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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
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jajy123
on 09/03/2018, 20:57:10 UTC
I am also a bit disappointed by aml bitcoin team but today I received my tokens and I am more serene and happy. I hope the team will continue to work to bring this project up. What they do is complicated, so it takes time
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
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jajy123
on 30/11/2017, 10:13:39 UTC
With news like this https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/us-senate-judiciary-to-hold-panel-hearing-on-aml-laws-today-focusing-on-digital-currencies/ the case for AML Bitcoin becomes increasingly relevant.

My biggest frustration with this project, is the slow adoption rate. Again, I HIGHLY suggest that the team consider doing some bounty campaigns to get the word out.

The first phase AML token sale has been going for nearly two months - which is how long most crowd-sales/ICOs take to complete. At this rate it will be at least April/May, if not June/July before it's done. Given the rising price of Ethereum and BTC, the early adopters are losing money, compared to those buying in now. Instead of 300 AML to 1 ETH, we could be getting 450+. If it's going to drag on like this, you should either match the current market rate for all contributors (after all, you'll still be cashing out at market value), or offer a refund.

I'd love to see this project do well, but the slow pace is getting extremely annoying.

I agree with this seems to be a constructive criticism!

AMLBitcoin, What do you say about recent allegations of problems and fraud by many hitbtc users recently seen on reddit and other forums? I ask this, because within fifteen days amltoken will be traded by them.
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
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jajy123
on 21/11/2017, 09:16:07 UTC
Selling anti money laundering Bitcoins, AMLBitcoin to people by initial coin offering? I'm here on official capacity to beg for bounties, translations of dead or alive languages. please I have no home of my own, at least share 0.1% from the money you are about to receive with me, I don't want to cause any inconvenience by begging here. terrorists could buy the total supply of AMLBitcoin in this ICO and cause more terror when AMLBTC hits $1000. I'm going to suggest people to avoid helping terrorists by staying away from AMLBTC.

LOL Funny. Especially since the terrorists will have to get a certified digital identity done before they exchange the tokens to the coin. He must be a really stupid terrorist. LOL

He might as well just turn himself in to the cops. LOL.



Ahahahahah Grin
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
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jajy123
on 15/11/2017, 19:35:47 UTC
If this was truly holding to government policy, wound't it fall under the SEC ruling? I've invested, but I'm concerned about it falling into a very grey area. I'm really hoping it's legit, as I'd rather not have thrown my money away, but we'll just have to wait and see at this point.

AML devs, any words to help clarify what's going on?

AML BitCoin is not like the hundreds if ICO's passing by and leaving stage. You will see that soon enough. I think many people and funds will be extremely happy to have secured a decent stash of Tokens right at this stage at $1.

NAC is registered with American Banking Association and AML BitCoin will be 100% compliant to pay with for merchants, businesses and even accessible for institutional money. Last week we have seen CME Group creating a door for institutional money to invest in Bitcoin and see what happened. Those fundmanagers are waiting for AML/KYC solutions so they can follow financial ethics and comply with laws. AML BitCoin intends to be a financial gateway that makes it easier for institutional money to transact with cryptocurrencies. And they will be able to do that for minimal transaction fee's.   



Now I do not have to be happy to have bought for $ 1. Now I have to see how many tokens have been sold to today. But above all, I still have to see tokens purchased on 10/06/17 (start day Ico) by using tokenlot to be migrated to my tokensale.amltoken.com account and later in my portfolio. But today I do not see this, but I see continuous changes. So, I believe in this project demonstrated to you by important and immediate purchasing but your way of working to do my confidence in hard tests.

I received a confirmation email for my tokens purchases from xxx@amlbitcoin.com from "user AMLBitcoin". This makes me very happy for the professionalism of the amlbitcoin team. My tokenlot migration process has not yet been completed. It will be my concern to inform the forum when I see my tokens on the new platform. I thank bitcointalk forum's and thank the amlbitcoin staff.

Now I see my tokens in my account tokensale.amltoken.com. The tokenlot migration process for my case is closed. I would particularly like to thank the user "AmlBitcoin" for his guidance and explanations. Now I look up date 12/15/2017 to send the tokens to my amltoken wallet.
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
by
jajy123
on 14/11/2017, 18:13:46 UTC
If this was truly holding to government policy, wound't it fall under the SEC ruling? I've invested, but I'm concerned about it falling into a very grey area. I'm really hoping it's legit, as I'd rather not have thrown my money away, but we'll just have to wait and see at this point.

