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Re: [ANN] [ICO] [WGR] | Wagerr | The Betting Blockchain | Bounties
I get the point people are pointing at now, there are alot of Waves tokens asset trading on other bigger exchange, Wagerr team should look to offer a better exchange for liquidity sake. Wave Dex is a rubbish exchange in my opinion so many fake coins on the site and really confusing
They issued 3 days ago. It took PTOY 10 days plust to get on a decent exchange. They have said they are in talks with exchanges. Very few ICOs open on big exchanges the day the coins are issued.
Re: [ANN] [ICO] [WGR] | Wagerr | The Betting Blockchain | Bounties
yes
dude come on...lol its possible.. but not probable.
Maybe in like 10 years when crypto is the standard and everything works.
Re: [ANN] [ICO] [WGR] | Wagerr | The Betting Blockchain | Bounties
When will the bonuses be applied for the earlier rounds?
Any idea?
I heard they are finishing up the ETH TXs that got screwed up by the other ETH icos... and once its finalized they will add the bonuses.
Re: [ANN] [ICO] [WGR] | Wagerr | The Betting Blockchain | Bounties
Hi,
Although this project sounds interesting at first sight, and it's the first decentralized sports betting platform that seems to have clear goals, I have some doubts about this project being a success, besides the price of the token or the amount of money raised during the ICO.
As far as I'm concerned, the biggest value seems to be the oracle masternode, where anyone holding a certain amount of tokens will be able to act as the bookmaker and earn half of the fee that bettors pay (still not sure about the exact requirements for this oracle masternode).
I will try to focus in the main aim of this company, which is to compete against existing sportsbooks, and create an edge for players to move to this platform.
There are two types of bettors, which are mug players and professionals.
The mug players will always need the following requirements for a new sportsbook:
- User friendly, easy to use interface
- Welcome bonuses. This is the typical catch that most bookies use (in many cases it means a cost for companies, due to bonus abusers).
- PROPAGANDA, and by this I mean mainstream advertising, as all the scam, worldwide known bookmakers do, which makes mugs feel their money is safe playing with them (doesn't really matter if it really is safe, the perception is key here), and they are getting the best deal (usually they are getting the worst deal, but then again, they don't care). This will be expensive, and wagerr will have to compete against billion dollar companies.
- Easy to deposit/withdraw money. Here I see the biggest problem, since mugs are not generally used to crypto, and are pretty skeptical (those who are even familiar to this industry). Even more with the volatility of the market.
- Feeling of being "safe" using the company. This again is related to propaganda, and since cryptocurrencies are not known for good things among general public, I see a very difficult task here to convince people to "risk" their money and avoid current easy-to-use options.
The professionals will need the following things:
- LOW JUICE (low fees), and therefore bigger payouts.
- LIQUIDITY, which is 100% linked to low juice (see PINNACLE business model)
- safe deposits and withdrawals
- No limits/bans on winning accounts
As far as I'm concerned, the lowest fees are 2% on head to head betting and 4% on multi-user betting (this does not beat some of the current leading exchange bookmakers such as matchbook (1%), Smarkets (2%).
The fee for direct chain betting (I guess this is typical "bet against the house odds" system) is 6%, which certainly won't be even close to beating main asian bookmakers, neither in fee nor liquidity.
In case wagerr is thinking about implementing a mode where people can bet against the system, this is a huge risk, and here is why.
Most bookmakers profit from a large number of mug players, and are not able to compete against professionals. In order to still be profitable companies, what they do is limit winning accounts.
If wagerr is planning on decentralized betting, without identity verification and other KYC procedures, they need to be among the very few companies that are profitable against professionals (this would be very expensive, as they would need to hire the best traders and attract the best market makers), otherwise they will be eaten out by value bettors and arbers.
I guess you might think that decentralizing the service is an advantage against current companies, but I will explain you why I think it is not necessarily that way.
