Don't know, but yes in his offer it says that it is 3 months warranty, I don't know how is that possible, because in my country it is 2 years warranty by the law.

It is main distributor for Gainward and Palit nVidia to my country. But I will ask him about that cards.

Lets say I can get them maybe for 270$, and my supplier is a big company, not some shady guy. Because I want to buy 18 1070 cards, but they are 480$. So I would like to know is the risk of not selling them for gaming worth 800+$ per rig.

I don't see a way, except classic money raising just trough cryptos. Only way I see it is something like this possible is if she was offering Xcoin in return for other coins. And promise that with Xcoin you will be able to buy something in future, and only with that coin. She needs to give a value to that coin, something investors will believe and see profit from beside nice filling for helping USA become better place. My 2cents

My supplier is offering me Palit GeForce GT P106-100 6144M GDDR5 192bit X (M/C:4000/1506) for price around 250e. You say it is not worth that money? Is there any benchmark of this card compered to 1060 or 1070?

Thanks for answers. Well I was deciding btw AMD 580 and Nvidia 1070, and I think this one has better resale value if something went wrong. And you can mine more algos with this one so more coins. That is key factor I'm with nVidia this one. And AMD prices is just ridiculous, like 30-40% more then 3 months ago.

I want to build 1070 rig, I have few choices:

Palit GeForce GTX 1070 Dual 8GB - 480e
Palit GeForce GTX 1070 Jetstream 8GB - 530e
Gainward GeForce GTX 1070 8GB - 480e
Gainward GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Phoenix - 530e

What do you think? Is the 480e cards good enough for ETH/Zcash mining, and is there big difference between these 4 cards? Can I dual mine with these cards?

This is the price I can get them. That is nice. My MSI 470 are going around 27-28 MH/s. I hoped that 580 will do around 31-33 MH/s, is that possible?

Hello people of all cryptocurrencies!

I can order some cards and I got list. Can you tell me what cards are best for mining in next 12 months. They are all AMD 570 or 580 chips, with 4 or 8 GB of memory. For now I'm mining ETH and I know memory is not that important, but maybe for future it is better to put little more money for some other coin.

Thanks in advance for your good advises! And here is the list:

Sapphire:
SAPPHIRE PULSE RADEON RX 570 ITX 4G GDDR5 - 234e
SAPPHIRE PULSE RADEON RX 570 4G GDDR5 DUAL - 246e
SAPPHIRE NITRO+ RADEON RX 570 4G GDDR5 DUAL - 264e
SAPPHIRE NITRO+ RADEON RX 570 8G GDDR5 DUAL - 300e
SAPPHIRE PULSE RADEON RX 580 4G GDDR5 DUAL - 270e
SAPPHIRE NITRO+ RADEON RX 580 4G GDDR5 DUAL - 295e
SAPPHIRE PULSE RADEON RX 580 8G GDDR5 DUAL - 310e
SAPPHIRE NITRO+ RADEON RX 580 8G GDDR5 DUAL - 330e
XFX RS Radeon RX 570 4GB XXX Ed. OC 1264  Mhz GDDR5 Dual Fan 3X DP HDMI DVI - 270e
XFX GTS Radeon RX 580 4GB XXX Ed. OC 1366 Mhz GDDR5 Dynamic 22 Blade fan  - 300e
XFX GTS Radeon RX 580 8GB XXX Ed. OC 1366 Mhz GDDR5 Dynamic 22 Blade fan  - 335e
XFX GTS Radeon RX 580 8GB Black Ed. OC 1405 Mhz GDDR5 Dynamic 22 Blade fan  - 350e
XFX GTR-S Radeon RX 580 8GB Black Limited Ed. OC 1430 Mhz GDDR5 - 370e

Do you know where can I buy risers in Europe, even better southern Europe? And also does @Finksy send his PSU to this part of Europe and how much will that be? Or is there someone similar to him who sells similar PSU's?

Thanks man, this man knows what he is talking about. Great video, and I see lots of good ones on his profile.

Where did you find those cards, I searched everywhere, there is no sign of RX570 or 580 

This is my first post, and I'm really into starting my own mining cave. I'm in process of learning and this thread was all in one. Thanks to everyone that comment and help the community.

ETH is 90$!!!! Why i didn't start this earlier