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Re: [Download New Wallets] Clean Water Coin | $2,000 Donated to Charity: Water
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free_istheway
on 02/07/2014, 05:57:29 UTC
OMG, "asic resistant algos" - LOL there is no such thing.

ASICs (Application Specific Integrated Circuits) are simply a chip that has been designed to perform one function very well and very quickly. It has been done for SHA256, it has been done for Scrypt
and it can be done for any algorithm.

If everyone switches to X11 then guess what? There will soon be X11 ASICs. I would hazard a guess that somewhere in China there is already one being designed. The only difference between X11 and Scrypt is that it doesn't stress GPUs as much meaning they run cooler and use less power, which I agree is a good thing but it doesn't mean much else. ASICs already use a fraction of the power of GPUs and produce next to no heat. And hash-for-hash don't cost much more. Remember, GPUs are not designed for mining coins but for playing games so whatever algorithm is used they will never be the most efficient way of doing it.

When you talk about 'centralisation' you seem to be referring only to miners - cryptocoins are not there just to make miners money you know, they are supposed to be USED as currencies without any interference from governments or banks etc. Their decentralised nature comes from the fact that the blockchain is downloaded and stored on individual users' computers all over the world and is not reliant on one institution. So the only requirement for someone to be involved is access to a computer or smartphone or whatever. Not everyone has to be a miner!

It is inevitable that anyone with more money to invest in the first place will be able to mine more currency for themselves, whether they are buying GPUs or ASICs. That's not the point, these currencies need to have a reason to be USED by people - which, I believe CWC has in abundance (once all the bugs are ironed out!) So moan however much you like about 'the elite' it will make no difference to you whether Scrypt, X11 or whatever is used, someone else out there will always be able to mine a lot more coins than you.

Bitcoin is now not widely mined except by the super rich as the difficulty is so high but you don't see it dying because none of us mere mortals can afford to mine it profitably do you? No, it is successful because it is USED. The only thing that makes a coin survive is its popularity. If a coin is popular and being used, the difficulty goes up which in turn makes it less profitable for everyone to mine, which in turn means more people switch to ASICs. This will happen whatever algorithm is used as it is designed into the very concept of cryptocoins. If the only reason you're into this is to make money, there are really only 2 ways you can do this- 1) Find and research a new coin which you think has potential and get in early and mine a bunch to hold onto until the price rockets (Imagine if you'd mined 10000BTC a couple of years ago when the difficulty was nice and low and held onto them!) or 2) Invest some fiat currency and do some day trading betting on which coin is going places. Neither strategy will guarantee you big bucks!

Well said!
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Re: [Download New Wallets] Clean Water Coin | $2,000 Donated to Charity: Water
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free_istheway
on 01/07/2014, 17:15:34 UTC
I finally got 1.7.0.2 to sync after many retries and experiments.

I think it may be due to one of the default nodes still being stuck at 83111   (addnode=107.170.217.4 ... this was yesterday)
It appeared that  my cleanwatercoin client was using this node, since it also kept getting stuck at 83111.

I moved wallet.dat somewhere else, and removed everything except cleanwatercoin.conf from my  ~/.cleanwatercoin directory
Removed all 'addnode=' lines and added
seednode=204.246.67.106:9340
(thanks doabitofgood.com)

Started up cleanwatercoin, and let it start syncing.
after a bit, I did:
cleanwatercoind getpeerinfo

107.170.217.4 was still on block 83111, and a couple others were not on the latest block. The rest were 84??? something..

Then stopped cleanwatercoin (well before block 83111), and changed cleanwatercoin.conf
to add connect= entries for all of the peers that were on the latest block..
Which resulted in:
connect=5.49.122.87:53591
connect=212.89.239.20:53591
connect=204.246.67.106:53591
connect=108.47.87.216:53591
connect=94.194.116.119:53591

Then I restarted cleanwatercoin-qt and it successfully synced to the latest block.
Stopped it again, removed the connect= entries, put my wallet.dat back, and it's all good...

Good luck,
-Free
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Re: [Download New Wallets] Clean Water Coin | $2,000 Donated to Charity: Water
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free_istheway
on 27/06/2014, 00:54:09 UTC
1.7.0.2

Updated Windows Wallet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9AVjo3qD9DANUo1TUZHb3k2ODQ
We will be moving it off of Google Drive and over to our server tonight, but if you want to check it out -- there she is. Wink

New Source: https://github.com/CleanWaterCoin/cleanwatercoin
• DNS Seed connections enabled
• IRC Connections disabled
• Added "posmint" configuration directive to enable/disable PoS miner
• Corrected syntax errors




Both cleanwatercoin-qt  and cleanwatercoind compiled on linux with no problems!
Thanks!
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Re: [Download New Wallets] Clean Water Coin | $2,000 Donated to Charity: Water
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free_istheway
on 26/06/2014, 23:17:20 UTC
I also tried compiling the qt client from the latest github.
I've compiled several other *coin qt clients without any problems on my system, but cleanwatercoin-qt failed everything I've tried.
with qmake/make:
make says:
:0:2: error: no macro name given in #define directive
:0:1: error: macro names must be identifiers
make: *** [build/bitcoin.o] Error 1


...