Mug players are losing players, who don't even care enough to pay attention to this (this is the vast majority of players), and as I mentioned before, they just need to be brainwashed with very expensive propaganda, welcome bonuses and user friendly interface.
Professionals currently have access to companies who offer huge limits (impossible to replicate by wagerr under their current terms) and lower fees.
They can use reputable and trusted betting agents to access anonymously to many of these companies, and even deposit and withdraw using bitcoin if they want further anonymity.
With all this being said, the cherry of the pie, which are the oracle masternode, is useless without the ability to bring money to the platform, and therefore liquidity.
By no means I'm saying that investing in this token will not be profitable in the short term, since it's a pretty hyped project, but I would not expect this company to be successful in the mid-long term under the current conditions.
Although this project sounds interesting at first sight, and it's the first decentralized sports betting platform that seems to have clear goals, I have some doubts about this project being a success, besides the price of the token or the amount of money raised during the ICO.
As far as I'm concerned, the biggest value seems to be the oracle masternode, where anyone holding a certain amount of tokens will be able to act as the bookmaker and earn half of the fee that bettors pay (still not sure about the exact requirements for this oracle masternode).
I will try to focus in the main aim of this company, which is to compete against existing sportsbooks, and create an edge for players to move to this platform.
There are two types of bettors, which are mug players and professionals.
The mug players will always need the following requirements for a new sportsbook:
- User friendly, easy to use interface
- Welcome bonuses. This is the typical catch that most bookies use (in many cases it means a cost for companies, due to bonus abusers).
- PROPAGANDA, and by this I mean mainstream advertising, as all the scam, worldwide known bookmakers do, which makes mugs feel their money is safe playing with them (doesn't really matter if it really is safe, the perception is key here), and they are getting the best deal (usually they are getting the worst deal, but then again, they don't care). This will be expensive, and wagerr will have to compete against billion dollar companies.
- Easy to deposit/withdraw money. Here I see the biggest problem, since mugs are not generally used to crypto, and are pretty skeptical (those who are even familiar to this industry). Even more with the volatility of the market.
- Feeling of being "safe" using the company. This again is related to propaganda, and since cryptocurrencies are not known for good things among general public, I see a very difficult task here to convince people to "risk" their money and avoid current easy-to-use options.
The professionals will need the following things:
- LOW JUICE (low fees), and therefore bigger payouts.
- LIQUIDITY, which is 100% linked to low juice (see PINNACLE business model)
- safe deposits and withdrawals
- No limits/bans on winning accounts
As far as I'm concerned, the lowest fees are 2% on head to head betting and 4% on multi-user betting (this does not beat some of the current leading exchange bookmakers such as matchbook (1%), Smarkets (2%).
The fee for direct chain betting (I guess this is typical "bet against the house odds" system) is 6%, which certainly won't be even close to beating main asian bookmakers, neither in fee nor liquidity.
In case wagerr is thinking about implementing a mode where people can bet against the system, this is a huge risk, and here is why.
Most bookmakers profit from a large number of mug players, and are not able to compete against professionals. In order to still be profitable companies, what they do is limit winning accounts.
If wagerr is planning on decentralized betting, without identity verification and other KYC procedures, they need to be among the very few companies that are profitable against professionals (this would be very expensive, as they would need to hire the best traders and attract the best market makers), otherwise they will be eaten out by value bettors and arbers.
I guess you might think that decentralizing the service is an advantage against current companies, but I will explain you why I think it is not necessarily that way.
Mug players are losing players, who don't even care enough to pay attention to this (this is the vast majority of players), and as I mentioned before, they just need to be brainwashed with very expensive propaganda, welcome bonuses and user friendly interface.
Professionals currently have access to companies who offer huge limits (impossible to replicate by wagerr under their current terms) and lower fees.
They can use reputable and trusted betting agents to access anonymously to many of these companies, and even deposit and withdraw using bitcoin if they want further anonymity.
With all this being said, the cherry of the pie, which are the oracle masternode, is useless without the ability to bring money to the platform, and therefore liquidity.
