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Re: Mengubah Paradigma Bitcoin: Uang atau Aset Investasi?
Mendengar kata Bitcoin orang akan mengatakan Bitcoin adalah mata uang digital yang bisa digunakan untuk bertransaksi - untuk belanja atau bayar ini itu. Dulu, Bitcoin memang digagas sebagai mata uang alternatif yang bisa digunakan sebagai alat tukar untuk mendapatkan barang atau jasa. Sebagian besar orang, sampai sekarang pun masih menganggap Bitcoin sebagai uang, - mungkin karena akhiran katanya COIN - maka kemudian mereka menganggap Bitcoin sebagai uang. Well, masih relevankah Bitcoin untuk dianggap sebagai uang?
Pertumbuhan nilai Bitcoin terhadap mata uang fiat atau mata uang resmi yang dikeluarkan suatu negara bisa dikatakan sangat fantastis, bahkan nilai Bitcoin saat posting ini dipublikasikan adalah senilai USD 1980 mengalahkan harga Gold per ounce yang dibandrol seharga USD 1255.
Bitcoin sudah sangat tidak cocok untuk digunakan sebagai alat tukar pembayaran atau uang, dikarenakan perubahan nilai pada saat naik dan turun memiliki selisih yang sangat besar. Stability of Value - salah satu syarat mutlak yang harus dimiliki oleh uang sebagai alat tukar tidak dimiliki oleh Bitcoin. Selain itu, meningkatnya ukuran file transaksi dan juga meningkatnya nilai Bitcoin adalah sama dengan meningkat atau naiknya biaya untuk melakukan transfer. Kita tidak bisa lagi mengharapkan biaya transfer yang murah dan cepat, karena dengan meningkatnya harga Bitcoin sama dengan meningkat pula fee untuk konfirmasi.
Sebagai contoh, Saya membeli sebuah produk seharga USD 2 dollar, saat ini sudah sangat tidak mungkin bagi saya untuk membayar fee konfirmasi lebih kecil dari nilai yang saya keluarkan untuk mendapatkan produk tersebut. Berikut adalah bukti ketika saya melakukan transfer Bitcoin senilai USD 2, di mana fee paling murah yang direkomendasikan adalah Bitcoin senilai USD 5 lebih (fee paling murah sama dengan proses transfer akan membutuhkan waktu lebih lama). Gambar
Jika anda lihat pada bukti transaksi ini. waktu yang dibutuhkan agar Bitcoin yang saya bayarkan sampai kepada penerima adalah sekitar 2000 menit, jika saya membayar fee lebih kecil dari yang direkomendasikan maka kemungkinan besar transfer Bitcoin saya akan memakan waktu lebih lama dari 2000 menit atau bahkan tidak akan diproses sama sekali.
Sama seperti dengan GOLD. Sebagai aset investasi, anda tidak mungkin datang ke sebuah toko dengan membawa emas batangan milik anda, akan ada proses ini itu dengan biaya yang cukup besar jika anda ingin membayar sebuah produk atau jasa dengan menggunakan emas batangan .. hal ini sepertinya sudah berlaku untuk Bitcoin.
Salah satu kisah fenomenal yang membuktikan bahwa Bitcoin TIDAK BISA atau tidak cocok digunakan sebagai mata uang untuk alat tukar atau pembayaran adalah kisah seseorang yang dulu membeli satu loyang/box Pizza dengan Bitcoin sejumlah 10000 BTC. Seandainya orang itu, menggunakan 10000 BTC nya saat ini, bukan hanya Pizza yang akan dia dapatkan, perusahaan Pizza-nya sekalian yang bisa dia beli.
So? Masih ngeyel menganggap Bitcoin sebagai uang? Masih suka promosi Bitcoin sebagai mata uang alternatif dan ngompori orang lain untuk beli ini itu dengan menggunakan Bitcoin?
sumber: Blog Bitcoin Indonesia
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Coinbase CEO: Digital Currencies Like Bitcoin Will Become Reserve Currencies
Billionaire Investor Has 10% of His Money in Bitcoin & Ether
Pertumbuhan nilai Bitcoin terhadap mata uang fiat atau mata uang resmi yang dikeluarkan suatu negara bisa dikatakan sangat fantastis, bahkan nilai Bitcoin saat posting ini dipublikasikan adalah senilai USD 1980 mengalahkan harga Gold per ounce yang dibandrol seharga USD 1255.
Bitcoin sudah sangat tidak cocok untuk digunakan sebagai alat tukar pembayaran atau uang, dikarenakan perubahan nilai pada saat naik dan turun memiliki selisih yang sangat besar. Stability of Value - salah satu syarat mutlak yang harus dimiliki oleh uang sebagai alat tukar tidak dimiliki oleh Bitcoin. Selain itu, meningkatnya ukuran file transaksi dan juga meningkatnya nilai Bitcoin adalah sama dengan meningkat atau naiknya biaya untuk melakukan transfer. Kita tidak bisa lagi mengharapkan biaya transfer yang murah dan cepat, karena dengan meningkatnya harga Bitcoin sama dengan meningkat pula fee untuk konfirmasi.
Sebagai contoh, Saya membeli sebuah produk seharga USD 2 dollar, saat ini sudah sangat tidak mungkin bagi saya untuk membayar fee konfirmasi lebih kecil dari nilai yang saya keluarkan untuk mendapatkan produk tersebut. Berikut adalah bukti ketika saya melakukan transfer Bitcoin senilai USD 2, di mana fee paling murah yang direkomendasikan adalah Bitcoin senilai USD 5 lebih (fee paling murah sama dengan proses transfer akan membutuhkan waktu lebih lama). Gambar
Jika anda lihat pada bukti transaksi ini. waktu yang dibutuhkan agar Bitcoin yang saya bayarkan sampai kepada penerima adalah sekitar 2000 menit, jika saya membayar fee lebih kecil dari yang direkomendasikan maka kemungkinan besar transfer Bitcoin saya akan memakan waktu lebih lama dari 2000 menit atau bahkan tidak akan diproses sama sekali.
