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Re: What are you ready to buy/sell for bitcoins now?
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lenaza2022
on 07/07/2022, 17:43:56 UTC
Quote from: ChrisPop on June 28, 2022, 02:39:20 PM
Quote from: lenaza2022 on June 13, 2022, 07:39:05 PM
Let's discuss assets, goods and services which price is more than $200 net. Inexpensive goods have already been discussed on this forum. For now, we will not take into account the fact that the use of crypto may be prohibited in one country or another. Let's find how we are ready to negotiate, and what tools we do need in order the buyer could find the seller.

I'd say that the best way to find buyers who deal in Bitcoin is through local Bitcoin/crypto focused groups. Be careful about the laws in your country. As far as I know the sales of items above a certain value need to be formally closed with documents as proof (bill, contract, etc.). That might also be in your benefit as in case of a control from the fiscal agency you generally need to prove income (this mostly applies if you're doing a lot of transactions)
Thank you for advise )))
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Re: What is the future of bitcoin? Commodity, currency or smth else?
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lenaza2022
on 07/07/2022, 17:38:54 UTC
It seems that bitcoin plays different roles today. Can bitcoin be a currency even if transactions are taxed?
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Re: Bitcoin price and actions to raise it
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lenaza2022
on 07/07/2022, 17:28:23 UTC
Is it still possible to create such an infrastructure in which bitcoin will not fall below a certain level?
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Re: What are you ready to buy/sell for bitcoins now?
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lenaza2022
on 15/06/2022, 10:30:52 UTC
Bitcoin could fall even lower. If bitcoin claims to be a currency, then there must be a demand for it in times of decline and rise. Buying a house or a car with bitcoins is an asset exchange. The exchange of assets can take place at the contractual rate of bitcoin, and not at the instant. The situation is different with inexpensive goods in online commerce.
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Re: Bitcoin price and actions to raise it
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lenaza2022
on 15/06/2022, 10:18:23 UTC
We need to define what bitcoin is. If bitcoin or other crypto is a game of making money quickly and losing money quickly, then bitcoin is doing its job well now.
If bitcoin and other crypto are savings and means of payment, then bitcoin needs to be strengthened. It is necessary to strengthen the position and status of crypto. It is necessary to popularize the crypto through websites and look at how to pay taxes on the circulation of bitcoin.
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Re: Bitcoin and tools. Would you like to spend/live without extra data control?
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lenaza2022
on 15/06/2022, 10:03:44 UTC
In order for the circulation of bitcoin or other cryptocurrency in society will be stable and accepted by society, this circulation of crypto must be built into existing economic relations. Therefore, a certain share of control over the circulation of cryptocurrency and its users will be in society and the state in the future.
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Re: What is the future of bitcoin? Commodity, currency or smth else?
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lenaza2022
on 15/06/2022, 09:55:50 UTC
Quote from: franky1 on June 14, 2022, 04:17:35 PM
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think about it. (imagine 10% tax at each hand it passes)
when 20 people buy something for $1k each from a shop. instantly there is $100 per purchase deducted from that amount due to sales tax. leaving $900 in circulation per person
($20k to $18k)
when the retailer spends its $18k on 10 members of staff wages, their $1.8k is deducted 10% of income tax)
leaving staff with $1.62k ($20k down to $16.2k)

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governments will always have a inflationary currency and always tax people.  as it is the only way they can stay relevant and needed,

