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Un carwash, in stile breaking bad.....
Creare una società fittizia e fatturare clienti non esistenti per far entrare i BTC la vedo dispendiosa e complessa
Secondo me, per chi effettua mining, conviene aprire una start-up che effettua webservices, e dichiara come introiti il denaro che ti arriva dall exchange al c/c.
Oltre a questo non mi viene altro in mente per giustificare flussi di denaro da bitcoin
Oltre a questo non mi viene altro in mente per giustificare flussi di denaro da bitcoin
Un saluto a tutta la comunità di bitcointalk che non sa come e se dichiarare le proprie monete...
Vedo che ogni giorno questo club per gentiluomini si allarga di giorno in giorno ahah
Ho riletto molte pagine del thread ma non trovo risposte al mio quesito.
Se io sono un miner come mi devo comportare davanti al fisco italiano?
A differenza dei trader, i miner non svolgono attività finanziarie, non fanno compravendita di monete o speculano sul prezzo del btc perché non abbiamo acquistato btc dagli exchange ma ricevono btc dalle pool.
Cioè se io faccio 70k di bitcoin dal mining e mi gira il pirlo di prendermi un Cayenne cosa devo fare? Non vorrei che dopo AdE mi dica ma signor Gabriele, come ha fatto a comprarsi la porshe se da noi risulta che mangi alla mensa dei poveri . Io vorrei saper dirgli di più di mining farm con una poker face esagerata.
Grazie
Vedo che ogni giorno questo club per gentiluomini si allarga di giorno in giorno ahah
Ho riletto molte pagine del thread ma non trovo risposte al mio quesito.
Se io sono un miner come mi devo comportare davanti al fisco italiano?
A differenza dei trader, i miner non svolgono attività finanziarie, non fanno compravendita di monete o speculano sul prezzo del btc perché non abbiamo acquistato btc dagli exchange ma ricevono btc dalle pool.
Cioè se io faccio 70k di bitcoin dal mining e mi gira il pirlo di prendermi un Cayenne cosa devo fare? Non vorrei che dopo AdE mi dica ma signor Gabriele, come ha fatto a comprarsi la porshe se da noi risulta che mangi alla mensa dei poveri . Io vorrei saper dirgli di più di mining farm con una poker face esagerata.
Grazie
Salve a tutti, sono mi sono unito da poco alla comunità di bitcointalk ed ho un quesito importante da farvi.
Io ho intenzione di ordinare degli antminer s9 da Bitmain, ciò che mi frena dal farlo per il momento sono i possibili dazi doganali(estremi) da pagare all 'arrivo della merce in Italia.
Qualcuno che ha già ordinato miner mi sa dare qualche dritta su come e cosa dichiarare alla dogana? Vorrei evitare di pagare il 20% del prezzo pieno
Grazie
Io ho intenzione di ordinare degli antminer s9 da Bitmain, ciò che mi frena dal farlo per il momento sono i possibili dazi doganali(estremi) da pagare all 'arrivo della merce in Italia.
Qualcuno che ha già ordinato miner mi sa dare qualche dritta su come e cosa dichiarare alla dogana? Vorrei evitare di pagare il 20% del prezzo pieno
Grazie
Re: [ANN][ICO] «Envion» Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure
2) Will your published team members be working solely on this project full time, or will they work on other projects at the same time? Do they have ownership of or executive positions within companies that will be working with envion? Can you please tell me how much of the company is owned by the published team, and how many other people are involved and how much of the company they own? Are there other founders whose identities are not being published? If so, why is this?
I can't answer this.
The simple fact that the ownership of the company is concealed to the investors should be taken as example for the transparency that this project has with the community of bitcointalk.
We do not even know the location of their facility or where this mining container is operating either, nor pictures or videos where the team members get their hands dirty in their warehouse.
I was really interested in this thing since Sunday, when I saw an Envion ad on facebook, but for now there are way too many questions that have not been answered yet to bee sure investing.
Re: [ANN][ICO] «Envion» Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure
Honestly, I agree with Mark about the whole thing, there are way too many redflags and the smell of fraud is leaking everywhere.
First of all, for the sake of investors Envion should prove immediately that they are a real company. How to do that?
Give legal adress and especially whareouse adress so they can invite potential costumers to take a tour.
Make videos and photos of the team working, videos and photos of people actually working on the container not fake interviews of Matthias talking with a greenscreen depicting Fankfurt financial center.
Second: why the f**k a seroius company like Envion keeps the owners of the company in shadows? Do you know why Envion is giving up the names of the team members? Because they will have no penal responsability if everything goes wrong.
Third: if the so called CTO Matthias is half of what he claims to be ( investing 300ml in solar energy) why the hell should he need tiny random investors from bitcointalk. A man of his caliber, with a strong financial background has, for sure, ties with the german financial hub and does not need 1000 people investing 2-3k in his enterprise.
Envion wants to collect money from as many people as possible because people who invest 2-3k is not going to risk to hire a lawyer to get some saved money back.
Fourth: Where does the money go? From as far as I know it could go into a bank account called charity and end of story. Envion should give IBAN or bank wire account of the destination. Here we go with the fifth.
Fifth: Envion is a swiss startup operating in germany...why is that?
If everybody reads the whitepaper carefully it states that American citizens and green card holders cannot participate to ICO. The reason behind this is simple, swiss bank account holders have something called professional secrecy wich protects the account holder( ex. Banks do not have to give id of their costumers to law enforcement agencies)
The only way to bypass that is to commit an action that it is considered crime in both US and Swizerland and that the owner can be prosecuted in one of these countries. Hence, if he commits fraud to a US citizen and it is sued by him/her, its bananas in the dark hole for the account owner.
