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Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] VapeCoin The 1st vape industry ICO!
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konstan23
on 21/10/2017, 21:09:22 UTC
Dear competitors in vaping business. It ia very pleasent for us, that your are suching about differnt successes of our company RELAKES.
1. We are new members here and a lot of peole are new here too. They ask different question and we answer. We don't pay anyone for a question. Maybe your posr is paid?
Dear whomever you are, finally someone from the company, I was tired of hired monkeys!

I can't be your competitor, as nobody knows about your company.

1. No, you are not exactly new, or the company that manages your ICO is not exactly new. They also manage quite a few other ICOs, and I guess all of them are equally scamm-ish. Here is a list of the last few "persons" commenting on your thread and, by coincidence, commenting on the same threads as everyone else in the bunch. Which is weird, considering NONE of these ICOs is even remotely close to the top crop.

And yes, my profile is new. But I don't do paid posting like the people below:

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=328019
Commented on COVESTING, LWF, CoinLoan, TOKENATOR, B2BX, Confideal, VapeCoin, PayCentos, Coinlancer.io, ALTOCAR, DataBroker, TokenStars, ESR Wallet

hunterofmoney
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1161651
Commented on B2BX, VapeCoin, CoinLoan, Confideal, TOKENATOR, ALTOCAR, DtaBroker, TokenStars, ESR Wallet

Immer
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1161822
Commented on VapeCoin, REGA, LWF, Coinlancer.io, CoinLoan, TOKENATOR, B2BX, Confideal, ALTOCAR, DataBroker, TokenStars, ATUM, ESR Wallet

gazman
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1219566
Commented on B2BX, VapeCoin, Confideal,

AurihanGB
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=236731
Commented on COVESTING, LWF, Coinlancer.io, TOKENATOR, B2BX, VapeCoin, Confideal, ALTOCAR, DataBroker, ATUM, TokenStars, ESR Wallet

coin63
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1161694
Commented on TOKENATOR, B2BX, VapeCoin, Confideal, CoinLoan, ALTOCAR, DataBroker, ESR Wallet, ALTOCAR (Hahaha, he even asked one of the ICOs if they are in Russia or Belarus. As if he doesn't know better than anyone)

defender77
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1161731
Commented on COVESTING, LWF, CoinLoan, B2BX, VapeCoin, TOKENATOR, ALTOCAR, Confideal, TokenStars, DataBroker, ATUM, ALTOCAR

Mops
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17376
Commented on Confideal, VapeCoin, ALTOCAR, DataBroker

nicolasbit
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1162017
Commented on B2BX, VapeCoin, LWF, Confideal, Coinlancer.io, ALTOCAR, DataBroker, TokenStars, ATUM

Goofy
....I'm getting tired of this, it's the same, and there are more and more.
This is not an extensive list, it was enough to find two of these profiles, 3 is already in astronimical chances, and having 10 people interested in exactly the same spammy ICOs is ABSOLUTELY ZERO. You are using fake profiles to boost the interest in Belarussian ICOs.

2. Sure, you are answering, after all you are witing the questions in this thead except mine!

3. I won't bother, a company with the revenue of street shop for e-cigs in Europe magically found harmless substitute for nicotine which nobody managed to find for so many years, and it's harmless and they'll prove it until 2018, even if they started just an year ago.

Right...

My name is Konstantin Kostjuchenko, and I am CEO RELAKES.
You can find my profile
https://www.facebook.com/konstantin.kostjuchenko
Instagram: Konstan23
This is one of articles with me about Vape Business ( I was called as expert on this market) This news was seen more that 33 000
https://people.onliner.by/opinions/2017/03/01/mnenie-642


Our company is well known in vaping industry.
Here you can read articles about our company and products
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfgROKKQMs0
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zMkfaflLlEk
https://youtu.be/UCcz_ePMEsUy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-vXsbqwwPc
https://youtu.be/UYD4IBOAfJw
http://vapenews.ru/success/2017/09/29/pod-egidoy-relakes-belorusskie-proizvoditeli-zhidkosti-vyryvayutsya-v-top.html
http://vivalacloud.ru/2017/03/relakes-drip-line/
https://belvaping.by/reviews/obzor-obnovlennoj-zhidkosti-relakes/
https://vaperegard.ru/relakes/
http://cloud-news.ru/relakes-gordost-belarusii/
http://vivalacloud.ru/2017/03/relakes-drip-line/
http://vapenews.ru/eliquid/2017/01/16/rda-line-by-relakes---vkusnyashki-iz-belorussii.html

