~95% of these unregulated securities have lost money for investors--through theft, exchange closures, theft and exchange closures, honest incompetence, honest incompetence and exchange closures... the reasons are irrelevant.  Therefore, I'd hazard a guess that ~95% of said investors could have used some help, no?

There's a small chance that said intrepid investors and finance aficionados intended to lose money, (perhaps to get back at Teh Man [see: Daddy Issues] or some humiliation/sub/SnM fetish, don't know, don't judge), but, unless these fora are breeding grounds of social deviance, I'd say we're still close to 90%.

But you're not one of those 95%.
No.
You're different.
Happy investin'

I dont give a hoot who you call but for cryptx sake, I hope he calls a competent lawyer. You might get away with this if you live in banana republic, but you're not gonna get away with it in the EU or US.  BTW, Ive been around the block. Ive been stating this ever since the first major bitcoin IPO happened (gigamining on glbse), and ive been ridiculed by people like you every step of the way. "bitcoin isnt money", "bitcoin isnt regulated", "bitcoin is anonymous", 'its all just virtual", blah blah. Of course I also turned out to be correct, and people who thought they could anonymously invest/gamble in unregistered securities because "bitcoin", they lost fortunes, their anonymity and more often than not, both.

GigaVPS turned it around after consulting with lawyers, but before catching regulatory heat. Cryptx may be able to do the same, just be aware of what the consequences of that will be to you.

Its not against any law to buy these things. It is however, illegal to sell them in this way. I dont care if you think running ponzi's and all kinds of financial scams should not be prohibited, the reality is that it is prohibited.

No tracking yet for (zefir chips) order 5xx.

Can you sign the message "I'm madxista selling 10 chips from zefir's batch 8. Thu Jul 25 2013" from address 1HWcHT9ejkAeHnuwpzGj1uMenZfnUkXB9r to prove you own them?

That reverse auction used John as escrow; have you made an arrangement with him?  I don't really want to bug him over such a small amount, but I guess the fee itself would be alright.  I think my forum reputation is good enough that I could ask for you to send proof that you locked it to my address first, but I know that favors me.  Maybe I send half, you send proof, I send the rest?

I am also wondering about the additional shipping fee zefir said he would charge.  If I can't pay it directly, what happens if it doesn't get paid, chips don't get shipped, and I already paid for them?  I can't find recent information about this, so he may be waiving that based on enough people shipping to a handful of assemblers.

Hi madxista,
I see the payment, but the address is not the one provided by you. I hope you didn't send the payment from some exchange or something.

Steve

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