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Re: Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto
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flatt
on 21/03/2025, 13:01:05 UTC
Sorry to say why has this been repeating itself over the time, sincerely if I am not mistakenly this topics and comparison has been raised several times now and yet no meaningful arguments was made from it and yet they still kept repeating this same post and comparison.
Hal finney is not Satoshi nakamoto the better we have peace over the time.

Just giving a little respect to the creator in a forum dedicated to what he created, is that too much?
There are some mental disorders in someone who wants to be recognized but doesn't want to be known.
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Re: Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto
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flatt
on 21/03/2025, 12:42:17 UTC
You gave me a link to a ridiculous statement that points to proof of sending emails and bitcoins from Satoshi to Mike Hearn while Hal was running a marathon.
I think anyone can send emails at their own time and emails can be sent while doing other things if the goal is to disguise their identity.
If you read all of that blog post, you would see that there are more proofs than just a Bitcoin transaction and the marathon participation.

Your reply makes me feeling like you only scroll down a little bit from a blog post title and skip remaining parts of the blog post with more proofs as follow.

Singularity Summit 2010
The IP Address
Satoshi's Email to Martti Malmi (Sirius)
Inconsistencies in Coding Styles
Inconsistencies in Personas
Inconsistencies in Activity Gaps

I was quite surprised because it turns out there are people who respond like this  Grin
I was only responding that marathon "incident" because probably that is the most arguably things

1. Singularity Summit 2010?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2436;sa=showPosts
I suggest you to see for yourself how active HalFinney is until 2013.
2. Satoshi's Email to Martti Malmi (Sirius)
Anyone can do the same camouflage, right?
3. Inconsistencies in Coding Styles
Answered above my post (Your reply makes me feeling like you only scroll down a little bit from this post and doing instant reply skipping the facts above.)
4. Inconsistencies in Personas
Everybody has a private world, guess what about Hal Finney? Satoshi Nakamoto is his private world.
5. Inconsistencies in Activity Gaps
Answered above my post (Your reply makes me feeling like you only scroll down a little bit from this post and doing instant reply skipping the facts above.)



We will never know the real reasons of his disappearance.
There is no any other good reason that Satoshi retired from the project at that particular time.
No reason at all, except his health issue.



This sounds really strange.
recognize the signs.
Won't you recognize the sign?
http://lesswrong.com/lw/1ab/dying_outside/

That's my story. Travel is very difficult for me now.
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Re: Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto
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flatt
on 21/03/2025, 09:04:12 UTC
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If we are talking about RPOW and Bitcoin code, can you tell me where the significant differences are?
There are many different things.

1. Hal used multi line comments "/**/", while Satoshi used single line comments "//".
2. Hal added a new line after function return type, while Satoshi put it in the same line.
3. Hal used pointers "*" from C, while Satoshi used references "&" from C++.
4. Hal used Apple preprocessor macros, while Satoshi used Windows preprocessor defines.
5. Hal wrote it in C, while Satoshi used many features from C++ standard library, for example std::pair and std::map.

And so on, and so forth. The code is written in a completely different style, using completely different tools, and even different Operating Systems.

Even if you compare Satoshi's code in C, from the whitepaper, then it is formatted in a completely different way, than Hal's code in C.

With the differences you mentioned, is it impossible for someone like HalFinney who has experience with the concept to do it?
HalFinney developed RPOW in 2004, is 4-5 years not enough time for someone like HalFinney to implement it in another way?
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Re: Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto
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flatt
on 21/03/2025, 08:50:58 UTC
1. Satoshi vanished just about the same time Hal Finney was diagnosed with the terminal disease ALS. There is no any other good reason that Satoshi retired from the project at that particular time.
It's been speculated that satoshi disappeared around the time the CIA became interested in Bitcoin. Gavin Andresen wrote that he was invited to present Bitcoin to the CIA. Satoshi stopped being active around that time I think. One might say that he wasn't comfortable having the CIA look more closely into his work so he handed over control to other developers and left.

Whatever his reasons for disappearing were, I guess we will never find out.

"Uncomfortable" is a common excuse to hide something. He handed over control of Bitcoin to another developer because he knew ALS was not a disease that would allow him to live more than 5 years.
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Re: Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto
by
flatt
on 21/03/2025, 08:32:01 UTC
This is probably the 80th time this comparison has been made, just here, on this forum. But I'd like to address this claim in particular as its the one that is unfamiliar:

Why not fix the overheating problem then? Because no such problem existed in the first place.

