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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
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itscrazy
on 12/08/2016, 21:18:13 UTC
This is a very interesting article about Dash

http://dashmasternode.org/?p=1164

i concur, very good job. who wrote it?
Hi MasterMined, that would be me. Glad you enjoyed it. I have been thinking about the long term possibilities for some time now and thought I may as well share some of my thoughts with the community Smiley
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
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itscrazy
on 30/07/2016, 05:04:49 UTC
Jeez, did you guys stop doing this for the passion and now are just inventing jobs for yourselves.  Undecided
4400$ to write a wiki Huh

Why not have a competition in the community he who writes the best wiki wins 100 dash or something like that  Smiley

There could be a proposal for a bounty fund that can fund these kinds of competitions. lets say 100 dash per month goes to the fund and everytime we need some technical writing or anything that our community members can (and have the passion)to do we could make a competition for the set bounty.  

Edit: Did make a PreProposal over at dash.org
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/bounty-fund.9943/

I understand where you're coming from - $4k isn't small change for many community members i'm sure - but I think we need to put things into perspective a little... Dash has the market cap of a fairly substantial business, currently at $62million, it's by no means the largest in crypto(!) but by all common business metrics a business with a market cap of $62million would have a similar level of turnover, say $60m, and an average of over 700 full time employees supporting the business. Dash in contrast has a fraction of the number of employees, however, it does have a constant (and growing) source of revenue in the form of the blockchain funding of around $800,000 a year. So what does $800k a year buy Dash currently? https://www.dash.org/team/

i think that a team like that is worth that alone, never mind everything else that's getting funded! Like the dash.org domain, adoption into the Lamassu ATM and the Dash N' Drink instant soda machine, along with funding many public events.

And if they continue to grow this project and add value to the project then this $850,000 a year funding could very quickly grow to $2m-$4m...

So I ask this question... Can we expect to further develop and grow the Dash product/solution/business/ecosystem by relying on the goodwill and passion of the community alone? Furthermore, should we as 'owners' (of the currency) expect passionate, dedicated and talented individuals to provide free/cheap labour to the detriment of themselves and benefit of us 'owners' without themselves being rewarded fairly?

The bottom line is that we're not some small community interest group anymore, we're in business! And businesses need talented individuals to continue to grow and prosper. We're not going to retain and acquire more talented individuals by offering one-off bounties on really important stuff like documenting business processes and the whole Dash ecosystem. It's really easy to try and break down the tasks that need to be undertaken and commoditize them, but the reality is that a lot of the work that is required to deliver on the Dash key milestones is highly skilled and specialist.  

If Dash did reach a market cap of around $500million then the annual funding budget will be $9million... Does $4,400 still sound like a waste of money to properly document the whole evolution platform?

Personally, I think it's good value.  Smiley

Edit: exhibit B https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/front-end-developers.9942/

Walter  
Well said Walter. I think this proposal is extremely important as just the other day I had Charles Hoskinson ask me to link him to Dash's whitepaper as he wanted to explore its governance system. It wasn't the best look when I had to explain that our white paper is outdated and that you will just have to watch these videos and read this little documentation which is not apart of our official whitepaper.

Funding things like this allows more developers to come in and explore Dash's technical aspects. More developers mean more innovation and more usability for our currency.

I think that this price is extremely reasonable for such an important task.
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
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itscrazy
on 29/07/2016, 05:31:36 UTC
Hey nzminer, I recognise you from the megacoin threads. At the moment a masternode returns about 1.94 Dash every 6-8 days. You have to obviously pay for your hosting costs though.

I use www.node40.com to host mine and I think that they charge around 2 Dash per month for your hosting fees. So with them you would earn approximately 6.3 Dash per month ($59 U.S).
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
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itscrazy
on 23/07/2016, 09:38:52 UTC
Just wanted to say we are working hard on some very exciting projects more information will be coming out soon along with updates on the already known projects.
Thanks Daniel, you are all doing an amazing job, cannot wait to hear more!
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
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on 23/07/2016, 01:59:36 UTC
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
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itscrazy
on 17/07/2016, 02:59:30 UTC
The price is holding up very well considering the amount of sell pressure that is being generated by development funding etc. We all like to keep hold of our Dash but people gotta eat(!) so I'd expect a fair amount of Dash a month in sell supply just to fund various USD commitments. The fact that the price is remaining steady (and rising) suggests that for every Dash being spent on development we are seeing an increase in value to the project.