AML devs, any words to help clarify what's going on?

AML BitCoin is not like the hundreds if ICO's passing by and leaving stage. You will see that soon enough. I think many people and funds will be extremely happy to have secured a decent stash of Tokens right at this stage at $1.

NAC is registered with American Banking Association and AML BitCoin will be 100% compliant to pay with for merchants, businesses and even accessible for institutional money. Last week we have seen CME Group creating a door for institutional money to invest in Bitcoin and see what happened. Those fundmanagers are waiting for AML/KYC solutions so they can follow financial ethics and comply with laws. AML BitCoin intends to be a financial gateway that makes it easier for institutional money to transact with cryptocurrencies. And they will be able to do that for minimal transaction fee's.   



Now I do not have to be happy to have bought for $ 1. Now I have to see how many tokens have been sold to today. But above all, I still have to see tokens purchased on 10/06/17 (start day Ico) by using tokenlot to be migrated to my tokensale.amltoken.com account and later in my portfolio. But today I do not see this, but I see continuous changes. So, I believe in this project demonstrated to you by important and immediate purchasing but your way of working to do my confidence in hard tests.

I received a confirmation email for my tokens purchases from xxx@amlbitcoin.com from "user AMLBitcoin". This makes me very happy for the professionalism of the amlbitcoin team. My tokenlot migration process has not yet been completed. It will be my concern to inform the forum when I see my tokens on the new platform. I thank bitcointalk forum's and thank the amlbitcoin staff.
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
by
jajy123
on 09/11/2017, 16:10:38 UTC
DOES THIS MEAN YOU ARE GOING TO ABANDON PHASE 2 AND 3?.

I do not think this will happen by looking at how the situation is evolving. I bought tokens very soon through "tokenlot" I'm still waiting for my tokens to be visible at least having on the page of ico tokensale.amltoken.com. "AMLBitcoin user" is following me but the times seem too long. All this is making me lose much confidence about this project and I'm sorry because my investment has been very expensive. Also we can not see how many tokens have been sold to date and this is not a good thing. I am also very scared about the possibility that this project will evolve like the old atencoin or abandoned and resumed later, this means locked money for a long time as someone who has bought atencoin's old project long ago. I hope I'm wrong, but today the situation lets me think about this.
Yes Jay when I researched this project I was impressed by the credentials of team posted on website and talk of patents and partnerships with people with influence in government,I jumped at the chance to buy early in ICO for cheaper price and now it seems they extend ICO period for a bigger cash grab with no regard for early investors who instead of been rewarded for early participation have infact been penalised since if we waited could have nearly doubled our tokens,first they say we will give you tokens after 15 Nov then tell us after all parts of ICO have been completed then extended first part of ICO adding more time to our investment and screwing over early investors,nothing worse than putting your trust and belief in something only to be taken for a fool.

Stealth I do not discuss the timing and the modifications of team projects, this can happen in an ambitious project like this, in fact I and you as many others we quickly purchased tokens. Perhaps the reason for change is the sale of tokens is slow or other routine issues. I would like to see the migration of my tokens from tokenlot to tokensale now and to date it has not yet been done. And then I would like to see how many tokens have been sold to today as I'm an investor and want transparency.
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
by
jajy123
on 08/11/2017, 23:07:28 UTC
If this was truly holding to government policy, wound't it fall under the SEC ruling? I've invested, but I'm concerned about it falling into a very grey area. I'm really hoping it's legit, as I'd rather not have thrown my money away, but we'll just have to wait and see at this point.

AML devs, any words to help clarify what's going on?

AML BitCoin is not like the hundreds if ICO's passing by and leaving stage. You will see that soon enough. I think many people and funds will be extremely happy to have secured a decent stash of Tokens right at this stage at $1.

NAC is registered with American Banking Association and AML BitCoin will be 100% compliant to pay with for merchants, businesses and even accessible for institutional money. Last week we have seen CME Group creating a door for institutional money to invest in Bitcoin and see what happened. Those fundmanagers are waiting for AML/KYC solutions so they can follow financial ethics and comply with laws. AML BitCoin intends to be a financial gateway that makes it easier for institutional money to transact with cryptocurrencies. And they will be able to do that for minimal transaction fee's.   



