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Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
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holyprofit
on 29/11/2014, 13:33:12 UTC

.. 400% down  ...


400% down you say - sounds like you know what you're talking about
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Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
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holyprofit
on 27/11/2014, 18:15:29 UTC
Anyone having an issue should get onto the Troubleshooting thread in XCurrency's Slack. Seems to be sorted.



Hi, I have this issue, how do I get to the solution? I'd have assumed this would be on XCtalk or here particularly as it's clearly not an isolated case. Sorry my first post is a whinge but I've been in XC for a while and now also Blocknet and having followed the forum for months now surely it's clear that further diluting communications isn't really helping anybody.

If someone could post the solution here I'd really appreciate it.

Cheers

Ian

it seems to be a bit of a weird one.  Infinitechaos had this problem for quite a while and suddenly it just started syncing.  A few others still have the problem but generally,  it seems to be a case of close it down wait,  and it should sort itself out.  I've got both of my wallets sorted now.  One was just very slow to sync,  but got there in the end,  the other was a completely seperate problem but was sorted thanks to the community members on slack.




I know this isn't exactly a very technical answer,  but I suggest joining slack if you want a quicker response and more direct help.  It's starting to get quite busy there now and there should be someone about unless everyone is asleep.  Pm me your email for an invite. 

Can you pm me an invite as well - thanks
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Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
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holyprofit
on 25/11/2014, 01:17:22 UTC
I think others said it already but it's great to see our usual positivity returning to this thread again especially from you Arlyn. Thanks also for updating us on the way this has affected you because I think many of us worried about how this might affect your feelings towards the whole project. I think there were plenty of us that were dismissing the fud but in the end it counter productive to engage with it. That's actually why I haven't posted much lately. This was obviously something of a trial but now it's over I'm really looking forward to what's to come!
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Re: [ANN][Blocknet] The internet of blockchains | XBridge | true cross-chain P2P
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holyprofit
on 24/11/2014, 16:01:48 UTC

Xbridge working sample is supposed to be released this week correct? Or a code update anyway.

No.

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Regarding XC.. the NEW TORISO update was not released to the public we just discovered it in the download folder of the website. will there be official ann for that in the XC forum? is it safe to put coins there?

Dan did not feel a test release needed fanfare. --> "This is 64bit test only software, use at your own risk, user accepts no implied warranty..."

Can we talk about XC-related stuff on xctalk.com? This is the wrong thread.


Hi Arlyn,

Can someone moderate the BTT thread on XC - either that or it should be closed if the anns are only going on XC forum anyway - or at least there should be some dev presence on it. At the moment it is just a place for rdnkjl to slag XC/Block off and reads more like an anti-XC/Block thread.
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Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
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holyprofit
on 23/11/2014, 22:37:55 UTC

Or maybe he is a mature man that doesn't hold others accountable for his investments loss.
So many immature boys in here doesn't take responsibility for their own actions.
Read qawzsx post history, he is a good man.


Could somebody try to explain to me why oh why would anybody sell so low after getting in on the ICO for at least 250sat?
My head is about to explode from trying to reason that. I know, panic sellers, but that doesn't explain the shear stupidity!


Simple, huge hands pushing the price down (creating panic because there are enough idiots out there) with small orders while accumulating from panic sellers...



^This guy gets it. Wink

Well, not only that, I'm DOING it

Look, they are cutting losses Smiley))))) pro traders. Hope I can accumulate under 200 too. That would be nice

Here's some post history for you. I quote --> "Well, not only that, I'm DOING it". 
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Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
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holyprofit
on 23/11/2014, 01:00:00 UTC
why doubt XC would have trouble adoption...

Another big coin had it for a long time
not so long ago been opensourced

stop crying like a little baby and GTFO

while i agree darkcoin was stupid.  if you look at their price they weren't dumped like XC - probably because they had first mover advantage (even with stupid practices)

plus they didn't have the blocknet dilluting their development resources.

I know you are trolling but others might not, so I'm gonna reply to your poor FUD attempt.
XC is still being developed.
Even if it was true that development powers were currently only going into Blocknet, that would still be a development on XC as with all the other coins in Blocknet.
Blocknet is a service feature added to all the coins in the network. It resembles inbound and part of outbound logistics in the coins value chain. I don't expect you to understand this, but then again this message is intended to others reading this thread and not as much a reply to you personally.
The metaphor that Blocknet is equivalent to several small businesses joining forces to create a shopping mall for themselves still stands.