Who knows where the price will be over the next year, but one things for sure... Every ounce of development will keep adding value to the project... so over a 1-5 year period I'd expect Dash to keep steadily gaining in value.

Walter


What ! ? Eddufield is a beggar too ? Shocked

Has the fleecing of the noobs really become that easy ?
You are making an intuitive leap here that is inaccurate. Dash is a self-funding DAO, and a portion of the block rewards are allocated to fund budget proposals. Among these proposals are funding to hire developers, establish bounties, and issue deliverable-based contracts. The development happening now is directed toward Evolution, integrations, etc. This is what the above comment was referencing. Exactly zero Dash of the development proposals have been paid to Mr. Duffield, and he certainly isn't begging to anyone.

I guess it really is ! haha..

How is taxing the miners any different ? Beggars and government wannabes both always have their hands out waiting for more.

Its cryptofiat dumbasses like you that have helped the early adopters fuck the crypto movement. WTG !
A reallocation of the block reward is not the same thing as a tax. Economic forces ensure there is ALWAYS an equilibrium level of hash power that will be reached given a certain reward level. If the reward going to miners is 45% of the block reward, a certain amount of hashpower will result that covers the miners costs plus some market-defined level of expected return on capital. If the allocation to miners were increased to say 90% instead of 45% (just picking numbers to make the math easy), mining would become incredibly profitable at the current 45%-equilibrium hashrate and you would see a resulting rush of new investment in ASICs and buildings to house them and electricity to run them... in the end you would end up at a new equilibrium hash rate that was roughly 2x the current level, resulting in some tiny amount of incremental transactional security (e.g., from 99.999% secure to 99.9995% secure after 3 confirmations or something). EDIT: BUT, the expected economic return to the miners would be the same either way... at 90% you simply get twice as much hashrate as you would at 45%. It's simply a question of "how much hashrate should the network buy in order to ensure the desired level of transactional security?"

The beauty of this system is that the network can allocate resources towards activities other than mining... activities that provide more benefit than some insignificant amount of transactional security. For example, funding a code review, testers, or security-related bounties could improve security even more than more hash rate. Or more development resources might find some new way to secure transactions altogether, like InstantSend does. Or funding masternodes might strengthen the number of full nodes on the network and ensures they are professionally hosted. And these are all things that can improve security.

Now start thinking about all the other things that can be funded like marketing, research, business partnerships, integrations, work tools, development software, public relations... the list goes on. All of which provide benefits. Bitcoin's model (and virtually all coins) in which 100% of every block is directed toward only the need of transactional security (and worse, toward only one of many potential approaches to achieving that) is nothing short of stupidity. Even Satoshi recognized the needs for incentivized nodes, for example.

An analogy is imagine a world in which Visa (the first and largest credit card network for several years now) took all of its revenue and directed it ALL at transactional security. They bought the best firewalls, hired security experts, built their own private internet, hired armed guards to surround their datacenter, and generally went NUTS with anything security related. Sure, the network was really slow, it got saturated with transactions during peak periods, it wasn't very user friendly, and they didn't offer support. In order to pay a merchant, consumers had to learn how to use a long cryptographic "public key" that looked like a bunch of gibberish to your average Joe. But the network generally worked better than checks and was accepted at quite a few places and was SUPER secure. Meanwhile, they had no marketing, no PR, no business development, no sales force, no new services being developed, no customer service, and no legal department. Instead, they set up the Visa Foundation to handle that and asked the merchants and payment processors and end users to donate toward those things or perhaps do it on their behalf. Of course, the foundation was usually broke or close to it, so unfortunately, it wasn't that effective.

Meanwhile, a few years after Visa got started, a rival to Visa emerged called Mastercard. Mastercard started out pretty small, wasn't accepted anywhere and didn't have very many cardholders. But it did something Visa wasn't set up to do... it funded ALL its needs. They had a sales department, marketing department, legal department, customer service call center (once they had enough users), etc. They started rolling out new services like speedy transactions, increased transaction capacity, developed entirely new ways to secure transactions, made their product super user friendly, added a rewards program, and (gasp!) actually HELPED merchants get set up on the platform.

