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Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform
"Please don't buy any LISK in this forum. The owner can reset the passphrases by simply open a ticket on our support center and provide us with his email address and exchange ID. We check the data and if all is good, we will reset the passphrases."
Someone offered to sell me LISK. Does the above (from the OP) mean if I buy them he can reset the passphrase and then I won't have them? Is there a way to buy LISK from someone yet?
Someone offered to sell me LISK. Does the above (from the OP) mean if I buy them he can reset the passphrase and then I won't have them? Is there a way to buy LISK from someone yet?
escrow + get lisk after launch?
If buyer gives escrow BTC and seller gives escrow passphrases, we run into 2 issues:
1) How do we know the seller won't claim he lost his passphrases and get new ones?
...well if this were to happen, then obviously buyer would not be able to redeem LISK at launch--thus telling escrow there is a problem, and so the escrow won't release BTC to seller. Only issue would be if all 3 parties agreed to some time frame after launch where the buyer had the opportunity to report that something has gone wrong, and then the buyer doesn't report in time and so escrow releases funds to seller who now also has LISK.
But that would be buyer's fault for not keeping up with the time-frame.
So the passphrase issue isn't unsolvable, just don't let escrow release funds until buyer confirms they have Lisk upon launch.
2) how does escrow confirm a problem that buyer reports? What if buyer redeems lisk with the passphrase, but reports a problem? How would the escrow know whether or not the seller actually got a new passphrase or whether the buyer is lieing and actually was able to get the lisk?
A seller could of course sell the whole login account (email and all), then escrow merely logs in themselves to check everything is good. Then buyer logs in and changes passwords, then escrow releases btc to seller. but I doubt many people would want to do that and sell the whole login/email
No exchanging passphrases, seller sends lisk to buyers address after mainnet launch, same way IOTA folks are doing it
Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform
"Please don't buy any LISK in this forum. The owner can reset the passphrases by simply open a ticket on our support center and provide us with his email address and exchange ID. We check the data and if all is good, we will reset the passphrases."
Someone offered to sell me LISK. Does the above (from the OP) mean if I buy them he can reset the passphrase and then I won't have them? Is there a way to buy LISK from someone yet?
Someone offered to sell me LISK. Does the above (from the OP) mean if I buy them he can reset the passphrase and then I won't have them? Is there a way to buy LISK from someone yet?
escrow + get lisk after launch?
All lisk people and especially people trying to sell lisk please read:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430961.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1430961.0
I have been inactive for quite some time, posted a few posts recently ( <24h )
because i wanted to sell some Lisk with escrow,
this is why I belive this has to do with me being a Lisk holder.
I just got an PM from this user:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=558363
His PM was:
which is a link to a fake bitcointalk site, the L is actually an uppercase i.
It directs to a fake login page.
ATTENTION ALL LISK HOLDERS, BE CAREFULL!!!
because i wanted to sell some Lisk with escrow,
this is why I belive this has to do with me being a Lisk holder.
I just got an PM from this user:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=558363
His PM was:
Quote
Hi joschua011
I've replied to you
h t t p s : / / bitcointalk . o r g / i n d e x . p h p ? t o p i c = 7 7 4 9 2 9 . 2 6 4 0
I've replied to you
h t t p s : / / bitcointalk . o r g / i n d e x . p h p ? t o p i c = 7 7 4 9 2 9 . 2 6 4 0
which is a link to a fake bitcointalk site, the L is actually an uppercase i.
It directs to a fake login page.
ATTENTION ALL LISK HOLDERS, BE CAREFULL!!!
Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform
I would be interrested in selling LISK for btc, with escrow only.
following process:
1.) send me offer via pm
2.) we agree on price / escrow
3.) Buyer sends btc to escrow
4.) When Mainnet launches, i send LISK to buyers address
5.) I get btc from escrow, everyone is happy.
following process:
1.) send me offer via pm
2.) we agree on price / escrow
3.) Buyer sends btc to escrow
4.) When Mainnet launches, i send LISK to buyers address
5.) I get btc from escrow, everyone is happy.
And what if lisk go high and u don't send the Lisk?
Who will be happy then??
That u offer is a win/win situation
If I dont send then buyer gets his money back from escrow, and buyer may give me nagtive trust.
I can see your concerns and i cant prove them wrong, but for what it's worth i intennd to keep my promises,
I see this as a hedging strategy. If price is above deal price, i still have some other LISK left.
for me this is a good strategy for mitigating risk.
good poker playes might be familiar with a term called game theory optimal,
this is a bit like this.
nobody is going to take this deal since there is a higher than normal chance that someone will get screwed over. Most people will wait the extra 3 weeks.
well, fair enough, excercise due diligence, offer still standing tough.
Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform
I would be interrested in selling LISK for btc, with escrow only.
following process:
1.) send me offer via pm
2.) we agree on price / escrow
3.) Buyer sends btc to escrow
4.) When Mainnet launches, i send LISK to buyers address
5.) I get btc from escrow, everyone is happy.
following process:
1.) send me offer via pm
2.) we agree on price / escrow
3.) Buyer sends btc to escrow
4.) When Mainnet launches, i send LISK to buyers address
5.) I get btc from escrow, everyone is happy.