Sama seperti dengan GOLD. Sebagai aset investasi, anda tidak mungkin datang ke sebuah toko dengan membawa emas batangan milik anda, akan ada proses ini itu dengan biaya yang cukup besar jika anda ingin membayar sebuah produk atau jasa dengan menggunakan emas batangan .. hal ini sepertinya sudah berlaku untuk Bitcoin.
Salah satu kisah fenomenal yang membuktikan bahwa Bitcoin TIDAK BISA atau tidak cocok digunakan sebagai mata uang untuk alat tukar atau pembayaran adalah kisah seseorang yang dulu membeli satu loyang/box Pizza dengan Bitcoin sejumlah 10000 BTC. Seandainya orang itu, menggunakan 10000 BTC nya saat ini, bukan hanya Pizza yang akan dia dapatkan, perusahaan Pizza-nya sekalian yang bisa dia beli.
So? Masih ngeyel menganggap Bitcoin sebagai uang? Masih suka promosi Bitcoin sebagai mata uang alternatif dan ngompori orang lain untuk beli ini itu dengan menggunakan Bitcoin?
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Note: posting ini bukan saran untuk melakukan investasi dalam bentuk Bitcoin. anda harus melalukan proses pembelajaran terhadap diri sendiri dan juga investigasi lengkap dan juga bertanya kepada para konsultan investasi yang memiliki ijin dan legailitas hukum sebelum memutuskan untuk melakukan investasi - apapun jenis investasi itu.
sumber: Blog Bitcoin Indonesia
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Coinbase CEO: Digital Currencies Like Bitcoin Will Become Reserve Currencies
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At the Token Summit held on May 25, 2017, at the NYU Stern School of Business in New York City, Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong noted the possibility of digital currencies and cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin replacing reserve currencies such as the US dollar.
Over the past year, Bitcoin has shown a meteoric rise in value. Year-to-date, Bitcoin has already recorded a 375 percent increase in price, surging from the $900 region to $2,400. Analysts have attributed this recent surge in the price of Bitcoin to the growing global awareness toward Bitcoin as a safe haven asset and digital gold.
Over the past year, Bitcoin has shown a meteoric rise in value. Year-to-date, Bitcoin has already recorded a 375 percent increase in price, surging from the $900 region to $2,400. Analysts have attributed this recent surge in the price of Bitcoin to the growing global awareness toward Bitcoin as a safe haven asset and digital gold.
Billionaire Investor Has 10% of His Money in Bitcoin & Ether
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Billionaire investor Mike Novogratz has said that he is holding ten percent of his net worth in digital currencies such as Bitcoin and Ether. "The best investment of my life" he said
Uang dan investasi gan. kita investasi d bitcoin jg krn ingin mendapatkan uang lebih.
Assalamualaikum wr wb para member bitcoin, saya baru 2 hari main bitcoin, bahkan ikut forum ini saja masih 2 hari juga, kata temen ane bitcoin bisa menghasilkan banyak uang, bahkan gaji melebihi TNI, apa betul itu ?
Karena saya juga masih pengangguran, cari kerja engga dapet dapet, daftar TNI ga lolos sampai umur habis, sedikit depresi , tp masih mau bangkit, betul gak sih yg di bilang temen ane ?
Terimakasih
semua tergantung kegigihan aganKarena saya juga masih pengangguran, cari kerja engga dapet dapet, daftar TNI ga lolos sampai umur habis, sedikit depresi , tp masih mau bangkit, betul gak sih yg di bilang temen ane ?
Terimakasih
kl agan gigih belajar, inshaallah bisa
Re: bagaimana cara membangun akun bitcointalk bisa menghasilkan kecil sekalipun.
ya tentunya harus sering2 posting biar dapet activty gan
tapi posting juga gboleh asal , harus bisa bikin kualitas akun agan juga jadi bagus.
kalo akun udah bagus baru deh enak bisaa ikutan signature2 yg bisa dapetin gajih gan
harus banyak activity gantapi posting juga gboleh asal , harus bisa bikin kualitas akun agan juga jadi bagus.
kalo akun udah bagus baru deh enak bisaa ikutan signature2 yg bisa dapetin gajih gan
Re: Apakah di era akan datang bitcoin akan tetap popular atau malah tinggal sejarah?
Zaman pasti berubah,,
Menurut agan. Bqgaimana??
Menurut agan. Bqgaimana??
Kalo menurut ane, bitcoin pasti akan berjaya
karena coin yg lain jg masih bergantung bitcoin
Re: Apa Yang Kalian Lakukan Untuk Mengantisipasi Harga Bitcoin Yang Terus Turun?
Sekarang bitcoin jatuh terus dikarenakan pada awalnya berita mengenai China ban ICOs,kemudian setelah itu pada tanggal 30 september china akan ban semua exchanger cryptocurrenccies,dan juga ditambah CEO JP morgan Jamie dimon yang mengapikan apikan dengan mengatakan bitcoin adalah Fraud.sehingga kebanyakan orang menjual bitcoin dan menyebabkan harga turun,bahkan tadi harga sampai turun ke lebih kurang $3400.
saya rasa harga bitcoin masih akan terus turun cuma tidak tau sampai berapa turunnya.
saya sendiri masih menyimpan bitcoin di exchanger dan tidak ada rencana menjual bitcoin.menurut saya cara ini lebih selamat,sebenarnya kalo saya tradingkan bitcoin saya sebenarnya bisa lebih menguntungkan.
jadi apa yang kalian lakukan?membeli bitcoin sementara masih murah/menjual bitcoin yang kalian miliki?
Apa Yang Kalian Lakukan Untuk Mengantisipasi Harga Bitcoin Yang Terus Turun?
saya hold dulu, yakin aja harga bitcoin bakal meroket lagisaya rasa harga bitcoin masih akan terus turun cuma tidak tau sampai berapa turunnya.
saya sendiri masih menyimpan bitcoin di exchanger dan tidak ada rencana menjual bitcoin.menurut saya cara ini lebih selamat,sebenarnya kalo saya tradingkan bitcoin saya sebenarnya bisa lebih menguntungkan.
jadi apa yang kalian lakukan?membeli bitcoin sementara masih murah/menjual bitcoin yang kalian miliki?