Anyway, I'm glad other issues seem to be all fixed up... I'm mining away, waiting for the 0.00000100's or better...
Thanks!


Thank you for informing me about this... It's me to blame and a stupid space character (actually 2).
I will have it fixed in the new version, but you can fix it easily if you want to build it right now.
Open your cleanwatercoin-qt.pro file

You will find this:
Code:
greaterThan(QT_MAJOR_VERSION, 4) {
    QT += widgets
DEFINES += QT_DISABLE_DEPRECATED_BEFORE = 0
}

You see the spaces after the QT_DISABLE_DEPRECATED_BEFORE?
My stupid text editor thought it would be better if it had it with spaces, so it shows up better Oo

You should change it to:

Code:
greaterThan(QT_MAJOR_VERSION, 4) {
    QT += widgets
DEFINES += QT_DISABLE_DEPRECATED_BEFORE=0
}
(remove the spaces)

That was the problem and I'm very sorry I was the cause of all your troubles...

Thanks for your quick response..
That helped!
The compile made it much further..
But alas, it got to build/bitcoin.o, and started complaining about:

build/bitcoin.o: In function `ThreadSafeHandleURI(std::string const&)':
bitcoin.cpp:(.text+0xabc): undefined reference to `QString::fromAscii(char const*, int)'
bitcoin.cpp:(.text+0xbd9): undefined reference to `QString::free(QString::Data*)'
build/bitcoin.o: In function `ThreadSafeMessageBox(std::string const&, std::string const&, int)':
bitcoin.cpp:(.text+0xc51): undefined reference to `QString::fromAscii(char const*, int)'
bitcoin.cpp:(.text+0xc68): undefined reference to `QString::fromAscii(char const*, int)'
build/bitcoin.o: In function `InitMessage(std::string const&)':
bitcoin.cpp:(.text+0xe3b): undefined reference to `QString::fromAscii(char const*, int)'
bitcoin.cpp:(.text+0xe95): undefined reference to `QString::free(QString::Data*)'
build/bitcoin.o: In function `Translate(char const*)':

.... many more complaints from bitcoingui.cpp, transactiontablemodel.cpp, and addresstablemodel.cpp
and it ended with:

addresstablemodel.cpp:(.text._ZN16AddressTablePriv19refreshAddressTableEv[_ZN16AddressTablePriv19refreshAddressTableEv]+0x3ab): undefined reference to `QString::free(QString::Data*)'
build/addresstablemodel.o: In function `QList::erase(QList::iterator, QList::iterator)':
addresstablemodel.cpp:(.text._ZN5QListI17AddressTableEntryE5eraseENS1_8iteratorES2_[_ZN5QListI17AddressTableEntryE5eraseENS1_8iteratorES2_]+0x4b): undefined reference to `QString::free(QString::Data*)'
build/addresstablemodel.o:addresstablemodel.cpp:(.text._ZN5QListI17AddressTableEntryE5eraseENS1_8iteratorES2_[_ZN5QListI17AddressTableEntryE5eraseENS1_8iteratorES2_]+0x7d): more undefined references to `QString::free(QString::Data*)' follow
build/addresstablemodel.o: In function `AddressTablePriv::updateEntry(QString const&, QString const&, bool, int)':
addresstablemodel.cpp:(.text._ZN16AddressTablePriv11updateEntryERK7QStringS2_bi[_ZN16AddressTablePriv11updateEntryERK7QStringS2_bi]+0xc9): undefined reference to `QString::operator<(QString const&) const'
addresstablemodel.cpp:(.text._ZN16AddressTablePriv11updateEntryERK7QStringS2_bi[_ZN16AddressTablePriv11updateEntryERK7QStringS2_bi]+0x171): undefined reference to `QString::operator<(QString const&) const'
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [cleanwatercoin-qt] Error 1


I can send the whole log if that would help.

Thanks
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Re: [Download New Wallets] Clean Water Coin | $2,000 Donated to Charity: Water
by
free_istheway
on 26/06/2014, 21:00:29 UTC

Attention Clean Water Coin Community,

With summer here, or right around the corner (depending on where you live), we have all been noodling the idea of switching over to X11. X11, as many of you know -- has proven to be a less expensive way to mine coins with slightly increased productivity. And so we would like to pose the question to each of you and get your feedback.

Should we hard fork and change to the X11 algorithm? Please let us know your thoughts, suggestions, or comments!! Grin

We look forward to hearing from you,
The Clean Water Coin Team

I vote for not forking again.
I think CWC has had a rough enough time gaining traction with previous forks and wallet problems that forking again is just going to be a step backward.
And then my personal selfish reason, is that I just got a couple of gridseeds (which are very energy efficient), and they don't like X11..  Wink

Hehe Wink

We actually are rolling out 1.7.0.3 very very soon which will have the nodes hardcoded in to get rid of any lingering syncing problems.