The time you waste posting with your shill accounts in here.. so sad... get a job and GTFO

My thoughts exactly. How f**king sad. They spend their whole sunday shitting in the thread of something they supposedly don't care about. Do you think they have families or any kind of life whatsoever?
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Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
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holyprofit
on 22/11/2014, 22:12:05 UTC

IKR?  .. Cheesy

Who are you talking to? What do you want to achieve by your posts?
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Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
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holyprofit
on 22/11/2014, 21:34:24 UTC
You misunderstand the situation, XC has no intention of being permanently closed-source. The Rev1 mixer code has already been released, and code will continue to be released on a delayed timeline as new Rev's come out.

Bitcoin doesn't delay release of its code and instead makes sure that it is thoroughly reviewed by the entire world before incorporating anything new into the official version.  Monero does the same.

The "delayed timeline" approach reeks of insecurity (in both compsec and psych sense of the word).

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and should be welcomed as a key form of validation, not avoided.

Only a total newb would accept obscurity as a form of security and source of value.



Lalalalalala We are not listening!

Weird. Is this the thread for depressed people who are going to bail out at the bottom? Plus Pookie. Looks like. Meanwhile torsticks are shipping and Arlyn posts about it in xcforum and gets coverage for it in crytpoarticles. If you want to know why he hasn't been round here the past couple of days it's because your all a bunch a miserable bastards. If you want to know who's pushing down the price of XC look in the mirror.   
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Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
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holyprofit
on 18/11/2014, 16:50:45 UTC

XC Daily update posted @ http://xctalk.com/index.php?/topic/242-daily-update/#entry1642


It has become quite clear that there is a motivated FUD campaign to drive down the price of both XC and Blocknet using multiple fake troll accounts


For the TOR_Sticks, they should be shipping today or tomorrow to my office and then I will send them out, and if anybody wants a refund, then I will honor that just PM me.

Dan


This is fantastic!! - I am really happy to see formal updates back. I think this is the best defence against fud.
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Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
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holyprofit
on 18/11/2014, 11:23:57 UTC
Agreed with the above.

For the record, I hope the team goes silent until they they drop what will shake the crypto world.

The amount of fud and all around "demanding to be heard bs" just messes with people and obfuscates what is really happening.  

He has a stout resume.  If he says bulletproof then I believe it (I really don't care if you want to challenge why I believe it; I'm in too many debates right now).  

If XC had delivered 'bulletproof' five months ago than I wouldn't be postin here right now...because it is a hell of a claim and should require time.

Let the man work.  Get over yourself and take a walk in the real world...it's cathartic.

My two cents.  

Which is why - as a lot of us keep saying - resuming the daily updates would be a good idea. No need to respond to any of the bs or fud if they do that. Just a single professional summary of what is happening right now should be enough, and is better than trying to deal with every piece of crap individually.
If you go that way daily is way to much. they had no time for it before, don't think they have time for it now


No problem - weekly would be perfect. I would be very happy to see a weekly summary post in fact - everything else in this thread except legitimate conversation about XC gets deleted. The weekly post can be reposted if it gets lost too far back - the effort to do this would be minimal - modulo how many troll posts have to be deleted. But I don't see why this thread has to be either closed completely or open house for every passing troll. In addition responding to every troll just encourages them.

In regard to XCurrency the coin i can life with it but do feel the sticks are a different story. eg: Investor vs Customer


According to URSAY they will refund your XC if you want it back for the tor-sticks. If it were amazon you'd be pissed - but these are not
established products and not massively expensive so a delay while they regroup seems reasonable. On the other hand a statement from them
would be in line with the PR that these were supposed to be consumer products. 
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Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
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holyprofit
on 18/11/2014, 11:14:47 UTC
XC da  SHIT ,  dan da shit 

Corrected that for you
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Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
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holyprofit
on 18/11/2014, 11:05:13 UTC
Agreed with the above.

For the record, I hope the team goes silent until they they drop what will shake the crypto world.

The amount of fud and all around "demanding to be heard bs" just messes with people and obfuscates what is really happening.  

He has a stout resume.  If he says bulletproof then I believe it (I really don't care if you want to challenge why I believe it; I'm in too many debates right now).  

If XC had delivered 'bulletproof' five months ago than I wouldn't be postin here right now...because it is a hell of a claim and should require time.

Let the man work.  Get over yourself and take a walk in the real world...it's cathartic.

My two cents.  