By no means I'm saying that investing in this token will not be profitable in the short term, since it's a pretty hyped project, but I would not expect this company to be successful in the mid-long term under the current conditions.
The biggest issue with your post is you are wrong.. The 2% fee is against the winning payout.. MEANING that its 1% against the total bet... meaning that it absolutely either beats or at the very least ties the lowest fees out there.
Thanks for your opinion tho, but regulation will only get worse. As governments grow, their power and reach will only increase, centralized systems will be shafted first. Like it or not Wagerr is a really great use case for what is already a starving world, that in my opinion only going to get worse.
Well, my point is not wrong because most betting exchanges measure their fees either in winning part of the bet, or in the stake (or sometimes the higher of both). This is taken for granted.
Even though fee being on winning bets means the true cost is lower, it does not really mean it is 1% on payout, as that depends on the odds you are playing. Low odds will have fees under 1% of your total payout and higher odds will have higher fees.
This would be very good if it applied both to head-to-head and multi-user (twice the fee from head to head).
Take into account that existing bookies don't distinguish between these two types of bets, as your stake can be matched entirely by one player, or by as many players as it's necessary (or not every bet entirely matched).
By the way, this certainly does not beat the lowest fees in the market, and will have trouble beating highest liquidity as well.
However, what I consider to be a bigger issue about the business model is unlimited chain betting, as the system is proposing an easy way to avoid being banned.
As I mentioned before, very few bookies where you bet against the system are sharp enough to be profitable against pro players, and 99% of them avoid them by limiting accounts.
Their chain betting model has fees that are too high to compete against industry leaders, but low enough to offer value and create arbitrage opportunities.
In their white paper, they say the following:
"Peerless direct chain betting.
Peerless betting does not require a complementary transaction to forge a contract. Any bettor can initiate a contract on chain, which the Wagerr network is programmed to pay out if the bettor wins.".
This is a very risky behavior, as tokens will be generated to pay winning players, and believe me that without account limits they will most probably attract many arbitrage bettors and value investors who will make them lose money (big time).
There are still many countries where online gambling is not taxed, so decentralizing the industry will not be a fast procedure.
It's true on the other hand that regulation is horrible and will get worse for most people (ask people who use skrill and neteller how they feel about CRS and their money being safe), but in my opinion, it will be more likely to see consolidated and profitable bookies add bitcoin as payment method, and even as currency for betting, either directly or through betting agents, than a project like this or any other existing one being successful.
Anyhow, time will tell us if this project can attract at least a portion of the huge betting industry.
Let's hope some day we can see a decentralized bookie worth using, either this one or any other one, as it will be amazing news for so many people who bet on sports for a living.
A classic take from someone who trusts centralized systems. Go ahead keep all your money/fiat/bitcoin on a site that is controlled by and held by a single entity or person. If you want to roll the dice be my guest, sounds like you are a betting man as is anyhow so it makes sense. Just don't come complaining when the government freezes it, or the company just ups and walks away with it, or gets it taken from them.
This project takes advantage of the power of decentralization better than almost all that i have seen out there to date. (at least in proposal)
"If you don't hold the keys, you don't own the coin." or dollars for that matter as well...
Re: [ANN] [ICO] [WGR] | Wagerr | The Betting Blockchain | Bounties
Hi,
Although this project sounds interesting at first sight, and it's the first decentralized sports betting platform that seems to have clear goals, I have some doubts about this project being a success, besides the price of the token or the amount of money raised during the ICO.
As far as I'm concerned, the biggest value seems to be the oracle masternode, where anyone holding a certain amount of tokens will be able to act as the bookmaker and earn half of the fee that bettors pay (still not sure about the exact requirements for this oracle masternode).
I will try to focus in the main aim of this company, which is to compete against existing sportsbooks, and create an edge for players to move to this platform.
There are two types of bettors, which are mug players and professionals.