Naysayers of Mastercard pointed out how "insecure" their network was. They laughed that it wasn't accepted anywhere. They ridiculed that no one used it for much. They pointed out how puny their marketing budget was. Many, dubbed "Visa-maximalists" even scoffed at the idea that there could be more than one credit card payment network... after all, surely the confusion of TWO payment networks would only confuse customers and slow the adoption of this amazing new technology! And the idea that they want to PAY their developers directly and NOT through a donation-driven foundation? What are those guys over at Mastercard smoking anyways?!?!

Which network do you think survives in this scenario long term? Which one will be forced to adapt or will inevitably fail? In hindsight, it will be blindingly obvious which network should have won all along and how stupid Visa's approach was. When you put the scenario we live in RIGHT NOW in terms of two credit card networks, it suddenly becomes obvious what the better approach for a payment network is, and which project will win and which will fail (or be forced into adaptation). But for some reason, people have their blinders on simply because the underlying technology is different. Why!?!? I don't get how the digital currency world has not woken up to this fact yet.

Give us a few years, then come back and tell us whether we were the "dumbasses".
Amazing write up Ryan, well said!
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
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itscrazy
on 16/07/2016, 03:35:33 UTC
I completely agree with you here toknormal. Daniel is a huge part of the success of Dash, without him who knows where we would be.

Thanks Daniel!
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Re: Time to end the XMR vs DASH battle: Confessions of a Dash Enthusiast
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itscrazy
on 04/07/2016, 23:50:46 UTC
I look forward to Dash's peer-reviewed white papers that contain no mathematics.
And I look forward to Monero's leaders standing up and publicly denouncing the wretched behaviour of their band of trolls that serve to make all of crypto look bad, not to mention hold Monero back. Alas, that will never happen either.

We need to end this. I'm definitely not the only one who feels this way. I hope you are in agreement on that point.

I will absolutely not denounce anyone. They are intelligent individuals who are welcome to say whatever they want. If I am to denounce them because they are critical of some other project, where does that end? What if some community members decide they don't like sushi, which I love - should I denounce them too? What if they have different moral beliefs, or religious beliefs, or they don't love dogs as much as I do?

Your call for "Monero's leaders" (such as they exist) to denounce members of the community for this is a disgusting attack on free speech.
It's kinda not free speech when you pay them to troll others.
Nice try though.
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Re: Time to end the XMR vs DASH battle: Confessions of a Dash Enthusiast
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itscrazy
on 04/07/2016, 23:43:52 UTC
I look forward to Dash's peer-reviewed white papers that contain no mathematics.
And I look forward to Monero's leaders standing up and publicly denouncing the wretched behaviour of their band of trolls that serve to make all of crypto look bad, not to mention hold Monero back. Alas, that will never happen either.

We need to end this. I'm definitely not the only one who feels this way. I hope you are in agreement on that point.
Yup, Dash and Monero could be strong together rather than weak and apart. I for one would never look to invest in Monero purely because of their communities behaviour. It is not a good look when the leader of Monero doesn't try to stop the incredible amount of trolling committed by his community.
Call off the troops Fluffy and instead pay them to help push Monero forward. Attacking others just loses you all credibility and gets you no where.
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Re: Time to end the XMR vs DASH battle: Confessions of a Dash Enthusiast
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itscrazy
on 04/07/2016, 23:18:00 UTC
I think both are innovative and useful in their own ways. I agree that intra-cryptocurrency trolling is counterproductive to the ideal end game.
Agree with you, I have nothing against Monero, other than their trolls that constantly hang on other coins forums trolling other communities.
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Re: [ANN] VOXELS (VOX) | The Official Coin of Virtual Reality and Voxelus Platform
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itscrazy
on 16/06/2016, 03:24:16 UTC
Hi Jim, do you think we could incorporate the shifty button from Shapeshift into our marketplace? Will help with the UX, as it is a little annoying if you don't have voxel on you at the time of wanting to purchase something in the market place and you don't have anything in your uphold account either. Having this will allow new users that may have other crypto assets to quickly obtain voxels.
Here is the link to the shifty button https://info.shapeshift.io/tools/shifty-button