Apa Yang Kalian Lakukan Untuk Mengantisipasi Harga Bitcoin Yang Terus Turun?
Bagaimana tangapan agan agan. semalam kan harga bitcoin sempat turun. apakah yang di pikirkan negara sebesar china sampai melarang ico dan akan menutup bursa bitcoin
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Harga bitcoin gk tergantung china
ane yakin pemain bitcoin diluar china jg sangat banyak
jd menurut ane ya gk akan terlalu berarti kl china menutup bursa btc
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Re: [ANN][ICO] ZILLA - Amazon for ICOs- All in one click!
ZILLA
Watch our working app demo on Youtube
The bounty is live!
UPDATE 03/09/2017
We are revising the amount to be distributed at the crowdsale. This post has also been edited to reflect the changes. Among others, there is now a hard cap of 211,000 ETH worth of tokens. The distribution amounts have been changed accordingly.
150,000,000 total ZLA
112,500,000 to the public
30,000,000 to the team
7,500,000 angel investors
Our white paper has also been updated to reflect the new numbers.
The short primer
The long description
The ZILLA founders share the common vision to create an ICO purchasing platform. ZILLA will act as a gateway to onboard new Crypto enthusiasts to easily and safely participate in various crowd-vetted ICOs, while also allowing companies to do an ICO more effectively.
ICO crowdsales are becoming more commonplace.With more than 1500 ongoing ICOs and counting, it is becoming overwhelming for buyers to keep track, compare and verify between various ICOs. Moreover, the ever growing complexity of the ICO environment for new-would-be crypto enthusiasts is both astounding and paralyzing. No simple consumer-friendly and intuitive platform exists that enables participants to conveniently grasps and compare competing ICOs.
In addition, there is no central authority or institution (by design) that is a reference point for new crypto enthusiasts. The discovery of new ICOs remains a challenge. Before the decision is made to participate in an ICO, potential participants must painstakingly learn about how proposed projects will work, investigate the backgrounds and qualifications of the team behind the projects, and understand exactly what they are purchasing. The risk of scams and fake crowdsales undermine the credibility of the sector. The process of completing KYC requirements for multiple projects is time-consuming.
These issues reduce the amount of attention each ICO gets, and as the number of ICOs increases, maximizing exposure for quality ICOs becomes more important.
http://i.imgur.com/13AvAQl.png
ZILLA aims to provide a unified marketplace for curated ICO crowd sales in one app - presenting it akin to Amazon and its products or Etrade and the Stock Market.
Each listing will have all the information participants will need to make an informed decision, and be able to commit with a couple of clicks.
We aim to target the app at hotbeds of ICO trade we've identified: not just the western markets (in English) but China, Japan and Korea as well.
http://i.imgur.com/LpJFWy9.png
The product
ZILLA has already been prototyped; the marketplace app is currently in production, and were targeting a December 2017 release. The ZLA merchant API, which will allow merchants worldwide to accept any token for payment, is on track for Q4 2018.
https://i.imgur.com/ZqYhZvR.png
Our upcoming token crowdsale
To fund its further development and future expansion of our team, to understand the experiences of a token issuer, as well as gather a community around our platform, we'll be conducting a token crowdsale.
The crowdsale is projected to begin on the 19th of September 2017, at 10pm Tokyo Time, and it is projected to end at 26th of September 2017, at 10pm Tokyo Time.
If any ZLA token remains unsold at its conclusion, ZILLA will sell the remaining tokens on the app for 10 USD each (price subject to company discretion).
ZLA tokens can be sold on exchanges for any price (subject to market rates), or used on our platform to save on other token sale fees.
Companies, funds, and individuals alike are all invited to participate in the ZILLA Token Crowdsale, with the following exceptions due to legalities:
Citizens of the United States are not allowed to participate.
Citizens of Singapore are not allowed to participate.
Allocation And Price
http://i.imgur.com/9A2m8He.png
There will be a hard cap of 211,000 ETH worth of ZLA tokens to be distributed.
Zilla will issue 150,000,000 ZLA tokens total, of which:
75% of that amount (112,500,000 ZLA) will be traded to public contributors.
Half of this 112,500,000 ZLA will be offered in a presale event.
20% (30,000,000 ZLA) will go to the founding team.
5% (7,500,000 ZLA) will go to Investors.
Proceeds from the token crowdsale will go towards further development of the ZILLA platform and ongoing operational costs, as follows:
http://i.imgur.com/9A2m8He.png
How We Compare
http://i.imgur.com/T5NNPai.png
Disclaimer: We do not regard Lykke, Starbase, BitcoinSuisse and ICOAGE to be competitors; rather, we feel that our app is complementary to their services. We focus on a consumer-friendly ICO discovery and shopping app, simplified for the end user, in multiple languages.
http://i.imgur.com/s56R0ej.png
If you have any questions about our platform and the upcoming crowdsale, do reply here, and well answer them as best as we can.
Looking forward to your support!
Watch our working app demo on Youtube
Watch our working app demo on Youtube
The bounty is live!
UPDATE 03/09/2017
We are revising the amount to be distributed at the crowdsale. This post has also been edited to reflect the changes. Among others, there is now a hard cap of 211,000 ETH worth of tokens. The distribution amounts have been changed accordingly.
150,000,000 total ZLA
112,500,000 to the public
30,000,000 to the team
7,500,000 angel investors
Our white paper has also been updated to reflect the new numbers.