Which is why - as a lot of us keep saying - resuming the daily updates would be a good idea. No need to respond to any of the bs or fud if they do that. Just a single professional summary of what is happening right now should be enough, and is better than trying to deal with every piece of crap individually.
If you go that way daily is way to much. they had no time for it before, don't think they have time for it now


No problem - weekly would be perfect. I would be very happy to see a weekly summary post in fact - everything else in this thread except legitimate conversation about XC gets deleted. The weekly post can be reposted if it gets lost too far back - the effort to do this would be minimal - modulo how many troll posts have to be deleted. But I don't see why this thread has to be either closed completely or open house for every passing troll. In addition responding to every troll just encourages them.
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Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
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holyprofit
on 18/11/2014, 08:08:09 UTC
Agreed with the above.

For the record, I hope the team goes silent until they they drop what will shake the crypto world.

The amount of fud and all around "demanding to be heard bs" just messes with people and obfuscates what is really happening. 

He has a stout resume.  If he says bulletproof then I believe it (I really don't care if you want to challenge why I believe it; I'm in too many debates right now). 

If XC had delivered 'bulletproof' five months ago than I wouldn't be postin here right now...because it is a hell of a claim and should require time.

Let the man work.  Get over yourself and take a walk in the real world...it's cathartic.

My two cents. 

Which is why - as a lot of us keep saying - resuming the daily updates would be a good idea. No need to respond to any of the bs or fud if they do that. Just a single professional summary of what is happening right now should be enough, and is better than trying to deal with every piece of crap individually.
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Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
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holyprofit
on 18/11/2014, 01:15:31 UTC
I strongly suggest that Arlyn brings back the DAILY UPDATES, it would be much appreciated by the community and myself if we could keep up-to-date with all the new developments in XC. The FUD hasn't helped XC one bit, but I think we need to restore some order and go back to the way things used to be. Lets start with bringing back the daily updates

Agreed - I have no idea why you (Arlyn) spend so much time battling every point with every troll (and/or responding to the community's every concern question and worry) when you could simply answer them all with daily updates. You say you waste so much time on here - why not do updates and then you can relax.
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Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
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holyprofit
on 18/11/2014, 00:17:27 UTC

I would be putting myself in a superior position if I were to continue to support the expectation that the XC team will respond to the community's every question, concern, and worry.

Why? Because doing so supports and enables a dependency upon me to provide information and support.

But I'm not some infallible/impartial/ideal source of information. ... etc


Isn't it your role to provide information and support?

Yes it is.

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Are you saying that you are no longer prepared to provide information and support?!

No.

What I've been doing all along - especially with my reply to Reebokass - is providing information.

It's just not the information the community expects or necessarily wants (though I know some will be relieved to see me trying to dismantle the prior mode of interaction between me and the community, because it caused so much undue strain and emotion.)

In my post above, I'm supplying higher-order information pertaining to the way we interact. It's information that's as relevant to XC as any other information.


As always, I will continue to provide information of the normal sort regarding releases, news, etc.

And for the time being, I will also provide higher-order information about how the community and I are interacting when it seems to me to be pertinent.




OK - great! Then I think you just have to be consistent - i.e. collectively swinging from "there's great news - and tor-sticks - coming any minute" to "stop bitching about progress" is a recipe for disaster. Somewhere in the middle would be nice. You just have to be precise and say - due to the fudstorm the timeline for tor-sticks - or whatever - is now xxx. In my opinion a weekly update would be a good idea to have something to point at - it would deflect 90% of the questions you get and prevent you getting into debates on dielactical materialism and the like.
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Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
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holyprofit
on 17/11/2014, 23:38:49 UTC

I would be putting myself in a superior position if I were to continue to support the expectation that the XC team will respond to the community's every question, concern, and worry.

Why? Because doing so supports and enables a dependency upon me to provide information and support.

But I'm not some infallible/impartial/ideal source of information. ... etc


Isn't it your role to provide information and support? Are you saying that you are no longer prepared to provide information and support?!
You are actually our only source of information.

(Answer the above question in the affirmative if you wish to see confidence in this project dive to zero)
 
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Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos
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holyprofit
on 17/11/2014, 22:50:40 UTC
why its very inactive and still no news about TOR STICK shipping? its delaying more that week and no answer

Maybe we just wanted to see if you'd post another mopey, negative remark.


If this how you now choose to reply to the community perhaps we need a new PR representative. Your style has become abrasive to say the least, and after all the revelations of the past few weeks, people are naturally concerned about XC's future.

Just do your job, and leave the indignant, defensive attitude at home.

Actually I was also a bit disappointed to read that reply. The big difference in XC was always the
incredibly professional attitude shown by the team whatever - their replies even to fudders were always respectful.
Can we have a return to that please.  
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Re: [ANN][Blocknet] The internet of blockchains | XBridge | true cross-chain P2P
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holyprofit
on 16/11/2014, 17:23:03 UTC
Concern about the price is a concern about this apparent lack of confidence. Therefore if the team is not concerned about a drop in price then they are not concerned about a lack of confidence in their abilities to deliver.

