Switzerland, and German all getting in big on cryptos this year - Denmark Canada and very possibly Britain too!  Look at Nvidia slyly changing their terms on GPUs so that you are not allowed to use them for datacentres now UNLESS its crytpo farming!

They know whats up because somebody on the board there ha big money on it and they are moving into these new areas and THAT is why they changed up their rules....  I will keep the board up to date with any more "rumour" as I find it

I posted before a few days ago that I already heard from residents there, that Switzerland and also Sweden are gearing up for commercial crypto projects [including Peculium] who are coming in from China - so I would not be surprised when these take hold and generate good succesess, if the US and UK didnt follow suit.

After all if all the others are at the party and you can turn up on your own initiative you probably would yet?

Rumour has it that Swiss Bank is about to invest a large sum in cryptos, with Peculium on the alleged list of coins to be taken on...  If this is true we will see a rise in general coin prices this week starting on Monday!

So the Peculium AI, it obviously has a big-data range and decent processing abilities, plus it is partially controlled by intelligent human operators.  So I am thinking, does this mean it will have a real intellectual element such as that a human expert would have?  Rather than just predicting stuff from financial graphs and economic forecasts like all the other AI's I am thinking this might actually lookk at geopolitical and social events and use these to add to the compute pool - if this is what it does the prediction for zero day or random events will be far higher.  Any body know anything here???  

Look at the people who develop thiis AI, then think what their speciality or industry background is!  I'm now wondering if the Peculium AI will be expecting the rise in BTC after the Easter holidays, to somewhere near to $1600 - and the associated rises in all other cryptos as a result Also I wonder if this AI will foresee the slight faltering of the ETH rates during this period, as people switch their ETHs into other coins, and other coins into BTCs to withdraw as cash for taking their kids / wives on holiday!  Because to have predicted these you would have to have considered the changes in international laws regarding finance as well as the Sweden/Swiss investment rumours!  Is that even possible?

I will be super impressed if they do get this right, if they do better than my own manually drawn prediction chart I will literally be gobsmacked.  Any predicction engine that can beat a relatively experienced human deserves a LOT more attention in the media than Peculium is currently getting.

Let's keep our eyes on that!  So far the hype and the news is all good, well if this challenge can be risen to by Peculium's AI then I would predict a huge flood of investments even at lower bonus values.  Intriguing!