The short primer
| In General | ZILLA aims to provide a safe, crowd-vetted and easy-to-use ICO platform for both token issuers and ICO participants |
| Target Platforms | Android, IOS |
| Target Languages | English, Chinese, Japanese, Korean |
| Ticker Symbol | ZLA |
| Token Background | ZLA is an ERC20 token on the Ethereum blockchain |
| Company Structure | For-Profit |
| Country of Origin | Singapore |
| ICO price | 400 ZLA Tokens / 1 ETH (Or BTC equivalent) (50% early contributor bonus) |
| Token Supply | Total 150,000,000 ZLA: 112,500,000 (75%) to Public 30,000,000 (20%) to ZILLA team 7,500,000 ZLA (5%) to Angel lnvestors. |
| Escrow | Funds secured in multi-signature escrow account |
| Projected start | 10pm Tokyo time (UTC+9) on 19/09/2017 |
| Projected end | 10pm Tokyo time on 26/09/2017 |
| Advisors | James MacWhite Blockchain Developer (Breadwallet / Kraken / Coinbase) Tomomi Yamashita: Compliance (Merrill Lynch / Citigroup) Christopher Bridges: Legal / Compliance (CB Law Corporation) |
| Team Members | Abasa Phillips: Founder Twitter (PRIMO CEO, Pegapay CEO, Paysafe Country Manager) Chris Miess: ICO Coordinator (TenX Financial Advisor) Tanvir Shahid: Blockchain Developer Github (PRIMO CTO) Michael Montague: Blockchain Developer (Pegapay CTO) Hendar Rismanto: Back End Developer (PRIMO Senior Developer) Richard Lamar II: Front End Developer (PRIMO iOS Developer |
| Whitepaper (Product Developer) | English |
| Token Sale Overview | zla.io |
| Slack | zillatoken.slack.com |
| ZILLAtoken | |
| zillatoken | |
| ZILLAtoken | |
| Telegram | ZILLA |
| Corporate Linkedin | ZILLAtoken |
| Qr Code Image: http://i.imgur.com/kYnj0Ez.png |
The long description
The ZILLA founders share the common vision to create an ICO purchasing platform. ZILLA will act as a gateway to onboard new Crypto enthusiasts to easily and safely participate in various crowd-vetted ICOs, while also allowing companies to do an ICO more effectively.
ICO crowdsales are becoming more commonplace.With more than 1500 ongoing ICOs and counting, it is becoming overwhelming for buyers to keep track, compare and verify between various ICOs. Moreover, the ever growing complexity of the ICO environment for new-would-be crypto enthusiasts is both astounding and paralyzing. No simple consumer-friendly and intuitive platform exists that enables participants to conveniently grasps and compare competing ICOs.
In addition, there is no central authority or institution (by design) that is a reference point for new crypto enthusiasts. The discovery of new ICOs remains a challenge. Before the decision is made to participate in an ICO, potential participants must painstakingly learn about how proposed projects will work, investigate the backgrounds and qualifications of the team behind the projects, and understand exactly what they are purchasing. The risk of scams and fake crowdsales undermine the credibility of the sector. The process of completing KYC requirements for multiple projects is time-consuming.
These issues reduce the amount of attention each ICO gets, and as the number of ICOs increases, maximizing exposure for quality ICOs becomes more important.
http://i.imgur.com/13AvAQl.png
ZILLA aims to provide a unified marketplace for curated ICO crowd sales in one app - presenting it akin to Amazon and its products or Etrade and the Stock Market.
Each listing will have all the information participants will need to make an informed decision, and be able to commit with a couple of clicks.
We aim to target the app at hotbeds of ICO trade we've identified: not just the western markets (in English) but China, Japan and Korea as well.
http://i.imgur.com/LpJFWy9.png
The product
ZILLA has already been prototyped; the marketplace app is currently in production, and were targeting a December 2017 release. The ZLA merchant API, which will allow merchants worldwide to accept any token for payment, is on track for Q4 2018.
https://i.imgur.com/ZqYhZvR.png
| May 2017 | Conception of Idea / begin development of ZILLA (COMPLETE) |
| July 2017 | Team Formation (COMPLETE) |
| August 2017 | App prototype (COMPLETE) Incorporation of ZLA PTE LTD in Singapore (COMPLETE) |
| September 2017 | Token Crowdsale |
| October 2017 | Cryptocurrency Exchange Listings |
| December 2017 | ZILLA App first release ZLA Payment Gateway continued development |
| February 2018 | Payment Gateway partnership development |
| March 2018 | Cryptocurrency Exchange partnership development |
| May 2018 | ZLA Payment Gateway API testing |
| July/August 2018 | ZLA Payment Gateway API beta release |
Our upcoming token crowdsale
To fund its further development and future expansion of our team, to understand the experiences of a token issuer, as well as gather a community around our platform, we'll be conducting a token crowdsale.
The crowdsale is projected to begin on the 19th of September 2017, at 10pm Tokyo Time, and it is projected to end at 26th of September 2017, at 10pm Tokyo Time.
If any ZLA token remains unsold at its conclusion, ZILLA will sell the remaining tokens on the app for 10 USD each (price subject to company discretion).
ZLA tokens can be sold on exchanges for any price (subject to market rates), or used on our platform to save on other token sale fees.
Companies, funds, and individuals alike are all invited to participate in the ZILLA Token Crowdsale, with the following exceptions due to legalities:
Citizens of the United States are not allowed to participate.
Citizens of Singapore are not allowed to participate.
Allocation And Price
http://i.imgur.com/9A2m8He.png
There will be a hard cap of 211,000 ETH worth of ZLA tokens to be distributed.
Zilla will issue 150,000,000 ZLA tokens total, of which:
75% of that amount (112,500,000 ZLA) will be traded to public contributors.
Half of this 112,500,000 ZLA will be offered in a presale event.
20% (30,000,000 ZLA) will go to the founding team.
5% (7,500,000 ZLA) will go to Investors.
Proceeds from the token crowdsale will go towards further development of the ZILLA platform and ongoing operational costs, as follows:
http://i.imgur.com/9A2m8He.png
How We Compare
http://i.imgur.com/T5NNPai.png
Disclaimer: We do not regard Lykke, Starbase, BitcoinSuisse and ICOAGE to be competitors; rather, we feel that our app is complementary to their services. We focus on a consumer-friendly ICO discovery and shopping app, simplified for the end user, in multiple languages.
http://i.imgur.com/s56R0ej.png
If you have any questions about our platform and the upcoming crowdsale, do reply here, and well answer them as best as we can.