And what if lisk go high and u don't send the Lisk?
Who will be happy then??
That u offer is a win/win situation
If I dont send then buyer gets his money back from escrow, and buyer may give me nagtive trust.
I can see your concerns and i cant prove them wrong, but for what it's worth i intennd to keep my promises,
I see this as a hedging strategy. If price is above deal price, i still have some other LISK left.
for me this is a good strategy for mitigating risk.
good poker playes might be familiar with a term called game theory optimal,
this is a bit like this.
Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform
I would be interrested in selling LISK for btc, with escrow only.
following process:
1.) send me offer via pm
2.) we agree on price / escrow
3.) Buyer sends btc to escrow
4.) When Mainnet launches, i send LISK to buyers address
5.) I get btc from escrow, everyone is happy.
following process:
1.) send me offer via pm
2.) we agree on price / escrow
3.) Buyer sends btc to escrow
4.) When Mainnet launches, i send LISK to buyers address
5.) I get btc from escrow, everyone is happy.
Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform
Don't want to bug you, but am hoping you can do some of us a favor... basically get in touch with the exchanges and see what is up with their withdrawal issues?
I had XCR on Bter (which I eventually had to sell, because they couldn't move it)... as they had an empty hot wallet (and it may still be empty for all I know... they left it empty for days and days).
And now I have XCR on Polo stuck in pending mode ... others have had this same problem, so it's not just me.
I had XCR on Bter (which I eventually had to sell, because they couldn't move it)... as they had an empty hot wallet (and it may still be empty for all I know... they left it empty for days and days).
And now I have XCR on Polo stuck in pending mode ... others have had this same problem, so it's not just me.
When ICO started i had XCR on Polo, same story, wanted to withdraw, stuck in pendig for like 5h, asked nicely in trollbox and withdraw went through soon after that.
Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform
Can I ask, what does the "LISK" mean ? Is that an acronym for something?
Actually, ISK stands for Interstellar Kredit. No idea about "L".
eve fan?
Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform
im asking about 3rd party escrow wtf is wrong with you?
and I am just telling you where to find that info - arguably, in a somewhat unrespectful way because this has been asked before and can be found on the very same page
where you asked your question + in the first post of this thread + the lisk blog, and it is somewhat annoying when people cant take a minute to inform themselves.
Sorry, its late.
Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform
no 3rd party escrow?
Dude.
Read.
few posts up.
Each religion has there own perspective. It's the us who see common notion as general to all.
Not to generalize but there other Christians too that also perceive their values but they themselves don't understand values.
Not to generalize but there other Christians too that also perceive their values but they themselves don't understand values.
Even the religions of atheism and science theory have their own unscientific perspectives.
Woho this is gonna be fun.
Care to explain why you consider atheism a religion?
Just in case there is any doubt about Islam:
lets just remember that encouragement of murder, rape and terror is not exclusive to Islam:
http://www.evilbible.com/
if I have a chance to buy somewhere these tokens and what is the price for one ? thank you
I can sell you 100,000 IOTAS for 1BTC and so on. Price 1000 sats per IOTA. Maximum buy 2,000,000 IOTAS.
If interested PM.
1BTC in Phase 3 of the Crowdfund ( no bonus ) would get you over 700,000 iota.
just saying.
Iotatoken, is there a chance that we could get a google docs spreadsheet of accounts, amount in BTC contributed, amout contributed weighted by early-bird bonuses and what the expected IOTA payout will be.
I know I'll see what my payout will be when it arrives, but it would nice to see the schedule for all accounts so that the community has time to validate and ask questions before dispersements are made.
I know I'll see what my payout will be when it arrives, but it would nice to see the schedule for all accounts so that the community has time to validate and ask questions before dispersements are made.
quote!
The list is not ready yet because confirming amounts will be added to purchase amounts, for some participants this will increase number of iotas significantly.
Thanks for your answer!
I wanted to get a rough Idea of what my share is so i made this:
http://en.file-upload.net/download-11146679/iota_table.ods.html
by no means accurate, dosnt include confirmation amounts and some accounts appear multiple times because the sent multiple times( maybe even in different phases).
It should be accurate enough to give you an idea of general distribution and roughly how big your share is.
Dont take this for real, whatever the IOTA team says is true.
# of Investors: 299
average Investment: 3,1135869852
average Investment: 3,1135869852
Are you sure you got it right? There are 370 transactions according to the address - https://blockchain.info/address/1G8hh3bHMMhZSATwisBVbGFSYBKK3Suib8
Yes i am sure.
some investors sent multiple transactions from the same address.
I count unique addresses and not transactions.
Lists and numbers and colors and stuff:
JINN/BTC Ratio
List of BTC investors:
http://paste.ubuntu.com/14136909/
Script to get that list
http://paste.ubuntu.com/14137032/
I put like 2 min work into this, not meant to be good coding,
do not criticise
Distribution ( BTC investors only )
ever piece represents one address, size proprtional to amount invested
BTC Investors
# of Investors: 299
average Investment: 3,1135869852
Dont have NXT installed, to lazy to do this for JINN investors.