The mug players will always need the following requirements for a new sportsbook:
- User friendly, easy to use interface
- Welcome bonuses. This is the typical catch that most bookies use (in many cases it means a cost for companies, due to bonus abusers).
- PROPAGANDA, and by this I mean mainstream advertising, as all the scam, worldwide known bookmakers do, which makes mugs feel their money is safe playing with them (doesn't really matter if it really is safe, the perception is key here), and they are getting the best deal (usually they are getting the worst deal, but then again, they don't care). This will be expensive, and wagerr will have to compete against billion dollar companies.
- Easy to deposit/withdraw money. Here I see the biggest problem, since mugs are not generally used to crypto, and are pretty skeptical (those who are even familiar to this industry). Even more with the volatility of the market.
- Feeling of being "safe" using the company. This again is related to propaganda, and since cryptocurrencies are not known for good things among general public, I see a very difficult task here to convince people to "risk" their money and avoid current easy-to-use options.
The professionals will need the following things:
- LOW JUICE (low fees), and therefore bigger payouts.
- LIQUIDITY, which is 100% linked to low juice (see PINNACLE business model)
- safe deposits and withdrawals
- No limits/bans on winning accounts
As far as I'm concerned, the lowest fees are 2% on head to head betting and 4% on multi-user betting (this does not beat some of the current leading exchange bookmakers such as matchbook (1%), Smarkets (2%).
The fee for direct chain betting (I guess this is typical "bet against the house odds" system) is 6%, which certainly won't be even close to beating main asian bookmakers, neither in fee nor liquidity.
In case wagerr is thinking about implementing a mode where people can bet against the system, this is a huge risk, and here is why.
Most bookmakers profit from a large number of mug players, and are not able to compete against professionals. In order to still be profitable companies, what they do is limit winning accounts.
If wagerr is planning on decentralized betting, without identity verification and other KYC procedures, they need to be among the very few companies that are profitable against professionals (this would be very expensive, as they would need to hire the best traders and attract the best market makers), otherwise they will be eaten out by value bettors and arbers.
I guess you might think that decentralizing the service is an advantage against current companies, but I will explain you why I think it is not necessarily that way.
Mug players are losing players, who don't even care enough to pay attention to this (this is the vast majority of players), and as I mentioned before, they just need to be brainwashed with very expensive propaganda, welcome bonuses and user friendly interface.
Professionals currently have access to companies who offer huge limits (impossible to replicate by wagerr under their current terms) and lower fees.
They can use reputable and trusted betting agents to access anonymously to many of these companies, and even deposit and withdraw using bitcoin if they want further anonymity.
With all this being said, the cherry of the pie, which are the oracle masternode, is useless without the ability to bring money to the platform, and therefore liquidity.
By no means I'm saying that investing in this token will not be profitable in the short term, since it's a pretty hyped project, but I would not expect this company to be successful in the mid-long term under the current conditions.
Although this project sounds interesting at first sight, and it's the first decentralized sports betting platform that seems to have clear goals, I have some doubts about this project being a success, besides the price of the token or the amount of money raised during the ICO.
As far as I'm concerned, the biggest value seems to be the oracle masternode, where anyone holding a certain amount of tokens will be able to act as the bookmaker and earn half of the fee that bettors pay (still not sure about the exact requirements for this oracle masternode).
I will try to focus in the main aim of this company, which is to compete against existing sportsbooks, and create an edge for players to move to this platform.
There are two types of bettors, which are mug players and professionals.
The mug players will always need the following requirements for a new sportsbook:
- User friendly, easy to use interface
- Welcome bonuses. This is the typical catch that most bookies use (in many cases it means a cost for companies, due to bonus abusers).
- PROPAGANDA, and by this I mean mainstream advertising, as all the scam, worldwide known bookmakers do, which makes mugs feel their money is safe playing with them (doesn't really matter if it really is safe, the perception is key here), and they are getting the best deal (usually they are getting the worst deal, but then again, they don't care). This will be expensive, and wagerr will have to compete against billion dollar companies.
