roger that, putting all my life savings on the next real madrid game, over >1 goals

just a joke

I agree that it's important to be responsible, in reality the fastest way to make money is giving up on making money fast and accepting that going slow can be good too, no need to rush things.
we have luck days and bad days, one should learn to stay out of the game sometimes too, it's important.

alcohol addiction can take years even decades to develop, that's correct
with gambling the dopamine hit is much faster so it can make people addicted easily, it's a harder drug
but mainly because it's fully psychological too, there's no biological substance directly involved with gambling as with drugs you consume.

interesting I usually prefer skill games where luck plays a role but you can improve and get better over time
this way I can see the arch of improvement and see how I was at the beggining and what I became
it's nice

with luck I feel like somehow you get the stories and experiences but stays in the same level.

I don't gamble a lot but one of the good sides I see is the fun you can have doing it
another one is that it really gives the possibility of someone to grow fortune if they are talented or really luck
not common, but not impossible

everyone should read this dostoyevsky book about gambling, "the player" if I'm not mistaken
it is a really good one

I think money is the biggest motivator
then comes thrill, excitement, the joy of not knowing if it'll work or not, the danger of losing
then probably there are some who approach gambling in a self-destructing way, sabotaging themselves
and there's talent too for some rare ones

sim, eles fazem análises de depósitos usando chainanalysis, vi dois comentários no X falando que alguns usuários tiveram seus depósitos negados e estavam na fila de devolução.


você pode fazer um teste com uma quantidade pequena se estiver deconfiado

o tio-avô da irmã do dev que é meu vizinho usa muito e nunca teve problemas

inclusive caso métricas te deixem mais tranquilo:
atualmente a unit já processou mais de 656 milhões de dólares em depósitos na hyperliquid, sendo 354 milhões de usd em BTC e 144 milhões em ETH



fonte: https://unit.hyperdash.info/

a hyperliquid em si já tem 13% do marketshare the exchanges e 18.8% do marketshare do mercado de btc (acredito que esse dado é apenas para exchanges de perpétuos)
mais dados aqui https://hyperdash.info/marketshare

depositando pela unit há boatos de que você farma o airdrop de UNIT também, caso haja mesmo, ticker já foi comprado

o dev @sershokunin parece ser bem acessível pelo twitter

o fee vai sair certamente menor que 1%.

What are some of the best books you read on the subject of money, investing and economics?

for me the first two that I'd recommend at an entry level are

"The psychology of money" by Morgan Housel
and "the richest man in babylon" by George s. Clason

both are really good to get the concepts and principles on investing and how to deal better with money

but there are many other good ones
what are some you'd recommend?

engano seu
a UNIT é o provedor que faz depósitos e saques de ETH, SOL, BTC, FARTCOIN (e futuramente outros ativos) e NÃO PRECISA DE KYC
se você estiver no site oficial mesmo é só depositar no endereço gerado e receberá seus BTC na hyperliquid após deduzida a taxa pequena de menos de 2 usd como consta na imagem que você enviou

atualmente é a opção mais barata para comprar e vender btc on chain, inclusive.

time limit is a way but many will just ignore the bell when it rings and keep on gambling if they are really enterteined
I think the main thing is knowing when to stop or having a set amount of money that you can lose without problems for the day

so:
- alarms are good but not ideal since they are easy to ignore
- having a guardian angel, a person to help you to stop could be way
- having a max amount to lose per day or a moment to stop after winning is another good option

fun, pleasure, excitement, even connection

if there are no "good" points about it then nobody would get addicted, right?
for cigarettes the effect is so powerful that even these huge warnings saying "you will die" or "you will get cancer" aren't enough to stop people from consuming it
it's crazy if you really think about it

this is the point and the neverending cruzade of the good gambler
to balance amount of risk takes vs bet size
I think it'll all come to that
then you can expose yourself to luck and see if she will smile at you or not
at the end of the day you have no way to know for sure
but you can decide when you are taking the bet and when you are sitting out, maybe this is all you need

I don't think real state is a good investment option nowadays, much better to hold BTC and for most non premium real state even treasury bonds are better
over the long term BTC will probably yield more returns than anything else but I guess we'll see

I agree that saving is important, even in small steps, but depending on the level of savings a person would be better focusing on earning more first so they can bump their savings later.

