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Re: [POOL][Scrypt][Scrypt-N] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com
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lagster
on 12/06/2014, 21:08:13 UTC
Hi waffle,

I know the next step for you is X13, as you mentioned. Then combining payouts, got it. But whats your overall vision right now? Multi-algo switching? Keep em separate? Deploy wafflecoin? {/joke}
Any insight would be appreciated.

Good question Smiley

X13 is the obvious first step.  I'm in the zone with adding the new algorithms, and X13 shouldn't be much work to add from X11.  I'm out of town this weekend, so it probably won't be finished until next week, but should be pretty quick.

After that, like you said, combining payouts has been a major request, and shouldn't be much work.  It should have been done by now, but I like to be extra cautious on things like payouts.  Don't want anything to screw up there Smiley

Past that, I like the idea of the algo-switching, but it does require some extra thinking.  The way it is done with NiceHash is really neat (props to them for the idea, and funding the custom version of sgminer), but at this point, the new version of sgminer seems to have some issues.  Ideally by the time I've got the other stuff done, the major kinks will be worked out in the new sgminer version, and we can look into an algo-switching version of WP.  The actual algo-switching part isn't too tough (pretty easy in fact), the bigger issue is figuring out how to do the switching based on user preferences.  For example, if your miner can do 1MHs Scrypt, and 6MHs X11 (normal is 4MHs X11 for a 1MH scrypt), you would need to be treated differently in terms of what is profitable than someone with 1MH/4MH.  There is also the difference of preference of power consumption.  Some people would like to bias their miners towards X11/X13 because of the power savings, some users don't care, and would prefer to mine whatever is the most profitable (regardless of power costs).

Doing algo-switching on a generic level (preset values) is reasonably easy.  Doing algo-switching with user preferences becomes quite a bit more difficult Smiley
don't you think it is time to move to gpuwafflepool with registration and individual preference settings for upcoming smart algo-switching?
and to keep wafflepool scrypt-asic friendly without registration.
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com
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lagster
on 28/03/2014, 22:11:01 UTC
Normally I would not resort to such a tone, but there are certain types of people who only respond from their ego when their stated beliefs are questioned, and I thought it was important to let others here know that some of the advice that phzi has been giving is not entirely accurate, but being presented as absolute.
You mean people like you... who only respond from their ego? I say to you again, please show me what 'advice' I have offered that was not accurate.  Stop posting non-contextual bullshit without quotes - aka, stop trolling like a fool.

There really is something very wrong with you, isn't there?  We're done with this.  If it makes you happy, you can imagine that you "won" something by my decision to drop out of this exchange.  Seems like you need it as some measure of self worth.

did i miss your answer to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448649.msg5931422#msg5931422, or just like "Hawking once said, "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge"."
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com
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lagster
on 28/03/2014, 21:53:01 UTC
I am not looking for a troll war.
i cant sniff for anyone but myself at hetzner, digitalocean and other minor hosters, are you certain that it is possible at all and still possible right now at wp\cm\mp hoster?
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com
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lagster
on 28/03/2014, 21:15:45 UTC
Normally I would not resort to such a tone, but there are certain types of people who only respond from their ego when their stated beliefs are questioned, and I thought it was important to let others here know that some of the advice that phzi has been giving is not entirely accurate, but being presented as absolute.
You mean people like you... who only respond from their ego? I say to you again, please show me what 'advice' I have offered that was not accurate.  Stop posting non-contextual bullshit without quotes - aka, stop trolling like a fool.

is it possible for you two to get married?
or just kiss and post it here as a proof of true manliest friendship.
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com
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lagster
on 27/03/2014, 15:10:04 UTC
Another dumbass question: Has anyone run multiple instances of miner clients and had it stay stable.  I want to use seperate cards in same box so I can try Vertcoin.  I realize I might have to upgrade memory capacity for that box.  I know cgminer has an option to select cards to use ... just have not dug into it yet and do not want to make my mining box unstable trying this.
I use a separate instance of cgminer for every card, it works fine. Just specify the device and device platform in your code. This is the only way to run different cards at different settings on the same box anyways, as far as I know. You will need to run "cgminer -ndevs" once to
it is not the only way of running different cards (sg and cg-kalroth allows you to run any amd cards in one rig with one miner running), but it is the only way to distribute yout hashes among different pools like one card for vert, one for heavy, one for wp, one for cm, one for cs and one for ghio.
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Re: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com
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lagster
on 27/03/2014, 14:50:19 UTC

 Shocked Huh

What kind of hardware is being used?