- Easy to deposit/withdraw money. Here I see the biggest problem, since mugs are not generally used to crypto, and are pretty skeptical (those who are even familiar to this industry). Even more with the volatility of the market.
- Feeling of being "safe" using the company. This again is related to propaganda, and since cryptocurrencies are not known for good things among general public, I see a very difficult task here to convince people to "risk" their money and avoid current easy-to-use options.
The professionals will need the following things:
- LOW JUICE (low fees), and therefore bigger payouts.
- LIQUIDITY, which is 100% linked to low juice (see PINNACLE business model)
- safe deposits and withdrawals
- No limits/bans on winning accounts
As far as I'm concerned, the lowest fees are 2% on head to head betting and 4% on multi-user betting (this does not beat some of the current leading exchange bookmakers such as matchbook (1%), Smarkets (2%).
The fee for direct chain betting (I guess this is typical "bet against the house odds" system) is 6%, which certainly won't be even close to beating main asian bookmakers, neither in fee nor liquidity.
In case wagerr is thinking about implementing a mode where people can bet against the system, this is a huge risk, and here is why.
Most bookmakers profit from a large number of mug players, and are not able to compete against professionals. In order to still be profitable companies, what they do is limit winning accounts.
If wagerr is planning on decentralized betting, without identity verification and other KYC procedures, they need to be among the very few companies that are profitable against professionals (this would be very expensive, as they would need to hire the best traders and attract the best market makers), otherwise they will be eaten out by value bettors and arbers.
I guess you might think that decentralizing the service is an advantage against current companies, but I will explain you why I think it is not necessarily that way.
Mug players are losing players, who don't even care enough to pay attention to this (this is the vast majority of players), and as I mentioned before, they just need to be brainwashed with very expensive propaganda, welcome bonuses and user friendly interface.
Professionals currently have access to companies who offer huge limits (impossible to replicate by wagerr under their current terms) and lower fees.
They can use reputable and trusted betting agents to access anonymously to many of these companies, and even deposit and withdraw using bitcoin if they want further anonymity.
With all this being said, the cherry of the pie, which are the oracle masternode, is useless without the ability to bring money to the platform, and therefore liquidity.
By no means I'm saying that investing in this token will not be profitable in the short term, since it's a pretty hyped project, but I would not expect this company to be successful in the mid-long term under the current conditions.
The biggest issue with your post is you are wrong.. The 2% fee is against the winning payout.. MEANING that its 1% against the total bet... meaning that it absolutely either beats or at the very least ties the lowest fees out there.
Thanks for your opinion tho, but regulation will only get worse. As governments grow, their power and reach will only increase, centralized systems will be shafted first. Like it or not Wagerr is a really great use case for what is already a starving world, that in my opinion only going to get worse.
Re: [ANN] [ICO] [WGR] | Wagerr | The Betting Blockchain | Bounties
this coin can be $0.25 - $0.30 easily once it hits the second market.
Hi , could you say how you derive the figures please?it's not hard to predict where it goes. this coin will have 20 million usd marketcap when it is only $0.10. considering every crypto in a bubble right now 0.25 $0.30 per coin would be 40 - 50 million marketcap which is pretty doable. if the dev team provides what they promise and we can actually bet on blockchain then even $1 is possible. but hey you know i am just another speculator, speculating about possibilities. don't put more than you can't afford to lose my friend.
Can't stress this enough. I think it is a solid idea, good pitch and a promising wallet demo. Shows at least some skills in the code and UX department. But none the less, no one should be investing more than they can afford to lose!
Keep calm... and Wagerr on.
Re: [ANN] [ICO] [WGR] | Wagerr | The Betting Blockchain | Bounties
The devs need to burn some of the money invested in Marketing, the market is really huge
I think you are right. There is too less Coins for Marketing.
At this rate if it sells out they will have over 1 million dollars USD to market this beast based off of the 10 percent in the whitepaper.
