Of cause its better than nothing. But 1gpu and 10hours - at least 10-15% is luck difference.
Luck is not a factor in these tests, all 3 miners are on the same pool mining identical blocks their luck is the exact same .
Are you serious? You can run 3 instances of the same miner on these gpus and easily get 10% difference in shares.
This is randomness of the Algo, not luck of hitting blocks. This randomness *should* even out over time. This is wha I am doing many rounds and will only make conclusions based on a large dataset. If one miner is always 10%+ ahead of another, will you really argue this is luck and not a real advantage of hat miner?
If it were just just luck/stochasticity, wouldnt you expect not to see the same winner each time?
Also, share number is completely meaningless. It can be manipulated by changing share difficulty in command line.
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Re: miner battle: z-enemy 1.16 vs t-rex 0.5.7 vs suprminer spmodgit-7 [x16r]
bitcointalk needs more posts like this. Scientific and to the point. If possible would you be able to include power usage? I know some miners outperform others but sometimes its at a significant wattage increase.
excellent question, i'll look into this
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Re: miner battle: z-enemy 1.16 vs t-rex 0.5.7 vs suprminer spmodgit-7 [x16r]
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kerzNOberz
on 17/08/2018, 17:50:31 UTC
t-rex hung in ROUND 2, unclear why, but I won't post a result for t-rex for this round (and I'll add a 4th round to get adequate data). z-enemy was in the lead (by ~1%) before the crash.
this is what the client looked like on the machine:
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Re: miner battle: z-enemy 1.16 vs t-rex 0.5.7 vs suprminer spmodgit-7 [x16r]
miner battle: z-enemy 1.16 vs t-rex 0.5.7 vs spmodgit-7 [x16r / ravencoin]
I've been wanting to compare performance between miners on the X16R algorithm for some time. This will be a test done in the vein of JackIt's tests in the past, where I ask which miner puts more coins in my wallet?
Setup: For this first test, I'm using a 3 GPU rig with Zotac 1080 Ti Minis running Windows 10 x64. I started an instance of each miner at the same time (using 1 GPU each) running on the same pool (Ravenminer) and the same machine. The miners will run for ~6 hours, I'll stop them simultaneously, and we'll see how many coins are in the 2 wallets. I will likely run this test 2-3 times to ensure that the results are consistent.
Miners: Z-enemy 1.16 x64, CUDA 9.2, STOCK intensity (thread here) vs. T-rex 0.5.7 , CUDA 9.2 , STOCK intensity (thread here) vs. spmodgit7 (suprminer), STOCK intensity (github here) . z-enemy and t-rex have 1% dev fee, spmod has no dev fee. Running auto (server set) difficulty on both miners. I'll switch which of the 3 GPUs each miner uses for each round to account for any variations in hardware.
The big takeaway from this experiment is that both z-enemy and trex are dramatically faster than spmod (suprminer) at the default intensities, even with the 1% developer fees. It sounds like spmod may be faster with OC'd memory and a static difficulty, so I may test that eventually. For now, I would reccomend both z-enemy and t-rex over spmod, unless you stand firm on only using open source software.
If we averaged the coin gains I would rank below, my estimation being that z-enemy is 3-5% faster than t-rex with the default settings:
Here, I plan on testing various t-rex intensities to find the optimal intensity for t-rex (and I will do the same for z-enemy) and then to eventually compare those optimal intensities head to head.
I stopped the test a little early because a new version of t-rex was released (0.6.1). It seems higher than default intensities are fastest for t-rex. I will likely revisit this with the new version, but currently it seems 24 intensity is the fastest on my machine.
Results: Experiment #4: t-rex 0.6.1 vs z-enemy 1.16 [optimal intensities]
ROUND #1: 1440 minutes
Going to let this one run 24 hours per round. From my previous tests intensity 24 is the fastest on my machine for t-rex and 23 intensity for z-enemy. the z-enemy internal tests show intensity 20 is the fastest, so i'll compare that as well
z-enemy is clearly the winner here, the higher intensity doesn't seem to change much. going to run one final 24 hour run and then i'll finalize z-enemy as the winner.
1. z-enemy 1.17 is the fastest x16r miner in my tests. While a recent entrant into the x16r mining field, t-rex, was an impressive foe, z-enemy consistently won out. The latest version of z-enemy, 1.17, is faster than the previous version, 1.16, by a small amount. It's worth upgrading if you're running 1.16 or earlier.
