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Board Hardware wallets
Re: Is there anyway to use Ledger Nano S without updating?
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loupiote
on 14/02/2025, 00:20:55 UTC
A friend has a Ledger Nano S with v1.3.1 firmware and has never used Ledger Live.

I was trying to help them recover their ETH but I can't seem to be able to get to the ETH wallet in Ledger Live. I assume this is because we have old Firmware.

He doesn't have the 24 word pass phrase so I don't want to update the firmware which will reset the device.

But I can't seem to be able to use any of the original Chrome apps to access the ETH wallet, every time I try it give a message about using Live.

Surely there must be a way to access the ETH wallet without updating firmware! Does anyone know how this might be possible?

This is an old thread, so hopefully you have been able to recover all your cryptos.

If not, there are known ways to recover all cryptos secured with Nano S firmware 1.3.1, but depending on the crypto type, it can require some efforts.
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Board Electrum
Re: have an old Ledger HW1 version 1.0.1 and getting "Read Error" when sending btc
by
loupiote
on 12/02/2025, 00:57:29 UTC
Thanks for the reply
Don't have the seed anymore unfortunately, just remember the pin
Ledger old web app is also not supported anymore - the server side does not exist...
I tried on a linux machine, but to my understanding, the last versions of Electrum supporting such old hardware were the 2.... and the 3... versions do not.
and the electrum versions (new) don't recognize the device, (older) give "read error" when trying to sign a transaction

Thank you

Do you still have the security card of your HW.1?

Note: I tried to send you a message, but i got:

User 'nimrodlehavi' has not chosen to allow messages from newbies. You should post in their relevant thread to remind them to enable this setting.
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Board Electrum
Re: have an old Ledger HW1 version 1.0.1 and getting "Read Error" when sending btc
by
loupiote
on 12/02/2025, 00:36:33 UTC
can't update the ledger, and the old electrum doesn't work anymore while the new one doesn't support this old version
What are my options?

Thanks

We have been able to recover BTC for old ledger HW-1 devices. You can read some of our reports here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/1hcwpz2/successful_btc_recovery_from_ledger_hw1_version/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/m4pk7q/successful_recovery_of_btc_from_a_hw1_ledger/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/1h5d2cv/ledger_hw1_with_lost_security_card_and_lost_seed/
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Re: have an old Ledger HW1 version 1.0.1 and getting "Read Error" when sending btc
by
loupiote
on 25/12/2024, 11:35:58 UTC
We can recover BTC from those old HW.1

Read our previous report:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/s/PnbPQLzPXb
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Board Hardware wallets
Re: Ledger security card
by
loupiote
on 04/12/2024, 10:00:16 UTC
Some news on this old subject:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/1h5d2cv/ledger_hw1_with_lost_security_card_and_lost_seed/

- Short version / TL;DR:

Client has BTC secured by an old Ledger HW.1 hardware wallet, but lost their Security Card and their seed phrase. They still have their unlocking PIN.

The Ledger HW.1 hardware wallet, released in 2014 in the early days of the Ledger Company, is a screenless USB dongle supporting only BTC. Its Security Card feature provides an additional challenge-response layer of protection, preventing unauthorized transactions when the dongle is connected and unlocked.

Without the Security Card or recovery seed phrase, BTC secured by the HW.1 was considered irrecoverable.

However, in 2022, Ledger revealed a firmware vulnerability allowing reassignment of a new Security Card through brute-forcing responses to challenges:

https://donjon.ledger.com/lsb/017/

Note: This vulnerability applies only to older screenless Ledger devices (HW.1, Nano). Modern devices (Nano S, X, S+ etc.) are unaffected.

Using this vulnerability, we successfully exploited the HW.1’s firmware to brute-force responses and reassign a new Security Card in our test HW.1 dongle.