Re: [ANN] [ICO] [WGR] | Wagerr | The Betting Blockchain | Bounties
Then just wait until it hits markets and then come back here and tell us how smart you are
Seen it time and again first with Zcash, then BAT, next in line is this one and Bancor
Do you really think this coin will not drop 50% in days of trading?
Any coin which raises more than it needs to develop will correct itself in a free market with the excess money being drained out by whales, leaving puppets with bags of dust at 50% of its cost.
So in this theory, the whales in this ICO will just instantly take a 50% to 25% loss right out of the gate? All because of panic and they sell at a loss?
Also both of these coins (ZEC and BAT) are way up from when they first hit the market. BAT is up 400%+ from its ICO of mere days ago. If you are going to say stuff like this maybe you should actually check if what you are saying is even true.
Re: [ANN] [ICO] [WGR] | Wagerr | The Betting Blockchain | Bounties
Can the developers give a break up of how these funds would be spent?
The target seems to be quite a lot, so a break up should be necessary at the moment.
The target seems to be quite a lot, so a break up should be necessary at the moment.
section 11.0 and Page 29 of the whitepaper lines this out.
10% Marketing
5% Legal
5% Accounting
5% Consultants
75% Developers
However, i have read David said that with the extra rounds this moves 20% to marketing and 65% to dev.
Re: [ANN] [ICO] [WGR] | Wagerr | The Betting Blockchain | Bounties
I have been lurking around the forum for a month or two trying my best to learn everything. To me , Wagerr just seems like a damn good idea. Its the first ICO I have been a part of.
Agreed! Scammers need to scam because they do not have the intelligence to come up with a fantastic idea that would turn into multi-billion project.
Up to this day, even the Wagerr manifesting idea, plus the works that they have done so far, already worth billion dollars. Is it not a stupid stomach aching joke if they run away from the multi-billion project carrying that little fun lesser than 20 million dollars? Furthermore, their 50,000 dollars capital is definitely not a small pay up for an average IT company.
Let's say, even if their introduced programmers do not exist. With such sufficient capitals, they simply need to hire a truck of programmers from Philippine or India through Feelancer, and that would be much cheaper.
Not at all! I'm just a broke with several thousand dollars savings. I saw the word Wagerr a week ago from here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1691917.540 on page28 mentioned by a senior member-Slap. After an extremely meticulous analysis, I have invested all my saving on Wagerr. (You interested fellow investors reading my post now can find my simple assessment here on page 47 & 48).
As I'm totally committed on Wagerr, I must not allow these stupid jokers to sabotage every single daily progress of this project. Sure! I'm now sitting in front of the computer most of my time watching these vain stupid joker shows for fun!
For you interested investors out there, if you read my assessment on page 47 and 48, you'll understand, whether you get in now or not, it really do not effect me much, as I'm not a plotting speculator. But if you buy now, it's a matter of your own good.
I'm not paid a tiny Wagerr or penny by the team. I'm totally volunteer! Because, I'm totally certain, this the only opportunity in my life time to flee myself from the difficult life, even by my pathetically little several thousand dollars savings.
Can't you guys think a little bit what is actually happening here? Have you guys not read those miraculous get-rich examples in the past out there?
Dude... i get it you are excited... but wtf does this last line mean?
Also, this is terrible advice. To anyone reading, diversify your investments do not bet it all on anything. Also please do not buy any digital currency with your entire savings. (and yeah i mean ANY)
Re: [ANN] [ICO] [WGR] | Wagerr | The Betting Blockchain | Bounties
Im confused about people being worried about it being offshore?... most of the ICO's ive seen are offshore to prevent regulation, and this one is even more important that it is offshore.
and to avoid taxes which is not legal alsoI took this from official website
"The world needs Wagerr. Millions of people bet billions of Dollars every year. And when they bet on sports in the underground market,..."
this is nonsense, the company is registered in Belize offshore and offshore itself is considered "underground"
That is literally why im here... I cannot bet legally where i live. I think that is bullshit, and wagerr is offering (at least on paper as an idea) a way for me to be able to bet on sports and not have to worry about taxes.. and and third parties freezing my accounts or what have you.