Now I do not have to be happy to have bought for $ 1. Now I have to see how many tokens have been sold to today. But above all, I still have to see tokens purchased on 10/06/17 (start day Ico) by using tokenlot to be migrated to my tokensale.amltoken.com account and later in my portfolio. But today I do not see this, but I see continuous changes. So, I believe in this project demonstrated to you by important and immediate purchasing but your way of working to do my confidence in hard tests.
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
by
jajy123
on 07/11/2017, 19:53:46 UTC
DOES THIS MEAN YOU ARE GOING TO ABANDON PHASE 2 AND 3?.

I do not think this will happen by looking at how the situation is evolving. I bought tokens very soon through "tokenlot" I'm still waiting for my tokens to be visible at least having on the page of ico tokensale.amltoken.com. "AMLBitcoin user" is following me but the times seem too long. All this is making me lose much confidence about this project and I'm sorry because my investment has been very expensive. Also we can not see how many tokens have been sold to date and this is not a good thing. I am also very scared about the possibility that this project will evolve like the old atencoin or abandoned and resumed later, this means locked money for a long time as someone who has bought atencoin's old project long ago. I hope I'm wrong, but today the situation lets me think about this.
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
by
jajy123
on 03/11/2017, 16:57:44 UTC
IS THE AFFLIATE COMMISSIONS GOING TO BE PAID IN AML TOKENS OR FIAT?.

AML Tokens. They will automatically be credited to your account when there is commision.

We try to make Tokens available for trading at the end of Phase 1, starting Nov. 15th.
I am somewhat confused by your last post since as you can see above you posted that you will try to make tokens available for trading starting Nov 15. Now you are saying tokens will not be issued until after the different stages of ICO are finished,what is actually going on here posting conflicting information to backers of ICO is just confusing us and I for one am wondering what’s going on. I was already confused when the possibility of receiving and trading my tokens before ICO ended but seems by last post things have changed again.
after the problems you had with tokenlot and my big purchases through tokenlot. After I have communicated my situation to tokens@amlbitcoin.com as requested by you. After talking privately here on the forum with amlbitcoin, today I have not yet received a response about my situation. My big concern is that purchases through tokenlot at the start of the ico will be lost and this situation is not absolutely healthy for us all. You say that the tokens will be distributed at the end of the first phase then you say they will be distributed at the end of the three phases, unprofessional but it makes sense, which makes no sense that I have not yet received confirmation of my situation sent to tokens@amlbitcoin.com . I expect a reply with attachment my email from tokens@amlbitcoin.com because the situation is very worrying I want certainties. Then you send the tokens when you think it is appropriate to do so!
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
by
jajy123
on 31/10/2017, 12:29:09 UTC

I think these are important questions given that people are currently risking money and will eventually be sharing PII in order to use the platform.

I've kept your questions open because it wasn't for me to answer. But I can imagine the team does not like to speak about what's being done behind the scenes. Also in the best
interest of coin- and stakeholders.


all this is very nice, but I do not understand why I did not have any response from anyone in this forum and I did not have a response from tokens@amlbitcoin.com. I sent mail with all the details and address to send the tokens eight days ago... I just ask for a confirmation that you have received everything, not a very complicated thing for a team like yours

post #278 and #287

I have replied you and also sent you a DM. Thing is we can not ask for personal details and then how can we link your forum post to your email? So all I can do is pass on the message with your profilename. Everyone will get an email/newsletter when the audit is completed and when the coin is ready to distribute.

I responded to your private message, hope you can fix it soon. it will be my concern to update the situation here in public messages about what will happen. thank you so much
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
by
jajy123
on 30/10/2017, 18:36:37 UTC
Cryptocurrencies Versus the Central Banks

"Up until now, banks and governments have been apprehensive about the use of cryptocurrencies as they do not meet American banking standards, the directives of The Patriot Act and other regulatory documents, in other words they are not AML compliant," says NAC Foundation CEO Marcus Andrade. "We developed AML Bitcoin to address these concerns and to offer the market a fully lawful alternative. Right now, several American banks are testing the use of our product for interbank transfers. We believe that our solution will save millions in exchange fees."

https://www.fxstreet.com/education/cryptocurrencies-versus-the-central-banks-201710260928

all this is very nice, but I do not understand why I did not have any response from anyone in this forum and I did not have a response from tokens@amlbitcoin.com. I sent mail with all the details and address to send the tokens eight days ago... I just ask for a confirmation that you have received everything, not a very complicated thing for a team like yours

post #278 and #287
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
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jajy123
on 25/10/2017, 17:13:54 UTC

My purchases have been confirmed but I received the mail too so I replied to tokens@amlbitcoin.com I wrote all the details of my case and my address to send my tokens. I would like to receive a confirmation email from tokens@amlbitcoin.com to find out if it has received my mail and taken into consideration. I hope this can be done. Thanks so much.