2. intensity matter and is unique to each miner. While z-enemy appears to run fastest on the default intensity, 20, t-rex performance improves with raised intensity. In my tests, the optimal intensity for t-rex was ~22.
3. open source x16r miners have a ways to go. Even with the 1% dev fees, both z-enemy and t-rex were signifncantly faster (15%-30% faster) than spmodgit. Apparently spmodgit can improve in performance with increased memory speed, but I didnt get a chance to test performance under those conditions.
Dude, this is two different miners and they need different intensity --i params for optimal working! It looks like --i 22 is optimum for t-rex but it isn't for z-enemy. Z-enemy need -i 19/20 param it's optimum for that miner.
Nah, Ive optimized these in the past on my system and z enemy performs better at 21.5/22 intensity. I can test them again at different intensities (or their standard intensities). This is a test of the intensities that run the best on my machine.
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Re: Head to Head :: z-enemy 1.16 (x64) vs. t-rex 0.5.7 :: X16R Ravencoin
Remove d=15. Its to slow for 2x1080Ti. And next round run without -i. On default intencity.
I'm not running static difficulty (see my post). I will probably test intensity at a later time.
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Re: Head to Head :: z-enemy 1.16 (x64) vs. t-rex 0.5.7 :: X16R Ravencoin
by
kerzNOberz
on 16/08/2018, 02:16:07 UTC
ROUND #1: ~11 hours
z-enemy 1.16 : 38.63 RVN: pool link t-rex 0.5.7 : 42.50 RVN (+10.0%) : pool link***** WINNER ROUND #1 *******
t-rex takes round #1 by a solid 10% in earnings. could be due to the variability in the X16R algorithm, so we'll need a few more rounds before we declare t-rex the winner.
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Re: Head to Head: z-enemy 1.16 (x64) vs t-rex 0.5.7 :: x16r Ravencoin
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kerzNOberz
on 16/08/2018, 02:10:22 UTC
ROUND #1 complete. I will post results here soon. On to ROUND #2 , I switched which set of 2 GPUs is used for each miner.
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Re: Head to Head: z-enemy 1.16 (x64) vs t-rex 0.5.7 :: x16r Ravencoin
Head to Head test of Z-enemy 1.16 Vs t-rex 0.5.7 (X16R Ravencoin)
I've been wanting to compare performance between z-enemy and t-rex on the X16R algorithm for some time. This will be a test done in the vein of JackIt's tests in the past, where I ask which miner puts more coins in my wallet?
Setup: For this first test, I'm using a 4 GPU rig with Zotac 1080 Ti Minis running Windows 10 x64. I started an instance of each miner at the same time (using 2 GPUs each) running on the same pool (Ravenminer) and the same machine. The miners will run for ~12 hours (started around 8AM PST 8/15), I'll stop them simultaneously, and we'll see how many coins are in the 2 wallets. I will likely run this test 2-3 times to ensure that the results are consistent.
Miners: Z-enemy 1.16 x64, CUDA 9.2, intensity 22 (thread here) vs. T-rex 0.5.7 , CUDA 9.2 , intensity 22 (thread here) . Both miners have a 1% dev fee. Running auto (server set) difficulty on both miners, it appears to stabilize in the 60-75 range. For the first test Z-enemy will use GPU0&1 and t-rex will use GPU2&3. For the second round, I'll switch which GPUs each software uses to control for variations in hardware & PCIe slot.
Results:
ROUND #1: 650 minutes
z-enemy 1.16 : 38.63 RVN: pool link t-rex 0.5.7 : 42.50 RVN (+10.0%) : pool link***** WINNER ******* (GPU2&3)
ROUND #2: 750 minutes
z-enemy 1.16 : 109.63 RVN (+7.3%): pool link***** WINNER ******* (GPU2&3) t-rex 0.5.7 : 102.16RVN : pool link
Round #3: 250 minutes z-enemy 1.16 : 39.79 RVN (+13.7%) : pool link***** WINNER ******* (GPU2&3) t-rex 0.5.7 : 35.98 RVN : pool link
TEST FAILED!!! GPU2&3 are winning every test (rig unbalanced). I'm going to redo the test on another rig in hopes of conclusive results.