I work for clients and for myself, not for institutions and the government so for me it wouldn't change
but I bet most people would be mad about it

I think more and more we should come back to Thoreau when he writes Walden and Civil disobedience

opens quote:


You don't always have to do what they tell you to do
this is plain simple
but quite rare attitude to see nowadays

provavelmente vi pela primeira vez por conta do Tim Ferris ou algum podcast/influencer, aí fui pesquisar mais e achei sensacional
eu tenho o sono muito leve, acordo fácil, então tudo que ajuda a dormir melhor acaba me interessando hahaha
interessante essa informação da caixa na cia aérea, bom saber

quem sabe um dia ainda viajo justamente pra buscar um desse...

valeu pelas informações sobre o cartão também!

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Bom @bitmover
outra novidade boa pra você

todo lugar que aceita USDC aceita BTC

segue o tutorial de como fazer:

1. deposite seu BTC nativamente na hyperliquid via unit (só acessar https://app.hyperliquid.xyz/ logar com qualquer conta de ETH e clicar em deposit, use o código FOREVERLONG na aba refferals para pagar menos fees)
2. assim que seus BTC constarem por lá venda a quantidade que deseja para USDC pelo mercado spot (atualmente tem bastante liquidez no topo do book, mais de 100k usd, então imagino que deve te atender para esse caso, caso precise fazer vendas maiores pode optar por um TWAP ou simplesmente deixar uma ordem de venda)
3. saque seus usdc nativamente para a rede da arbitrum pagando 1 usdc apenas de fee
4. use o relay.link ou o serviço que preferir para mandar usdc da arbitrum para a base
5. envie da base (você vai precisar de uma micro quantidade de eth) diretamente para sua carteira p2p

Pronto!

if you start from the point that there is a way to beat inflation by saving in hard money and that bitcoin is acessible to all then it's a matter of discipline, the first thing is saving more than spending
then of course it comes to other things
I think anyone would be able to do it if they had the knowledge but most don't really care so much

infelizmente minha campanha só aceita 5 posts na aba local por semana então realmente estou menos ativo por aqui
saudades de vocês 

mas olha pelo lado bom, pelo menos tenho explorado outras partes do forum. A aba economics até que é legal


e no caso da plataforma que vários estão divulgando nos comentários? p2p.me (se alguém quiser ref avisa inbox, o ref aumenta seu limite por lá, posso mandar para users ativos aqui)

além de um sistema mais robusto de ref e limites bem baixos já tiveram mais de 50 mil transações (alguns milhões em volume) e zero problemas desde que abriram no Brasil (também estão ativos n Índia e se não me engano na indonésia)
dá pra usar a plataforma para pagar qualquer QR PIX com USDC, dessa forma descentralizada, como um estabelecimento, restaurante, o tio que vende cigarro, a padaria, vai saber se está recebendo dinheiro sujo ou limpo? não tem como e o tio que vende churrasco não deveria ser responsabililizado por isso.

eu acho bem improvável que a receita ou a polícia se importem com pequenos volumes... mas claro que se acontecer de ter uma investigação gigante quem está mandando direto para conta própria pode ter problemas.

I think the main difference is that cigarettes and alcohol are harmful in a biological level when gambling doesn't really hurt you biologically but emotionally and psychologically
one can argue that it could lead to neurotransmiter imbalances but I think this is probably forcing too much, not really the main thing to focus on

of course one can get addicted to the activity but this is probably more in the mind than in the body.

I always wonder how many people click on our signature links
I guess many probably do
sometimes I wonder if the companies do it for the SEO too because bitcointalk is a good and active website that probably pumps their recommendations when there are many hyperlinks to their website

I don't gamble actively so for me its more like a mean of staying active here which is something I really enjoy doing

yes, maybe you are right, I don't have children yet so for now I don't mind that much owning real state but at some point things may be different
I don't discard the idea of renting longterm even with the means to buy simply because the investment will be better
it's not so hard to find a good place to rent too if you have the means to pay for the rent
in my area even in the times it is hard you can find a good place in a couple of months and move