You will get a reply within 24-72 hours after sending email.

80 hours later I did not receive reply from tokens@amlbitcoin.com we need at least one reply to the email sent. We need to trust that tokens comes soon in our wallets
 
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
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jajy123
on 23/10/2017, 18:12:46 UTC

My purchases have been confirmed but I received the mail too so I replied to tokens@amlbitcoin.com I wrote all the details of my case and my address to send my tokens. I would like to receive a confirmation email from tokens@amlbitcoin.com to find out if it has received my mail and taken into consideration. I hope this can be done. Thanks so much.

You will get a reply within 24-72 hours after sending email.

thanks for your answers  Smiley
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
by
jajy123
on 23/10/2017, 13:27:39 UTC
Since the newsletter is discussed I will post it here so people can understand from their own minds and read with us. But in my opinion we did make a mistake by stating
" ... and your email was flagged as ... "  since this newsletter likely went out to everyone on our list (I will ask if this is so).
It's also possible that someone started the process but started over again for example when the page got expired.


"It's been a busy week among the AML BitCoin team, and we felt it important to share some important news to everyone on our newsletter.

We started an audit and your email was flagged as starting the contribution process but was never completed on TokenLot.com’s Payment Platform.  If you were unable to complete your purchase feel free to contact us for assistance at info@amlbitcoin.com.

If you did a purchase and did not receive an Order Confirmation Email from TokenLot, please email our audit department at audit@amlbitcoin.com. Make sure to provide them with the email address you registered with along with the wallet address that you sent the funds to.

If you did a purchase and have received your Order Confirmation Email, please email Tokens@Amlbitcoin.com your Aml Token Wallet address so that they can confirm the Token Address is the same one you registered with.

Once the audit is completed, we plan on distributing tokens shortly thereafter."

The original is here: http://mailchi.mp/062f9adb18c8/important-aml-token-distribution-update-please-read?e=


Stealth8368: I believe you are in the last category since you did receive the confirmation emails already and you should not be worried. We simply do a re-audit for maximum security. Please use the email address that best describes the status of your order(s). Like DroidR17A you can use Tokens@Amlbitcoin.com.

My purchases have been confirmed but I received the mail too so I replied to tokens@amlbitcoin.com I wrote all the details of my case and my address to send my tokens. I would like to receive a confirmation email from tokens@amlbitcoin.com to find out if it has received my mail and taken into consideration. I hope this can be done. Thanks so much.
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
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jajy123
on 19/10/2017, 15:20:05 UTC

for me you failed to answer jays question! are we at risk of losing our investment or will AML Bitcoin team still issue our tokens if the hack effected us and funds are missing?

If you made a purchase of AML Tokens then we will deliver them. If there is an issue then we will investigate this case by case.

I'm glad Raidei is happy to be involved, despite the startup problem and he won't be sorry. We have so many developments going on and multiple teams are working fulltime to make AML BitCoin and the Tokensale a success. 

Thank you for the info 😊
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
by
jajy123
on 19/10/2017, 10:30:21 UTC

So do not you work anymore with tokenlot in case of problems who will respond?

Quote "So do not you work anymore with tokenlot in case of problems who will respond?"

At this stage, it is really difficult for us to answer this question. Above all, we will choose the best available method to allow our supporters to buy and obtain AML Tokens in a secure manner.

in practice you are saying that I'm risking losing everything because you are entrusted with an unsecured broker ?! Do you have any idea how much I invested in aml bitcoin ?! I sincerely hope to receive my tokens as soon as possible, otherwise it will not be good for you and for tokenlot!

Sorry but you are both talking from a different perspective of what the words mean.

Both AML BitCoin Team and Tokenlot will respond and deal with all the orders that were placed. We work with Tokenlot to solve the issue that was encountered with Raidei.