-  10 130 MH / s are more than 10,000 R9 290x GPUs, consuming over 320W x 10000 = 32 000 KW / day!

How is it possible exist a miner so big!? Shocked Huh
one clever janitor of large hadron collider. check sfire @bitcointalk.org
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com
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lagster
on 27/03/2014, 14:40:25 UTC
Good day all.  And I am back to mining on waffle now that the DDOS and reconnect has been solved.  I prefer to mine multiple coins and have given back 30% of my hashrate to waffle.
what makes you think that reconnect issue has been solved?
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com
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lagster
on 27/03/2014, 13:51:01 UTC
Hi!
Due to the fact that the profits are a little down here on waffle, i have (epic) splited my hash power with Clevermining.

5 Mhash each one... Lets see who wins the profit battle...

LPC

Tried that for sometime, but ended 100% on waffle.
CM reject % is huge and the hash they report doesn't match what I can see on the miners.
Point is, the profit they declare and the one you see don't match.

A.
cm reject rate is 5%-15% and if you subtract it from their (probably pretty fake profit meter) you will see ~"spherical ltc in vacuum" profitability. and you can just switch to ghio with 0% fee for ltc mining with 0 rejects. but seems that sfire moved to cm. probably it is a little better. i am curious what his reject rate in mh is at cm. 10 times my all rigs combined or may be 100*Me? ))
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com
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lagster
on 27/03/2014, 10:56:09 UTC
i am probably doing something wrong, but i cant sniff anything from my datacenters.
What does tcpdump show?  Run it briefly and then terminate.  Take note if there are any packets filtered by the interface - this would likely indicate that there is a lot you could be sniffing but don't have your server configured correctly.
100753 captured 100753 recieved 0 dropped
and all of them were my two ssh connections for few minutes while tcpdumping.
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com
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lagster
on 26/03/2014, 22:52:22 UTC
any proves that you can sniff my traffic if i give you an ip? not just some virtual hoster that you managed to get it working 5 years ago?
Of course I can't sniff your traffic arbitrarily.  You can only view traffic on the wire where you are located - so, if you have a server in a data center on the same switch as a pool, for example, you could view all the traffic inbound to the pool.

And OVH is far from a "virtual hoster" - they are one of the largest private data center providers in the world.

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This is all pretty basic networking stuff.  You want a demo of sniffing packets?  Connect two machines to the same network switch, fire up wireshark on one machine and start monitoring (can filter based on the other machine's IP if you want), and then go to a few websites on the second machine.

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Confirmation from an OVH employee, written last month, suggesting that intercepting traffic was still possible at OVH (they claim they are updating their switch configuration with a feature that prevent this):
https://forum.ovh.us/showthread.php/306-Misdirected-traffic-on-dedicated-server

It looks like in the case of OVH, some form of DoS attack may be necessary to knock the intended host offline in order to intercept tcp headers.  That OVH employee post certainly confirms in my mind that, when combined with another server at a host that fails to implement BCP38, the attack method I proposed is definitely possible.
pretty basic stuff to see the traffic of all of your neighbores at your datacenter? i am probably doing something wrong, but i cant sniff anything from my datacenters. do i have to name the hosters to prove i cant sniff no one around me?
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com
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lagster
on 26/03/2014, 22:28:13 UTC
Here is how I would attempt to execute such an attack, based on :
- buy a server in the same data center as a large pool
- sniff packets intended for the pool (this used to be possible on OVH if you were on the same subnet as the intended host, probably still is)
is this really possible? i mean of course it is possible if you are working in that datacenter, but for outsider and only knowing pool ip..?
It's definitely possible.
any proves that you can sniff my traffic if i give you an ip? not just some virtual hoster that you managed to get it working 5 years ago?
so no one else think of ghash when looking for place where they have given their address and probably some more information to get listed?
so was anyone of those who got redirected not having a static ip and never mined at ghash?
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com
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lagster
on 26/03/2014, 20:52:03 UTC
Here is how I would attempt to execute such an attack, based on :
- buy a server in the same data center as a large pool
- sniff packets intended for the pool (this used to be possible on OVH if you were on the same subnet as the intended host, probably still is)
is this really possible? i mean of course it is possible if you are working in that datacenter, but for outsider and only knowing pool ip..?
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com
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lagster
on 26/03/2014, 20:02:08 UTC

