So, my unsolicited attempted buyout arrived, FedEx was able to find/google/call me even though that thing was sent to a nonexisting street adress (yes, in fact: "650 Castro St", located here in Berlin/Germany).

As From-address they listed:

Refunds@Hashfast.com
100 Bush Street
San Francisco, CA 94104
USA

(So this seems to be "the" confirmed address of them, btw.)

at least that's what the lady on the phone told me, yes. i'll see for sure tomorrow ..

fedex just called and told me they've got a letter for me that they were unable to deliver, because it's adressed to

(my name)
650 castro street
(zip & city, etc)

which hasn't got the slightest bit to do with my real street adress. of course. i'll let them deliver that thing to my real adress tomorrow, but i guess it will a "plus one" for the "refund cheque scam"-list. (batch 1 customer, located in germany, paid in btc, requested refund in btc. same old.)

just to let you know. if someone's keeping track.

you have to stop "thinking" in USD. hashfast received BTC and shouldv'e kept those, for refunds. simple as that. they don't care about other currency's value, so we don't as well.

today while browsing through "@hasfast"-mentions on twitter, i noticed this one guy, asking for support from hashfast and including his bugtracker-id in one of his tweets. which automatically puts all of his conversation publicly online (his fault, kind of, but something tells me at least that this is not the way you should setup a bugtracker) .. well.

but the interesting bits are:

a) in here hashfast actually confirms one of their postal addresses (the one in san jose);

b) there ARE people, apparently, who order more hardware from hashfast even in january of 2014 (last week, actually);

c) here's an order-confirmation (linked pdf) for a babyjet (batch 1) with a delivery deadline of january 31st (!) mentioned - this is the first time i'm seeing one of those. bottom of page 1. though in the attached terms of sale on page 2 this is contradicted by a delivery deadline on december 31st (as we all know), so ..

(this keeps getting .. weirder. funnier. sadder. is that even a word? ah, whatever. i propose "it keeps getting hashfaster" as a new term. describing something that's so stupid and dumb and sad at the same time that there's no other word to say it.)

between 40 and 60 BTC, depending on when you bought it.

yes.

but, once again: the only possible way of paying was bitcoins, at the time of my order.

i bought an item from a store for (roughly) 50 BTC. i don't "think" in US-dollars. the price, for me, was 50 BTC. i don't care that the US-dollar's worth has declined since when i paid for my miner, i don't care for any other currency except the one that i had to use for this exact payment.

and, yes, if the "price" (of bitcoins, versus USD) had dropped since then, i still would want my bitcoins back. of course!?

i've got serious interests, but i don't believe in group efforts when they'd have to be coordinated internationally, i'm afraid - even less so when it comes to law-stuff.

at least it's getting clearer (for me, personally) that i WILL ask for a refund instead of accepting some hardware at this point. and according to "my" terms of service, the asking-for-refunds-window started today and is open until january 15th, and i'm taking that time to (hopefully) do it right. i'm in contact with a local (german, as far as i'm concerned) lawyer to get some advice how to react (from me to hashfast, directly) in a way that's hopefully/kinda unimpeachable - asking for a refund in btc, full amount that i paid back in november. only afterwards i'll think about suing (or taking other legal actions), i.e. if that other stuff doesn't work.

(hi, btw, first post here -- i'm one of the batch1-customers as well. ordered and paid on september 2nd, in btc, in the same boat as you all are, apparently.)


i guess i will be ging for a refund - but will check with my lawyer first (sent him all the details just yesterday, waiting for advice now. i guess due to national holidays this won't happen before thursday though.

if i'd be located in the united states, i guess i would be willing to "sue the hell out of them" in case it's necessary (= in case they won't refund in btc), but as i'm located in europe (germany) that makes it a hell of a lot more difficult. though i don't wanna let them "win", i MAY be going to "easy" route (as someone said before - too much other stuff ging on in life, i don't want this to be the main topic in my upcoming months). difficult decision.

i'll wait and see what my lawyer suggests.

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btw, to sum a few replies up: i've received an order confirmation shortly after ordering, though no "terms of sale" attached. i'm relying on the one posted here somewhere, from around september 1st. which is, weirdly enough, the one *without* the december-31st-date as deadline. either way, i contacted hashfast back in november already about a refund - not knowing about any deadlines - and they just ignored my email apparently.