Also. RELAKES is our registrated brand and if you make #relakes in INSTAGRAM it would be more than 2 300 publications


Video from our production was seen more than 75 000 times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddzn5P3O8cQ&t=2s

Also you can have fun whatching this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9vPd0XPpgA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpNd7TFO470
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAGO3b0tLK0

About people you wrote.
We have more than 100 questions. Why this people are interested in my and another projects, I dont know. You can ask them

2. We are answering all questions. And yours too

3. You know, internet, blockchain technologies, came to our life very fast. If you dont beleve to out projects, why do you spend so much time talking about it.


We know, that we can realize all our plants. We have stronge, ambitions and clever team!

RELAKES is a good investing for future!
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Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] VapeCoin The 1st vape industry ICO!
by
konstan23
on 21/10/2017, 08:00:13 UTC
PROBABLY SCAM beware!
- conveniently thrown comments by new members and one or two full/seniors. Possible reason - paid campaign, plenty of these offered.
- real questions unanswered, probably because the whole thread is managed by soneone that knows nothing of e-liquids
- most questions are not even thrown in a way you'd normally ask them. Possible reason - language barrier.
- a bit of a too many "forward statements", some of which ignore laws (oh, ffs, there is a term empty promises)
- company makes less money than average ecig shop in Europe, meaning they cannot possibly present or pay the amount of real studies of their liquids, considering they are now required for every single aroma and base combination in Europe.
- In fact, they are just packaging them, not using their own aromas, so its arguable whether they are manufacturer, and the nicotine substitute claims are anecdotal at best.
- claiming it's easier to pay with their tokens is either a lie or a typical way to avoid institutions knowing about cash movements. Especially after reading it doesn't work fir shipping?
- even their packaging of 30 ml is not legal in EU, wo the promise of easy shopping is a lie.
- Claims that other major manufacturers will accept this as a payment are an absolute lie. None of them even knows this backwater company.
- Since the can't sell anything in EU, the market data and "forward looking statement" regarding the market are false.
- Probably the same for US.
- Statement that lack of nicotine (by using unknown substitute) allows some form of free trade is false in regards to EU. The respective EU directive dies not differentiate e-luquids based on lack of nicotine. Every liquid for use in ecigs is civered by it, whether it has nicotine or not.
- Promise they will be sold in "European cities" is a bit of a stretch if the cannot import the liquids or they cannot possibly fight the prices of locally manufactured or repackaged liquids or meet the same quality criteria.
-  Not to mention no one bothers with mostly unknown liquids anymore.



There is more, but it doesn't matter if it will get burried by paid questions and replies...


Dear competitors in vaping business. It ia very pleasent for us, that your are suching about differnt successes of our company RELAKES.
Answering questions:
1. We are new members here and a lot of peole are new here too. They ask different question and we answer. We don't pay anyone for a question. Maybe your posr is paid?
2. We answer all questions. Were are from Belarus, maybe were are answering with some mistakes, but we are trying to be correct
3. Can you give some real our "forward statements" Just concretize
4. You are quite write, that research of a product cost a lot in Europe. It is written in our whitepaper. We atract money also to make this research in all Markets of future presents
5. We also buy aromas from American, italian, English companies. As was told in 4 question we will make research of our product. About AntiNic. We will do everything to give this product on the market
6. We are legal company and even bank in Europe will work with us, because we will di everyrhing by the laws. When you pay by our VapeCoin we reflect in the accounting department this purchase, transferring money through the exchange (legal stock)
7.Packaging of 30 ml is legal when it is without Nicotine (this is also writing in our whitepaper)! With nicotine we will make 10 ml. We know and respect the law of every country
8. We will do all to atract as much as possible the participants of vape markets. Now producer of devases SARATOV17 and chain Vape.ru are ready to work with VapeCoin
9. We will sell. We know the Laws pf every country and we have tested marketing strategy for entering new markets. If we can work and be successful in pure markets, we can be very strong in rich and growing markets
10. USA is the same. We will do contract production of our BRANDS there
11. This substance AntiNic needs to pass the tests. We are working hard to give peope some alternative. When AntiNic will pass all tests we can talk about it
12. We are selling our production more than in 100 cities and more than 600 shops. You can see this on our web www.relakes.com  All this we done for 1 year. We are working at pure markets with big competitions. New market are richer, competetions are less. Our product is good. Also we do every 6 month new products.
13. If you see our whitepaper, You can see that about 2 millions of dollars we will spenf on adverising.

