Awesome! Seems quite busy over there?
https://www.aex.com/page/trade.html/xcn_ausd

yes the number is correct. It's pulled straight out of the explorer.

You can see total supply and unmined coins etc here:
https://explorer.cryptonite.info/?page=stats

https://www.zg.top/exchange#symbol=106

that's the direct link to XCN

Everybody please start using the official explorer url.
The selektion21 one was just a temporary redirect to get things going at the beginning. I reactivated it for now but it is deprecated and will be shut down soon.

We are working on it, sorry for the inconvenience.

Background story:
The explorer parser has received an update but the increased workload caused my server provider to threaten to shut down my VPS. Therefore I've not taken the parser back online and am waiting for a software update within the parser code that allows updating the DB with reduced I/O workload.

Until then, I cannot really run it because I'd have to delete the complete DB and recreate it which might cause the provider to get angry with me again ...

well .. I'm going to bed in Auckland right now. So my vote should still count?
Might have to use my company email address maybe...

Nice! Just voted, hope it counts.

yay

Alternatively, I thought it might be possible to add an API call to list all block ids that contain transactions to/from a certain wallet address. Then a wallet could "ask around" for which blocks it should sync - might also be possible to have this as a feature for the block explorer. To reduce p2p traffic?!

Ah, so how does my wallet know about old transactions then without having the full blockchain?
I mean, somehow the wallet at least knows that there have been transactions to me in the past:
So can't we derive the block ids from that source to then download those blocks only?

I know that the proof-chain only contains the headers which consist of just the hashes of the previous block and the root of the account tree, isn't that so? So I wonder how does the wallet know about my old transactions without downloading the full chain? It doesn't know the contents but it seems to know when they were.

This is what I mean:

I've just re-started syncing from scratch and right after opening my wallet, it knew about all my past transactions. It must be possible to salvage the block ids from that?

The way it works at the moment is:
- a fresh wallet only downloads ~ the last week of blocks for the most relevant tx history
- if there already is a block in the local blockchain, the wallet continues syncing from that block onwards which can take some time depending on network availability of the block and the number of blocks required to catch up. So if you wanted to get a local copy of the full chain, you'd need the first block and the wallet would do a complete sync.

Both variations give you the same security and wallet balance though. That's the greatness about the mini-blockchain. You don't need to know all details about old transactions. It's enough to know they exist (as they're still referenced in the proof-chain header) and your current balance from the account tree which is interlinked with that proof chain. Although even the existence is not necessary to get your account balance and can be forgotten.


While writing this, it gave me an idea:
@pallas: do you think it'd be possible for a wallet to sync ONLY blocks that contain my own transactions? So I could get at least a complete tx history for my own wallet? I think that'd be a nice feature to have
I'm thinking about a switch in the wallet options to enable this.

Hmm, you can't have lost coins because the "hack" created new coins for the hacker. If you lost coins, that's a matter between you and the exchange and has nothing to do with the development.

Just to show that bisq indeed supports any base currency <-> XCN trading pair (e.g. BTC), please see this screenshot I just made.

XCN is fully supported by bisq!

You just need to start the app and have a look yourself. The http://markets.bisq.network/ site just shows pairs with recent activity. Volume on bisq is still nearly 0, because everybody seems to think that XCN is not supported by bisq.

I can guarantee you, it is. I've added it to their code base myself

anyone know how to inform coinmarketcap that XCN can also be traded on bisq?

100% agree. After all, a successfull currency should always be fungible (if I remember the word correctly), i.e. a stolen coin shall be absolutely identical in value and usage to a non-stolen one. It would do much more damage to instill doubt about the value of any of the currently circulating coins!

One could argue that these coins were forged but there's no way to tell them apart, ergo they're all 100% legit. And by blacklisting the bad coins, we wouldn't revert any of the hacker's illegal gains or our distributed losses.
So right now, we simply have a case of temporary rapid inflation which has been fixed long ago. Let's move on!


* https://dickolsson.com/what-is-fungible-currency/

Personally, I'm in 2 minds about POS vs POW.
I love the idea of getting rid of "wasting energy".
On the other hand, it's that "wasted" energy that gives the token additional undisputable value and is therefore a great layer of trust, next to the current trade prices on the exchanges.
Same effect as with gold. It's expensive to mine, hence it's rare, hence it's valuable. In theory, there should be some market-driven self adjustment happening to how much energy a coin consumes and I think that's what's happening. So POW isn't necessarily bad. Also, there are many voices warning against pure POS as there seem to be some issues with that, too.

I've thought about that topic a while ago, too and my feeling is that a new POW/hybrid POW/POS approach that somehow incentivizes contribution to coin network health might be a good approach. E.g. instead of just having the tokens "at stake", the POW part could be about providing network bandwidth (e.g. forwarding new transactions) or transaction history lookups. I'm not sure yet how to encapsulate these tasks in a way so that it can be verified independently that a node has done it. But it must be possible, SETI@home is somehow verifying processed packages as well.
The POS part could stay more or less the same as having tokens at stake I guess.

Ah yes, Mr 10 GH could've been the culprit there ...
Nevertheless, the tx should appear as unconfirmed pretty much right away.

well, just using the live net would be doable, too. TX fees are literally nothing, so would be interesting to compare testnet vs live.
I'm surprised about the initial report of having 8-10 min confirmation time. Whenever I did a transfer, it was visible the same instant (sent around the world, NZ -> Germany while talking on phone) and confirmed within the next block.
Keep in mind that with withdrawal limits in place, technically, no confirmation is required and instant tx is possible. This feature needs more support in the wallet to be actually usable but the foundation is there!

About exchanges:
Just putting it out there that bisq supports XCN trading, too.
So technically, it IS possible for everyone to trade as of now.

Same here! Proof is in the explorer


Wow, great logo artwork! We should use it officially together with a new homepage!

No one has ever tested the network to see how much it can handle. With theoretically unlimited block size quite a bit should be possible. I think the bottleneck will be either in bandwidth or cpu time somewhere.
How big is one tx in xcn?
Testing the limit shouldn't be that hard, actually. "Just" set up two computers and run a bash script to operate the wallet per RPC calls to do 1000/2000/... transactions per second to the other PC.
I've always wanted to do it but simply don't have the time unfortunately ...

And with regards to exchanges: XCN can still be traded on bisq... I just wouldn't trade it against BTC because of BTC tx fees. But LTC or I think doge is available, too.