This technique will allow recovery of our Client's BTC.
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Board Bitcoin Technical Support
Re: Abnormal BTC transfer in and out of address in the same block, how is possible?
by
loupiote
on 13/06/2023, 03:59:19 UTC
This is how Bitcoin works: anyone with the private key can move funds. The only thing that's left now is find out how the private key was leaked, and make sure it never happens again in the future. Considering the funds involved are quite significant, they should only have been send to a cold wallet. Hot wallets are inherently risky.

I know, I was just wondering how it was possible to send a Tx that was spending unconfirmed deposits (i.e. with 0 confirmation). I don't think you can do that with ETH, for example. But I guess BTC allows that. Interesting.
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Board Bitcoin Technical Support
Re: Abnormal BTC transfer in and out of address in the same block, how is possible?
by
loupiote
on 12/06/2023, 08:03:16 UTC
thanks!
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Board Bitcoin Technical Support
Re: Abnormal BTC transfer in and out of address in the same block, how is possible?
by
loupiote
on 12/06/2023, 07:43:32 UTC
> The thief saw the receiving transaction to the address A and made a transaction to address B while the transaction to address A was still unconfirmed.
The fee paid for these transactions was high enough and a miner include both of them in the same block.

So the Tx from Kraken (in the mempool) is considered unconfirmed, and because it is in the mempool, it's ok to spend the utxo of this tx in another Tx?

This can obviously be only done by some mempool-watching bots.

Is it common to see this pattern in the blockchain?
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Abnormal BTC transfer in and out of address in the same block, how is possible?
by
loupiote
on 12/06/2023, 07:13:14 UTC
A user contacted me about a weird / abnormal situation that caused them to lose 1.26869 BTC when transferring from Kraken to an wallet address under their control.

I can confirm that the situation (as seen on the blockchain) is very abnormal, and I cannot understand what caused it.

Basically, one BTC block contains 2 Txs:

- one is the transfer from Kraken to the user account address A (it's a native segqwit address in user wallet) which is the Tx that the user initialed by a withdrawal from Kraken,

- and in the same BTC block, there is a suspicious Tx from the user account address A to an unrecognized segwit address B that is not under control of the user, for a similar amount.

My understanding is that 1) this second (suspicious) Tx that moved the user funds could only have been signed by the user's private key - so likely a case of leaked key - and 2) this suspicious Tx sending the funds to address B could not have been normally initiated because no funds were on address A before the withdrawal from Kraken (which is mined in the same BTC block).

Can the BTC network (mempool) accept a Tx that moves funds from an address that has no balance / uxto?

This situation seems very abnormal to me, and the only way I think it could happen is with this BTC block 793728 being crafted by a malicious miner (or maybe a bot scanning the mempool?) who had access to the user's private key, in order to include the malicious signed Tx (A -> B) in that same block where the Kraken withdrawal was done.

Here are the info:

xpub: xpub6DAPV7c9WDLEg7GvJwZ2ptDmmQVfq7fB1hLKJJGg7P6kkLdBGnuBccSFbzBCcc6iZKZhnprKH6U Q5NNa4bkYRFVN91MuumjyE46oPSCgsCL

address A: https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/bc1q927v5jvzm9pxkdxr0l8q325r3mrz8e9jp56cga (you can see both Txs on this page)

address B: https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/bc1qn3rwwaaayt4ugusftlzac22rmve29mqcg6v5dt (where the BTC are now sitting)

BTC block: 793728

Have you guys seen anything like that before? And why is such a hack possible?
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Board Announcements (Altcoins)
Re: [KAYI] Kayicoin
by
loupiote
on 24/12/2017, 05:08:42 UTC
I have some Kayicoin (KAYI) on Cryptopia.

Will they automatically be converted into the new token?

if yes, when?, and when will they be tradable again on Cryptopia?

If no, what is the exact procedure we need to do to recover and trade our cryptopia KAYI (Kayicoin) token?

Thanks on behalf on all people holding Kayicoin on Cryptopia....