This, to me, is overly simple. We are concerned about keeping the public in the loop about progress and about the project as a whole. We are also interested in the market-related health of the project, and are aware of its relation to the overall health of the project.

However what we are not concerned about is the sort of day-by-day "concerns" that some people here seem to be prone to (like "hmm... the Github repo hasn't been updated, therefore something must be wrong!"). If this sort of thing has an effect on the market then, well, we just can't do anything about it, because no matter how healthy a project and no matter how hard we work, there will always be room for small and speculative doubts. Selling over trifles or idle speculation is just short-sighted, and we simply don't have the time and energy to address every "concern". I encourage investors to become suitably hardened against this.

Work is ongoing; we're forming a foundation; we're well-funded to achieve what we've set out to achieve; we'll report our developments very soon; read my post history if you want more details.



Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying that I have doubts about your ability to deliver, or that you yourselves are not concerned about the market related health of the project - including the price. But I do not hold with the previous comments that everything is rosy if it drops to 1 sat. We can all see that just 6btc gets us back to 25 on bittrex so I myself do not believe it is a mass exodus or signals huge lack of confidence, but it is not good advertising for the moment.
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Re: [ANN][Blocknet] The internet of blockchains | XBridge | true cross-chain P2P
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holyprofit
on 16/11/2014, 12:14:47 UTC
It seems to me that it's irrational to want the price of BLOCK to be higher.

BLOCK isn't a normal coin - no one is pushing for it to be accepted by merchants, no one is promoting BLOCK for charity, etc. - it's simply a receipt for supporting the ITO, and its only value is in how many NHZ assets you can exchange it for when Blocknet is a reality.

The price of BLOCK doesn't have any bearing on the project either, unless I'm mistaken; the devs are getting paid from the BTC or other supported altcoins when people paid for BLOCK in the ITO. They aren't getting paid in BLOCK, right? After the ITO, the price of BLOCK could go down to 1 satoshi with no detriment to their development efforts.

Thus, it really seems like we should be hoping for the price of BLOCK to be as low as possible, in order to scoop it up cheaply. The only reason to want the price of BLOCK to be higher is if you want to sell it for profit before Blocknet (which is valid, but I would think most holders are interested in getting paid by Blocknet's NHZ assets; otherwise why not just invest in a normal coin?).

I'm writing this because I don't understand the desire to have the devs put up a buy wall for BLOCK. If the price of BLOCK goes back to ITO price or higher, it doesn't affect the project's funding at all, but it makes it more expensive to acquire BLOCK for users, correct? Let me know if I'm missing anything.

By this argument you would be happy if the price drops to 1 sat so whatever block you are holding would be effectively worthless despite the fact that you paid twice as much for them last week as you would today. Last time I looked, the price of something was supposed to reflect the confidence the market has that you will see that return someday. Concern about the price is a concern about this apparent lack of confidence. Therefore if the team is not concerned about a drop in price then they are not concerned about a lack of confidence in their abilities to deliver. I only hold about 2000 blocks so it's not a big deal to me. But personally I would be worried. And also I would be worried about the fact that any future ITO by them (e.g. the one proposed for XC itself) would almost certainly be unsuccessful. These are all just facts, not really subject to opinion.
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Re: [ANN][Blocknet] The internet of blockchains / XBridge / true cross-chain P2P
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on 06/11/2014, 12:04:10 UTC
No, this entails nothing. Just the fact that you're not being professional about this anymore
And for real? You are coming with this answer? I can't believe this.

I'm qawzsx, I was banned for defending this project right and left, I have at least 80 BTC in XC, but I don't like those facts:



Well qawzsx, explain why you think I'm being "unprofessional" and I'll be happy to listen.

My personal take is that this is a community that cares about the Blocknet, and that it's not only admissible, but appropriate, to talk about how best to enable the Blocknet to launch.



Well, in no way telling me on the forum to outbid bittrex is called professional, at least in my book. I don't wanna know what's really happening in your mind if that leaked out as a post.
Maybe it's just me, so I'm gonna rectify my state.



From my point of view that sounded very bad (for me), and made me to reconsider my position into this project as an "investor".

Thank you


Dude - my respect goes out to you. I've seen all your posts and you've been a complete hero defending against the fud-mare. Anyway I wouldn't get too bothered by that post. When a +- 20 BTC buy/sell could make the difference between this going ahead and not, I think it's OK to cheerlead a bit. (I'm also mostly in XC with a bit of block but as this will run off the back of XC I don't see getting this to fly as a dilution.)