Looking forward to your support!
Watch our working app demo on Youtube
I will monitor first. if it is good, I will invest. Good luck
Saya pengin tanya gan, berapa si project campaign yang sedang agan ikuti? TTipe Bounty apa saja yang sedang di ikuti?
Ada banyak banget bounty campaign, pas daftar si asik - asik aja daftar banyak, tapi lama - lama kok capek juga ya? agan gimana nih...
Trims
saya masih newbie, jd blm bs ikut projectAda banyak banget bounty campaign, pas daftar si asik - asik aja daftar banyak, tapi lama - lama kok capek juga ya? agan gimana nih...
Trims
Dear agan agan.
Apakah ada kata terlambat untuk mengejar ketinggalan tentang mengambil keuntungan di dunia cryptocurrency terutama bitcoin. Saya dulu pernah mendengar tentang uang digital selain Paypal yaitu bitcoin di masa itu. Tapi saya acuh kan karena dulu tidak begitu paham dan belum pernah banyak orang share tentang white paper nya. Saya lebih menyukai Paypal sebagai alat pembayaran elektronik walau di bank di Indonesia belum diakui.
Saat saya mengenal bicoin pada masa lalu, saya juga pernah m ndengar doge, dan ltc saat itu. Karena banyak koin yang bermunculan dan tidak ada kejelasan hukum jadi saya acuhkan semua. Dan saat ini saya menyesal, ternyata bitcoin justru banyak diminati oleh seluruh dunia sehingga harga nya melambung.
Apakah saya terlambat dengan harga setinggi itu? Bagaimana kita bisa mencari profit yang banyak agar memiliki bitcoin.?
Apakah ada kata terlambat untuk mengejar ketinggalan tentang mengambil keuntungan di dunia cryptocurrency terutama bitcoin. Saya dulu pernah mendengar tentang uang digital selain Paypal yaitu bitcoin di masa itu. Tapi saya acuh kan karena dulu tidak begitu paham dan belum pernah banyak orang share tentang white paper nya. Saya lebih menyukai Paypal sebagai alat pembayaran elektronik walau di bank di Indonesia belum diakui.
Saat saya mengenal bicoin pada masa lalu, saya juga pernah m ndengar doge, dan ltc saat itu. Karena banyak koin yang bermunculan dan tidak ada kejelasan hukum jadi saya acuhkan semua. Dan saat ini saya menyesal, ternyata bitcoin justru banyak diminati oleh seluruh dunia sehingga harga nya melambung.
Apakah saya terlambat dengan harga setinggi itu? Bagaimana kita bisa mencari profit yang banyak agar memiliki bitcoin.?
Ikut nyimak ya gan.......
Re: [ANN][ICO] Billionaire Token - Are you burning to play?🔥 50-65% BONUS TODAY!
Billionaire Token - The world's first low supply, super-deflationary, gambling-oriented Ethereum ERC-20 Token
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Whitepaper:
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Github:
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Twitter:
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Explorer:
https://etherscan.io/token/0x49aec0752e68d0282db544c677f6ba407ba17ed7
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MyEtherWallet burning guide:
https://BillionaireToken.com/MyEtherWalletBurn.pdf
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MyEtherWallet creation guide:
https://billionairetoken.com/MyEtherWalletCreation.pdf
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Slack:
https://billionairetoken.herokuapp.com/
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ICO Status: Online:
Today's base bonus: 50-65%.
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Daily special bonus: 70% extra to the first contributor of more than 5 ETH / 0.4 BTC / 30 LTC.
The first transaction after 7:30 PM GMT on the blockchain that respects these limits, receives each day an extra of 70% XBL tokens
Claimed by eggsandspamm.
Today's very special bonus: 65% extra to the first ten contributors of more than 3 ETH / 0.25 BTC / 20 LTC.
The first ten users that contribute today and respects these limits, receive an extra of 65% XBL tokens
Claimed 1/10 times
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https://BillionaireToken.com
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Whitepaper:
https://BillionaireToken.com/WhitePaper.pdf
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Github:
https://github.com/billionairetoken/TokenCore
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Twitter:
https://twitter.com/BillionaireTkn
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Explorer:
https://etherscan.io/token/0x49aec0752e68d0282db544c677f6ba407ba17ed7
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MyEtherWallet burning guide:
https://BillionaireToken.com/MyEtherWalletBurn.pdf
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MyEtherWallet creation guide:
https://billionairetoken.com/MyEtherWalletCreation.pdf
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Slack:
https://billionairetoken.herokuapp.com/
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ICO Status: Online:
Today's base bonus: 50-65%.
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Daily special bonus: 70% extra to the first contributor of more than 5 ETH / 0.4 BTC / 30 LTC.
The first transaction after 7:30 PM GMT on the blockchain that respects these limits, receives each day an extra of 70% XBL tokens
Claimed by eggsandspamm.
Today's very special bonus: 65% extra to the first ten contributors of more than 3 ETH / 0.25 BTC / 20 LTC.
The first ten users that contribute today and respects these limits, receive an extra of 65% XBL tokens
Claimed 1/10 times
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The Billionaire Token project
Dear cryptoheads, we have a big announcement to make: starting this August, each one of you will have the chance to become a Billionaire, and it really doesn't matter wether you are a swift hand crypto gambler or a patient long term investor. This may sound like one of those annoying pop-ups you were furiously closing back in the day, but we're now in 2017, and even though there are still no flying cars around, Blockchain Technology has radically changed the way we think about money, "internet money" to be more precise.
We're talking about Billionaire Token (XBL), an ETHEREUM ERC-20 token, designed and tailored specifically for the gamblers and the smart investors of this crazy crypto world. Most other coins or tokens have some sort of mining system, but Billionaire Token has the exact opposite: It features a deflationary mechanism that destroys some XBL tokens each week via a decentralized raffle. In addition to this, another Smart Contract - the Burner - that works kind of like a twisted Faucet, rewarding people for burning their own coins, will further increase the deflation. This is what will initially provide intrinsic value to the token and differentiate it from the competition.