Scitoshi's comment is saying that he does not know yet if or when Tokenlot will be reactivated, and if future issues relate to their service or that of ICOBox.
for me you failed to answer jays question! are we at risk of losing our investment or will AML Bitcoin team still issue our tokens if the hack effected us and funds are missing?

ok, I understand that I misunderstood. I believe so much in the Aml Bitcoin and in the Nac project if it was not this I did not realize important investment. As long as the tokens arrive in our wallets I want to be sure that Nac responds to the actions of some chosen broker who could lose our funds. Otherwise I lose confidence in Nac!
 

 
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
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jajy123
on 19/10/2017, 09:13:25 UTC
Can we have an update on the scale of Tokenlot hack and are funds stolen from ICO lost or recovered,also I’m assuming this only effected tokens bought with ether? There was 20,000 ether in that account, was those funds from AML Bitcoin ICO or from other Tokenlot ICO? Will AML Bitcoin investors be effected by this hack?

Right now it is too early to speculate what happened to those few orders with Tokenlot.  While they are investigating this further, we are no longer using their ICO payment platform and are currently using ICObox technology. All AML Tokens are secured and all buyers will see them shortly.

I sincerely hope that who has bought the token (like me) and has received the confirmation email from amlbitcoin@tokenlot.com including id transaction has no problems. Get this point I would not have any surprises and would like tokenlot to send tokens to our wallets as soon as possible! So do not you work anymore with tokenlot in case of problems who will respond?

Quote "So do not you work anymore with tokenlot in case of problems who will respond?"

At this stage, it is really difficult for us to answer this question. Above all, we will choose the best available method to allow our supporters to buy and obtain AML Tokens in a secure manner.

in practice you are saying that I'm risking losing everything because you are entrusted with an unsecured broker ?! Do you have any idea how much I invested in aml bitcoin ?! I sincerely hope to receive my tokens as soon as possible, otherwise it will not be good for you and for tokenlot!
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
by
jajy123
on 19/10/2017, 08:03:59 UTC
Can we have an update on the scale of Tokenlot hack and are funds stolen from ICO lost or recovered,also I’m assuming this only effected tokens bought with ether? There was 20,000 ether in that account, was those funds from AML Bitcoin ICO or from other Tokenlot ICO? Will AML Bitcoin investors be effected by this hack?

Right now it is too early to speculate what happened to those few orders with Tokenlot.  While they are investigating this further, we are no longer using their ICO payment platform and are currently using ICObox technology. All AML Tokens are secured and all buyers will see them shortly.

I sincerely hope that who has bought the token (like me) and has received the confirmation email from amlbitcoin@tokenlot.com including id transaction has no problems. Get this point I would not have any surprises and would like tokenlot to send tokens to our wallets as soon as possible! So do not you work anymore with tokenlot in case of problems who will respond?
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
by
jajy123
on 17/10/2017, 17:35:10 UTC
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I am so sick of people having problems in crypto and calling scam when ever there is a problem,you are advising everyone not to participate in this ICO because u had an issue so it’s a scam lol come on mate talk like this could ruin a project,there are lots of people here that have had a great ICO experience here and in your cause there doing everything possible to sort out your issue,the more successful this ICO is the better for those that have invested me included so your attempt to stop people taking part will not only harm the project but investors also,AML Bitcoin team have been involved in crypto for years with Atencoin which has evolved into AML Bitcoin and there integrity has been proven over the years,I understand u are upset regarding missing payment but calling scam and warning others off before giving them a chance to find out what’s happened is very unfair.

I followed the exact instructions using the links from the front page of this thread as provided by the developers of the project. Obviously, I thought the project was worth something because i was willing to take a risk and invest in it.

If I follow the instructions provided in order to make a purchase and then my money is "lost" how is that my fault? I am giving them an opportunity to resolve my issue and if they do resolve it I will remove my claims that this project is a scam. Until that point, I feel it is my responsibility to warn other people that they are likely to lose their money if they give it to this project.

I am not new to cryptos, I have made hundreds of transactions without issue. The problem is not with me.




you should not warn anyone until your problem is sure it will not be resolved. This is my opinion, and for me it means giving respect to who has invested here. But we are free so do what you like
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Re: [ANN] AML BitCoin Token Sale is now LIVE !
by
jajy123
on 17/10/2017, 15:07:16 UTC
I understand for business choices you do not want to know how many tokens have been sold. Will I ask you on the basis of the sale today, will it be time to finish in the 28 days remaining the sale of the first phase of tokens?