At the END i Want say thanks for all haters.You make our company stronger!

Also You can see companies of our owner. Hi is successful in different kind of business.
Companies and projects of Victor Podgayskiy:
 
1. Company  CJSC "Chisty Bereg"
https://www.bereg.by/
The company is 18 years old.
It’s the largest supplier of pipe fittings and pipes, sanitary equipment in the Republic of Belarus.
 
2. Company “Megatron M” LLC
http://www.megatron.by/
The company is 14 years old.
It’s the supplier of the cable and other electrical equipment in the Republic of Belarus.
 
3. Company «Poliflex» LLC
http://polyflex.by
The company is 12 years old.
It’s engaged in the production of the polymer products.
 
4. Company «Beets BlU» Ltd.    
http://beetsblu.com/
The company is 5 years old.
It produces the smart devices.  
Products are sold all over the world, including on amazon.com
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00JE9JKG8/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1508089825&sr=8-1&keywords=beets+blu&dpPl=1&dpID=41Jyjm9bvCL&ref=plSrch
 
5. Company 4ILab Ltd
The company is 6 years old
http://4ilab.io
It produces the games.
Game Time of Dragon.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/353130/Time_of_Dragons/?l=russian
Game Drunk or Dead
http://store.steampowered.com/app/577290/Drunk_or_Dead/
Game Vodoo
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ilab.VforVoodoo
There are about 1 000 000 of downloads and 12 000 reviews.
 
6. Company RELAKES LLC
http://relakes.by
The company is 1 year old.
It produces the liquids for the steam generators (e-liquids).
The company has opened offices in 3 countries during the year, and the products are sold in more than 100 cities.
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Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] VapeCoin The 1st vape industry ICO!
by
konstan23
on 17/10/2017, 15:53:22 UTC
What is 'RELAKES' current revenue?
For this year about 320 000 $
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Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] VapeCoin The 1st vape industry ICO!
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konstan23
on 16/10/2017, 19:23:53 UTC
Good afternoon. What marketing strategies will you use to promote your products in new markets?
Hello. We have special strategy. We used it on 3 markets. We making tests of our products in the best vape bar in a city. So we become friends with the owerner of bar. We give for him special prices and promore his business making parties there. So our product became popular and another shops byu our products to. It is one little thng about marketing
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Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] VapeCoin The 1st vape industry ICO!
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konstan23
on 16/10/2017, 08:18:34 UTC
New product development independently or do you collaborate with specialists of third-party companies?
Some products we develop independently and with some products we collabjrate with specialists of third-party companies.
For a examle all tastes we made by our self. But to to check tastes in the vapor-gas phase, we give it to specialists from another laboratory. They have special equipment that we do not have.
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Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] VapeCoin The 1st vape industry ICO!
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konstan23
on 15/10/2017, 06:11:45 UTC
VapeCoin.com is selling for 100 000$ It is not a project Like our

That's only 17 BTC.

I can't find that information anywhere.

Where did you see that at?

I wrote to the owner. Our company whants to bye it, but is too much, as i think
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Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] VapeCoin The 1st vape industry ICO!
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konstan23
on 14/10/2017, 15:39:28 UTC
Ok, maybe. And why do you think vaping will still be growing?

Vaping is in it's infancy, it's only going to get bigger. Cigarettes are being phased out. Look at the 'smoking' data among teens in the United States. Everyone is talking about how smoking is on the decline, and this is true. However, vaping is on the rise among teens. This demographic will be long term customers for life.