Even if you're not the gambling type, we think that long-term investors will see the value of Billionaire Token. The gambling industry is one of the most profitable environments for a business nowadays.
But you can't make it in the gambling industry without having a top-notch product.
So what exactly does Billionaire Token offer that is new and exciting?
Dear cryptoheads, we have a big announcement to make: starting this August, each one of you will have the chance to become a Billionaire, and it really doesn't matter wether you are a swift hand crypto gambler or a patient long term investor. This may sound like one of those annoying pop-ups you were furiously closing back in the day, but we're now in 2017, and even though there are still no flying cars around, Blockchain Technology has radically changed the way we think about money, "internet money" to be more precise.
We're talking about Billionaire Token (XBL), an ETHEREUM ERC-20 token, designed and tailored specifically for the gamblers and the smart investors of this crazy crypto world. Most other coins or tokens have some sort of mining system, but Billionaire Token has the exact opposite: It features a deflationary mechanism that destroys some XBL tokens each week via a decentralized raffle. In addition to this, another Smart Contract - the Burner - that works kind of like a twisted Faucet, rewarding people for burning their own coins, will further increase the deflation. This is what will initially provide intrinsic value to the token and differentiate it from the competition.
Even if you're not the gambling type, we think that long-term investors will see the value of Billionaire Token. The gambling industry is one of the most profitable environments for a business nowadays.
But you can't make it in the gambling industry without having a top-notch product.
So what exactly does Billionaire Token offer that is new and exciting?
Q: How is the "Billionaire Hold'em" poker game going to work?
A: "Billionaire Hold'em" will be a piece of open-source software (a game) running on the Billionaire Token network. A classic Texas Hold'em Poker game with a twist - users will be using XBL tokens as the in-game currency. We will be seeding our random number generator via an Ethereum Smart Contract - The seed will become public knowledge once the game is over. Since this seed can be sniffed over the network via a man in the middle attack (and thus people will be able to cheat at the poker game) we will combine this with an internally-generated number, one that will also be made public once the game is over. This will make Billionaire Hold'em 100% fair and auditable.
Q: What are the coin specifications?
A:
Q: What about the premine ? How will you prove that half will be used for bounties and advertising campaigns?
A: Half of the 8.5% XBL tokens, the bounty funds, will be found at ethereum address 0x23EA016b4EBA78dFC374E99b2F6793f8d2dB3ff1, no funds will leave here without justification. The whole process will be made as transparent and fair as possible. The bounty campaign has closed as it has reached its lower limit - the 50,000 tokens reserved and locked for the lambo bounty. More information on the Bounty Campaign can be found below.
The rest of the premine (4.25%) is property of Billionaire Token team - we believe that having a stake in the project will align our interests with those of the other token holders and will increase the projects' chances of success.
Q: Ok this looks great, but why choose an ethereum token? Why not a "regular" coin with its own blockchain?
A: Running the Billionaire Token on the Ethereum network instead of having our own blockchain is better suited for our goals (deploying and running the decentralized raffle is much simpler on a smart contract platform). Also it makes the whole experience a lot more user friendly. Instead of having to download a whole new wallet and the subsequent blockchain, Billionaire Tokens will be usable with any Ethereum Wallet capable of calling functions on smart contracts. Popular wallet choices include MyEtherWallet or Mist
Q: How will the ICO work?
A:
A coin's value is determined by supply and demand - we think that we have the perfect plan solve both of the following issues, that will in turn have the effect of increasing the value of each token:
1: Reduce supply - The deflationary mechanism takes care of this, as there realistically should not be more than 1-2 million tokens after the poker game is launched.
2: Increase demand - Apart from the benefits of the speculative aspects of owning Billionaire Token, people will be able to do super fun stuff with it - play the weekly "Become a Billionaire" raffle and the "Billionaire Hold'em" poker game. And then they can always burn their own coins.
You can participate in the ICO right now - be sure to read all the instructions carefully and review our Terms of use.
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Shortly after the Token Sale we will deploy the "Become a Billionaire" decentralized raffle Smart Contract on the Ethereum Network. The code will pass through a series of peer-reviews and security audits before being deployed. All information will be made public knowledge - we seek to be as transparent as possible.
We believe that after the ICO, people will need another way of safely acquiring Billionaire Tokens, and as such we will personally pay the listing fees for the Exchanges. We are looking at the following exchanges for initial listing:
- Cryptopia
- Novaexchange
- Livecoin
- HitBTC
- EtherDelta
After the "Billionaire Hold'em" poker game is released, we will be aiming higher. Although exchanges like Bittrex and Poloniex are usually more difficult to get in, we are very optimistic that after we will have a solid foothold in the crypto-gambling industry, such exchanges will be more than happy to welcome us.
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Shortly after the Token Sale we will deploy the "Become a Billionaire" decentralized raffle Smart Contract on the Ethereum Network. The code will pass through a series of peer-reviews and security audits before being deployed. All information will be made public knowledge - we seek to be as transparent as possible.
We believe that after the ICO, people will need another way of safely acquiring Billionaire Tokens, and as such we will personally pay the listing fees for the Exchanges. We are looking at the following exchanges for initial listing:
- Cryptopia
- Novaexchange
- Livecoin
- HitBTC
- EtherDelta
After the "Billionaire Hold'em" poker game is released, we will be aiming higher. Although exchanges like Bittrex and Poloniex are usually more difficult to get in, we are very optimistic that after we will have a solid foothold in the crypto-gambling industry, such exchanges will be more than happy to welcome us.
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Q: What are the bounties going to be?
A: Billionaire Token bounties will continually change as our project expands, so keep your eyes out for new opportunities!
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To find out more, please visit our bounty and rewards thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2067236
The Bounty Campaign was available for a limited time, and it ended on 27-August-2017.
