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Re: [ANN] Elacoin | Released | Fair Elastic Scrypt Mining | No Premine
well, it warned me about the bitcoin stealer virus so im waiting for the official release, cant afford for my system to be compromised
Who in their right mind would let untested software run on a machine with anything on it. The proper way is to run it in a VM and if solo mining connect to that.
So then why coinchoose deleted Yacoin?
Maybe because they couldn't quantify it? They were basing the price on Bter.com but were calculation the profitability solely on block reward and difficulty as if the hashing was normal scrypt and not scrypt-jane.
In other words: IF a GPU could hash YACs, and IF the rate for scrypt-jane was equal to normal scrypt, then coinchoose's 400% made sense. But neither of those IFs are currently true though and even if someone eventually makes a GPU miner there is no indication that for example a 7950 which gets 600Kh/s would the same hashing scrypt-jane.
Install a different BIOS than it is supplied with and say bye bye to your warranty. Last time I tried rma'ing a card that I had flashed, Gigabyte refused warranty service.
Hm, yet they have BIOS's to download on their website. Not impressed with Gigabyte mainly because even F43 is locked to 1.09V and I reckon I could run at 900MHz (maybe more) at 1.0V but it won't let me.
@VelvetLeaf
Just downloaded all three and checked their size and SHA-1:
yacoin-qt-2013-05-08.zip (uploaded during YACoin launch) (8,956,974 bytes)
SHA-1: 19b609e227944287a2c96cfbda79c3bb7459ef5c
yacoin-qt-2013-05-09.zip (updated binary) (8,957,000 bytes)
SHA-1: b5886f224afed6a5705e080494d03f1789d3dc51
cpuminer-scrypt-jane-win32.zip (cpuminer-scrypt-jane-win32.zip)
SHA-1: 9acacfbb7c5c0861b3b2147d96c9dde35d12b0ae
I would have though it a standard thing for anyone making claims etc. to at least pin point where they got their EXE, its size and checksum. Otherwise everything is a bit hearsay.
Just downloaded all three and checked their size and SHA-1:
yacoin-qt-2013-05-08.zip (uploaded during YACoin launch) (8,956,974 bytes)
SHA-1: 19b609e227944287a2c96cfbda79c3bb7459ef5c
yacoin-qt-2013-05-09.zip (updated binary) (8,957,000 bytes)
SHA-1: b5886f224afed6a5705e080494d03f1789d3dc51
cpuminer-scrypt-jane-win32.zip (cpuminer-scrypt-jane-win32.zip)
SHA-1: 9acacfbb7c5c0861b3b2147d96c9dde35d12b0ae
I would have though it a standard thing for anyone making claims etc. to at least pin point where they got their EXE, its size and checksum. Otherwise everything is a bit hearsay.
Basically I pulled the name out of my ass. I don't even speak German, but seeing as "Speed limit coin" sort of makes sense as the name is supposed to restrict ASICs then I'll stick with it.
Ok, but then how about AAC: Anti-ASIC-Coin. Or APC: ASIC Proof Coin (which would of course just be an invitation for some chip designers to proof us wrong).
Come on man, every human being is this way. (there's a name for it) In the short run, they profit, in the long run, everybody loses. But if they don't profit now, others will take the quick buck and the original ones lose more.
It's how the world works.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons
+1. That was my first though too.
Since everyone else is hung up about the name...
German component words aren't that hard if you break them up:
Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzungencoin
Geschwindigkeits begrenzungen coin
Geschwindigkeits = speed
begrenzungen = limits
Oh of course that well known German word (not) coin, but Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzungenmünze would be even longer. Also, coin is useful since the plural would be coins whereas for Münze it is Münzen which would confuse people even more.
But anyway, back to the OP: how does being more memory intensive tie in with the Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzungen? Is the speed limit meant to refer to only the speed it can be mined at? Because to me, a speed limit would imply maybe a limit on the speed of transactions (sort of the opposite what we want from a useful coin).