A Vape related coin is actually an idea I wanted to start for years, but you know what they say about sitting on good ideas.

Thank you very much, for your questions.
About Laws. Laws in America are different from ours. They have differrent specific. So we don't let American citizien invest in our company
RELAKES works on the market since 2016. You can see our company web site www.relakes.by  Here is video from our production (it is only in russian)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddzn5P3O8cQ&list=PLzdssZx1e8gCe1kDVPZsyldyUtcnZzG8I
More than for a 1 year our production is solving in 3 countries and more than 100 cities. We are intering knew markets and of cause we need investation for a faster coming on this markets.
Also we develop AntiNic technology, which will completely exclude nicotine from RELAKES products and keep millions of people healthy.
In the nearest future VapeCoin will be accepted by the majority of vape market players (manufacturers of liquids, devices and accessories) and adjacent markets players as well.
We are working hard to make our project great

I understand. Since people in the United States cannot invest in your VapeCoin it appears that there is a worldwide VapeCoin.com project that is being worked on as well. Will you ever be available in the U.S.?

VapeCoin.com Project
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1943576.0


VapeCoin.com is selling for 100 000$ It is not a project Like our
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Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] VapeCoin The 1st vape industry ICO!
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konstan23
on 14/10/2017, 13:47:57 UTC
Can the owner of a large number of tokens to be part of the management of the company RELAKES?

Yes it possible, if his knowledge whould help company, why not!
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Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] VapeCoin The 1st vape industry ICO!
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konstan23
on 14/10/2017, 09:17:36 UTC
Already all in the crypto currency! I do not see here the blockchain and ecosystem in this project

Blockchain technology introduction to the production process would radically increase the transparency of the product manufacturing and logistics.

So our customers can scan qr on a product and see all steps of producing this product. All ingridiens, time and date of production, date of sales from our company to disribute company
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Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] VapeCoin The 1st vape industry ICO!
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konstan23
on 14/10/2017, 08:57:27 UTC
VapeCoin on Relakes.com is very confusing.

For someone like me in the U.S. a sign of true commitment is a company that establishes marketing continuity across all channels.

Take PotCoin for example.

PotCoin can be found on PotCoin.com and their twitter is @PotCoin. It signals legitimacy to investors. As a marketer I think it is a huge mistake not to do the same.

This is also NOT the first VapeCoin in the vape industry. Here is another VapeCoin that failed and was another fly-by-night operation:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=911357.0

Your site looks great, but there are a lot of great looking ICOs that have an empty core and are fly-by-night pump-and-dumps.

That's my feel after reviewing this project.



Thank you very much, for your questions.
About Laws. Laws in America are different from ours. They have differrent specific. So we don't let American citizien invest in our company
RELAKES works on the market since 2016. You can see our company web site www.relakes.by  Here is video from our production (it is only in russian)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddzn5P3O8cQ&list=PLzdssZx1e8gCe1kDVPZsyldyUtcnZzG8I
More than for a 1 year our production is solving in 3 countries and more than 100 cities. We are intering knew markets and of cause we need investation for a faster coming on this markets.
Also we develop AntiNic technology, which will completely exclude nicotine from RELAKES products and keep millions of people healthy.
In the nearest future VapeCoin will be accepted by the majority of vape market players (manufacturers of liquids, devices and accessories) and adjacent markets players as well.
We are working hard to make our project great
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Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] VapeCoin The 1st vape industry ICO!
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konstan23
on 12/10/2017, 17:08:18 UTC
As Blockchain will help in the development of this project? Unique?
Blockchain technology introduction to the production process would radically increase the transparency of the product manufacturing and logistics
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Re: Сдам в аренду клиентов ICO
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konstan23
on 18/09/2017, 12:06:54 UTC
Есть около 200 тыс. контактов потенциальных инвесторов ICO, любителей азарта, спекуляций, крипто-валют и пр.
Проще говоря, есть целевая группа для эффективных кампаний.
Подробности в ЛС.

Можно мне в личку предложение?