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Re: US Debt Has Exploded
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iternetuser
on 15/02/2016, 19:39:27 UTC
All new money = debt. All debt comes with interest. Therefore there is not enough money to pay back the debt.

Money supply must be constantly increased to pay back old debt. Money supply can only be increased by going further into debt.

why do people keep repeating this myth? Its a zero sum game...
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Re: America's new debt ceiling - $19,600,000,000,000
by
iternetuser
on 13/02/2016, 17:19:59 UTC
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most of this blog post ist nonsense.



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What are you going to do, stop paying the military, social security?

Every year you are spending a lot more than you are earning the reversal of that will be painfull and the public would spit their dummys out.

if the US wants to pay for a  broad social security and a bigger military then the following 20 countries combined then they have to increase taxes... or cut spending to a level where they dont generate more debt.
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Re: America's new debt ceiling - $19,600,000,000,000
by
iternetuser
on 13/02/2016, 16:49:37 UTC
I just don't understand why they have so much debt, it is impossible to pay back there is not enough money in the world to repay all the debts!
It is only so the banks can make money, The people should rise against this.
The time has come our country's took over the production of money again, how is it possible that someone else controls that..

the US makes around 6-7 trillion $ tax revenue each year (including state,local and federal taxes). So its possible to pay back these loans with less spending and higher taxes.
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Re: America's new debt ceiling - $19,600,000,000,000
by
iternetuser
on 31/12/2015, 12:04:05 UTC
The debt of the United States is a direct result of that of the US federal reserve. The fed prints every new dollar and loans it to the US Treasury at interest. With that system in place, it is impossible for the US to pay off their debt, unless they abolish the fed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0

"The Biggest Scam In The History Of Mankind (Documentary) - Hidden Secrets of Money"

I guess many of you will know this video. I think it fits perfect in this thread as it shows how ridicolous this debt system is.

u guys are aware that the "profit" a central bank generates gets passed on to the government treasury?

I think the interest generated by the Fed will be paid to the US government treasury. So the Fed lend money to the US government for free.

how it works: central bank lending money to a commercial bank for X interest -> commercial bank lends it to governments/private people for X+Y interest -> the government gets X - costs the central bank needs to keep running, reserve assets etc. but pays X+Y for their debt.

this "every dollar issued by the fed generates interest debt which never can be payed back" is a myth

kinda sad to see that the bitcoin community is build ontop of such conspiracy theory nonsense spreaded who have all their knowlage about economics from either bolgs or youtube videos.



Will be interesting now in Switzerlend.Referendum to end money creation  by commercial banks,All  in Central Bank hands.It is more  and more stronger movement in Europe,to limit banks to be only financial services

USA is diffrent.FED is in fact group of biggest private  banks

"The Federal Reserve System's structure is composed of the twelve regional Federal Reserve Banks located in major cities throughout the nation, numerous privately owned U.S. member banks (...). The U.S. Government receives all the system's annual profits, after a statutory dividend of 6% on member banks' capital investment is paid, and an account surplus is maintained. In 2010, the Federal Reserve made a profit of $82 billion and transferred $79 billion to the U.S. Treasury."

the "ownership" of the Reserve Banks by the commercial banks is symbolic; they do not exercise the proprietary control associated with the concept of ownership nor share, beyond the statutory dividend, in Reserve Bank "profits."
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Re: America's new debt ceiling - $19,600,000,000,000
by
iternetuser
on 31/12/2015, 03:21:00 UTC
The debt of the United States is a direct result of that of the US federal reserve. The fed prints every new dollar and loans it to the US Treasury at interest. With that system in place, it is impossible for the US to pay off their debt, unless they abolish the fed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0

"The Biggest Scam In The History Of Mankind (Documentary) - Hidden Secrets of Money"

I guess many of you will know this video. I think it fits perfect in this thread as it shows how ridicolous this debt system is.

u guys are aware that the "profit" a central bank generates gets passed on to the government treasury?

I think the interest generated by the Fed will be paid to the US government treasury. So the Fed lend money to the US government for free.

how it works: central bank lending money to a commercial bank for X interest -> commercial bank lends it to governments/private people for X+Y interest -> the government gets X - costs the central bank needs to keep running, reserve assets etc. but pays X+Y for their debt.

this "every dollar issued by the fed generates interest debt which never can be payed back" is a myth

kinda sad to see that the bitcoin community is build ontop of such conspiracy theory nonsense spreaded who have all their knowlage about economics from either bolgs or youtube videos.
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Re: America's new debt ceiling - $19,600,000,000,000
by
iternetuser
on 28/12/2015, 02:26:17 UTC
The debt of the United States is a direct result of that of the US federal reserve. The fed prints every new dollar and loans it to the US Treasury at interest. With that system in place, it is impossible for the US to pay off their debt, unless they abolish the fed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0

"The Biggest Scam In The History Of Mankind (Documentary) - Hidden Secrets of Money"

I guess many of you will know this video. I think it fits perfect in this thread as it shows how ridicolous this debt system is.

u guys are aware that the "profit" a central bank generates gets passed on to the government treasury?
Well at this point I would say there isn't any profit being generated by the central banks, and most of the government treasury is just additional debt...

Is profit necessary anymore, for governments at least? Most governments choose to just create debt anyways.

its not rly profit since a central bank cant make profit (but most ppl agreed to just call it profit)
99 billion got send to the U.S treasury in 2014 for example
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Re: America's new debt ceiling - $19,600,000,000,000
by
iternetuser
on 27/12/2015, 20:51:01 UTC
The debt of the United States is a direct result of that of the US federal reserve. The fed prints every new dollar and loans it to the US Treasury at interest. With that system in place, it is impossible for the US to pay off their debt, unless they abolish the fed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0

"The Biggest Scam In The History Of Mankind (Documentary) - Hidden Secrets of Money"

I guess many of you will know this video. I think it fits perfect in this thread as it shows how ridicolous this debt system is.

u guys are aware that the "profit" a central bank generates gets passed on to the government treasury?