Taxes are necessary to keep the state system, education system, health care system, etc. running. Therefore, even crypt circulations will be taxed.
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Re: Bitcoin price and actions to raise it
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lenaza2022
on 14/06/2022, 17:54:10 UTC
Quote from: juwel509 on Today at 05:13:43 PM
We've been here before, you are just making the whales richer, selling your precious BTC for pennies (crappy fiat). The storm will pass, hodl, or try to accumulate even more BTC, it's a great time to buy for cheap. We will make it this time too. Even if BTC goes down to $15,000 nothing is forever. Remember $20,000 down to $3,000? Been through that storm too. Remember, 1 BTC = 1 BTC. To the Moon!
with this strategy, prices can already be set in bitcoins)))
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Re: Influence the lower level of crypto price fluctuations
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lenaza2022
on 14/06/2022, 17:42:34 UTC
Is high volatility a plus or minus for crypto? Can we keep the natural volatility but raise the level to which the value of the currency falls?
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Re: Bitcoin price and actions to raise it
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lenaza2022
on 14/06/2022, 17:10:08 UTC
Quote from: GeorgeJohn on June 07, 2022, 06:01:27 PM
What is happening with cryptocurrency price regulations, now is not the first time or second we experience the falling of cryptocurrency. So from my perspective, their is not wrong with the price depreciations but it's an avenue for buyers or who wants to invest into cryptocurrency to purchase and hold for period of time. The challenge we have right now is the market structure. The determination of the market is be activated through the gravity of the demand and supply for it's speed in price decrement and increments.
yes, buyers always want to pay less for an asset, because it will give more profit in the future. At the same time, crypto holders would like to feel that crypto won't drop very low in value during times of volatility and falling demand. If well-known cryptocurrencies will start to drop to zero, then the credibility of crypto will be severely undermined. In this case, it will be difficult to increase the popularity of crypto. Increasing popularity is necessary in order not to run the risk of falling in price to zero. That is why online popularization is necessary. Even the fact of the presence of prices in crypto "in plain sight" is already a popularization of crypto.
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Re: What are you ready to buy/sell for bitcoins now?
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lenaza2022
on 14/06/2022, 16:39:13 UTC
Давайте представим, что везде разрешено продавать и покупать товары и услуги и оплачивать их крипто. Какие инструменты нам нужны, чтобы покупатель мог найти продавца?
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Re: Bitcoin price and actions to raise it
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lenaza2022
on 14/06/2022, 12:18:43 UTC
Quote from: juwel509 on Today at 02:32:56 AM
This is one of the many reasons why Bitcoin will stay. Those altcoins know how Bitcoin is valuable and will stay. For sure some also selling their altcoins or funds just to buy Bitcoin as their reserve funds.
Now that market is bleeding, I believe that there will be a lot of altcoins that will get hammered, and most people starting to convert their altcoins to Bitcoin which for me is also a good idea, especially during bear season.
while almost everything falls, it would be good for the future to strengthen the lower possible level of the fall of bitcoin. Many admit on this forum that the popularization of bitcoin will raise the price of bitcoin. I agree.
People who have bitcoin could take concrete steps to popularize bitcoin. One of the options for such actions could be an increase in the number of sites with prices in cryptocurrency, at least informatively where operations with crypto are prohibited.
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Raising the lower level of bitcoin fluctuation
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lenaza2022
on 14/06/2022, 11:46:12 UTC
The price of bitcoin consists of two factors: technical and human. If technically (programs and hardware) everything works fine, then the price of bitcoin will depend on the human factor. The floor price of bitcoin will be determined by people's trust in bitcoin and the penetration of bitcoin (crypto) into everyday life. In order for the level of popularity to grow, it is necessary that transactions with bitcoin take place. The speed of government action to tax bitcoin transactions also depends on the level of popularity of bitcoin in everyday life. Right now, bitcoin mainstreaming depends on government action on taxation and the willingness of people to negotiate bitcoin prices in a highly volatile market. The willingness and ability of people to negotiate prices in a volatile market would push to the development of the crypto application environment.

Raising the lower level of bitcoin fluctuation will reduce the risk of fatal losses.
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Re: Bitcoin price and actions to raise it
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lenaza2022
on 14/06/2022, 11:13:53 UTC
In order for bitcoin to work freely and legally in different countries, it is necessary to create an environment for buying and selling goods and services. When the tools are in place, then government agencies will be able to draw conclusions on how they can collect taxes from this activity. Such platforms should be easy to use for consumers and transparent for government agencies.
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Re: What are you ready to buy/sell for bitcoins now?
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lenaza2022
on 14/06/2022, 11:00:52 UTC
A good currency/asset, even in times of instability, retains its purchasing power. Now is the time for a challenge on how to negotiate a price for a product / service in bitcoins if the value of bitcoin, converted into fiat, falls. What is the best way to negotiate the sale/purchase of goods/services in bitcoins now?
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What are you ready to buy/sell for bitcoins now?
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lenaza2022
on 13/06/2022, 19:39:05 UTC
Bitcoin may still be in a volatile market for a long time. How are you ready to dispose of your assets now? Would you like to buy and sell your assets/products/services for bitcoins? How are you ready to negotiate a price to make the deal go through?
Let's discuss assets, goods and services which price is more than $200 net. Inexpensive goods have already been discussed on this forum. For now, we will not take into account the fact that the use of crypto may be prohibited in one country or another. Let's understand how we are ready to negotiate, and what tools we need so that the buyer can find the seller.
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Re: Bitcoin price and actions to raise it
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lenaza2022
on 13/06/2022, 10:07:50 UTC
Steps can be taken to limit the fall of bitcoin. Any of our steps will be natural steps because we make them based on our experience. The experience with the new currency/value is not great yet. But in order to gain experience, steps must be taken. New steps will entail other steps. The movement around bitcoin and crypto will increase. This will affect the rate of crypto, the acceptance of crypto and the height of the minimum level of fall.
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Re: Bitcoin price and actions to raise it
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lenaza2022
on 12/06/2022, 23:53:09 UTC
Quote from: EdenHazard on Today at 11:48:08 PM
Quote from: Mauser on June 11, 2022, 08:58:16 PM