BTW, where did you get your gridseeds from? Like them so far?
1.7.0.3 sounds great! if you could smooth out the linux qt side as well, that would be extra sweet...

I actually got the gridseeds off craigslist, I like them..
I'm only running script, so I took the fans off, and they're running silent at about 4-5w each @ 340khs
Having said that, I also just ordered a couple GAW Fury's that are supposed to do 1.3mhs for about $105 each..
So we'll see how well those do when they show up..
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Re: [Download New Wallets] Clean Water Coin | $2,000 Donated to Charity: Water
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free_istheway
on 26/06/2014, 20:13:48 UTC

Attention Clean Water Coin Community,

With summer here, or right around the corner (depending on where you live), we have all been noodling the idea of switching over to X11. X11, as many of you know -- has proven to be a less expensive way to mine coins with slightly increased productivity. And so we would like to pose the question to each of you and get your feedback.

Should we hard fork and change to the X11 algorithm? Please let us know your thoughts, suggestions, or comments!! Grin

We look forward to hearing from you,
The Clean Water Coin Team

I vote for not forking again.
I think CWC has had a rough enough time gaining traction with previous forks and wallet problems that forking again is just going to be a step backward.
And then my personal selfish reason, is that I just got a couple of gridseeds (which are very energy efficient), and they don't like X11..  Wink
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Re: [Download New Wallets] Clean Water Coin | $2,000 Donated to Charity: Water
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free_istheway
on 26/06/2014, 17:59:44 UTC
Hi
I've had no luck at all getting a qt client to run on linux.
cleanwatercoind compiles with some warnings, which works for me, but it'd be nice if there was a gui available for linux.

I'm running kubuntu 13.04
The pre-compiled version complains about missing  libboost_*.so.1.48.0 libraries...
I went through an made a ton of links to from libboost_*.so.1.53.0 to 1.48.0, which got rid of those complaints, but then it ended up with:
  cleanwatercoin.6.10/cleanwatercoin-1.7.0.1-qt: symbol lookup error: ./cleanwatercoin-1.7.0.1-qt: undefined symbol: _ZN5boost11filesystem34path21wchar_t_codecvt_facetEv

Which seemed like a dead end...

I also tried compiling the qt client from the latest github.
I've compiled several other *coin qt clients without any problems on my system, but cleanwatercoin-qt failed everything I've tried.
with qmake/make:
make says:
:0:2: error: no macro name given in #define directive
:0:1: error: macro names must be identifiers
make: *** [build/bitcoin.o] Error 1


qmake-qt4/make
qmake-qt4 mentions:
Warning: unknown QT: widgetsProject MESSAGE: Warning: unknown QT: widgets
then make stops at:
In file included from src/qt/optionsdialog.cpp:2:0:
build/ui_optionsdialog.h:13:29: fatal error: QtWidgets/QAction: No such file or directory
 #include
                             ^
compilation terminated.
make: *** [build/optionsdialog.o] Error 1

I tried a couple of weak attempts to resolve that, but no luck...

I also tried compiling on an ubuntu 12.04 box, but no luck there either
And qt-creator, naturally, had the same compile failures..

I mentioned this on the IRC, and it didn't seem like there were many linux types that wanted a gui.
Maybe that's true here as well... but since the code is out there, it would probably be good if it compiled on common platforms...
Maybe a statically linked binary?

Anyway, I'm glad other issues seem to be all fixed up... I'm mining away, waiting for the 0.00000100's or better...
Thanks!



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Re: GlobalBoost® BST - A CryptoCurrency To Help Wounded Veterans
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free_istheway
on 16/06/2014, 18:11:02 UTC
Hi,
I just noticed a port conflict between the  globalboost rpcport (8223) and the default Armory (bitcoin wallet) inter-processes port.
When I started the linux globalboost-qt wallet, I got a Port already in use error for port 8223.

Armory is a fairly popular secure btc wallet, so I don't know if it would be worth considering whether BST might want to change the default rpcport..
But I'm just going to point it out.. Probably a good one for the troubleshooting FAQ...

I did a little searching, and found this:
https://bitcoinarmory.com/download/troubleshooting/
(at the end under command line options)
 --interport=NUMBER # Armory inter-process port (8223)

It seems pretty easy to change the port for Armory, at least for the tech-savvy...
I haven't tried it, I just shut my armory wallet down for the time being..

Cheers!
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Re: [New Wallets: Week of 6/1] Clean Water Coin | $2,000 Donated to Charity: Water
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free_istheway
on 04/06/2014, 19:56:25 UTC
WATER is disabled/inactive on Bittrex again...

Refresh amigo Smiley

Yep, it's back now
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Re: [New Wallets: Week of 6/1] Clean Water Coin | $2,000 Donated to Charity: Water
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free_istheway
on 04/06/2014, 19:50:07 UTC
WATER is disabled/inactive on Bittrex again...