I agree nothing exists other than a sales pitch but i dont know what makes you think they should have launched this from a non-offshore company. The mere fact that you think it shouldn't be launched via offshore makes me laugh a little.
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I have been lurking around the forum for a month or two trying my best to learn everything. To me , Wagerr just seems like a damn good idea. Its the first ICO I have been a part of.
Agreed! Scammers need to scam because they do not have the intelligence to come up with a fantastic idea that would turn into multi-billion project.
Up to this day, even the Wagerr manifesting idea, plus the works that they have done so far, already worth billion dollars. Is it not a stupid stomach aching joke if they run away from the multi-billion project carrying that little fun lesser than 20 million dollars? Furthermore, their 50,000 dollars capital is definitely not a small pay up for an average IT company.
Let's say, even if their introduced programmers do not exist. With such sufficient capitals, they simply need to hire a truck of programmers from Philippine or India through Feelancer, and that would be much cheaper.
I agree he seems to be a bit overzealous but i think the point is not all that bad, If indeed David is legit, he does have the money to make stuff happen now that is for sure.
Re: [ANN] [ICO] [WGR] | Wagerr | The Betting Blockchain | Bounties
So we are basically throwing money because we like the idea and we don't even know who the guys from the team are and what they've done in the past?
If someone has some information, please reply.
)
If someone has some information, please reply.
)When i asked on slack many days ago i was given linked in profiles and talked to Robert and David directly
https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-mah-3ba983143/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomas-mclaughlin-70a39578/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnchoi11/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/wagerrx/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jm-maradiaga-95a988141/
Idk about the Frank guy though, but i assume he is just the angel investor/bettor they were talking about on slack.
Re: [ANN] [ICO] [WGR] | Wagerr | The Betting Blockchain | Bounties
Im confused about people being worried about it being offshore?... most of the ICO's ive seen are offshore to prevent regulation, and this one is even more important that it is offshore. Every betting website i deal with is offshore. At least in my country, thats why i need wagerr.
Re: [ANN] [ICO] [WGR] | Wagerr | The Betting Blockchain | Bounties
Hey folks - just bought my first share of wagerr.
Typically how long does it take for the transaction to show up on the purchase history? I bought mine roughly 45 minutes ago, and still nothing there - the bitcoins seems to be removed from my wallet though.
Typically how long does it take for the transaction to show up on the purchase history? I bought mine roughly 45 minutes ago, and still nothing there - the bitcoins seems to be removed from my wallet though.
You need to email support@wagerr.com they will fix it if you shorted the fee or not.
Their support is stellar btw.
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Now every round is still successfully sold out within a single day, despite the price-up of USD0.005 on each round. This means that, let's say if the 20th round is finished on the 15th of Jun, and if Wagerr is being launched on the 1st of July, its reasonable price should be USD0.0005 X 15(the other 15 days left in Jun) + USD0.1(price at the 20th round) + USD0.005(for the 1st of July itself) = USD0.18
It doesn't matter even if it is launched with 10 billion coin supply, because it is a value-coupling coin(1-2% fee destroyed would go unbelievably fast, because daily global betting volume is too gigantic).
If its coin supply is 10 times of Ethereum which would be 923,661,980, Wagerr's market value should be 1/10 times of Ethereum which should be USD29+-( Ethereum's price now is $ 291.779538), unmentioned their daily volume comparison yet.
Ethereum's up-to-date total daily volume on exchanges is USD$ 649,410,157. The estimated yearly sport betting volume is 3 trillion(http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-3040540/Global-sports-gambling-worth-3-trillion.html). If Wagerr is used by 10% of all sport bettors, its daily transaction volume should be USD3,000,000,000,000 divided by 365days divided by 10= USD821,917,808(excluded total daily volume on exchanges yet!!!).