German component words aren't that hard if you break them up:
Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzungencoin
Geschwindigkeits begrenzungen coin
Geschwindigkeits = speed
begrenzungen = limits
Oh of course that well known German word (not) coin, but Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzungenmünze would be even longer. Also, coin is useful since the plural would be coins whereas for Münze it is Münzen which would confuse people even more.
But anyway, back to the OP: how does being more memory intensive tie in with the Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzungen? Is the speed limit meant to refer to only the speed it can be mined at? Because to me, a speed limit would imply maybe a limit on the speed of transactions (sort of the opposite what we want from a useful coin).
If so what would be the best premium card for either bitcoin, litecoin or feathercoin? I'm trying to find the best mhash to watt ratio.
That really depends on so many factors. Take a 7950, the power consumption while mining can easily vary from 180W or less to 250W+ with the core and memory overclocked like crazy. The secret of mining is to get a good ratio. There is no point pushing a card to, for example, to 1.3V if you only get 5% more hashes vs running at 1.1V or less. Because the extra voltage could use up 20% more power.
ATM, possibly the most efficient card is actually the 7790 (GCN 1.2) but while it's great to get 300MH/s with only 60-80W, that's not a great hashrate these days. Great hash/watt though.
Ah, did notice that http://pool01-royal.coinloot.com:8300 is down. I only managed to mine 10.5 RYC with the pool but I did manage to mine 100 solo earlier but the difficulty climbed too quickly (or my luck ran out).
Managed to get YAC yesterday but nothing since around 18:00 (GMT) yesterday so without a pool it is no longer viable. But then again I don't have the fastest CPUs
Managed to get YAC yesterday but nothing since around 18:00 (GMT) yesterday so without a pool it is no longer viable. But then again I don't have the fastest CPUs
Also, any thoughts on the gigabyte windforce3 (1ghz edition and the 1.1ghz edition) and the xfx double d ghz edition? (1050 mhz)
Well, I have the Windforce 7950 GHz (GV-R795WF3-3GD). Not that impressed. The GHz BIOS was crazy (default 1.25V) but I was able to force the older F43 (fairly safe since it has dual BIOS but to use ATIWinflash the card cannot be the primary). But that still locks the voltage at 1.09V which while it is okay up to 1100MHz for me, is not ideal since for ~1000MHz I think 1.05V or even 1.00V should be possible and would save me few watts plus run cooler.
The other negative with the Winforce 7950 (unsure about the 7970) is that Gigabyte skimped and didn't equip with a good monitoring chip so no info on VRM temps, GDDR5 voltages etc. - just vcore, core temp and fan speed.
Cooler are good though and no sign of any coil whine.
I took advice and installed CHNC wallet on virtual machine. Better safe than sorry...
That might not protect you if clipboard sharing feature is active. Not sure if virtualbox does this or not.
Also VMbox has the ability to disable host to VM clipboard sharing. https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=32446
By default Virtualbox VM's have clipboard sharing disabled. I always install any new wallets etc. in a VM but then I'm a heavy VM user anyhow.
Re: 7870 saphire - getting 430mh/ash on sha-256, but only 280khs on scrypt?
Scrypt is very dependent on memory speed so the core/memery ratio really is the most important criteria. Of course the best way to find the ideal ratio is if someone has already done the work and has found posted it somewhere!
Generally, the core should be roughly 0.7 the speed of the memory. So with a core of 1000MHz that means ~1428MHz. On 7950s I've found these rations to work 1022/1244 or 1100/1500.
For experimenting with rations, I found cgminer the best since unlike when using the GUI front-end (GUIMiner - which anyway uses cgminer), you can change the GPU settings dynamically in the program without having to disconnect. So, just hit
Generally, the core should be roughly 0.7 the speed of the memory. So with a core of 1000MHz that means ~1428MHz. On 7950s I've found these rations to work 1022/1244 or 1100/1500.
For experimenting with rations, I found cgminer the best since unlike when using the GUI front-end (GUIMiner - which anyway uses cgminer), you can change the GPU settings dynamically in the program without having to disconnect. So, just hit