Injecting TCP packets into sessions is not an easy task - but it is possible. For a starter, one must know the IP address of the miner and source & destination ports (and some other details regarding specific TCP session).

does anyone else think of a pool that attracted hundreds of miners with "foolish" proposal of 200% profit?
i wonder if every single one of hijacked miners were mining there and if anyone of them had dinamic ip.. i was not poolswitched yet and i was mining there with no static ip.
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com
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lagster
on 23/03/2014, 02:05:25 UTC
That affected miners were showing the unexpected ip address on their status screens suggests an attack other than dns hijack, as mining software (such as cgminer) that usually displays a server name instead of its resolved address, would continue showing a server name, but the underlying network transport would resolve that server name to a different ip address.
sgminer and cgminer-37.3 (k) display pool names from their config files even when you set url to hard ://ip did someone changed configs during the "thing" to point miners to ://ip instead of name of the server? or may be to other pool and it went ok? what platform did miners who suffered used? bamt(what version and miner) or win cg or sg or cg-k? and what does edumacate mean?
and, considering scrypt asic situation right now, i would invest some $ in this kind of uberswitcherfacetoassbassin (the one, switching dns servers instead of coins)
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com
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lagster
on 23/03/2014, 01:09:56 UTC
is there any clear info about what happened with dns of east waffle server? ip to where all hashes went or anything? did they actually go anywhere?
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com
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lagster
on 23/03/2014, 01:05:11 UTC

In the 1600's, Galileo was persecuted for suggesting that the Earth revolved around the Sun.  But ultimately the masses came around to his way of thinking.  Unless you wish to claim otherwise.


Oh, so you're the Galileo of forum trolls? That's not weird at all. I'm Spartacus by the way. Nice meeting you.
ffs you could never met.
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com
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lagster
on 23/03/2014, 01:00:36 UTC
For those of you affected by the problem with detailed cgminer logs, (from cgminer/sgminer, not cgwatcher as it does not log such messages), may I suggest that you search for "reconnect requested" messages for any possible evidence of this method being used.

is it too late to scan open ports of whole interwebs to send switch command yet?
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com
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lagster
on 23/03/2014, 00:28:03 UTC
What is strange with my Hosted GridSpeed connected to Waffle East is my hash rate shows 0 but my Earned and unconverted keeps growing???  What the heck??
why dont you ask gridseed manages? 98.8% of people in here do not like your kind as much as thier first hangover.
I have.. But if its a Pool issue its not their issue..
And yea I could see how people would not like me considering I am getting Free hosting including free electricity and Internet..
I dont care what people like or dont like..
and why would you care for their help then?
how can it be a pool issue if their 22+ghs are jumping on and off at will?
ummmmm  How about you read the 25 post before this one???  before you open your mouth..
you never provided enough details about your problem. you could probably get better results with pmsing the only person who is interested in you - pw or reading few previous posts by yourself rather than pointing me there..
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com
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lagster
on 22/03/2014, 23:03:24 UTC
What is strange with my Hosted GridSpeed connected to Waffle East is my hash rate shows 0 but my Earned and unconverted keeps growing???  What the heck??
why dont you ask gridseed manages? 98.8% of people in here do not like your kind as much as thier first hangover.
I have.. But if its a Pool issue its not their issue..
And yea I could see how people would not like me considering I am getting Free hosting including free electricity and Internet..
I dont care what people like or dont like..
and why would you care for their help then?
how can it be a pool issue if their 22+ghs are jumping on and off at will?
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Re: [ANN][POOL] Profit switching pool - wafflepool.com
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lagster
on 22/03/2014, 22:53:54 UTC

since it is obvious that some one compiled cgminer or sgminer with a worm within, you probably should publicly post it here. and after that we will find the trojan link. omg do you think it is deeper... in wifi router's dns settings ?


I do not believe that to be the case.  But if it were a dns hack, cgminer or most other miner software would still continue to display x.wafflepool.com as the pool server name, and it would simply resolve to another ip address underneath.  If cgminer or other miner software shows the unexpected ip address as the server name, then something else must be the cause.  I suggested one possibility to pw, but he considered it to be unlikely.  We'll see.

there is a 50% possibility (either yes or no) that fbi cдeлaлo eмy пpeдлoжeниe oт кoтopoгo нeльзя oткaзaтьcя? ))