He wasn't necessarily worried about "overheating", he said it made his "computer run hot" and the fan noise bothered him. He had accrued at least several thousand BTC during his time as a miner... wouldn't that be enough to call it quits on something that really didn't have a lot of utility while he was alive and active?


Regardless, of course overheating was a problem, and it couldn't easily be solved by code changes.

My point on that statement is:
Hal said he reported bugs to Satoshi and Satoshi fixed them, why Hal never mentioned this problem to Satoshi? Instead, he is trying to fix this by himself,
https://i.ibb.co/dwLYGrxQ/Capture.jpg

HalFinney discovered this problem as early as January 2009, and you cite reports from others about "overheating" in May 2010.
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Re: Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto
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flatt
on 21/03/2025, 07:58:41 UTC

I guess it's better to rest this case, Bitcoin and me (Hal Finney).



1. Satoshi vanished just about the same time Hal Finney was diagnosed with the terminal disease ALS. There is no any other good reason that Satoshi retired from the project at that particular time.

Don't just work by some of your fake theories in confusing the public about the real state of things here, Satoshi is not Hal Finney, maybe you have forgotten that the same Satoshi made the first ever bitcoin transaction to Hal Finney in testing on how bitcoin transaction could be, secondly they both left the forum doesn't mean they are one single entity, each has his own separate account on Bitcointalk and you can't confirm your claim by any of them signing a message, so if this can't be established, then disregard any assumptions that may cause confusion for you, Satoshi is not Hal Finney.

I think everybody only able to make an assumption about who is Satoshi, what makes you think there will be legit proofs? Do you have any counter to my assumption above? You've mentioned "fake theories", can you quote one with proof? Otherwise you can stop cause confusion for yourself in the public
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Re: Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto
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flatt
on 21/03/2025, 07:46:30 UTC
You gave me a link to a ridiculous statement that points to proof of sending emails and bitcoins from Satoshi to Mike Hearn while Hal was running a marathon.
I think anyone can send emails at their own time and emails can be sent while doing other things if the goal is to disguise their identity.

If we are talking about RPOW and Bitcoin code, can you tell me where the significant differences are?
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Re: Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto
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flatt
on 21/03/2025, 07:28:50 UTC
RIP Legend
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Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto
by
flatt
on 21/03/2025, 07:09:31 UTC

1. Satoshi vanished just about the same time Hal Finney was diagnosed with the terminal disease ALS. There is no any other good reason that Satoshi retired from the project at that particular time.

2. Hal Finney has shown with the PGP project that he was able to turn a good idea into a working software project. He has shown with his running a remailer that he cared deeply about the main reason for developing Bitcoin, which is helping privacy with code.

3. Hal Finney had expert knowledge about the problem of concealing an identity. When denying being Satoshi later on, he produced an e-mail conversation with his "sockpuppet" Satoshi. He would be expected to do exactly that. Having experience with government censure of PGP, he would not want to be exposed to similar criminal prosecution for the Bitcoin project. And having been on record predicting $10 million per bitcoin in January 2009, he was certainly aware of the potential of drawing the unwanted attention of criminals to his wealth early on.

4. Anyone smart enough to come up with Bitcoin certainly would have heard about RPOW in 2008. Not citing it in the whitepaper is an obvious clue that he wanted to avoid calling attention to his real identity.

5. When denying being Satoshi, Hal Finney said that he was more familiar with coding in C, as opposed to the coding style used by Satoshi. Doesn't add up. Guess what language is used in the coding section of the whitepaper? Yes. It was C.

6. Hal Finney is on record for having exactly the same opportunity to mine early bitcoins as his sockpuppet Satoshi. His story later is that he stopped mining after a while because he was worried about his computer overheating. Sure. A lifelong dream to create e-cash. $10 million per coin predicted. But worried about a computer overheating. If there really was such a problem at the time, obviously Hal Finney would have been able to solve it in less than five minutes fully drunk and half asleep. Or Satoshi could have fixed it for him. Hal said he reported bugs to Satoshi and Satoshi fixed them. Why not fix the overheating problem then? Because no such problem existed in the first place. If that part is clearly a false statement, one wonders what else he might have tried to hide?

I'm comfortable with my legacy.
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Re: hello need help technical support please !
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flatt
on 19/03/2025, 08:40:48 UTC
we're re tell the question...

Where I can do this ?

On my best luck to what I do search...

Restore my keys or wallet bitcoin core !

Thanks

You cannot do anything with corrupt wallet.dat