PEOPLE PLEASE RAISE YOUR AWARNESS, SAME GOES FOR THE MODERATORS
First of all, for the sake of investors Envion should prove immediately that they are a real company. How to do that?
Give legal adress and especially whareouse adress so they can invite potential costumers to take a tour.
Make videos and photos of the team working, videos and photos of people actually working on the container not fake interviews of Matthias talking with a greenscreen depicting Fankfurt financial center.
Second: why the f**k a seroius company like Envion keeps the owners of the company in shadows? Do you know why Envion is giving up the names of the team members? Because they will have no penal responsability if everything goes wrong.
Third: if the so called CTO Matthias is half of what he claims to be ( investing 300ml in solar energy) why the hell should he need tiny random investors from bitcointalk. A man of his caliber, with a strong financial background has, for sure, ties with the german financial hub and does not need 1000 people investing 2-3k in his enterprise.
Envion wants to collect money from as many people as possible because people who invest 2-3k is not going to risk to hire a lawyer to get some saved money back.
Fourth: Where does the money go? From as far as I know it could go into a bank account called charity and end of story. Envion should give IBAN or bank wire account of the destination. Here we go with the fifth.
Fifth: Envion is a swiss startup operating in germany...why is that?
If everybody reads the whitepaper carefully it states that American citizens and green card holders cannot participate to ICO. The reason behind this is simple, swiss bank account holders have something called professional secrecy wich protects the account holder( ex. Banks do not have to give id of their costumers to law enforcement agencies)
The only way to bypass that is to commit an action that it is considered crime in both US and Swizerland and that the owner can be prosecuted in one of these countries. Hence, if he commits fraud to a US citizen and it is sued by him/her, its bananas in the dark hole for the account owner.
PEOPLE PLEASE RAISE YOUR AWARNESS, SAME GOES FOR THE MODERATORS
Honestly, I agree with Mark about the whole thing, there are way too many redflags and the smell of fraud is leaking everywhere.
First of all, for the sake of investors Envion should prove immediately that they are a real company. How to do that?
Give legal adress and especially whareouse adress so they can invite potential costumers to take a tour.
Make videos and photos of the team working, videos and photos of people actually working on the container not fake interviews of Matthias talking with a greenscreen depicting Fankfurt financial center.
Second: why the f**k a seroius company like Envion keeps the owners of the company in shadows? Do you know why Envion is giving up the names of the team members? Because they will have no penal responsability if everything goes wrong.
Third: if the so called CTO Matthias is half of what he claims to be ( investing 300ml in solar energy) why the hell should he need tiny random investors from bitcointalk. A man of his caliber, with a strong financial background has, for sure, ties with the german financial hub and does not need 1000 people investing 2-3k in his enterprise.
Envion wants to collect money from as many people as possible because people who invest 2-3k is not going to risk to hire a lawyer to get some saved money back.
Fourth: Where does the money go? From as far as I know it could go into a bank account called charity and end of story. Envion should give IBAN or bank wire account of the destination. Here we go with the fifth.
Fifth: Envion is a swiss startup operating in germany...why is that?
If everybody reads the whitepaper carefully it states that American citizens and green card holders cannot participate to ICO. The reason behind this is simple, swiss bank account holders have something called professional secrecy wich protects the account holder( ex. Banks do not have to give id of their costumers to law enforcement agencies)
The only way to bypass that is to commit an action that it is considered crime in both US and Swizerland and that the owner can be prosecuted in one of these countries. Hence, if he commits fraud to a US citizen and it is sued by him/her, its bananas in the dark hole for the account owner.
PEOPLE PLEASE RAISE YOUR AWARNESS, SAME GOES FOR THE MODERATORS
First of all, for the sake of investors Envion should prove immediately that they are a real company. How to do that?
Give legal adress and especially whareouse adress so they can invite potential costumers to take a tour.
Make videos and photos of the team working, videos and photos of people actually working on the container not fake interviews of Matthias talking with a greenscreen depicting Fankfurt financial center.
Second: why the f**k a seroius company like Envion keeps the owners of the company in shadows? Do you know why Envion is giving up the names of the team members? Because they will have no penal responsability if everything goes wrong.
Third: if the so called CTO Matthias is half of what he claims to be ( investing 300ml in solar energy) why the hell should he need tiny random investors from bitcointalk. A man of his caliber, with a strong financial background has, for sure, ties with the german financial hub and does not need 1000 people investing 2-3k in his enterprise.
Envion wants to collect money from as many people as possible because people who invest 2-3k is not going to risk to hire a lawyer to get some saved money back.
Fourth: Where does the money go? From as far as I know it could go into a bank account called charity and end of story. Envion should give IBAN or bank wire account of the destination. Here we go with the fifth.
Fifth: Envion is a swiss startup operating in germany...why is that?
If everybody reads the whitepaper carefully it states that American citizens and green card holders cannot participate to ICO. The reason behind this is simple, swiss bank account holders have something called professional secrecy wich protects the account holder( ex. Banks do not have to give id of their costumers to law enforcement agencies)
The only way to bypass that is to commit an action that it is considered crime in both US and Swizerland and that the owner can be prosecuted in one of these countries. Hence, if he commits fraud to a US citizen and it is sued by him/her, its bananas in the dark hole for the account owner.
PEOPLE PLEASE RAISE YOUR AWARNESS, SAME GOES FOR THE MODERATORS