The only bounty that remains is the Lamborghini bounty.
This campaign was part of our original token distribution plan. People who provided their services to us will became early adopters of Billionaire Token.
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I am Gluedog, lead developer and coordinator of the Billionaire Token project. I will be here to gladly answer any of your questions.
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Thank you for your time,
Gluedog and The Billionaire Token team
because money really is everything
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Disclaimer:
Billionaire Tokens are not securities, they have no rights, uses, purpose, attributes, functionalities or features, express or implied, including, without limitation, any uses, purpose, attributes, functionalities or features outside of the proprietary software "Become a Billionaire" raffle and "Billionaire Hold'em" poker game.
Billionaire Tokens are a product with a use-case.
Even though Billionaire Tokens are intended to be used as in-game currency for the "Become a Billionaire raffle" and "Billionaire Hold'em" and other upcoming games of the Billionaire Token team, you should still be aware of your own countries laws regarding futures and securities, even though we clearly do not intend Billionaire Tokens (XBL) to be used/sold/marketed as securities or futures, bonds, stocks etc., we can not possibly know every countries internal regulation and as such, buyers are responsible for their own countries laws regarding futures and securities. The Billionaire Token team will not be held liable for misuse of our product.
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To find out more, please visit our bounty and rewards thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2067236
The Bounty Campaign was available for a limited time, and it ended on 27-August-2017.
The only bounty that remains is the Lamborghini bounty.
This campaign was part of our original token distribution plan. People who provided their services to us will became early adopters of Billionaire Token.
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I am Gluedog, lead developer and coordinator of the Billionaire Token project. I will be here to gladly answer any of your questions.
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Thank you for your time,
Gluedog and The Billionaire Token team
because money really is everything
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Disclaimer:
Billionaire Tokens are not securities, they have no rights, uses, purpose, attributes, functionalities or features, express or implied, including, without limitation, any uses, purpose, attributes, functionalities or features outside of the proprietary software "Become a Billionaire" raffle and "Billionaire Hold'em" poker game.
Billionaire Tokens are a product with a use-case.
Even though Billionaire Tokens are intended to be used as in-game currency for the "Become a Billionaire raffle" and "Billionaire Hold'em" and other upcoming games of the Billionaire Token team, you should still be aware of your own countries laws regarding futures and securities, even though we clearly do not intend Billionaire Tokens (XBL) to be used/sold/marketed as securities or futures, bonds, stocks etc., we can not possibly know every countries internal regulation and as such, buyers are responsible for their own countries laws regarding futures and securities. The Billionaire Token team will not be held liable for misuse of our product.
i certainly will be watching the developments closely
Hope it grows well
sudah lama berkecimpung di dunia trading dan mengagap trading itu halal (diperbolehkan dalamagama islam), tpi ada singgungan dari teman dia bilang : ada beberapa pendapat ulama yang bilang makhruh ada juga yang haram...
mungkin dari agan semua ada yg lebih dulu tau atau sudah tanya ke kiyai yang lebih mengerti hukum agama.. bisa di diskusikan disini
mungkin dari agan semua ada yg lebih dulu tau atau sudah tanya ke kiyai yang lebih mengerti hukum agama.. bisa di diskusikan disini
Kalo menurut ane, trading crypto sama dgn jual beli. cuma bedanya online. jd menurut ane gk dilarang
Bitcoin bakal pump sampe 100jt 
bitcoin memang paling keren
Hello,
I am looking for Altcoin Faucet. Is there a current list with an overview?
I am looking for Altcoin Faucet. Is there a current list with an overview?
you can searching in google.
Mungkin ada sebagian dari agan-agan yang "masih" pengangguran dan di hadapkan oleh 2 pilihan. Ingin bermain dengan Bitcoin atau ingin menjadi pekerja kantoran? Kira-kira hal seperti apa yang agan-agan pilih? 
#Share
#Pengangguran
#Galau
#Share
#Pengangguran
#Galau
kerja buat ngedapetin pendapatan tetap
main bitcoin utk tambahan
Re: apakah bounty itu?? masih belum paham tentang Bounty
master" minta pendapat kalian tentang BOUNTY dong? apakah BOUNTY itu sama dengan bitcoin atau berbeda ?
ane numpang nyimak. maklum newbie jg
Ayo sharing agan2 berasal dari mana dan sebagai bitcoimer apa harapan agan semua untuk Negara Kita Tercinta ini ?
Dirgahayu Indonesiaku. Semoga makin jaya dan bisa bersaing positif dengan negara-negara di dunia
I'm playing around with SPROUTS right now, what about you guys? Anything new released recently?
I play bitcoin only
EXSCUDO ICO Complete
Join our Slack Channel! https://exscudo-talk.slack.com
UPDATED PRODUCT TIMELINE
Launch of test net - begin of July
Testing of Channels (beta) on test net - end of July
Launch of main net - end of August
Launch of Channels (market launch) - September
Mission
We strive to create a platform, which unites the world of traditional finance and the cryptocurrency market. Our main goal is to create an easy-to-use, fast, legal, and secure access to the cryptocurrency market for every person with access to the Internet and credit card.
Exscudo
is a Financial Ecosystem that consists of 6 products working together. Each of them was developed in order to bring cryptocurrency closer to users, miners, traders and investors. It is powerful, fast and secure.
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1. Exchange. The digital finance marketplace for beginners and professional traders, financial institutions and institutional investors. The trading system is the engine of liquidity. One of its advantages is the list of transactions in one order list. Another strong feature is the option of trading on margin and simple exchange. Multi Layered architecture, just like with classical trading exchanges for financial and equity markets, which allows a high level of security, flexibility of the systems, as well as opportunities for scaling.
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2. Charts. All data for trades on the cryptocurrency market is located in one place and updates in real time in one place and takes place in real time. For a bird's eye view of all transactions for traders, our listing server provides and accumulates trading data not just from the Exscudo exchange, but provides listing from other cryptocurrency exchanges.