Even if Wagerr is launched at USD1.00, it is still blindly stupidly pathetically insanely motherfuckingly undervalued!
Help! I can't stop giggling at sleep.
Some of my friends asked me: "what if they scam away the fund?" Yeah! If I'm a joker Wagerr team member holding 1million Wagerr in hand, I'd surely run or dump the hell out of it before its market price hits USD0.18 !
2018 hosts the most of world sport events. But I must whip their ass so that they can beautifully get the application ready before 2018 FIFA World Cup Russia.
It doesn't matter even if it is launched with 10 billion coin supply, because it is a value-coupling coin(1-2% fee destroyed would go unbelievably fast, because daily global betting volume is too gigantic).
If its coin supply is 10 times of Ethereum which would be 923,661,980, Wagerr's market value should be 1/10 times of Ethereum which should be USD29+-( Ethereum's price now is $ 291.779538), unmentioned their daily volume comparison yet.
Ethereum's up-to-date total daily volume on exchanges is USD$ 649,410,157. The estimated yearly sport betting volume is 3 trillion(http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-3040540/Global-sports-gambling-worth-3-trillion.html). If Wagerr is used by 10% of all sport bettors, its daily transaction volume should be USD3,000,000,000,000 divided by 365days divided by 10= USD821,917,808(excluded total daily volume on exchanges yet!!!).
Even if Wagerr is launched at USD1.00, it is still blindly stupidly pathetically insanely motherfuckingly undervalued!
Help! I can't stop giggling at sleep.
Some of my friends asked me: "what if they scam away the fund?" Yeah! If I'm a joker Wagerr team member holding 1million Wagerr in hand, I'd surely run or dump the hell out of it before its market price hits USD0.18 !
2018 hosts the most of world sport events. But I must whip their ass so that they can beautifully get the application ready before 2018 FIFA World Cup Russia.
This is easily the right assessment, the Wagerr Team will hold millions of coins that stand to be worth millions and millions more, This project is more than achievable with they are raising, they have the incentive to make it and become far more wealthy as well.
Im excited
Re: [PRE-ANN] [ICO] [WGR] | Wagerr | The Betting Blockchain | Bounties
To be honest I haven't followed ICO'S as much as you guys so can you tell me if comparatively Wagerr has been successfull? I hear you guys saying it has but in comparison to other ICO's how has it stacked up?
depends on what you are comparing it to. Gnosis raised 12 million total. If wagerr sells out it will raise about 11 million. Other projects ive seen raise anywhere from 100k to 1 million and the mid to larger ones rarely go over 5 million. Which wagerr has already blown away that number in less than a week of the ICO beginning.
So if you ask me its significantly bigger than 95% of them.
which in my mind makes it more successful. If that helps.
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Wagerr has raised 5.25 million dollars in just 6 days. The ICO continues!
This thing is gonna moon, 3400 ico buyers... this is fantastic.
We're now at 3652 participants in Round 14. The dev team had a well thought out plan on how their ICO should be run.
I also like the 50k buy limit per transaction for the initial rounds so the whales didn't scoop up the entire offering. No Black Friday Wal-Mart scramble like the BAT ICO.
Is it me or is this participation level really high? To me this speaks volumes to its future potential.
I dont know about 700 or so, seems im seeing closer to a 1k to 2k. But still a huge difference comparatively. I think this is a massive advantage in the future.
Re: [PRE-ANN] [ICO] [WGR] | Wagerr | The Betting Blockchain | Bounties
Wagerr has raised 5.25 million dollars in just 6 days. The ICO continues!
This thing is gonna moon, 3400 ico buyers... this is fantastic.
We're now at 3652 participants in Round 14. The dev team had a well thought out plan on how their ICO should be run.
I also like the 50k buy limit per transaction for the initial rounds so the whales didn't scoop up the entire offering. No Black Friday Wal-Mart scramble like the BAT ICO.
Is it me or is this participation level really high? To me this speaks volumes to its future potential.