Quote from: lenaza2022 on June 07, 2022, 09:15:47 AM
This is the time to look around and ask: What else can be done to sustain BTC growth? How to increase interest in BTC?


I think the interest for bitcoins is still strong right now, it's just that people are very unsettled about the uncertainty of the next 6 months. There are so many issues the world faces that makes investing unpredictable. The Russia Ukraine war is still going on with no end insight, economic growth is slowing down world-wide due to rising inflation and the covid pandemic might still not be over. Without these issues the bitcoin price would be much higher with many investors buying instead of selling.
The most important thing the average bitcoin investor can do to stabilise the price is, not selling. Not giving into the selling pressure is already a big deal. Like this there is already less downward pressure on the price and also less supply for the short term traders who are looking for a quick profit. Right now the volatility is very high with prices jumping 5% in a single. Getting some more stability into the price would be could to calm nerves of the big investors. The second step would be to start buying when the price is below 30,000 USD.
Well .. it's a free market.

Nobody can ever make a huge impact unless if it was the like elon musk with its manipulating power + purchasing piwer .
But once the market cap getting high and higher then the bitcoin holder getting much larger... not even elon musk with billions dollar could interfere bitcoin price , it runs naturally.
natural steps can be taken, and thereby influence the development of the atmosphere around bitcoin
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Re: What is the future of bitcoin? Commodity, currency or smth else?
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lenaza2022
on 10/06/2022, 10:36:19 UTC
Quote from: mk4 on Today at 03:46:44 AM
Quote from: lenaza2022 on June 09, 2022, 09:42:27 PM
OK, question was about the role of bitcoin from the personal point of view. Somebody prefers to keep this asset, another is interesting in circulation, exchanging and spending.

Yes, because that's the point. No one gets to tell you what Bitcoin is "officially" for. If you think it's a currency, then go use it as a currency. If you think it's an investment, then go use it as an investment. Etc. Freedom at its best.
What does back bitcoin? It is more or less a game to consider that it is backed by demand. If new demand is "0" then the value of bitcoin may be "0" and it will be difficult to consider it as an investment or currency. If we imagine that all bitcoins are sold then new demand could appear only if bitcoin has been already treated as a currency, got its environment and law regulations (taxes, etc). Today fiat is used to buy bitcoin on the market, then bitcoin circularizes in buy/sell process, then it come out to be changed for fiat. Bitcoin seems to be a method. Method does no need to be baked. Method needs areas for implementation. Otherwise the method is useless. That is why the bitcoin´s implementation as a currency could keep it safe.
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Re: What is the future of bitcoin? Commodity, currency or smth else?
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lenaza2022
on 09/06/2022, 21:42:27 UTC
Quote from: franky1 on Today at 09:17:46 PM
Quote from: lenaza2022 on Today at 09:02:15 PM
Quote from: franky1 on Today at 08:48:51 PM
1...5.
Thank you for your point of view.
People have already choosed between investment and currency. The word "commodity" is commonly used for bitcoin meaning  in this forum. )))

even investments are a currency...

OK, question was about the role of bitcoin from the personal point of view. Somebody prefers to keep this asset, another is interesting in circulation, exchanging and spending.
If bitcoin is one of "unmovable" assets and nobody spend it, what could happen with it´s status?