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3. Trading terminals. Trading terminals with a wide range of tools for professionals that are designed just as usable as on traditional exchanges.The Cross-platform trading terminal supports the following platforms:
- Web
- Mobile (iOS, Android)
- Desktop (Linux, MacOS, Windows)
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4. Wallet and Protected messenger. This is one single application that unites the functions of a wallet and of a protected messenger. It allows for easy access to personal data in the system, as well as financial services of Exscudo.
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5. Cards. Debit Cards, which are connected to the user accounts and have, with the option to exchange currencies in real time. The card is accepted all over the world for online purchases and in brick-and-mortar stores with minimum commissions.
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6. Merchant. This is a solution for business entities that are willing to accept cryptocurrencies: the money is converted instantly and automatically instantly and enables the company to operate legally. The fastest, safest and least costly in terms of comission method of payment for clients.
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Powered by Eon
Exscudo Ecosystem is powered by a blockchain coin called Eon. Eon is a DePOS coin, being both a coin and the fuel for all the Exscudo transactions at the same time.
The first product to launch is the Exscudo Channels a chatwallet app that combines the functionality of a protected messenger and of a multicurrency wallet.
ICO
The project plans an ICO in the coming spring. The terms and conditions will be published on the official Exscudo pages. Customers that are potentially interested in investing are kindly invited to sign up on the Exscudo website to receive further information by email.
There will also be a generous Bounty campaign, including translations and signatures. Please follow this topic for further information. It will be published in the coming weeks.
Documents
More about the project
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OFFER
We are currently looking for a native Chinese speaking and writing Community Leader. Please get in touch with us immediately and tell us what steps you would take to promote Exscudo within the Chinese crypto-community.
We are currently looking for a native English and Hindu speaking and writing Community Leader. Please get in touch with us immediately and let us know what steps you would take to promote Exscudo within the Indian crypto-community.
Roadmap
2014
- Developed proprietary blockchain-platform
- Developed basic market core
- Developed listings server and basis for the trading exchange functions
- Developed functional multi currency wallet on the basis of the proprietary blockchain-platform
2015
- Renewed core of the exchange, expanded functions
- Completion of the development of the blockchain-platform with the support of user groups and multiple subscriptions
- Development of functional decentralized secure messenger
- Expansion functions of the exchange functions and the development of the listing server
2016
- Expansion of exchange functions
- Expansion of the listings function of the exchange
- Expansion of trading functions of the exchange
- Redesign architecture of the EON blockchain technology, expansion of the blockchain functions
2017
- Launch of the chatwallet app (decentralized secure messenger and multi currency wallet) (Q2 2017)
- Open beta testing of the exchange (Q2 2017)
- Launch of exchange services (listings server, web-services of multi currency wallet) (Q2/Q3 2017)
- Launch of trading on the exchange (Q2/Q3 2017)
- Launch of the mobile phone trading terminal for Android (Q2/Q3 2017)
- Launch of the mobile phone trading terminal for iOS (Q2/Q3 2017)
- Launch of accounts with the integration of fiat currencies and launch of branded cards (Q2 2017)
2018
- Launch of full trading terminal with expanded functions (Android, iOS, Desktop) (Q1/Q2 2018)
- Launch of merchant-platform (Q1/Q2 2018)
Team and Advisors
Andrew Zimine. CEO, Founder
Alex Sitnikov. CTO, Founder
Alex Rebyakov. Lead Core Developer
Julian Kossinov, M.Sc. European and North American markets Advisor
Christian Kossinov, M.Sc. Financial Strategy Advisor, European and Asian markets Advisor
You can meet other team members and learn more details on our website.
Local Threads:
Filipino (Philippines): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1869224.0
Italian: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1869195
Spanish: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1868800
Portuguese: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1868654
German: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1868364
Chinese: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1867486
Russian: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1866946
Indonesian: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1866898
Turkish: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1866848
French: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1861671
Danish: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1894266
Media about us:
Cointelegraph. Exscudo - The Bridge Between Two Worlds.
NewsBTC. Exscudo - The Bridge Between Two Worlds.
Bitconnect. Exscudo - The Bridge Between Two Worlds.
CryptoCoinsNews. Exscudo - The Bridge Between Two Worlds.
Bitcoinist. Exscudo: The Next Gen Financial Ecosystem Is About To Launch
Cryptorials. Exscudo: The Architecture Of The New Financial Ecosystem
/2017/02/15/russian-blockchain-startup-exscudo-aims-bridge-traditional-finances-cryptocurrency-market/]The-Blockchain. Russian Blockchain Startup Exscudo Aims to Bridge Traditional Finances And The Cryptocurrency Market
Bitcoinist.com. EXSCUDO CEO: CRYPTOCURRENCY EXCHANGE MARKET ALREADY TOO BIG
BTC123. 俄罗斯区块链初创公司Exscudo旨在将传统金融和加密货币市场连接起来
ChainB. 俄罗斯区块链初创公司Exscudo旨在将传统金融和加密货币市场连接起来
Cryptobunch. [EON] EXSCUDO Nextgen Financial Ecosystem
NewsBTC. The Exscudo Channels App Is A New Mobile Wallet And Secure Messenger
Do you really control your money?]
Blog Posts:
Welcome to Exscudo
Why 'Exscudo'?
Exscudo - the bridge between two worlds
Centralized and decentralized exchanges
Why is blockchain tech so secure?
Simplified guide to cryptocurrencies
How merchants can save money if they accept cryptocurrencies
Frequently Asked Questions
Ian DeMartino: It is important to emphasize that you can still be early-adopters
How cryptocurrencies help the unbanked
How Cryptocurrencies are helping Venezuelans get basic goods and supplies
The Exscudo Channels App Is A New Mobile Wallet And Secure Messenger
How Exscudo Helps Miners
Going to watch you and invest some funds.
Buat agan2 d forum ini, mau ty nih kalo trading kbtlan harga beli menurut kita udah rendah nih, eh tau2 harga anjlok bgt, lama nih br bs opit .. pd sering cut loss ngak ?
Kl ane lbh seneng hold aj gan