Thanks


Hi thanks for the question, I checked Shapeshift.io and Voxels is available when generating the code for your site. Just use the pull down to select Voxels. I think it's a great idea to accept Voxels on your site.
Hi Jim, think there has been a misunderstanding. I should have said your marketplace. I went to purchase an asset off of the Voxelus marketplace the other day and was surprised that there was no shifty button that would allow me to top up my account instantly with bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency. So question is could you guys please implement this?
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Re: [ANN] VOXELS (VOX) | The Official Coin of Virtual Reality and Voxelus Platform
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itscrazy
on 15/06/2016, 00:33:29 UTC
Hi Jim, do you think we could incorporate the shifty button from Shapeshift into our marketplace? Will help with the UX, as it is a little annoying if you don't have voxel on you at the time of wanting to purchase something in the market place and you don't have anything in your uphold account either. Having this will allow new users that may have other crypto assets to quickly obtain voxels.
Here is the link to the shifty button https://info.shapeshift.io/tools/shifty-button

Thanks
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Re: [ANN] VOXELS (VOX) | The Official Coin of Virtual Reality and Voxelus Platform
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itscrazy
on 10/06/2016, 05:14:21 UTC
Great to see that the forums are now finally usable with those trolls out of here. Keep up the good work Jim and team Smiley
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Re: [ANN] VOXELS (VOX) | The Official Coin of Virtual Reality and Voxelus Platform
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itscrazy
on 03/06/2016, 06:30:33 UTC
For any of those who missed it, Voxels has been listed on Shapeshift.io
Nice work guys. Great to see Voxel on shapeshift. We slowly expand Smiley
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
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itscrazy
on 26/05/2016, 02:13:05 UTC
Hi team, finally can unveil the project that I have been working on! www.spenddash.com

Listings are free to all businesses that accept Dash so if you have a service or know anyone with a service then get them in there.

The reason I went forward with the project is because I didn’t feel like there was much incentive for a business to accept Dash because how would any dash user ever find them? I know Tungfa is keeping a merchant list together but that is hidden away in the Dash Talk forums. This is out there is the open. Now we have one more selling point when trying to convince a business to accept Dash, they get a free listing in a nice and easy to use business directory Smiley

Hope you all like it.
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Re: [ANN] VOXELS (VOX) | The Official Coin of Virtual Reality and Voxelus Platform
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itscrazy
on 19/05/2016, 20:48:47 UTC
Long time Dash holder here. Just wanted to chime in and say that this trolling is exactly what we experienced and are still experiencing with Dash. I personally think you guys are doing a great job, this is one of the most interesting projects on the market right now. I for one don't usually divest but couldn't resist picking up some vox. Unfortunately I can't spend much time helping out with the project due to my commitment to Dash but I will be here voting with my money and mouth Smiley
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
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itscrazy
on 12/05/2016, 21:07:24 UTC
New Updated Version of "What is Dash" video is out (incl all Subtitles) ,
please update your embedded or shared links
 Wink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0oNO3mbBE8
This new version is soo much better! I have updated all links on www.dashmasternode.org Smiley
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
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itscrazy
on 10/05/2016, 22:33:03 UTC
New article published by www.dashmasternode.org, would be awesome if you guys could retweet it Smiley Here's the article http://dashmasternode.org/alternative-option-investing-slock-its-dao
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency
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itscrazy
on 21/04/2016, 21:17:45 UTC
Hi everyone, just thought I would let you all know that Shakepay are wanting beta testers for their Dash Debit card. Head over to dashtalk and private message Jean to get your invite. Here is the thread https://dashtalk.org/threads/shake-labs-inc-are-integrating-dash.8648/#post-91595
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX
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itscrazy
on 23/03/2016, 01:44:31 UTC
Great project but Masternode entrance barrier is too high and might be problem in future.
Hi Blockchain.Ventures,

Check out this article http://dashmasternode.org/the-future-of-finance. It provides the solution to the problem that you just noted. Splawik has the problem covered for us right now but soon many more people will resolve this problem.